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CCP Fallout
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Posted - 2009.10.19 13:49:00 -
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Faction ships are getting a makeover. Find out all the details by checking out CCP Ytterbium's newest dev blog.
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Avan Sercedos
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2009.10.19 13:53:00 -
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Edited by: Avan Sercedos on 19/10/2009 14:02:31 first
also reservation
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So are you sure we can't have Voltron-esque rogue drone ships?
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2009.10.19 13:57:00 -
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Nice nice
Win a Cap Recharger II BPO for 10M ISK |
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Milamar Tokugawa
Minmatar Tribal Core
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Posted - 2009.10.19 13:58:00 -
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Please Please fix the tier 1 navy cruisers, everyone but the Navy Augoror really dont perform any job :P Otherwise pretty good changes, still would like to see the firetail even faster than a inty :)
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Morscerta
Gallente Living in the Fridge
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Posted - 2009.10.19 14:00:00 -
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I would appreciate a little more diversity in Rogue Drone loot
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Pattern Clarc
Blue Republic
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Posted - 2009.10.19 14:04:00 -
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I'm really not happy with the Fleet tempest changes. Most would probably agree. ____ Domination Balance (Or how we fix the Tempest) |
Doomed Predator
Red Federation
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Posted - 2009.10.19 14:06:00 -
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But but, I'd really like a Rogue drone ship The 'Fendahlian Collective' strikes again |
Ulstan
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Posted - 2009.10.19 14:12:00 -
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Edited by: Ulstan on 19/10/2009 14:15:34 Good blog.
Highly agree that the navy scorp shouldn't be an ECM boat. Glad you made it the way you did instead.
Also glad to see the drone/missile/shield direction the guristas are taking. That's much better than just another set of shield/missile boats, which caldari already have tons of.
I do wish the fleet tempest could be a shield tanking turret boat. We have lots and lots of armor tanking turret boats.
Also, the hookbill is, IMO, by far the weakest of the navy frigates because it doesn't have the fitting to do much with standard missile launchers (and rockets are crap!) This could be a problem with frigate sized missiles in general, but both the worm and the hookbill have fitting issues trying to use SML's. (And rockets are in no situation worth using)
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Maliece
Decadence. RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.10.19 14:26:00 -
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nice blog, i like fraction ships, really but im still waiting to hear new stuff from the changes to zerozero so i¦m not really able to appreciate information about a secondary change in this comming update.
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Pattern Clarc
Blue Republic
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Posted - 2009.10.19 14:33:00 -
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Quote: Q: Why having camouflage skins on navy battleships? o A: The black and white skin you were used to on the Megathron Navy Issue has never been the proper Gallente Navy version paintjob and this is why it was changed.
Poor form on this also. I would have been happier if you just admitted that you just didn't have the art assets to work on the re-skin however suggesting that green was the official gallente navy colour seems like a cop out, especially when the DEIMOS HAS THE EXACT SAME COLOUR SCHEME.
Navy Comet would probably be considered as the best option (black with white detail). ____ Domination Balance (Or how we fix the Tempest) |
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Caldor Mansi
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Posted - 2009.10.19 14:38:00 -
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Nice. When will be Raiding and Purple gear introduced..?
Go ahead and make EVE dumber and dumber, you're doing it well. |
Waci
Southern Cross Empire Flying Dangerous
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Posted - 2009.10.19 14:38:00 -
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Wait, does this mean that some time in 2012 dreads will be able to turn into huge robots with vacuum cleaners? -------------------------------------------------
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Grarr Wrexx
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Posted - 2009.10.19 14:47:00 -
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So, Phantasm.
It loses a horrible amount of shields, and in place it gets... a little bit extra cap recharge, 4km's of locking range and some radar sensor str points?
I mean, what? Where's my XL package of energy turrets and shield tank?
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Trenjeska
Chumly Incorporated Space Exploration and Logistic Services
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Posted - 2009.10.19 14:55:00 -
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If one would be reading the test server feedback, one would know this allready.
