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Sir13
renditions of madness B A C K B 0 N E
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Posted - 2012.06.10 02:45:00 -
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http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=8975336
Boom! |
FeralShadow
Black Storm Cartel
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Posted - 2012.06.10 02:47:00 -
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74bil for level 4 missions? Seems reasonable. Shift click to open new window. How the Eve Sandbox Works:https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=482176#post482176 "I believe in karma. That's why whenever I do something sh**ty to others, they somehow deserved it." |
Makkal Hanaya
Drakenburg
85
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Posted - 2012.06.10 02:50:00 -
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I can die happy with this knowledge.
although my eyes were open they might have just as well've been closed
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Slow P Oke
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.06.10 02:56:00 -
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NO WAY |
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
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Posted - 2012.06.10 02:57:00 -
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FeralShadow wrote:74bil for level 4 missions? Seems reasonable. I've heard they put out a lot of deeps.
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"-á-á-MXZF |
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.06.10 03:05:00 -
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What in the actual ****????? |
Rengerel en Distel
Amarr Science and Industry
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Posted - 2012.06.10 03:08:00 -
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Last year says hello?
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No More Heroes
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.06.10 03:08:00 -
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02-22-2011 who necro'd this ****? . |
Implying Implications
Broski Enterprises
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Posted - 2012.06.10 03:08:00 -
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SHITFIT stop deleting my posts |
Burseg Sardaukar
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2012.06.10 03:11:00 -
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I came. We have a blog, it is terrible. How to fix Bounty Hunting |
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BuckStrider
Nano-Tech Experiments
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Posted - 2012.06.10 03:18:00 -
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No More Heroes wrote:02-22-2011 who necro'd this ****?
He did you dumb Goon pubbie.
Oh wait, he's not part of your blue list? |
Torneach
Viziam Amarr Empire
219
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Posted - 2012.06.10 03:58:00 -
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This is an example of having too much money and not having anything to spend it on. |
Sir13
renditions of madness B A C K B 0 N E
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Posted - 2012.06.10 04:06:00 -
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Yeah I know it's very old but I just came across it on the killboards, this is a prime example of someone who buys isk from gold sellers.... if you have this much isk, chances are you don't need to make isk from level 4 missions -_- |
Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1611
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Posted - 2012.06.10 04:15:00 -
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This just in: some people are really, really dumb and have no concept of efficiency. TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |
Invisusira
The Rising Stars The Volition Cult
69
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Posted - 2012.06.10 04:19:00 -
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Rengerel en Distel wrote:Last year says hello?
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Copine Callmeknau
Kangaroos With Frickin Lazerbeams Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
190
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Posted - 2012.06.10 04:21:00 -
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Christ Not even a good fit 5 heat sinks :/ There should be a rather awesome pic here |
Ludi Burek
The Player Haters Corp
118
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Posted - 2012.06.10 07:48:00 -
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Wait, suicide ganking happened before 2012? Bind blown... |
RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
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Posted - 2012.06.10 07:51:00 -
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Copine Callmeknau wrote:Christ Not even a good fit 5 heat sinks :/
I think the number of heat sinks is defensible, since he clearly didn't need more tank. The amount of ISK he spent on that shitfit is, of course, indefensible.
... and the mids are pretty bad regardless of cost. This is EVE. -á Everybody Versus Everybody. |
Jovan Geldon
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
444
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Posted - 2012.06.10 08:02:00 -
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Don't do this
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JaBbAMAn
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.06.10 08:15:00 -
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this just shows that this game will never become up to par with other mmo's...... pretty sad thats its pretty much pointless to spend isk and alot of time to make your ship perform to its full potential cuz some jelous assholes will just blow you up.... empire should be non pvp zone unless your at war.... i would bet 1 billion isk subscription numbers would increase by alot. |
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Pak Narhoo
Knights of Kador
553
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Posted - 2012.06.10 08:19:00 -
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JaBbAMAn wrote:this just shows that this game will never become up to par with other mmo's...... pretty sad thats its pretty much pointless to spend isk and alot of time to make your ship perform to its full potential cuz some jelous assholes will just blow you up.... empire should be non pvp zone unless your at war.... i would bet 1 billion isk subscription numbers would increase by alot.
Wut?
Hi, I'm CCP Arrow, I screwed up the.. ummm... |
JaBbAMAn
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.06.10 08:22:00 -
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Pak Narhoo wrote:JaBbAMAn wrote:this just shows that this game will never become up to par with other mmo's...... pretty sad thats its pretty much pointless to spend isk and alot of time to make your ship perform to its full potential cuz some jelous assholes will just blow you up.... empire should be non pvp zone unless your at war.... i would bet 1 billion isk subscription numbers would increase by alot. Wut?
What dont you understand? pvpers have plenty of space to pvp in.... lowsec and 0.0.... oh and wormholes.... why cant pve'ers have a safe zone to pve? |
RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
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Posted - 2012.06.10 08:24:00 -
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JaBbAMAn wrote:this just shows that this game will never become up to par with other mmo's...... pretty sad thats its pretty much pointless to spend isk and alot of time to make your ship perform to its full potential cuz some jelous assholes will just blow you up.... empire should be non pvp zone unless your at war.... i would bet 1 billion isk subscription numbers would increase by alot.
EvE would die a pretty quick death.
And people have gone out missioning in their State Ravens. If you're smart about what you're doing, you can pimp your shit out beyond all reason and do so safely. This is EVE. -á Everybody Versus Everybody. |
RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
1845
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Posted - 2012.06.10 08:25:00 -
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JaBbAMAn wrote:Pak Narhoo wrote:JaBbAMAn wrote:this just shows that this game will never become up to par with other mmo's...... pretty sad thats its pretty much pointless to spend isk and alot of time to make your ship perform to its full potential cuz some jelous assholes will just blow you up.... empire should be non pvp zone unless your at war.... i would bet 1 billion isk subscription numbers would increase by alot. Wut? What dont you understand? pvpers have plenty of space to pvp in.... lowsec and 0.0.... oh and wormholes.... why cant pve'ers have a safe zone to pve?
