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Wotlankor
Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.10.22 11:39:00 -
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For some time Sylph space and the alliance as such has been in decline. It seems, finally, that CVA has seen it fit to react.
The remedy seems to come in the shape of a ônewö alliance called Golden Rule Alliance. This alliance is run by the former Sylph corps and pilots that were on the Cooch side during the leasdership crisis.
In the system of CBL-XP the Golden Rule Alliance has placed no less than 5 SOV claiming towers to oppose the single Sylph tower and they have already claimed sov in CB4-Q2.
It is however noteworthy to see how this new alliance fits in. Looking at the Concord record of the pilot Zayreth Nightstalker of The Golden Rule Alliance is claims the following:
Sylph Friendly. CVA/BTB/POE Friendly - Paxton/LFA/-7- Friendly Proud Member of The Covenant Coalition of Interstella Alliances
This indicates that Golden Rule Alliance sets Sylph higher than CVA and are in fact pets of Sylph. I do however think that this is a temporary solution and all Sylph can do is wait to be firmly told what to do by CVA. It is notable that Sylp think they will only loose this one constellation and I wonder if in fact Sylp did have a say in this matter at all.
Also notable is that Dark Taboo - BOO has sov in X3FQ-W. Why should they bow to Sylph when they are more than capable to stand on their own legs ? When will they get their own constellation?
In WJ-9YO Motivated & Determined have taken sov In 3-SFWG The Ascendent Dominion have taken sov In UQ-PWD Destined For Glory has taken sov
This can only be in preparation of the official concord changes to soverignty. And either CVA or Sylph is moving in the new renters and meat buffer.
Finally we have the new kid around the blog. Twilight Federation. We have yet to put their courage to the test but so far it seems it will be the Providence holders who's goodwill and patience that will be put to the test.
Having arrived fresh on the battlefield the pilot Mudlove proclaimed that Twilight Federation only barely tolerated CVA. In general the meeting was mixed as some of their pilots threw mud over the local channels and some of their pilots told the mud slingers to behave. Guees we all have our rotten apples by which the entire drum must not be judged.
When Twilight Federation arrived in Providence, Twilight Federation was not late to show their fangs and let their intentions be known that they would take sov by force from Sylph. CVA did the only honorable thing and informed Twilight Federation that they would stand by Sylph in the case of hostillities. The result is that we will soon see Twilight Federation take sov as well and Sylph was forced to accept mutual standings.
Twilight Federation cannot be happy with this arrangement and neither can Sylph. We will watch as this develops and who will be at whos throath as one tries to backstab the other. How will all the other new sov claimers react when it becomes obvious that they must abide the rules of Sylph, a mere 400 man alliance with almost no activity and no teeth to defend their own space or that of their allies. What does CVA feel toward Twilight Federation when there is no respect between them? How does Skyforger actually feel about this deal as they were the strongest opposers?
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Chooch Chooch
Chooch Inc. Twilight Federation
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Posted - 2009.10.22 12:48:00 -
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Wotlanker as someone who is great at writing fiction your facts are off. Please re check them as to who is who, what is what, where is where. etc.
I think readers grow weary to the mis factual ramblings of Ushra'Khan. Once you get the facts straight and stop trying to make up issues that don't exist or have been sorted or just came out of your beautiful fictitious mind.
I to wait with baited breath and a bag of popcorn to see how your wonderful story with great plot twists turns out
Oh and check my alliance ticker baby to start.
Chooch Inc. we have come for your women but they are too ugly!
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Wotlankor
Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.10.22 12:57:00 -
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Originally by: Chooch Chooch make up issues that don't exist or have been sorted...
Im glad you have sorted these differences. Now I hope you also can live in peace in time to come.
Originally by: Chooch Chooch Oh and check my alliance ticker baby to start...
Your alliance ticker is DUSK. So ?
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Stratio
Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.10.22 16:18:00 -
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Edited by: Stratio on 22/10/2009 16:19:30
Originally by: Chooch Chooch Wotlanker as someone who is great at writing fiction your facts are off.
