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Taram Caldar
Royal Black Watch Highlanders Warped Aggression
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Posted - 2010.12.02 00:01:00 -
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I sold all my TMP stock around a year ago. It's possible Ji has just been tied up though. He's always been very reliable about his payouts so I wouldn't be too concerned just yet.
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Roguehalo
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2010.12.02 14:10:00 -
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I sent my shares back (in error) on friday or saturday a couple of weeks ago and Ji evemailed me saying he would pay me the following Monday. Not heard a thing since :(
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Clown Pron
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Posted - 2010.12.03 01:15:00 -
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SCAM!!!!
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Bath Sheeba
Gallente Another Success Story
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Posted - 2010.12.09 08:52:00 -
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Still nothing from Ji Sama for me......
At least I am only in for 100 shares.
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Cista2
Hydra Investment Fund
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Posted - 2010.12.09 12:49:00 -
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Originally by: Ji Sama I am the kind of person, that if I cannot invest myself 100% into what I do, I don't do.
----------------------- "Signatures" chatroom / LLSE Stock Market |
Diomedes Calypso
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Posted - 2010.12.10 01:42:00 -
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So, was the time and effort of going public and meeting the reporting "requirments" worth the access to the extra capital and the terms to get the capital?
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Bath Sheeba
Gallente Another Success Story
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Posted - 2010.12.20 20:01:00 -
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So, I understand life can get in the way, but it has been a month now since the initial statement of closure and then NOTHING.
I hope all is well with you, Ji Sama.
Any response would be appreciated.
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Companion Qube
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Posted - 2010.12.21 07:26:00 -
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I still thrust you Ji.
snark: poasting in a ji scama thread1111111111
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Garkonite
Internet Spaceship Gamers Sex Drugs And Rock'N'Roll
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Posted - 2011.01.06 06:40:00 -
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well this sucks... i just saw that you closed shop :( this sucks i still has shares i need to sell back JI please contact me via reply the mails ive sent you. thanks
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Kalrand
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.01.16 14:19:00 -
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So does anyone know the story of who scammed Ji and how?
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RAW23
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Posted - 2011.01.16 15:02:00 -
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Originally by: Kalrand So does anyone know the story of who scammed Ji and how?
T4U for 30bil. The other one, I'm not sure if it was explicitly a scam or whether it might have been a default and disagreement over terms, I just know that Ji felt she had been ripped off by a friend. However, she asked me not to divulge the name (which leads me to think it may not have been a straightforward theft) and since I don't know what actually went on I'm going to respect that request.
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Caldariftw123
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Posted - 2011.01.16 15:07:00 -
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It would be ironic if Ji Sama runs off without ever returning the isk, one of the people you LEAST expected would steal, and EBANK comes along and pays off all the debt .. I think I'd wear odd socks that day and join in on the upside down universe we will have found yourselves in \:D/
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Brock Nelson
Caldari T2 Technologies Unlimited SRS.
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Posted - 2011.01.16 18:24:00 -
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Meh, I knew he was gonna scam...that's why I didn't invest
Originally by: Lutz Major
Originally by: Lazy Poster Where can I go to learn about this?
You could visit the stickies!?
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Hurtful Words
Minmatar Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2011.01.20 13:43:00 -
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didn't see this scam coming.
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DogFACE1
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Posted - 2011.01.25 17:27:00 -
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why is this scam being swept under the rug?
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Kryhane
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Posted - 2011.01.25 21:26:00 -
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Originally by: DogFACE1 why is this scam being swept under the rug?
MD elite can do no wrong, amirite?
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Cista2
Hydra Investment Fund
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Posted - 2011.01.26 07:08:00 -
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Edited by: Cista2 on 26/01/2011 07:10:38
Originally by: Kryhane
Originally by: DogFACE1 why is this scam being swept under the rug?
MD elite can do no wrong, amirite?