Because EvE is Everyone Vs Everyone.
And because EvE is not just meant to look like a cold, harsh univerese, it's meant to be one. That means you're never safe. This is EVE. -á Everybody Versus Everybody. |
JaBbAMAn
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.06.10 08:28:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:JaBbAMAn wrote:this just shows that this game will never become up to par with other mmo's...... pretty sad thats its pretty much pointless to spend isk and alot of time to make your ship perform to its full potential cuz some jelous assholes will just blow you up.... empire should be non pvp zone unless your at war.... i would bet 1 billion isk subscription numbers would increase by alot. EvE would die a pretty quick death. And people have gone out missioning in their State Ravens. If you're smart about what you're doing, you can pimp your shi t out beyond all reason and do so safely.
There might be a small decline in numbers off the bat because butthurt griefers dont get there way but the sub numbers would rise once the word got out that you can pve in saftey.... theres other mmo's that are worst quality then this and prob have 200k people playing at any given time.... highest ive seen since i resubbed..... ( I regret)..... is 30k.... |
Pak Narhoo
Knights of Kador
553
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Posted - 2012.06.10 08:30:00 -
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JaBbAMAn wrote:Pak Narhoo wrote:JaBbAMAn wrote:this just shows that this game will never become up to par with other mmo's...... pretty sad thats its pretty much pointless to spend isk and alot of time to make your ship perform to its full potential cuz some jelous assholes will just blow you up.... empire should be non pvp zone unless your at war.... i would bet 1 billion isk subscription numbers would increase by alot. Wut? What dont you understand? pvpers have plenty of space to pvp in.... lowsec and 0.0.... oh and wormholes.... why cant pve'ers have a safe zone to pve?
You're one of those who don't get it I see. *Everything* in EVE is PvP. Turning it into what you say 'other MMO' = theme park, will kill it.
Next to that, the shown fit is horribly stupid. It's like shouting in local Goon controled space "all Goons **** their ****" and expect NOT to get shot.
Nobody in his right mind would fly this. And again the fit stinks.
Hi, I'm CCP Arrow, I screwed up the.. ummm... |
Josef Djugashvilis
The Scope Gallente Federation
305
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Posted - 2012.06.10 08:32:00 -
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JaBbAMAn wrote:this just shows that this game will never become up to par with other mmo's...... pretty sad thats its pretty much pointless to spend isk and alot of time to make your ship perform to its full potential cuz some jelous assholes will just blow you up.... empire should be non pvp zone unless your at war.... i would bet 1 billion isk subscription numbers would increase by alot.
Nonsense, absolute and utter nonsense. You want fries with that? |
JaBbAMAn
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.06.10 08:33:00 -
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Pak Narhoo wrote:JaBbAMAn wrote:Pak Narhoo wrote:JaBbAMAn wrote:this just shows that this game will never become up to par with other mmo's...... pretty sad thats its pretty much pointless to spend isk and alot of time to make your ship perform to its full potential cuz some jelous assholes will just blow you up.... empire should be non pvp zone unless your at war.... i would bet 1 billion isk subscription numbers would increase by alot. Wut? What dont you understand? pvpers have plenty of space to pvp in.... lowsec and 0.0.... oh and wormholes.... why cant pve'ers have a safe zone to pve? You're one of those who don't get it I see. *Everything* in EVE is PvP. Turning it into what you say 'other MMO' = theme park, will kill it. Next to that, the shown fit is horribly stupid. It's like shouting in local Goon controled space "all Goons **** their ****" and expect NOT to get shot. Nobody in his right mind would fly this. And again the fit stinks.
Ya... my suggestion might edge closer to the term "theme park" but it wouldnt..... people only get killed in highsec due to griefers (or wars, thats not bad... i like wars).... griefers are never a good thing to ignore. This game would still be the best pvp mmo around.
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RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
1845
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Posted - 2012.06.10 08:48:00 -
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JaBbAMAn wrote:RubyPorto wrote:JaBbAMAn wrote:this just shows that this game will never become up to par with other mmo's...... pretty sad thats its pretty much pointless to spend isk and alot of time to make your ship perform to its full potential cuz some jelous assholes will just blow you up.... empire should be non pvp zone unless your at war.... i would bet 1 billion isk subscription numbers would increase by alot. EvE would die a pretty quick death. And people have gone out missioning in their State Ravens. If you're smart about what you're doing, you can pimp your shi t out beyond all reason and do so safely. There might be a small decline in numbers off the bat because butthurt griefers dont get there way but the sub numbers would rise once the word got out that you can pve in saftey.... theres other mmo's that are worst quality then this and prob have 200k people playing at any given time.... highest ive seen since i resubbed..... ( I regret)..... is 30k....
No other MMO has experienced growth every single year for 9 years. Every other MMO (even WoW) coasts down to the next new expansion grind while the company hopes they don't run out of money before the expansion launches. EvE's sub numbers generally grow between expansions.
WoW peaked in 2010 at 12m Subs and has declined steadily to 10m. Next biggest is Aion, peaked at 4m in mid 2009, has declined steadily to 2.5m SWOTOR peaked at just under 2 in January and is already back to 1.5. Second Life is finally leveling off at 800k (honestly not familiar with SL gameplay) Warhammer Online peaked at 800k in mid 08 and crashed to 100k by 2010 Age of Conan, same, but at 700k. Rift, peaked at 600k in mid 2011, now down at 250k. LOTR Online, peaked at 575 in 2011, now at 250k
Now, drumroll please, EvE, peaked at ~460k before Incarna, dropped to ~412k, and has recovered back to ~445k and is on track to break 460k again before Incarna's anniversary.