Fiction?
Originally by: Chooch Chooch Please re check them as to who is who, what is what, where is where. etc.
Perhaps you could enlighten me as I asked that very question (without any speculation!) before seeing this transmission yet your reply was less than helpful.
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Conlin
Gallente Sarz'na Khumatari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.10.22 16:24:00 -
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Seems preety well spot on from what Ive witnessed over the past few weeks , I cant see where exactly Wotlankor has got it wrong , could you be a bit more specific in your accusations chooch ?. Or is it another flying rant where you dont go into any great detail , and just rant ?. We came for "your" women too , what we found can only be described as livestock !
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Wotlankor
Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.10.23 18:30:00 -
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Update: I must agree with Chooch that most of my ramblings were speculations and educated guesses but apparenntly not that far off. I must have hit a nerve and I did not see the full connection of all the new entities moving in to Catch and I assumed wrongly that Golden Alliance was the leader as they had taken the most SOV.
As stratio so elegantly put it there is noone that wants outwardly to take responsability or leadership of the space of northern Catch.
How does the following sound for fiction... ?
Sylph suffered an almost complete break down a week ago, or more precise almost broke in two.
The leadership of sylph as one party and an insider alliance as the other almost ripped the fragile alliance in two as the leadership made dealing behinds the pilots backs. At the same time the inside alliance that represent the stronger bodies of the industry and what little offensive forces that are left claim that the leadership simply are keeping the alliance alive to scim the milk so to speak and withdraw with a nice fat purse. And I quote: "[the leaderships is] hell bent on making their own profit for themselves taxing all corps and letting CVA dictate our terms" Also inside sources claim that the new alliances seen taking SOV on the map are not individual alliances but actualy a coalition who has Chooch as one of the front figures. The different forces in Sylph were instructed by the leadership to pull down the towers with in a week as Chooch and his lot moved in. CVA are simply waiting fro Sylph to fall apart so they can wash their hands and let the newcommers finally settle in. Who know if Sylph is allowed a few systems or even a constellation...
This is the main reasons that led to the internal rumblings that almost tore Sylph apart.
Chooch and his cronies tried to force a deal to seal A-VILQ and N8 for free but the fact they did not was the onlything that let Sylph remain in one piece as the Sylph leadership is not interested in loosing their income made on the backs of slaves and extorsion of the very memberbase of their alliance. Apparently this deal that Twilight Fedeation has made forces them to accept a CVA NAP (ofcource) as well as denying them what they wanted the most. NBSI. Lonewolfnight has already dictated the doctrine, terms and conditions.
Its seems the goal of Twilight Federation is to lead this coalition of new alliances south towards 2J and AAA space. Wild plans that has been vented is to assist Goons in the case that they make a move on Catch from the south. They then want to force AAA and Atlas to divert forces to deal with the coalition comming from northern Catch. If these plans ever come true we will see CVA make a move for HED at the same time and sieze this as a strategic access point.
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Klebitz
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Posted - 2009.10.24 00:08:00 -
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Wow very interesting read u seem to know very little and guess quite a bit. Hey Chooch pass the popcorn. This is actually one of they're more interesting works of fiction. :))
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Dinaahk Elam
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Posted - 2009.10.24 02:45:00 -
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Is this kinda what -A- did for UK install new renters in some of thier space to get ready for the upcoming changes? Oh I forgot you dont pay rent, yeah right, -A- just gave you those stations and systems because of your awesome Capital Fleet and PVP prowess.
However I can confirm with my UK spy that is in CVA, that CVA will indeed move to conquer HED since Providence only has 4 entry points in it from high security space they will need a 5th so that they can move all of that Mercoxit and R64 moon materials out through to Jita.
Wait that cant be right, Providence has none of that, I must be full of balogna like the OP.
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Youlikethat
The Golden Rule The Golden Rule Alliance
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Posted - 2009.10.24 07:56:00 -
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Pass the popcorn.
