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Greyscale Dash
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
35
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Posted - 2012.06.08 00:21:00 -
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Apparently the survey results indicate that most people do two very naughty things.
1. play solo 2. are pve only.
In fact, only about 1/4 of all players are interested in the pvp aspects of the game.
This is unacceptable. We obviously aren't trying hard enough to force them into lo sec.
Time to step up the ganking. They resist, but once they lose some hulks and are forced down they'll enjoy the game. |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3272
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Posted - 2012.06.08 00:24:00 -
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Greyscale Dash wrote: Time to step up the ganking.
This is a good idea, we'll take it under advisement. |
sabre906
Old Spice Syndicate Sailors of the Sacred Spice
150
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Posted - 2012.06.08 00:25:00 -
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Or CCP can take 75% of their income and donate it to fund therapy for recovering kb-humpers. Same effect. Standings Improvement Service https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=19454 |
Makkal Hanaya
Drakenburg
47
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Posted - 2012.06.08 00:25:00 -
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I mostly solo play PvE in the game, but I also post on the General Discussion. That's where the hardcore PvP is at. although my eyes were open they might have just as well've been closed
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Solhild
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
715
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Posted - 2012.06.08 00:27:00 -
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Interesting. |
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
189
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Posted - 2012.06.08 00:27:00 -
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Thought the PvP thing was "Why they subbed" and not "What they mostly do" |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
7763
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Posted - 2012.06.08 00:28:00 -
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Tyberius Franklin wrote:Thought the PvP thing was "Why they subbed" and not "What they mostly do" You're expecting an EVE player to be able to read charts correctly? Really now. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
CONCORD spawns: quick enough to save you?
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ModeratedToSilence
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
101
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Posted - 2012.06.08 00:29:00 -
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Tyberius Franklin wrote:Thought the PvP thing was "Why they subbed" and not "What they mostly do"
Statistics - all in the interpretation.
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Ginseng Jita
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
808
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Posted - 2012.06.08 00:30:00 -
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sabre906 wrote:Or CCP can take 75% of their income and donate it to fund therapy for recovering kb-humpers. Same effect.
No, it just means CCP is so caught up in pleasing a small percentage of their player base, when clearly there is a larger portion that wants more PvE aspects added. I bet if CCP were to really do something about adding WiS and more PvE elements, this games subs would go through the roof. |
masternerdguy
Inner Shadow NightSong Directorate
675
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Posted - 2012.06.08 00:32:00 -
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Ginseng Jita wrote:sabre906 wrote:Or CCP can take 75% of their income and donate it to fund therapy for recovering kb-humpers. Same effect. No, it just means CCP is so caught up in pleasing a small percentage of their player base, when clearly there is a larger portion that wants more PvE aspects added. I bet if CCP were to really do something about adding WiS and more PvE elements, this games subs would go through the roof.
Yep, but it wouldn't be EVE anymore. And I wouldn't be playing it. Things are only impossible until they are not. |
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Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
123
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Posted - 2012.06.08 00:33:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:Ginseng Jita wrote:sabre906 wrote:Or CCP can take 75% of their income and donate it to fund therapy for recovering kb-humpers. Same effect. No, it just means CCP is so caught up in pleasing a small percentage of their player base, when clearly there is a larger portion that wants more PvE aspects added. I bet if CCP were to really do something about adding WiS and more PvE elements, this games subs would go through the roof. Yep, but it wouldn't be EVE anymore. And I wouldn't be playing it.
Wouldn't be a big loss. brb |
Disregard That
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
50
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Posted - 2012.06.08 00:34:00 -
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Ginseng Jita wrote:sabre906 wrote:Or CCP can take 75% of their income and donate it to fund therapy for recovering kb-humpers. Same effect. No, it just means CCP is so caught up in pleasing a small percentage of their player base, when clearly there is a larger portion that wants more PvE aspects added. I bet if CCP were to really do something about adding WiS and more PvE elements, this games subs would go through the roof. Name activities that players can participate in that aren't PVP in Eve online.
Let's see.
1) Ship spinning 2) WiC (Walking in Closets)
Yep.
That's some compelling non-pvp content, let me tell you! |
Ginseng Jita
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
808
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Posted - 2012.06.08 00:34:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:Ginseng Jita wrote:sabre906 wrote:Or CCP can take 75% of their income and donate it to fund therapy for recovering kb-humpers. Same effect. No, it just means CCP is so caught up in pleasing a small percentage of their player base, when clearly there is a larger portion that wants more PvE aspects added. I bet if CCP were to really do something about adding WiS and more PvE elements, this games subs would go through the roof. Yep, but it wouldn't be EVE anymore. And I wouldn't be playing it.