TWO weeks without any communication and finally the silence gets broken,... for this?
Still not even a post for the bi-weekly chronicle... As I allready posted in general: Are you guys running out of material to tell us or are you afraid to tell us anything since the SiSi all Level V debGcle?
(faction ship changes were nice btw, been folowing it from the start)
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Armoured C
Gallente Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2009.10.19 14:57:00 -
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page one =D
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Reatu Krentor
Minmatar Void Spiders Fate Weavers
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Posted - 2009.10.19 15:00:00 -
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/me agrees with Pattern Clarc on both points.
I would greatly prefer the fleet tempest to stay 8-6-6, with equal armor and shield. It creates more potential fits then 8-5-7 ever will. One can shield tank it with a nano-ish gank fit, or armor tank it with 4 utility mids. 5 mids otoh won't allow for an acceptable shield tank.
When was it decided that the navy megathron(and by extension gallente navy) colour scheme is what is now on sisi? And who decided that? And what was his reasoning for camo in spaaaaaace? And why this kind of camo? There are nicer looking camouflage options for vessels if camo it has to be(for example(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dazzle_camouflage) and another(http://www.shipcamouflage.com/camouflage_database.htm)) -- stuff -- |
Vyktor Abyss
Gallente The Abyss Corporation
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Posted - 2009.10.19 15:09:00 -
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I hate the idea of Guristas being the new drone experts. Gallente are now kinda "defunct", especially since blaster tracking just gets worse and worse relative to other offensive weapons from various factors every patch, while other races get more buffs.
I despise the Navy Megathron skin change. You've made possibly the prettiest looking ship, one of the ugliest. What next? Baby-blue Nyx? Oh and I love the way you dont listen to your players telling you it looks crap and not to change it, for the sake of the 20 or so people that bought desk models.
With the exception of the new tier of Navy ships I dont see these changes improving Eve at all.
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Mookuh
Amarrian Retribution
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Posted - 2009.10.19 15:19:00 -
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Quote: However, we feel the current slot changes (5 med/ 7 lows) and the shield/armor hitpoint swap will help more as the almost mandatory PvP med slot equipment would inevitably conflict with a shield tank.
So, shieldtanking is not an option in PvP? I think this argument is nonsense, not only because you could use a Tempest Fleet Issue for e.g. PvE, but also because people do indeed PvP with 6-midslotted Shieldtankers... or even less :o Speedmod, Cap injector, 2 Extenders, 2 Invulns, leave tackling to someone else...
Likewise, saying "A Machariel with 7 mids wouldn't be any good" is horribly one sided. 7 mids... hm, MWD, Disruptor, Cap Injector, 2 Extenders, 2 Invlulns... Could work if you intend to use it as a "BS-size-Vaga"... if you want webs, you could employ web drones. Or go without the injector and add a web, large NOS, and pray. That said, the Machariel isn't designed to fly into web range in the first place, you get some 30 km falloff without Barrage with the new bonus.
Saying "It wouldn't work anyway" and arguing for flexibilty in the same blog is a little meh.
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Glassback
Body Count Inc. Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.10.19 15:20:00 -
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Vanilla.
Make em overpowered and expensive.
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2009.10.19 15:33:00 -
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Edited by: Abrazzar on 19/10/2009 15:33:19 You could add Equilibrium of Mankind ships to the encounter tables of any belt spawn roll, including faction spawns and even exploration encounters. Then you add EoM faction ship blueprints on the faction spawns. There. EoM just got seeded.
The reduced shield recharge rate needs to take into account the reduced effect of shield extenders on HP-buffed faction ships. At least on those that are could be feasibly passive shield tanked by design.