So which MMO's regularly have 200k people online? WoW only? Maaaybe WoW and Aion? SWOTOR might have peaks hitting 200k, but I doubt that's consistant. Runescape's 800k subs obviously can't support 200k online at a time.
Sidenote, Second Life is the only one with higher PCUs on a single shard than EvE.
1-12m Peak MMOs 150k-1m Peak MMOs
In other words, not only are you full of shit; you are demonstrably so. This is EVE. -á Everybody Versus Everybody. |
Arec Bardwin
Perkone Caldari State
603
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Posted - 2012.06.10 09:02:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote: In other words, not only are you full of shit; you are demonstrably so.
Luckily CCP agrees on this (for now) |
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seany1212
Zat's Affiliated Traders Originally Riotous Corps
191
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Posted - 2012.06.10 09:10:00 -
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JaBbAMAn wrote:Pak Narhoo wrote:JaBbAMAn wrote:Pak Narhoo wrote:JaBbAMAn wrote:this just shows that this game will never become up to par with other mmo's...... pretty sad thats its pretty much pointless to spend isk and alot of time to make your ship perform to its full potential cuz some jelous assholes will just blow you up.... empire should be non pvp zone unless your at war.... i would bet 1 billion isk subscription numbers would increase by alot. Wut? What dont you understand? pvpers have plenty of space to pvp in.... lowsec and 0.0.... oh and wormholes.... why cant pve'ers have a safe zone to pve? You're one of those who don't get it I see. *Everything* in EVE is PvP. Turning it into what you say 'other MMO' = theme park, will kill it. Next to that, the shown fit is horribly stupid. It's like shouting in local Goon controled space "all Goons **** their ****" and expect NOT to get shot. Nobody in his right mind would fly this. And again the fit stinks. Ya... my suggestion might edge closer to the term "theme park" but it wouldnt..... people only get killed in highsec due to griefers (or wars, thats not bad... i like wars).... griefers are never a good thing to ignore. This game would still be the best pvp mmo around.
http://www.evenews24.com/2012/06/07/poetic-discourse-if-eve-online-were-more-theme-park-subscriptions-would-skyrocket/
This post supports that you talk nothing but waffle. |
RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
1845
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Posted - 2012.06.10 09:19:00 -
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Arec Bardwin wrote:RubyPorto wrote: In other words, not only are you full of shit; you are demonstrably so.
Luckily CCP agrees on this (for now)
Hopefully they can be happy with 4th among Western MMOs, behind WoW (by GameStudio/Jesus Blizzard), SWOTOR (backed by the worlds biggest franchise this side of Coca-Cola and McDonalds), Runescape (Free to Play), and Second Life (still don't know what that's about). Hopefully Hillmar doesn't decide that Super-Mega-Extra Greed-is-Good, and that EvE has to go to number 1 or bust.
Seriously, little Icelandic studio has the 4th Biggest MMO in the world. This is EVE. -á Everybody Versus Everybody. |
Makkal Hanaya
Drakenburg
86
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Posted - 2012.06.10 09:21:00 -
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JaBbAMAn wrote:this just shows that this game will never become up to par with other mmo's...... pretty sad thats its pretty much pointless to spend isk and alot of time to make your ship perform to its full potential cuz some jelous assholes will just blow you up.... empire should be non pvp zone unless your at war.... i would bet 1 billion isk subscription numbers would increase by alot. This is a bad post and you ought to feel bad.
And I say this as someone who has no interest high-sec PvP. although my eyes were open they might have just as well've been closed
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Degren
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1388
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Posted - 2012.06.10 09:22:00 -
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Not nearly enough upvotes You don't know. |||| Space News |
JaBbAMAn
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.06.10 09:25:00 -
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ya okay w.e...... this game is run by egomaniacs who's whole purpose in this game is to grief other players.... and dont tell me this game has over 400k people playing... most everyone has multiple alt accounts so shove that up your ass. This game will stay small and cater to griefers.... i guess this game can act like a sponge and keep soaking up all those lowlife scum. Thats one good side of this game. |
Pak Narhoo
Knights of Kador
553
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Posted - 2012.06.10 09:29:00 -
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JaBbAMAn wrote:ya okay w.e...... this game is run by egomaniacs who's whole purpose in this game is to grief other players.... and dont tell me this game has over 400k people playing... most everyone has multiple alt accounts so shove that up your ass. This game will stay small and cater to griefers.... i guess this game can act like a sponge and keep soaking up all those lowlife scum. Thats one good side of this game.
What part of 'Everything you do in EVE is PvP' do you not understand? Hi, I'm CCP Arrow, I screwed up the.. ummm... |
JaBbAMAn
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.06.10 09:31:00 -
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Pak Narhoo wrote:JaBbAMAn wrote:ya okay w.e...... this game is run by egomaniacs who's whole purpose in this game is to grief other players.... and dont tell me this game has over 400k people playing... most everyone has multiple alt accounts so shove that up your ass. This game will stay small and cater to griefers.... i guess this game can act like a sponge and keep soaking up all those lowlife scum. Thats one good side of this game. What part of 'Everything you do in EVE is PvP' do you not understand?
LOL I like how you call this killmail pvp...... |
Peta Michalek
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
9
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Posted - 2012.06.10 09:31:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:In other words, not only are you full of shit; you are demonstrably so.
Oh the irony, I can almost taste it.
I won't bother dissecting all the BS you made up or misinterpreted in you post but I'd just like to point out that EVE doesn't stand for "Everyone versus Everyone" or "Everybody versus Everybody". "EVE" in "EVE Online" stands for the EVE Gate. Nothing more, nothing less. Just because you back-interpreted it as an acronym doesn't actually make it one and it certainly doesn't make it an actual argument, which you apparently think it is since you bring it up whenever you post. Which makes you look like an idiot, by the way.