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stormy73401
The Golden Rule The Golden Rule Alliance
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Posted - 2009.10.24 08:55:00 -
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I absolutely love speculation! I want mine buttered!!!
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Wotlankor
Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.10.24 11:02:00 -
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Once again as pointed out by Conlin your side brings very little to the table in regards to being specific. That was expected.
Klebitz - It's your space that is being devided and you who should start having a look at what is actualy happening in your space. Or are you one of those that profit from this and welcome Chooch and the rest as "saviors"? Do you think that they will make your space safe so you finally can get more kills than losses behind the safety of the blob?
Dinaahk Elam - Comes from one of those that actualy do make a great profit on the backs of the regular pilots in Sylph and ofcource welcome more people to make more money of. Im sure all your well reasearched blueprints will bring you fortunes. I salute your trading and political abilities.
Youlikethat - I see you are very new to the providence area, I welcome you and hope you will find a pleasant home. Comment on transmissions when you have settled in and know what is going on. 2-3 weeks does not gain you comprehensin of the politics.
stormy73401 - Welcome to the area as well may you find peace and prosperity... Will you be flying a new ECM/sensordamning/tracking disrupting/plated Legion anytime soon again? Comment on transmissions when you have settled in and know what is going on. 2-3 weeks does not gain you comprehensin of the politics.
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Wotlankor
Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.10.24 12:47:00 -
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And so it came to pass...
The war between Ion Heavy Industries and Ushra'Khan is coming to an end. Ion Heavy Industries has surrendered to Ushra'Khan. The war will be declared as being over after approximately 24 hours.
Late last night Ion Heavy Industries left Sylph and thereby Sylph is now under 400 members.
Name Sylph Alliance Ticker SYLPH Members 391
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Conlin
Gallente Sarz'na Khumatari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.10.24 14:59:00 -
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I can only Surmise that these relatively new faces to the ongoings of a dying alliance seek faith in ignorance . Sylph was torn apart by greed and lack of honour . I look forward to fighting this new breed ,that has scurried & backstabbed its own leadership for greed .
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Dinaahk Elam
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Posted - 2009.10.24 18:45:00 -
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Actually I make a great profit off of everyone UK included, all I have to do is bring ships to Esa that I build and buy and everyone from Providence including UK seems to buy them there.
So I am all good with making isk out of that entry point to Providence.
However I still love the fact that you guys keep thinking I have anything to do with Sylph. It is that useless speculation just like in your useless analasis in these posts of what is going to happen when the Immaginary Goon invasion takes Catch and the Immaginary CVA invasion takes HED that really makes me want to come here and poke fun.
But I didnt know how much FUN this can really be, you guys have truly made my Galnet reading enjoyable. I now await to find out more of your fantom facts on how Lonewolfnight of CVA actually runs Sylph.
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Wotlankor
Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.10.24 19:27:00 -
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You did read my comments on "wild plans" indicating it is unlikely?
I said that Twilight Federation had plans in moving south towards 2J.
I then went on to shed light on something that has been vented in these discussions.
"Wild plans that has been vented is to assist Goons in the case that they make a move on Catch from the south. They then want to force AAA and Atlas to divert forces to deal with the coalition comming from northern Catch. If these plans ever come true we will see CVA make a move for HED at the same time and sieze this as a strategic access point."
This is all very hypothetical but non the less these "wild plans" have been brought forth and they have been discussed and the Sylph counsil informed.
You seem to be under the assumption that I said "this is what is going to happen"... I did not. But I am happy that your mind can twist words to entertain you.
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Zayreth Nightstalker
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Posted - 2009.10.24 20:22:00 -
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Greetings fellow Catch pilots i would like to inform you of the Golden Rules future plans (kthxbai)
As the executors of the BOB/KIA/Goon/Atlas/AAA (insert random alliance here) Coalition we are going to demand CCP remove Vaga and cloaks from the game and make cookies for CVA, get sylph over 9000!!oneuno!11!1one members and then make UK dance for us.