Well see, CCP did not make this game to placate only a small portion of the gaming community. I bet CCP wants to make tons of money. You few dollars would mean squat if they gained 10k players. |
masternerdguy
Inner Shadow NightSong Directorate
676
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Posted - 2012.06.08 00:36:00 -
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Ginseng Jita wrote:masternerdguy wrote:Ginseng Jita wrote:sabre906 wrote:Or CCP can take 75% of their income and donate it to fund therapy for recovering kb-humpers. Same effect. No, it just means CCP is so caught up in pleasing a small percentage of their player base, when clearly there is a larger portion that wants more PvE aspects added. I bet if CCP were to really do something about adding WiS and more PvE elements, this games subs would go through the roof. Yep, but it wouldn't be EVE anymore. And I wouldn't be playing it. Well see, CCP did not make this game to placate only a small portion of the gaming community. I bet CCP wants to make tons of money. Your few dollars would mean squat if they gained 10k players.
Except that the only thing keeping this game from falling on its face is the player generated content aka nullsec. EVE is built around nullsec. Everything, until recently, existed to support nullsec and gently nudge players towards it. Things are only impossible until they are not. |
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
190
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Posted - 2012.06.08 00:37:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:Ginseng Jita wrote:masternerdguy wrote:Ginseng Jita wrote:sabre906 wrote:Or CCP can take 75% of their income and donate it to fund therapy for recovering kb-humpers. Same effect. No, it just means CCP is so caught up in pleasing a small percentage of their player base, when clearly there is a larger portion that wants more PvE aspects added. I bet if CCP were to really do something about adding WiS and more PvE elements, this games subs would go through the roof. Yep, but it wouldn't be EVE anymore. And I wouldn't be playing it. Well see, CCP did not make this game to placate only a small portion of the gaming community. I bet CCP wants to make tons of money. Your few dollars would mean squat if they gained 10k players. Except that the only thing keeping this game from falling on its face is the player generated content aka nullsec. EVE is built around nullsec. Everything, until recently, existed to support nullsec and gently nudge players towards it. Then all is a lie and this game is as linear as any other. Time to abandon all illusions of choice, limited as they were and abandon ship then? |
masternerdguy
Inner Shadow NightSong Directorate
676
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Posted - 2012.06.08 00:39:00 -
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Tyberius Franklin wrote: Then all is a lie and this game is as linear as any other. Time to abandon all illusions of choice, limited as they were and abandon ship then?
Nullsec is the purest part of the EVE sandbox. Things are only impossible until they are not. |
Disregard That
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
51
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Posted - 2012.06.08 00:39:00 -
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Original dev reasoning for the nudge was admittedly load-balancing.
Other than that they really didn't have any reasons for these "nudges."
Sandbox, etc.
But they also left suicide ganking in on-purpose so that nowhere would be "truly safe." |
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
1405
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Posted - 2012.06.08 00:40:00 -
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It's hard to PvP and surf pron at the same time |
Ginseng Jita
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
810
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Posted - 2012.06.08 00:41:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:Ginseng Jita wrote:masternerdguy wrote:Ginseng Jita wrote:sabre906 wrote:Or CCP can take 75% of their income and donate it to fund therapy for recovering kb-humpers. Same effect. No, it just means CCP is so caught up in pleasing a small percentage of their player base, when clearly there is a larger portion that wants more PvE aspects added. I bet if CCP were to really do something about adding WiS and more PvE elements, this games subs would go through the roof. Yep, but it wouldn't be EVE anymore. And I wouldn't be playing it. Well see, CCP did not make this game to placate only a small portion of the gaming community. I bet CCP wants to make tons of money. Your few dollars would mean squat if they gained 10k players. Except that the only thing keeping this game from falling on its face is the player generated content aka nullsec. EVE is built around nullsec. Everything, until recently, existed to support nullsec and gently nudge players towards it.
If all the people in null-sec left, others would move in and take their place. The game is not all about null-sec. Never has been. It is because of this fact that a few. like yourself that whine and moan about the rest of the game, that the rest of the game is constantly being shelved to address a small percentage of players. There are more people playing than just you - remember that....many, many, many, more. |
Malphilos
State War Academy Caldari State
79
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Posted - 2012.06.08 00:41:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:Ginseng Jita wrote:sabre906 wrote:Or CCP can take 75% of their income and donate it to fund therapy for recovering kb-humpers. Same effect. No, it just means CCP is so caught up in pleasing a small percentage of their player base, when clearly there is a larger portion that wants more PvE aspects added. I bet if CCP were to really do something about adding WiS and more PvE elements, this games subs would go through the roof. Yep, but it wouldn't be EVE anymore. And I wouldn't be playing it.
Holy crap, now there's an endorsement.
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sabre906
Old Spice Syndicate Sailors of the Sacred Spice
152
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Posted - 2012.06.08 00:42:00 -
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Ginseng Jita wrote:sabre906 wrote:Or CCP can take 75% of their income and donate it to fund therapy for recovering kb-humpers. Same effect. No, it just means CCP is so caught up in pleasing a small percentage of their player base, when clearly there is a larger portion that wants more PvE aspects added. I bet if CCP were to really do something about adding WiS and more PvE elements, this games subs would go through the roof.