@JaBbAMAn: 8/10 |
RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
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Posted - 2012.06.10 09:34:00 -
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JaBbAMAn wrote:ya okay w.e...... this game is run by egomaniacs who's whole purpose in this game is to grief other players.... and dont tell me this game has over 400k people playing... most everyone has multiple alt accounts so shove that up your ass. This game will stay small and cater to griefers.... i guess this game can act like a sponge and keep soaking up all those lowlife scum. Thats one good side of this game.
Every game has alts. But each sub brings in the same revenue as every other sub, alt or not. 400k subs is still the 5th* Largest Subscription base of Western MMOs (inc ftp Runescape and Second Life which, as ftp, are really in a different category when talking sub numbers).
How the hell is having the 5th largest subscriber base among western MMOs and 3rd among Paid Western MMOs staying "small?"
*apparently I can't always count to 5 accurately. This is EVE. -á Everybody Versus Everybody. |
RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
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Posted - 2012.06.10 09:36:00 -
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Peta Michalek wrote:RubyPorto wrote:In other words, not only are you full of shit; you are demonstrably so. Oh the irony, I can almost taste it. I won't bother dissecting all the BS you made up or misinterpreted in you post but I'd just like to point out that EVE doesn't stand for "Everyone versus Everyone" or "Everybody versus Everybody". "EVE" in "EVE Online" stands for the EVE Gate. Nothing more, nothing less. Just because you back-interpreted it as an acronym doesn't actually make it one and it certainly doesn't make it an actual argument, which you apparently think it is since you bring it up whenever you post. Which makes you look like an idiot, by the way. @JaBbAMAn: 8/10
Hi, welcome to the EvE-O Forums. Like many forums, EvE-O allows users to express themselves within a segmented area attached to the bottom of their posts called a signature.
I believe you just failed the Internet.
EDIT: It Even has a Line now. The old forums had no line separating post from Sig, and most people still understood what a sig was. This is EVE. -á Everybody Versus Everybody. |
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JaBbAMAn
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.06.10 09:38:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:JaBbAMAn wrote:ya okay w.e...... this game is run by egomaniacs who's whole purpose in this game is to grief other players.... and dont tell me this game has over 400k people playing... most everyone has multiple alt accounts so shove that up your ass. This game will stay small and cater to griefers.... i guess this game can act like a sponge and keep soaking up all those lowlife scum. Thats one good side of this game. Every game has alts. But each sub brings in the same revenue as every other sub, alt or not. 400k subs is still the 5th* Largest Subscription base of Western MMOs (inc ftp Runescape and Second Life which, as ftp, are really in a different category when talking sub numbers). How the hell is having the 5th largest subscriber base among western MMOs and 3rd among Paid Western MMOs staying "small?" *apparently I can't always count to 5 accurately.
I cant think of another mmo where people would have multiple " alt accounts " not talking about alt characters.
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Uinuva Karma
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
44
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Posted - 2012.06.10 09:39:00 -
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JaBbAMAn wrote:this just shows that this game will never become up to par with other mmo's...... pretty sad thats its pretty much pointless to spend isk and alot of time to make your ship perform to its full potential cuz some jelous assholes will just blow you up.... empire should be non pvp zone unless your at war.... i would bet 1 billion isk subscription numbers would increase by alot.
WHAT
Why would he fly a pimped BATTLESHIP if he wasn't prepared to blow things up with it?
Captain Kirk didn't stay in hisec.-á
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RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
1845
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Posted - 2012.06.10 09:43:00 -
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JaBbAMAn wrote:RubyPorto wrote:JaBbAMAn wrote:ya okay w.e...... this game is run by egomaniacs who's whole purpose in this game is to grief other players.... and dont tell me this game has over 400k people playing... most everyone has multiple alt accounts so shove that up your ass. This game will stay small and cater to griefers.... i guess this game can act like a sponge and keep soaking up all those lowlife scum. Thats one good side of this game. Every game has alts. But each sub brings in the same revenue as every other sub, alt or not. 400k subs is still the 5th* Largest Subscription base of Western MMOs (inc ftp Runescape and Second Life which, as ftp, are really in a different category when talking sub numbers). How the hell is having the 5th largest subscriber base among western MMOs and 3rd among Paid Western MMOs staying "small?" *apparently I can't always count to 5 accurately. I cant think of another mmo where people would have multiple " alt accounts " not talking about alt characters.
Try answering the question before you throw out a red herring.
How the hell is having the 5th largest subscriber base among western MMOs and 3rd among Paid Western MMOs staying "small?" This is EVE. -á Everybody Versus Everybody. |
Lexmana
Fweddit I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
537
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Posted - 2012.06.10 10:53:00 -
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Pak Narhoo wrote:this just shows that this game will never become up to par with other mmo's...... pretty sad thats its pretty much pointless to spend isk and alot of time to make your ship perform to its full potential cuz some jelous assholes will just blow you up.... empire should be non pvp zone unless your at war.... i would bet 1 billion isk subscription numbers would increase by alot. No, it shows that this game is way above other MMOs. In EVE you have to think about the consequences and not just mindlessly get the best 'gear' in-game and own everybody else. |
Phill Esteen
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
32
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Posted - 2012.06.10 11:04:00 -
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JaBbAMAn wrote:this just shows that this game will never become up to par with other mmo's...... pretty sad thats its pretty much pointless to spend isk and alot of time to make your ship perform to its full potential cuz some jelous assholes will just blow you up.... empire should be non pvp zone unless your at war.... i would bet 1 billion isk subscription numbers would increase by alot.