On a more serious note, Wotlankor, if all you want are "facts" to post please speak to our diplomat ingame and he can inform you untill you go afk & cloak. As for your comment about setting Sylph higher then CVA you are correct i did set them higher in my Bio just because i couldnt be arsed editing the provi block friend bar :P
BTW we aint renters, we got the lease hold. But i heard you guys are AAA/Atlas renters hows that going for ya ? Finally... if you want to do the whole "zomg you aint lived in provi so you dont know the blah blah blah" please dont, i dont want to have to beat you with a stick and make you my slave again.
Kthxbai PS We love UK, least you guys know when to turn turkey. PSS your fiction skills are quite good, you might want to consider leaving Eve and writing books on umm eve ? lol
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Xennith
Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.10.24 20:46:00 -
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Any chance that you would give your version of the facts instead of a load of smacktalk? I see lots of abuse, but im not seeing why Wotlankor is wrong. |
Zayreth Nightstalker
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Posted - 2009.10.24 20:58:00 -
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Well youll find that it was a "humerous" post if it was smack it would have a very different attitude to the post, Please learn the difference
As for why he is wrong, 5 towers in CBL Since when? i would LOVE to have a addition 5 towers in it i dont know about Hell if you can confirm that statement as gospal ill give you a cookie.
Regards always go out to CVA and there is no "friction" that you speak of. i personally think the job they have done of keeping the pirates and vagabonds out of Providence is sterling and as one if not the oldest space holders in eve, they are well respected by friends and enemies alike. Credit where credit is due. Sylph as a "broken alliance" If that was fact then why is it they were able to chase you guys off not so long ago on your "epic" Bomber raid of AVIL ? think the damage lasted 2 hours lol.
As for Dark and MAD they had Sov before any of the "Other" alliances moved in.
Anyother part of his initial statement you want me to pick apart ? Oh wait yea Goonies.....Yea we are allies of them and they gave us the Uber pew pew. Honest.
But ill give you one thing. You guys are good at grabbing at straws and totally getting it wrong.
But to make life easier for you CIA the "coalition" we are in is every other alliance in the game other then you. That help ?
Kthxbai
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Wotlankor
Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.10.24 21:07:00 -
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Originally by: Zayreth Nightstalker Regards always go out to CVA and there is no "friction" that you speak of.
Then you are deluded.
Originally by: Zayreth Nightstalker I personally think the job they have done of keeping the pirates and vagabonds out of Providence is sterling and as one if not the oldest space holders in eve, they are well respected by friends and enemies alike. Credit where credit is due.
Where does this rambling come from? You think I/we dont respect CVA?
Originally by: Zayreth Nightstalker Sylph as a "broken alliance" If that was fact then why is it they were able to chase you guys off not so long ago on your "epic" Bomber raid of AVIL ? think the damage lasted 2 hours lol.
It was just that. Bombers... vs frigs and crusier they have no business.
Originally by: Zayreth Nightstalker As for Dark and MAD they had Sov before any of the "Other" alliances moved in.
OK...
Originally by: Zayreth Nightstalker
Anyother part of his initial statement you want me to pick apart ? Oh wait yea Goonies.....Yea we are allies of them and they gave us the Uber pew pew. Honest.
No, Goons dont care about you, but some of your leadership think they may do.
Originally by: Zayreth Nightstalker But ill give you one thing. You guys are good at grabbing at straws and totally getting it wrong.
Quite an emotional response for someone who sees someone else grasping at straws...
Fly safe.
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Xennith
Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.10.24 21:08:00 -
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Im not entirely sure what to make of your post, I've been planetside for the last few weeks and so Im a little unsure of whats happening. It would appear from this thread that Sylph have sold off some of their space (despite being a powerhouse of military force) to some other alliances of which you seem to be a diplomat of some description? |
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Wotlankor
Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.10.24 21:13:00 -
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Originally by: Xennith Im not entirely sure what to make of your post, I've been planetside for the last few weeks and so Im a little unsure of whats happening. It would appear from this thread that Sylph have sold off some of their space (despite being a powerhouse of military force) to some other alliances of which you seem to be a diplomat of some description?
