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Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E. Comic Mischief
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Posted - 2012.06.07 21:03:00 -
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The latest eve newsletter has a link to the April survey results, also given here
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/EVE_playing_behaviour?utm_source=newsletter77&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter77
Why do people start playing eve? The winners were a complex Si Fi game with space exploration, with around 70%+ picking those.
And down at 25%? PvP.
It would appear that the survey takers were not drawn to eve by "the hard core PvP" but because its a Si Fi game.
If CCP wants to attract more players, what should they concentrate on...... http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |
Marlona Sky
Massive PVPness Psychotic Tendencies.
1078
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Posted - 2012.06.07 21:13:00 -
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Sci Fi?
Remove local, structure mails and revamp the directional scanner! |
Svarek
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.06.07 21:14:00 -
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The game is kinda skiffy, yeah... Grandpa Bill: "I remember my uncle Joe who used to go mining, back then it was easy to get black lung, but we called it coughing lung because we really didnt care what color it was, the coughing seemed like it should be in the title since he did so much of it." |
THE L0CK
Denying You Access
469
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Posted - 2012.06.07 21:14:00 -
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Orange juice. Do you smell what the Lock's cooking? |
AFK Hauler
State War Academy
353
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Posted - 2012.06.07 21:16:00 -
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I thought they changed there name to SyFy... Never understood why. |
Kijo Rikki
Killboard Padding Services
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Posted - 2012.06.07 21:17:00 -
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They have to reach out to the cool kids with Syence Fyction. |
Christopher Dulson
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.06.07 21:18:00 -
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Its interesting that most people tend to play mainly alone.
Im suppose that this is highsec mission runners. |
Ginseng Jita
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
778
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Posted - 2012.06.07 21:19:00 -
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If they added more to avatar game play they'd get more people playing. This walking in closest is not helping much. Add more WiS to the game and they'd be pushing 100k plus subs easily - if not more. |
Makkal Hanaya
Drakenburg
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Posted - 2012.06.07 21:21:00 -
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Marlona Sky wrote:Sci Fi? Science fiction. although my eyes were open they might have just as well've been closed
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
2031
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Posted - 2012.06.07 21:27:00 -
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Confirming that more people play with themselves in this game than don't. When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
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Acot Voth
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.06.07 21:31:00 -
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Interesting stuff. I'd like to see some stats on the player base abilities. I'd assume the average eve player is smarter than the average gamer/person, has 3x the determination, 2x the will power, and 10x the patience. |
ModeratedToSilence
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
101
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Posted - 2012.06.07 21:32:00 -
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Quote:Progress... ...what is it? Out here progress is numbers Millimetres, kilometres, Head counts, death tolls This is progress.
Colonies burned Ships destroyed People killed Money earned
It all comes at a price and if the price is right I'll set the universe on fire. |
Wilma Lawson
Hedion University Amarr Empire
75
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Posted - 2012.06.07 21:37:00 -
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Christopher Dulson wrote:Its interesting that most people tend to play mainly alone.
Im suppose that this is highsec mission runners. Yeah, I noticed that too. |
ModeratedToSilence
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
101
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Posted - 2012.06.07 21:38:00 -
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Ginseng Jita wrote:If they added more to avatar game play they'd get more people playing. This walking in closest is not helping much. Add more WiS to the game and they'd be pushing 100k plus subs easily - if not more.
Do you mean subs or simultaneous accounts online?
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Yonis Kador
Transstellar Alchemy
129
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Posted - 2012.06.07 21:46:00 -
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Since the results of this survey show only 25 percent of players are interested in pvp, CCP should immediately make loading pvp modules require 20 clicks and a secret password while all exploration (67%) frigates get free cookies and a performance increase.
After all, surveys do not lie.
Yonis Kador |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E. Comic Mischief
696
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Posted - 2012.06.07 21:49:00 -
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We are around 300K active accounts right now? http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |
Indahmawar Fazmarai
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Posted - 2012.06.07 21:51:00 -
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I gotta love this:
Reasons to subscribe to EVE:
(...) PvP: 25% Community: 17% Corporations: 15%
Player style: Mostly play solo: 16% Usually play solo: 39% As much solo as in a group: 25% Usually in a group:15 % Mostly in a group: 5%
Now, think of this: WHAT can you do in game if you're playing solo like 45% of the players do? And very specially... HOW LONG before being given the finger by the UNEXISTANT solo endgame? A clue: 54% of players have been in game for less than three years.
It's friggin' great. It turns that PvP is of marginal interest to new players, nullsec is a little bunch of freaks who barely appeal to 1 in 6 players, almost half the subcribers barely play with other players, half the players weren't here three years ago... and yet the whole EVE development revolves around fuking hisec, ignoring soloers and massaging nullseccer's hurt feelings.
Now please somebody come tell me that the survey was completed by hisec alts of l33t nullsec players. EVE is Serious Business: You shall not feel entitled to being allowed to play EVE just because you are paying it. |
Talon SilverHawk
Patria o Muerte
358
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Posted - 2012.06.07 21:53:00 -
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Wow lots of casual solo players
But to be fair it was a survey you had to read so allot of the PVP crowd probably missed that.