This, a thousand times this. I can't count the number of times I've contemplated dropping a few dozen billion on my mission Tristan only to come to the realization that there is no reason to play this game and unsub my 5,000 accounts instead. GÇô postum faex est GÇô-á |
TheBreadMuncher
Boxxed Up Industries EPIC Alliance
108
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Posted - 2012.06.10 11:06:00 -
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Poor gankers. Two Estamel's invulns failed to drop. I only ever emerge from the shadows when my main is banned. |
Pak Narhoo
Knights of Kador
555
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Posted - 2012.06.10 11:11:00 -
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Lexmana wrote:Pak Narhoo wrote:this just shows that this game will never become up to par with other mmo's...... pretty sad thats its pretty much pointless to spend isk and alot of time to make your ship perform to its full potential cuz some jelous assholes will just blow you up.... empire should be non pvp zone unless your at war.... i would bet 1 billion isk subscription numbers would increase by alot. No, it shows that this game is way above other MMOs. In EVE you have to think about the consequences and not just mindlessly get the best 'gear' in-game and own everybody else.
Hey! I didn't wrote that! Hi, I'm CCP Arrow, I screwed up the.. ummm... |
George Whitebread
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
31
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Posted - 2012.06.10 11:14:00 -
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Pak Narhoo wrote:Lexmana wrote:Pak Narhoo wrote:this just shows that this game will never become up to par with other mmo's...... pretty sad thats its pretty much pointless to spend isk and alot of time to make your ship perform to its full potential cuz some jelous assholes will just blow you up.... empire should be non pvp zone unless your at war.... i would bet 1 billion isk subscription numbers would increase by alot. No, it shows that this game is way above other MMOs. In EVE you have to think about the consequences and not just mindlessly get the best 'gear' in-game and own everybody else. Hey! I didn't wrote that!
LOL.
"I say what I like, and I like what I bloody well say" - George Whitebread |
Gawain Edmond
Selective Hearing Nearly Feared
3
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Posted - 2012.06.10 11:20:00 -
[49] - Quote
JaBbAMAn wrote:Pak Narhoo wrote:JaBbAMAn wrote:this just shows that this game will never become up to par with other mmo's...... pretty sad thats its pretty much pointless to spend isk and alot of time to make your ship perform to its full potential cuz some jelous assholes will just blow you up.... empire should be non pvp zone unless your at war.... i would bet 1 billion isk subscription numbers would increase by alot. Wut? What dont you understand? pvpers have plenty of space to pvp in.... lowsec and 0.0.... oh and wormholes.... why cant pve'ers have a safe zone to pve?
i know quoting from the first page but i came up with a good answer :D
PvP is player v player PvE is player v eve eve is everyone v everyone else
so everywhere has to be PvP'able in eve or it'd have to get a new name |
Einaudi
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.06.10 11:22:00 -
[50] - Quote
What a nightmare... |
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RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
1846
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Posted - 2012.06.10 11:27:00 -
[51] - Quote
Pak Narhoo wrote:Lexmana wrote:Pak Narhoo wrote:this just shows that this game will never become up to par with other mmo's...... pretty sad thats its pretty much pointless to spend isk and alot of time to make your ship perform to its full potential cuz some jelous assholes will just blow you up.... empire should be non pvp zone unless your at war.... i would bet 1 billion isk subscription numbers would increase by alot. No, it shows that this game is way above other MMOs. In EVE you have to think about the consequences and not just mindlessly get the best 'gear' in-game and own everybody else. Hey! I didn't wrote that! I like my EVE with bloodthirsty scoundrels, knifes on the table, only docked up you're save and that's only if you don't trade or do contracts. PvP everywhere!
Oh, BBCode, you so silly. This is EVE. -á Everybody Versus Everybody. |
Cutter Isaacson
Peace N Quiet
411
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Posted - 2012.06.10 11:33:00 -
[52] - Quote
JaBbAMAn wrote:ya okay w.e...... this game is run by egomaniacs who's whole purpose in this game is to grief other players.... and dont tell me this game has over 400k people playing... most everyone has multiple alt accounts so shove that up your ass. This game will stay small and cater to griefers.... i guess this game can act like a sponge and keep soaking up all those lowlife scum. Thats one good side of this game.
You aren't too bright are you? Numbers of terminally stupid people seem to be on the increase, I suggest we have a real life Stupidageddon to rectify this issue. |
Culmen
0utLaw. Northern Coalition.
86
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Posted - 2012.06.10 11:50:00 -
[53] - Quote
Cutter Isaacson wrote:JaBbAMAn wrote:ya okay w.e...... this game is run by egomaniacs who's whole purpose in this game is to grief other players.... and dont tell me this game has over 400k people playing... most everyone has multiple alt accounts so shove that up your ass. This game will stay small and cater to griefers.... i guess this game can act like a sponge and keep soaking up all those lowlife scum. Thats one good side of this game. You aren't too bright are you?
Who's dimmer, the troll or the one who feeds him?
as for the fit.
Damn, that smacks of Ebay. Not even an faction tracking comp. I think my nightmare would outpreform it at a fraction of the cost. There is a fine line between a post and a signature. |
Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
174
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Posted - 2012.06.10 12:01:00 -
[54] - Quote
RubyPorto wrote:JaBbAMAn wrote:this just shows that this game will never become up to par with other mmo's...... pretty sad thats its pretty much pointless to spend isk and alot of time to make your ship perform to its full potential cuz some jelous assholes will just blow you up.... empire should be non pvp zone unless your at war.... i would bet 1 billion isk subscription numbers would increase by alot. EvE would die a pretty quick death.