Because Ji was perceived as a "no barriers" person on the forums, nobody ascribes this failure to ill intentions. That happens with some IPOs, e.g. also the smaller Ship-Rep failure.
Besides, I believe a few of us (myself not inccluded) have met her in RL.
I was more surprised that when the bloated and gloating Bad Bobby stole all the investor's isk everyone was going "Oh, jolly good show old chap!" (to save some face maybe). ----------------------- "Signatures" chatroom / LLSE Stock Market |
Taram Caldar
Royal Black Watch Highlanders Warped Aggression
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Posted - 2011.01.27 13:13:00 -
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Not being swept under the rug. Just the investors haven't raised a fuss over it for some reason. I got out of TMPI over a year ago now so honestly don't even keep tabs on this thread. I think it's ironic that Ji is scamming after all her high-horsed statements about being anti-scammer, etc. in the past.
Am I surprised? Yeah.... do I care? Honestly... yes.... but since I'm not an investor other than noting that she scammed and making note never to do business with her again? Not a lot I can do about it. The thread is here. Folks have noted she scammed. What more is there to do?
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Varo Jan
Caravanserai Consulting
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Posted - 2011.01.27 18:47:00 -
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I'm one of the original investors. I'm not raising a fuss for two reasons. First, drama queens don't impress me. Second, I have no doubt there's a good reason Ji hasn't been around.
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YouGotRipped
Ewigkeit
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Posted - 2011.01.29 14:27:00 -
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Originally by: Varo Jan I'm one of the original investors. I'm not raising a fuss for two reasons. First, drama queens don't impress me. Second, I have no doubt there's a good reason Ji hasn't been around.
I would have scammed too in his place.
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Varo Jan
Caravanserai Consulting
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Posted - 2011.01.29 16:06:00 -
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Originally by: YouGotRipped I would have scammed too in his place.
You are a scammer, end of story. Ji is not.
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YouGotRipped
Ewigkeit
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Posted - 2011.01.29 17:22:00 -
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Originally by: Varo Jan
Originally by: YouGotRipped I would have scammed too in his place.
You are a scammer, end of story. Ji is not.
Originally by: Varo Jan
Originally by: YouGotRipped I would have scammed too in his place.
You are a scammer, end of story. Ji is not.
I've never scammed anyone, merely delayed the payment of the monthly interest and principal. Even more, I'm still around, Ji isn't. So how much did you lose?
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Brock Nelson
Caldari T2 Technologies Unlimited SRS.
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Posted - 2011.01.29 20:16:00 -
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Edited by: Brock Nelson on 29/01/2011 20:17:12
Originally by: Varo Jan
Originally by: YouGotRipped I would have scammed too in his place.
You are a scammer, end of story. Ji is not.
Prove that Ji's not a scammer.
I'll prove that he is a scammer. It's been 2.5 months since he last posted stating that he will buyback his share. It's been 2.5 months since he had last posted anything in the forum regarding this subject. Simple as that. Not one investor has confirmed that he has received his buyback isk.
iirc, he attempted to burn me by labeling me as a scammer through his "logical" deduction that by not posting for more than a month in regards to being hacked during my IPO a year ago; I am therefore a scammer. Using this same deduction, he is therefore a scammer.
Originally by: Rheeii
Whats he going to be probing with CORE probes?
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Breaker77
Gallente Reclamation Industries
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Posted - 2011.01.29 21:04:00 -
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Originally by: Brock Nelson
iirc, he attempted to burn me by labeling me as a scammer through his "logical" deduction that by not posting for more than a month in regards to being hacked during my IPO a year ago; I am therefore a scammer.
Anyone who runs missions in Motsu to repay a bond is a scammer
Even though you made 10 bil in a month or two and repaid everyone fully doesn't matter. All that matters is you turned into a mission *****.
Yes, I'm being a **** about this. I was just happy to receive my ISK back.
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Brock Nelson
Caldari T2 Technologies Unlimited SRS.