Nope, they did not sell it. Sylph gained nothing. They got told by CVA how this was being resolved. Ie take this and that tower down and this and that will move in. And if he is a diplomat of sorts then "tensions" will not even begin to describe how CVA eventually will feel towards them.
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Chooch Chooch
Chooch Inc. Twilight Federation
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Posted - 2009.10.24 22:29:00 -
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I must admit i kind of feel flattered. I am flattered that someone like little old me coming back into the area with some new and some old faces could cause such a disruption to the warriors of Ushra'Khan.
I will clear up some things for ya here if you want more information have your diplos contact our diplos and we will be happy to discuss whatever you like. Sylph did not rent the space, sell the space, or whatever you may want to call it for the space. The reasons of there leadership for this is basically there decisions. As for whether CVA told them to do it you can believe what you want but CVA as far as I know were not aware we were coming in. Hence the whole NBSI/NRDS mis-understanding. I know it makes better propaganda to say the slavers are pulling the strings hence this is why we do what what we do. So if it makes you feel better no matter to me what you think or say to the public. Whether Sylphs decisions was promp[ted by CVA again no matter to me we do not answer to CVA nor do we keep a presence in the CVA diplo channels. So really could care less abot that.
So you all can speculate what you want and say what you want we are not going to clarify any of it here simply because iot makes good read while we wait for towers to online, and great chat internally as to how you all are trying to figure out what is happening and are uncovering plots that really i wish i thought of myself. If I had then I might actually have won eve by now.
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Zayreth Nightstalker
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Posted - 2009.10.24 23:16:00 -
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Respect to the chooch. Yea anyway lol as for me being a Diplo sadly im not just another fella in space flyin for the giggles.
previous post not emotional, Sarcastic, you need to get language up to level 5. i think Amarr Acadamy has a nice skill set you can purchase.
But how about you guys instead clarify your stance on your home system - Rented or have Atlas/AAA taken pity on you ? How about you also clarify your alarming regularity of Cloaking and hiding all day? Or Why you run like a Chicken on Crack every time you face a even sized fleet ?
Im sure if you get with our Diplo's you can all discuss your "issues" with slavery, i even know a good psychiatrist on New Caldari, works wonders.
replies on a postcard to Zay
Kthxbai
PS All replies will be fed to the slaves as gruel.
Fly Safe.
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Xennith
Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.10.24 23:46:00 -
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Edited by: Xennith on 24/10/2009 23:46:41 So you've switched from calling us renters to asking if we're renters, well done. The position has been clarified a thousand times, but its still something that people like to attack us with, we have not, and will not pay any rent to anyone. Im sorry if thats not clear enough to the hard of thinking.
As for the cloaking and hiding whenever an equal sized fleet appears, im interested, could you perhaps give dates and times? Its one of the few things that most of our enemies respect us for, that we will always fight if there is one to be had. Perhaps you have a different definition of "equal sized", neglected to include your allies, or are just plain talking rubbish? Actually, come to think of it, who the hell are you? Are you a Sylphie? You certainly sound like one with all your talk of cloaking and hiding. |
Xennith
Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.10.24 23:51:00 -
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Originally by: Chooch Chooch I must admit i kind of feel flattered. I am flattered that someone like little old me coming back into the area with some new and some old faces could cause such a disruption to the warriors of Ushra'Khan.
I wouldnt be too flattered that sov changing hands in a large portion of sylph's space has generated an entire thread.
Quote: As for whether CVA told them to do it you can believe what you want but CVA as far as I know were not aware we were coming in.
Now chooch, you cant expect anyone to believe that, CVA would not sit idly by and watch their allies lose space to unknowns without doing anything, especially when that space is so close to their own. Dont make the mistake of thinking that we're idiots. |
Melodee619
Skyforger Sylph Alliance
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Posted - 2009.10.25 01:28:00 -
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Darn i wanted to be the one that said "First!"