It wouldn't, the only thing it would do is make you cry oceans of tears because you couldn't touch his tralala, eve shouldn't be safe yadayada brb |
Lexmana
Fweddit I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
537
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Posted - 2012.06.10 12:02:00 -
[55] - Quote
Pak Narhoo wrote:Lexmana wrote: JaBbAMAn wrote:this just shows that this game will never become up to par with other mmo's...... pretty sad thats its pretty much pointless to spend isk and alot of time to make your ship perform to its full potential cuz some jelous assholes will just blow you up.... empire should be non pvp zone unless your at war.... i would bet 1 billion isk subscription numbers would increase by alot. No, it shows that this game is way above other MMOs. In EVE you have to think about the consequences and not just mindlessly get the best 'gear' in-game and own everybody else. Hey! I didn't wrote that! I like my EVE with bloodthirsty scoundrels, knifes on the table, only docked up you're save and that's only if you don't trade or do contracts. PvP everywhere!
Sorry about that. I tried to steal some of your work ... and failed. I am good at failing :) Fixed above. |
Lady Aja
59
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Posted - 2012.06.10 12:08:00 -
[56] - Quote
JaBbAMAn wrote:Pak Narhoo wrote:JaBbAMAn wrote:this just shows that this game will never become up to par with other mmo's...... pretty sad thats its pretty much pointless to spend isk and alot of time to make your ship perform to its full potential cuz some jelous assholes will just blow you up.... empire should be non pvp zone unless your at war.... i would bet 1 billion isk subscription numbers would increase by alot. Wut? What dont you understand? pvpers have plenty of space to pvp in.... lowsec and 0.0.... oh and wormholes.... why cant pve'ers have a safe zone to pve?
they do. its called docking up and playing the market or building ****. next you will want all missions and exploration sites to have private instances. where is my ability to link a sig properly CCP you munters!! |
Pak Narhoo
Knights of Kador
555
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Posted - 2012.06.10 12:24:00 -
[57] - Quote
Lexmana wrote:Sorry about that. I tried to steal some of your work ... and failed. I am good at failing :) Fixed above.
No problem. Thank you.
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RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
1846
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Posted - 2012.06.10 12:28:00 -
[58] - Quote
Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:RubyPorto wrote:JaBbAMAn wrote:this just shows that this game will never become up to par with other mmo's...... pretty sad thats its pretty much pointless to spend isk and alot of time to make your ship perform to its full potential cuz some jelous assholes will just blow you up.... empire should be non pvp zone unless your at war.... i would bet 1 billion isk subscription numbers would increase by alot. EvE would die a pretty quick death. It wouldn't, the only thing it would do is make you cry oceans of tears because you couldn't touch his tralala, eve shouldn't be safe yadayada
EvE is currently the third largest paid Western MMO on the market. One and Two are held my Blizzard and LucasFilms. They would seem to have other things going for them besides game quality. EvE doesn't.
So, then what makes EvE special? What makes it stand out from other MMOs in such a way that it gets more subs every single year?
What's different? Integrated PvP. This is EVE. -á Everybody Versus Everybody. |
Rengerel en Distel
Amarr Science and Industry
179
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Posted - 2012.06.10 12:42:00 -
[59] - Quote
RubyPorto wrote:Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:RubyPorto wrote:JaBbAMAn wrote:this just shows that this game will never become up to par with other mmo's...... pretty sad thats its pretty much pointless to spend isk and alot of time to make your ship perform to its full potential cuz some jelous assholes will just blow you up.... empire should be non pvp zone unless your at war.... i would bet 1 billion isk subscription numbers would increase by alot. EvE would die a pretty quick death. It wouldn't, the only thing it would do is make you cry oceans of tears because you couldn't touch his tralala, eve shouldn't be safe yadayada EvE is currently the third largest paid Western MMO on the market. One and Two are held my Blizzard and LucasFilms. They would seem to have other things going for them besides game quality. EvE doesn't. So, then what makes EvE special? What makes it stand out from other MMOs in such a way that it gets more subs every single year? What's different? Integrated PvP.
No, what's different is that by playing the game, you can earn isk that pays for your gametime. It's essentially a free to play model where you can keep full access unlike other FTP models. Someone is paying for your upgrade by buying a PLEX, but it's not always you. Remove PLEX, and the gameplay wouldn't hold up without really going FTP.
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Qvar Dar'Zanar
EVE University Ivy League
48
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Posted - 2012.06.10 12:50:00 -
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edited |
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baltec1
1417
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Posted - 2012.06.10 13:02:00 -
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JaBbAMAn wrote:Pak Narhoo wrote:JaBbAMAn wrote:ya okay w.e...... this game is run by egomaniacs who's whole purpose in this game is to grief other players.... and dont tell me this game has over 400k people playing... most everyone has multiple alt accounts so shove that up your ass. This game will stay small and cater to griefers.... i guess this game can act like a sponge and keep soaking up all those lowlife scum. Thats one good side of this game. What part of 'Everything you do in EVE is PvP' do you not understand? LOL I like how you call this killmail pvp......
The nighmare pilot was killed by other players. Player vs player seems the correct term to use given that it was a player vs player event. |
Copine Callmeknau
Kangaroos With Frickin Lazerbeams Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
191
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Posted - 2012.06.10 13:05:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:Copine Callmeknau wrote:Christ Not even a good fit 5 heat sinks :/ I think the number of heat sinks is defensible, since he clearly didn't need more tank. The amount of ISK he spent on that shi tfit is, of course, indefensible. ... and the mids are pretty bad regardless of cost. wut? There is no excuse to fit 4'th/5'th dmg mod over dual tracking enhancers, especially when you look at how awesomesauce tobias TE's are.