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Posted - 2011.01.29 21:06:00 -
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Originally by: Breaker77 Even though you made 10 bil in a month or two and repaid everyone fully doesn't matter. All that matters is you turned into a mission *****.
Not exactly true but that's not the point
Originally by: Rheeii
Whats he going to be probing with CORE probes?
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Taram Caldar
Royal Black Watch Highlanders Warped Aggression
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Posted - 2011.01.31 01:26:00 -
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Edited by: Taram Caldar on 31/01/2011 01:28:04
Originally by: Breaker77
Originally by: Brock Nelson
iirc, he attempted to burn me by labeling me as a scammer through his "logical" deduction that by not posting for more than a month in regards to being hacked during my IPO a year ago; I am therefore a scammer.
Anyone who runs missions in Motsu to repay a bond is a scammer
Even though you made 10 bil in a month or two and repaid everyone fully doesn't matter. All that matters is you turned into a mission *****.
Yes, I'm being a **** about this. I was just happy to receive my ISK back.
Bottom line: Brock paid back his debt in less time than it's taken Ji to bother responding to his forum thread. HOW he paid back the debt is irrelevant. Ji tried to call Brock a scammer yet Ji is the one who hasn't paid up.
I like Ji, don't get me wrong. But at this point Ji is, de facto, scamming. What makes it worse is that Ji has for so long gone off on people and called them scammers or tried to go on a high horse about scamming and yet now is doing it herself.
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Cista2
Hydra Investment Fund
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Posted - 2011.01.31 06:58:00 -
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Originally by: Taram Caldar scam
Not that I feel the need to keep defending Ji, but IMO a scam implies a) that the person steals the isk to do RMT, or b) the person steals the isk and sends it to other chars that we don't know about, or c) the person remains on MD and gloats like a dying supernova for a couple of million years (T4U)
Since c is not the case, it is a question of you claiming a or b. My personal guess is that the isk is still sitting in Ji Samas account, so I suggest that this is a failure, not a scam. ----------------------- "Signatures" trade chatroom / Universal Railways |
Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2011.01.31 09:17:00 -
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Objective fact:
* as of today, the full amount invested seems lost.
Behavioral, subjective impression:
* Ji Sama is a person of strong feelings. This should have prompted caution among some of the investors.
Possible disappearance explanation:
* "Ragequit" after losing money beyond a stress-beyond-return triggering thresold.
As I posted elsewhere, there ARE permanent damage caused by big implosions like T4U, the heavy loss sustained having invested in that scam could have pushed Ji Sama to a critical limit that the subsequent other incident finally triggered.
Conclusion:
- Unless Ji Sama returns back (something made more and more unlikely the more people harp about her scamming imho) the investment has to be declared in default. This is the only relevant information to the investors, the rest is fluff or trolling.
- This does not just look like a "simple" scam, it's a person throwing the sponge. This is somewhat even worse, because there are no "winners" in this default. - Auditing & consulting
When looking for investors, please read http://tinyurl.com/n5ys4h + http://tinyurl.com/lrg4oz
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laksmi2
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Posted - 2011.01.31 09:58:00 -
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Edited by: laksmi2 on 31/01/2011 10:01:54 excuse me being a noob and stuff but did tash murkon prime invest borrowed money into another public enterprise? what was the sense in that? would only make sense if the percentage on borrowed money would be much lower than the money received on lent money. does that mean tash murkon acted as a broker for investment and got burned in the process? the possible benefit could not have been mora than 1 or 2 %. id also rather go with the ragequit opinion but of course i have no clue. tash murkon prime probably worked their arse off for years for the lost money. let it be a warning to everybody. secondary market without ingame tools is just idiotic without collateral. and why would one need a loan when having collateral? but thats another topic.
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Lederstrumpf
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Posted - 2011.01.31 10:31:00 -
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"Anyone buying [..] deserve to lose their money, just like some idiot who decides to undock with a PLEX. Its just Darwinism."
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1365064
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