Tal
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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.06.07 22:04:00 -
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lol, nice, guess that puts things in a different light |
Indahmawar Fazmarai
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Posted - 2012.06.07 22:11:00 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote:lol, nice, guess that puts things in a different light
CCP also has seen the light, too:
Quote:Survey saysGǪ EVE is evidently rather solo-friendly!
Four years ago that would had blown my irony gland, but now... EVE is Serious Business: You shall not feel entitled to being allowed to play EVE just because you are paying it. |
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Ban Bindy
Bindy Brothers Pottery Association
317
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Posted - 2012.06.07 22:14:00 -
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Interesting but not surprising. The Eve-is-only-PVP crowd has started to believe what it reads on the forums, because those people dominate the forums totally. Three years must be the point at which a lot of people leave the game for one reason or another. |
Mallak Azaria
xX-Crusader-Xx
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Posted - 2012.06.07 22:16:00 -
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Ginseng Jita wrote:If they added more to avatar game play they'd get more people playing. This walking in closest is not helping much. Add more WiS to the game and they'd be pushing 100k plus subs easily - if not more.
They already have over 100k subs. |
Ginseng Jita
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
790
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Posted - 2012.06.07 22:21:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:Ginseng Jita wrote:If they added more to avatar game play they'd get more people playing. This walking in closest is not helping much. Add more WiS to the game and they'd be pushing 100k plus subs easily - if not more. They already have over 100k subs.
Well you know what I mean..they'd add more subs over all...in the neighborhood of a 100k+. Many players of this game ahve two or more subs. |
Twulf
The Konvergent League Sanctuary Pact
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Posted - 2012.06.07 22:23:00 -
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Acot Voth wrote:Interesting stuff. I'd like to see some stats on the player base abilities. I'd assume the average eve player is smarter than the average gamer/person, has 3x the determination, 2x the will power, and 10x the patience.
I think your way wrong. I do not believe smarter people play EvE over other games. Not even close. |
Makkal Hanaya
Drakenburg
45
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Posted - 2012.06.07 22:23:00 -
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It would be interesting to know the number of active players as opposed to the number of accounts or characters. although my eyes were open they might have just as well've been closed
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MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
368
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Posted - 2012.06.07 22:26:00 -
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this is the problem with ccp direction after incarna instead of making the game better for the majority who play it they are focused on nerfing the things we like and making the game better for the minority null sec players... sad really...
this is why the CSM are bad... PLEX FOR PIZZA!
TECH iii MINNING SHIPS! |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E. Comic Mischief
696
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Posted - 2012.06.07 22:28:00 -
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MeBiatch wrote:this is the problem with ccp direction after incarna instead of making the game better for the majority who play it they are focused on nerfing the things we like and making the game better for the minority null sec players... sad really...
this is why the CSM are bad...
Oddly, the few dev comments on what team avatar is working on is cooperative gameplay in hostile environments. http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |
Ban Bindy
Bindy Brothers Pottery Association
317
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Posted - 2012.06.07 22:34:00 -
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MeBiatch wrote:this is the problem with ccp direction after incarna instead of making the game better for the majority who play it they are focused on nerfing the things we like and making the game better for the minority null sec players... sad really...
this is why the CSM are bad...
The PVP noise on the forums in the wake of Incarna scared the devs. People used the NeX store to club them over the head and confused the pay2win issue with the PVP issue. That faction in the game has been crowing about their victory ever since. Meanwhile online usage is stagnant even though CCP claims 400k subscribers and continuous growth. My theory has been that CCP does not want to rock the Eve boat too hard until the revenue stream from Dust gets established. |
Yonis Kador
Transstellar Alchemy
129
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Posted - 2012.06.07 22:41:00 -
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Cool deal. I knew that ring mining involved mining planetary rings in low/null, but I didn't realize that it was forced cooperative gameplay. I've been trying to come up with a similar forced cooperative concept on the front end of the game experience but I keep getting sidetracked by my issues with the new UI.
I don't think the survey should be interpreted as proof that a forced cooperative concept wouldn't be beneficial to player retention, but it does suggest that a minority currently play EVE in this way. And it really does make one wonder why the focus would then be on a cooperative endgame when the risk of life in low/null already lends itself to a cooperative experience.
If anyone has links to statements about the forced cooperative concept, I'd be interested in reading those.
Yonis Kador |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E. Comic Mischief
696
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Posted - 2012.06.07 22:43:00 -
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From an earlier survey: What people enjoy doing. This one was screen shot from a fanfest video so its hard to read. But the categories are, top to bottom:
Very much like Somewhat like Neither/nor Somewhat dislike Very much dislike
http://eve-files.com/dl/255173
Interestingly, here PvP is the one activity with the highest like rating. But even mining has more than 50% of the respondents liking it to some extent. Mining also has the highest dislike rating. FW had the lowest like rating, but the survey was pre-inferno.
Also these results indicate that many like to do both mining and PvP. http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |
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