20% tracking each omnom There should be a rather awesome pic here |
Phill Esteen
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
32
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Posted - 2012.06.10 13:08:00 -
[63] - Quote
baltec1 wrote:JaBbAMAn wrote:Pak Narhoo wrote:JaBbAMAn wrote:ya okay w.e...... this game is run by egomaniacs who's whole purpose in this game is to grief other players.... and dont tell me this game has over 400k people playing... most everyone has multiple alt accounts so shove that up your ass. This game will stay small and cater to griefers.... i guess this game can act like a sponge and keep soaking up all those lowlife scum. Thats one good side of this game. What part of 'Everything you do in EVE is PvP' do you not understand? LOL I like how you call this killmail pvp...... The nighmare pilot was killed by other players. Player vs player seems the correct term to use given that it was a player vs player event.
true pvp is done in arenas, under controlled conditions
when gankings happen like this in the wild, the results are invalid GÇô postum faex est GÇô-á |
Josef Djugashvilis
The Scope Gallente Federation
306
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Posted - 2012.06.10 13:11:00 -
[64] - Quote
JaBbAMAn wrote:ya okay w.e...... this game is run by egomaniacs who's whole purpose in this game is to grief other players.... and dont tell me this game has over 400k people playing... most everyone has multiple alt accounts so shove that up your ass. This game will stay small and cater to griefers.... i guess this game can act like a sponge and keep soaking up all those lowlife scum. Thats one good side of this game.
I do not like games like WoW, so I do not play them.
You appear not to like Eve, may I suggest that it is not the game for you. You want fries with that? |
Arec Bardwin
Perkone Caldari State
603
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Posted - 2012.06.10 13:12:00 -
[65] - Quote
Phill Esteen wrote: true pvp is done in arenas, under controlled conditions
Where can I find these arenas?
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RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
1850
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Posted - 2012.06.10 13:28:00 -
[66] - Quote
Copine Callmeknau wrote:RubyPorto wrote:Copine Callmeknau wrote:Christ Not even a good fit 5 heat sinks :/ I think the number of heat sinks is defensible, since he clearly didn't need more tank. The amount of ISK he spent on that shi tfit is, of course, indefensible. ... and the mids are pretty bad regardless of cost. wut? There is no excuse to fit 4'th/5'th dmg mod over dual tracking enhancers, especially when you look at how awesomesauce tobias TE's are. 20% tracking each omnom
I was thinking using some of the worthless mids for TCs instead, but I'll grant that a TE certainly has as much merit as the fifth Heat sink. I will not grant that over the 4th. Mares have 4 Damage mods. This is EVE. -á Everybody Versus Everybody. |
Phill Esteen
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
32
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Posted - 2012.06.10 13:31:00 -
[67] - Quote
Arec Bardwin wrote:Phill Esteen wrote: true pvp is done in arenas, under controlled conditions
Where can I find these arenas?
Orgrimmar, the Tirisfal Glades, Nagrand, Blade's Edge Mountains, and Dalaran GÇô postum faex est GÇô-á |
Lexmana
Fweddit I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
538
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Posted - 2012.06.10 13:31:00 -
[68] - Quote
Phill Esteen wrote:true pvp is done in arenas, under controlled conditions
To protect the stupid, right?
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Degren
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1393
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Posted - 2012.06.10 13:35:00 -
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JaBbAMAn wrote:RubyPorto wrote:JaBbAMAn wrote:ya okay w.e...... this game is run by egomaniacs who's whole purpose in this game is to grief other players.... and dont tell me this game has over 400k people playing... most everyone has multiple alt accounts so shove that up your ass. This game will stay small and cater to griefers.... i guess this game can act like a sponge and keep soaking up all those lowlife scum. Thats one good side of this game. Every game has alts. But each sub brings in the same revenue as every other sub, alt or not. 400k subs is still the 5th* Largest Subscription base of Western MMOs (inc ftp Runescape and Second Life which, as ftp, are really in a different category when talking sub numbers). How the hell is having the 5th largest subscriber base among western MMOs and 3rd among Paid Western MMOs staying "small?" *apparently I can't always count to 5 accurately. I cant think of another mmo where people would have multiple " alt accounts " not talking about alt characters.
I had three WoW accounts when I played. Five for a period of about 2 months. I was a multiboxing king.
Oh yeah, I had two in EQ2, also. And like 4 in Ultima Online. Most the other MMOs I played weren't worth playing long enough to need multiple.
I was not alone in having all of these accounts in these games. Not even close. And I am absolutely, positively not the most extreme example, either. Again, not even close.
I have one account in Eve, and it is suiting me nicely. You don't know. |||| Space News |
Salonmom
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.06.10 15:31:00 -
[70] - Quote
You are all a bunch of eve lemmings I swear.
Obvious is obvious that this setup was done for the sole purpose of killing it and putting it on the kill board so some hormonal teenager could say "look at me, I am cool".
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Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy Black Sun Alliance
222
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Posted - 2012.06.10 15:40:00 -
[71] - Quote
Sir13 wrote:http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=8975336
Boom!
You mean most valuable . When you said most expensive I expected to see the golden gank ship used to kill a retriever ..not a crew of cheap battle ships against a smogasboard of high end mods. [IMG]http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a208/DawnFrostbringer/OldST.jpg[/IMG] |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
7816
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Posted - 2012.06.10 15:44:00 -
[72] - Quote
Phill Esteen wrote:true pvp is done in arenas, under controlled conditions Nah. There's nothing particularly GÇ£trueGÇ¥ about that GÇö it's just a way to restrict the amount of skills the participants need to show off (adaptation being culled from the test). GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
CONCORD spawns: quick enough to save you?
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Sir13
renditions of madness B A C K B 0 N E
3
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Posted - 2012.06.10 16:48:00 -
[73] - Quote
I love the idea of nowehere is safe in eve.... apart from the stations. Making high sec truely pvp free would see the number of mining and mission bots increase vastly, the market would crash which would make me sad :( and idiots who fly ships fitted in such a way would get to play eve :D
I like it just how it is |
Barbelo Valentinian
The Scope Gallente Federation
266
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Posted - 2012.06.10 17:53:00 -
[74] - Quote
That fit seems like overkill just to transport some Long-limb roes.