EDIT: I still want Guristas ships to be stealth turret snipers. -------- Ideas for: Mining
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Pattern Clarc
Blue Republic
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Posted - 2009.10.19 15:35:00 -
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Originally by: Mookuh So, shieldtanking is not an option in PvP? I think this argument is nonsense, not only because you could use a Tempest Fleet Issue for e.g. PvE, but also because people do indeed PvP with 6-midslotted Shieldtankers... or even less :o
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rubico1337
Caldari Mnemonic Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.10.19 15:49:00 -
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i am patiently waiting my new cynabal, the vaga on crack
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Arous Drephius
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Posted - 2009.10.19 15:49:00 -
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Originally by: Dev Blog Gravemetric sensor strength
Gravimetric sensor strength.
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Salpad
Carebears with Attitude
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Posted - 2009.10.19 15:54:00 -
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Originally by: Milamar Tokugawa Please Please fix the tier 1 navy cruisers, everyone but the Navy Augoror really dont perform any job :P Otherwise pretty good changes, still would like to see the firetail even faster than a inty :)
My alt liked his Navy Caracal cruiser just fine. Now he's in a Drake (of course), but it wasn't a bad little mini-Drake.
Or by tier 1, are you referring to Navy Osprey? That one looks a bit odd, but I've heard that some pilots likes it a lot.
-- Salpad C.E.O., Carebears with Attitude |
Inquisitor Lord
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.10.19 16:01:00 -
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Am I wrong, but isn't Ytterbium contradicting him with the Machariel?
He says it's designed to be a Kiting ship while also a PvP tackling one. Are you saying that this battleship can tackle and kite? Those two things seem totally opposite in regards to bships.
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Brutal Psycho
Amarr East Khanid Trading Khanid Trade Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.10.19 16:03:00 -
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Is there some reason The Khanid loyalty stores cannot get faction ships? They have all the things you say would be difficult to do to give EoM ships. Khanid have Space, Loyalty stores, Offices. Could we at least be able to buy the Amarr Navy ships from Khanid loyalty stores? As per the storyline the Khanid were re-included in the empire and have a seat again on the council so it would logically follow we could buy the Amarr navy ship designs. Thanks for considering this.
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Ancy Denaries
Caldari The Confederate Navy Forever Unbound
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Posted - 2009.10.19 16:05:00 -
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Originally by: Caldor Mansi Nice. When will be Raiding and Purple gear introduced..?
Go ahead and make EVE dumber and dumber, you're doing it well.
Whatever you are smoking, hand it over.
---- The Demigodess with a Conscience - An EVE IC Blog |
Pattern Clarc
Blue Republic
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Posted - 2009.10.19 16:11:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Ytterbium we do not want to nerf it on that aspect since it is supposed to be part of a sandbox game to adapt a ship outside its original purpose.
Originally by: CCP Ytterbium shield/armor hitpoint swap will help more as the almost mandatory PvP med slot equipment would inevitably conflict with a shield tank.
yeah. ____ Domination Balance (Or how we fix the Tempest) |
ArmyOfMe
Exotic Dancers Club
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Posted - 2009.10.19 16:18:00 -
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to bad u didnt listen to a lot of players in regards to the fleet pest, it will still by far be the worst of the navy battleships. it needed 7 mids and a dps boost so we could have had a good shieldtanker. this game is filled with armor tankers as it is.
Quote: However, we feel the current slot changes (5 med/ 7 lows) and the shield/armor hitpoint swap will help more as the almost mandatory PvP med slot equipment would inevitably conflict with a shield tank.
if that was true i wouldnt see as many maelstroms in pvp as i do
give us 5 lows and 7 mids so we can make a proper shield tank with good damage
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Caldor Mansi
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Posted - 2009.10.19 16:26:00 -
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Originally by: Ancy Denaries
Originally by: Caldor Mansi Nice. When will be Raiding and Purple gear introduced..?
Go ahead and make EVE dumber and dumber, you're doing it well.
Whatever you are smoking, hand it over.
No, I am not smoking anything.
Did you ever ask yourself how much SP and people participating you need to produce T2 ship? What is the point of complex, skill, resource and co-operation intensive T2 production when you can get faction ship just by grinding missions alone? What is massive market system for?
14 days old toon in Domi can run L4 and get the ship that is better than T2...
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