But CCP will have to actually work for pve content. So instead of that, they take Mittani and call it pvp content. Standings Improvement Service https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=19454 |
Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
126
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Posted - 2012.06.08 00:42:00 -
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Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:It's hard to PvP and surf pron at the same time
No it isn't, just log forum and go GD section. Learn to be pro
brb |
EVE Roy Mustang
State War Academy Caldari State
23
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Posted - 2012.06.08 00:42:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:Ginseng Jita wrote:sabre906 wrote:Or CCP can take 75% of their income and donate it to fund therapy for recovering kb-humpers. Same effect. No, it just means CCP is so caught up in pleasing a small percentage of their player base, when clearly there is a larger portion that wants more PvE aspects added. I bet if CCP were to really do something about adding WiS and more PvE elements, this games subs would go through the roof. Yep, but it wouldn't be EVE anymore. And I wouldn't be playing it.
You wouldnt be missed by the teeming masses of casuals that would then play it...
Reminds me of the Family Guy where Peter cancels the reservation to Cheezy Charlie's and the dude is jumped with 40 ppl trying to get that reservation
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Malphilos
State War Academy Caldari State
79
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Posted - 2012.06.08 00:43:00 -
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Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:It's hard to PvP and surf pron at the same time
Somebody only read the thread title.
Huzzah for you, sir! |
masternerdguy
Inner Shadow NightSong Directorate
678
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Posted - 2012.06.08 00:44:00 -
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Ginseng Jita wrote: If all the people in null-sec left, others would move in and take their place. The game is not all about null-sec. Never has been. It is because of this fact that a few. like yourself that whine and moan about the rest of the game, that the rest of the game is constantly being shelved to address a small percentage of players. There are more people playing than just you - remember that....many, many, many, more.
We've seen your hi sec community in action with the recent incursion nerf.
"We're a vital and relevant roleplaying community CCP and the bonds we've forged will endure through time"
--1 nerf later--
"ISK/hr for incursion not good enough I'm gonna solo level 4s again"
Yep. You guys totally have the drive, determination, and skill it takes to build a nullsec empire. You only complain about it because nullsec is too hard for you because it would require you to form real connections with other people and actually fight for something. Things are only impossible until they are not. |
EVE Roy Mustang
State War Academy Caldari State
23
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Posted - 2012.06.08 00:45:00 -
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Ginseng Jita wrote: If all the people in null-sec left, others would move in and take their place. The game is not all about null-sec. Never has been. It is because of this fact that a few. like yourself that whine and moan about the rest of the game, that the rest of the game is constantly being shelved to address a small percentage of players. There are more people playing than just you - remember that....many, many, many, more.
75% of characters if I remember right |
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
1405
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Posted - 2012.06.08 00:45:00 -
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Malphilos wrote:Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:It's hard to PvP and surf pron at the same time Somebody only read the thread title. Huzzah for you, sir!
It's what I do... I'm very easily trolled |
Christopher Dulson
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
3
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Posted - 2012.06.08 00:46:00 -
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i dont know why people think that pve automatically means mining.
Why most people play solo or mostly solo;
1. have you ever tried to do something with a lot of people in this game. It takes forever just to form up let alone run a sweep of lowsec or spent hours station camping/gate camping. If its a weekday and you have a job to go to then solo is sometimes the only option.
2. Running missions/nullbearing is always a good way to raise isk
3. If you only have an hour or two to kill then group work is not an option.
4. lots more that i cant remember |
Greyscale Dash
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
35
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Posted - 2012.06.08 00:47:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:Ginseng Jita wrote: If all the people in null-sec left, others would move in and take their place. The game is not all about null-sec. Never has been. It is because of this fact that a few. like yourself that whine and moan about the rest of the game, that the rest of the game is constantly being shelved to address a small percentage of players. There are more people playing than just you - remember that....many, many, many, more.
We've seen your hi sec community in action with the recent incursion nerf. "We're a vital and relevant roleplaying community CCP and the bonds we've forged will endure through time" --1 nerf later-- "ISK/hr for incursion not good enough I'm gonna solo level 4s again" Yep. You guys totally have the drive, determination, and skill it takes to build a nullsec empire. You only complain about it because nullsec is too hard for you because it would require you to form real connections with other people and actually fight for something.
Not empty quoting. |
Ginseng Jita
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
811
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Posted - 2012.06.08 00:47:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:Ginseng Jita wrote: If all the people in null-sec left, others would move in and take their place. The game is not all about null-sec. Never has been. It is because of this fact that a few. like yourself that whine and moan about the rest of the game, that the rest of the game is constantly being shelved to address a small percentage of players. There are more people playing than just you - remember that....many, many, many, more.
We've seen your hi sec community in action with the recent incursion nerf. "We're a vital and relevant roleplaying community CCP and the bonds we've forged will endure through time" --1 nerf later-- "ISK/hr for incursion not good enough I'm gonna solo level 4s again" Yep. You guys totally have the drive, determination, and skill it takes to build a nullsec empire. You only complain about it because nullsec is too hard for you because it would require you to form real connections with other people and actually fight for something.
OMG - null-sec is for a few people that live eat and breath EVE. That is the truth of the matter. There are far more pople that play this game on a more casual basis. They are not interested in holding territories. They just want to play a sci-fi game. EVE is one of the only really decent sci-fi games out right now. If another triple AAA - good sci-fi game - was on the market - that had the same sandbox qualites - EVE would die. |
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