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Chooch Chooch
Chooch Inc. Twilight Federation
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Posted - 2009.10.25 01:44:00 -
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Originally by: Xennith Now chooch, you cant expect anyone to believe that, CVA would not sit idly by and watch their allies lose space to unknowns without doing anything, especially when that space is so close to their own. Dont make the mistake of thinking that we're idiots.[/quote
OK now Zenith I believe it is my turn to ask who you are. How long have you been with UK and what makes you think that I am unknown to CVA or the area?
Now I am not about to call anyone an Idiot. But I do believe you may want to read the Idiots Guide to forum posting. Especially when you do not know any of the facts or the players you are dealing with.
Oh and if you realy want to know what is happening yes I did speak with one of your diplomats after we came out here. I answered her questions she answered mine and our standings were set accordingly. So maybe you should check with them.
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Stratio
Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.10.25 04:04:00 -
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Edited by: Stratio on 25/10/2009 04:05:25
Originally by: Dinaahk Elam Oh I forgot you dont pay rent
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Volkier Neigh
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Posted - 2009.10.25 06:12:00 -
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Edited by: Volkier Neigh on 25/10/2009 06:12:30 This is seriously epic. I mean it's one thing to make wild guesses and accusations based on poor intel. It's another thing (since we are talking with UK here who try and get wrecking hits in turrets firing smacktalk) to try and stir tentions of your enemies - which I admit, can be an effective strategy, and UK is reasonably good at doing due to their spy infestation and whatnot.
But when the leaders of both of the alliances, that according to the OP are supposed to be disputing space, come into the made thread, laugh at the dramatised version, tell you that it isn't really true and that you need to work on your facts, and you STILL insist that they "prove it"... That is just... epic. I can't come up with any other word to fit it.
And to top it all, why are you surprised when you ask for sensitive diplomatic relations info of your enemies, nobody gives you a very detailed or clear answer? I mean sure, it's worth a go and all that, but there's no reason to get ****y and demand facts when it doesn't go the way you hoped it would. Besides, it's common courtesy, you could at least start by telling us what your recent negotiations yielded, with what allies, and what the conditions and outcome(s) are for both sides, then maybe chooch and klebz would be kind enough to return the favour ::)
And now, to try and understand the fun in this, let me try to make some wild accusations of my own: 1) Wotlankor seems to have gotten the intel in a very biased one sided manner in very poor condition, leaving me to believe it must be from one of their spies in Sylph - 2) Which leaves me to believe that Wotlankor either is, or is in very close relations to the said spy, since he seemed to be rather affected and overly concerned about the issue of whether Sylph was loosing out on their 'money making slave driving operations', and the said spy is clearly affected - 3) Which in turn allows me to conclude that Wotlankor will likely be affected by the outcome due to the level of involvement felt in the OP and the subsequent posts, along with the general "need to try and make blues shoot blues" attitude - 4) Which can only mean that Wotlankor is making a profit off the said spy, since money is one of the main issues here apparently according to UK - 5) Which means that Wotlankor *gasp* must support and fund slavery! Holy crap - UK, you guys need to do something about this injustice within your ranks! 6) Not only that, but UK is also stipulating that apparently all of proviblock is on the verge of allying with goonswarm and co. to attack AAA from the northern catch area. Guys, I believe UK is trying to provoke a 'good hostile neighbour' relationship that AAA currently holds with the former mentioned, to try and thin out their forces in order to take advantage in their grand conspiring plans! I'm only guessing, but you may want to investigate this and all that...
So how'd I do? Wait, I don't need to ask - I refuse to accept that anything I've said above is incorrect unless I can haz PROOF, because this sure is what looks like is happening to me.
On that note, I must comment that UK has definitely evolved their regular patrol-fleets, having them doubled in numbers since I've been away for a few months, and having several pilots on call to assist in much shorter jump ranges than before. Good to see that there is a greater chance for a few good fights now ::)
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Kazzzi
Amarr Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.10.25 07:51:00 -
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More spy paranoia. With the way Sylph's numbers continue to drop, soon their alliance will consist solely of spies.
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