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EnslaverOfMinmatar
You gonna get aped
35
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Posted - 2012.06.10 18:27:00 -
[75] - Quote
PvP in EVE needs to be more like Lineage II. CONCORD should only spawn near the gates or stations in highsec and you're free to PK everywhere else. Every EVE player must read this http://www.eveonline.com/background/potw/default.asp?cid=29-01-07 or uninstall and DIAF |
Robus Muvila
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6
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Posted - 2012.06.10 19:22:00 -
[76] - Quote
In an attempt to try and pull this thing back on topic instead of turning it into another generic whinefest.
Makkal Hanaya wrote: he put Civilian Shield boosters on a Mackinaw.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA |
Seth Actault
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.06.11 09:00:00 -
[77] - Quote
That is one effing shiney pinata |
Ptraci
3 R Corporation The Irukandji
524
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Posted - 2012.06.11 11:01:00 -
[78] - Quote
Posting year old kill-mails like a boss... |
Medarr
ZeroSec
1
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Posted - 2012.06.11 11:54:00 -
[79] - Quote
JaBbAMAn wrote:ya okay w.e...... this game is run by egomaniacs who's whole purpose in this game is to grief other players.... and dont tell me this game has over 400k people playing... most everyone has multiple alt accounts so shove that up your ass. This game will stay small and cater to griefers.... i guess this game can act like a sponge and keep soaking up all those lowlife scum. Thats one good side of this game.
You sound really butt hurt.. maybe its time to gtfo and leave EvE to the big boys |
Skippermonkey
Tactical Knightmare
1034
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Posted - 2012.06.11 12:04:00 -
[80] - Quote
what the ****
why would you link a killmail that is a year and a half old?
srsly? My homeboys tried to warn me But that butt you got makes me so horny |
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Kijo Rikki
Killboard Padding Services
73
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Posted - 2012.06.11 12:39:00 -
[81] - Quote
And people said I was ******** rode the short bus often for doing level 4's in a meta drake.
EDIT: impressive word filter.... |
Vertisce Soritenshi
Tactical Vendor of Services and Goods Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage
1675
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Posted - 2012.06.11 13:58:00 -
[82] - Quote
That is probably not the most expensive verified kill. In fact...I know it isn't.
Where is the killmail for that hauler that lost the crapton of PLEX's a few years back? EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! |
Abdiel Kavash
Paladin Order Fidelas Constans
577
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Posted - 2012.06.11 14:38:00 -
[83] - Quote
Phill Esteen wrote:true pvp is done in arenas, under controlled conditions
when gankings happen like this in the wild, the results are invalid
The only true PvP is done on the forums. You, sir, appear to be losing. |
RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
1860
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Posted - 2012.06.11 15:39:00 -
[84] - Quote
Rengerel en Distel wrote:RubyPorto wrote:Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:RubyPorto wrote:JaBbAMAn wrote:this just shows that this game will never become up to par with other mmo's...... pretty sad thats its pretty much pointless to spend isk and alot of time to make your ship perform to its full potential cuz some jelous assholes will just blow you up.... empire should be non pvp zone unless your at war.... i would bet 1 billion isk subscription numbers would increase by alot. EvE would die a pretty quick death. It wouldn't, the only thing it would do is make you cry oceans of tears because you couldn't touch his tralala, eve shouldn't be safe yadayada EvE is currently the third largest paid Western MMO on the market. One and Two are held my Blizzard and LucasFilms. They would seem to have other things going for them besides game quality. EvE doesn't. So, then what makes EvE special? What makes it stand out from other MMOs in such a way that it gets more subs every single year? What's different? Integrated PvP. No, what's different is that by playing the game, you can earn isk that pays for your gametime. It's essentially a free to play model where you can keep full access unlike other FTP models. Someone is paying for your upgrade by buying a PLEX, but it's not always you. Remove PLEX, and the gameplay wouldn't hold up without really going FTP.
Ok, so it's the second biggest FTP MMO (behind Runescape) in the Western Market. That's pretty good, too. This is EVE. -á Everybody Versus Everybody. |
Thor Kerrigan
Guardians of Asceticism
87
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Posted - 2012.06.11 15:49:00 -
[85] - Quote
JaBbAMAn wrote:Pak Narhoo wrote:JaBbAMAn wrote:this just shows that this game will never become up to par with other mmo's...... pretty sad thats its pretty much pointless to spend isk and alot of time to make your ship perform to its full potential cuz some jelous assholes will just blow you up.... empire should be non pvp zone unless your at war.... i would bet 1 billion isk subscription numbers would increase by alot. Wut? What dont you understand? pvpers have plenty of space to pvp in.... lowsec and 0.0.... oh and wormholes.... why cant pve'ers have a safe zone to pve?
Because PVP happens everywhere? The safezones you describe would nerf other areas of EVE to such an extent that it won't make sense to make isk elsewhere as the risk/reward ratio will be through the roof in such areas.
Let's keep it simple: no risk = no reward in EVE Online. |
Private Pineapple
Rifterlings Damu'Khonde
71
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Posted - 2012.06.11 15:50:00 -
[86] - Quote
Mother of god. Support Damen Apol's proposal! -áSolve all problems with FW with a simple solution!
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=119683&find=unread |
Phill Esteen
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
33
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Posted - 2012.06.12 04:09:00 -
[87] - Quote
Abdiel Kavash wrote:Phill Esteen wrote:true pvp is done in arenas, under controlled conditions
when gankings happen like this in the wild, the results are invalid The only true PvP is done on the forums. You, sir, appear to be losing.
I will meet you in the posting arena, we will settle this GÇô postum faex est GÇô-á |
Gogela
Direct Action LLC.
808
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Posted - 2012.06.12 22:31:00 -
[88] - Quote
fixed.
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Morganta
Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia
1415
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Posted - 2012.06.12 22:37:00 -
[89] - Quote
I'm amazed to find someone managed to loose yet another cargo of 26 PLEX on the 1st.... http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=13635693 The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy |
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