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edeity
Holy Amarrian Battlemonk
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Posted - 2009.10.22 16:55:00 -
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This is a sad day indeed, but the sin of arrogance cannot be denied.
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Wotlankor
Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.10.22 17:19:00 -
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Civil war ?
My my...
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SeerinDarkness
Minmatar An Tir Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.10.22 17:44:00 -
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Edited by: SeerinDarkness on 22/10/2009 17:50:17
The Sin of arrogance is your own Edeity, you have some kind of hypocritic balls to say that and i call Bull! on it. AMONK was Removed from LF Alliance BY our EXECUTOR for:
1 Unvarnished acts of piracy agianst blue and neutral standings people 2 Failing to pay alliance dues 3 Hostile action twords own alliance members
All attempts by alliance leadership to resolve a ,originaly, internal alliance issue between corps led to this and their subsuquent Removal from LF Alliance and their being added to Providence KOS list. Even their grace period to remove their assets has been totally marred by repeted attacks on Providence Citizens by certian AMONK members. AMONK Have no respect for any alliance leadership what so ever and feel that they can do whatever they please by being stubborn hypacritical bastard infidels twords their own political background. Why the Amarrian theocratic leadership have not convened to remove this festering sore on the face of their own beliefs is troubeling. AMONK are hereby awarded the 0/ of the Month award for strokeing it so mutch in public. SeerinDarkness/LF Alliance: Command Staff /An Tir: Ceo
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2009.10.22 19:30:00 -
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Edited by: Rodj Blake on 22/10/2009 19:30:52
Given the earlier allegations of Sani Sabik rituals taking place amongst these "Amarrian Battlemonks", I can't say that I'm entirely surprised by this turn of events.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Spyra Gryra
Cruoris Seraphim Exalted.
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Posted - 2009.10.22 19:37:00 -
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These "Battlemonks" are evil. CVA will cleanse you, you filthy scum.
My corp and alliance are the very best pvpers in the entire history of video games. |
Konoch
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2009.10.22 19:38:00 -
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This officially labels providence in my eyes a dangerous zone. As a new pilot i thought heading out there to make some cash might be a good move. But As it is increasingly clear that the forces there can not and are not wiling to do what it takes to remove threats from that area of space i will consider it as i consider the rest of null sec. Its a shame really.
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Jakiin
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Posted - 2009.10.22 20:15:00 -
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Originally by: Konoch This officially labels providence in my eyes a dangerous zone. As a new pilot i thought heading out there to make some cash might be a good move. But As it is increasingly clear that the forces there can not and are not wiling to do what it takes to remove threats from that area of space i will consider it as i consider the rest of null sec. Its a shame really.
A single corporation within a single of the Holder alliances does not represent the majority of Providence. It is inevitable that once in awhile a group of players will decide to try to break the system. I'm not sure what you mean by the Provi Bloc being unable and unwilling to remove threats. The threat was removed, after all. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Jakiin Holder Heir of the Kingdom 'Pacifist Reclaimer' |
Konoch
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2009.10.22 20:22:00 -
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If i go by what i see on the forums you have two full scale wars going on on two seperate fronts. Now this.
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Rahnaar
Amarr Epitoth Guard Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2009.10.22 20:49:00 -
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Originally by: Konoch This officially labels providence in my eyes a dangerous zone. As a new pilot i thought heading out there to make some cash might be a good move. But As it is increasingly clear that the forces there can not and are not wiling to do what it takes to remove threats from that area of space i will consider it as i consider the rest of null sec. Its a shame really.
It is fear that guides you and there is no shame in that since you are in fact of lesser birth. It is the ability to overcome that fear which will allow one to rise to greatness. The opportunity to do so is yours to squander.
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Konoch
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2009.10.22 20:54:00 -
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You got real balls trying to accuse me of that. Clean up your cargo bay before you start firing off your pretty light beams at my hull. I work on risk versus reward. The Risk of the Providence area for me has risen to the point it is no longer worth the potential reward while i remain with the State War Academy.
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SeerinDarkness
Minmatar An Tir Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.10.22 20:55:00 -
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2 full scale wars?.....yes we get hostiles raiding fairly frequently...dunno what u mean about wars. Darwin works hard around here, if you dont pay attiention u can be ganked. Seer
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Wotlankor
Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.10.22 20:58:00 -
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Originally by: SeerinDarkness 2 full scale wars?.....yes we get hostiles raiding fairly frequently...dunno what u mean about wars. Darwin works hard around here, if you dont pay attiention u can be ganked. Seer
Not sure who this pilot Darwin is (propably flies a vaga) but I assume he is U'K friendly as we work our butt off to keep Providence "entertaining" with frequent raids.
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Aria Jenneth
Caldari Ghost Festival Naraka.
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Posted - 2009.10.22 22:06:00 -
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Edited by: Aria Jenneth on 22/10/2009 22:06:57 edeity:
. . . good luck?
Konoch:
The "war on multiple fronts" thing is more or less a permanent state of affairs, as far as I can tell.
Speaking for myself, I'm not sure whether I want to see them fall or not; on one hand, they shoot at me and mine and are never going to be working with Curse, or probably with any associates of the Cartel. On the other, I don't really have anything much against the Amarr, at least so long as they have the Matari and Gallente to keep them occupied.
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edeity
Holy Amarrian Battlemonk
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Posted - 2009.10.22 22:16:00 -
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All debts will be paid. This is not about petty finance.
There is a lesson here for those, like I once were, are inspired by the preaching of virtue by CVA. How quick they turn, how little regard they have for months of effort and billions in isk spent to be a loyal servant.
LFA has made themselves irrelevant, as they clearly offer no value to their members for advocacy with CVA. It's cute you think your words carry weight Seeringdarkness but the reality is you are as irrelevant to CVA as I am.
The only power here exerted is that of a tyrant that preaches virtue. Change comes soon. True servants of Amarr will have new strength. I look forward to working to overthrow tyranny that is now a clear threat the true faith.
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Friek
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Posted - 2009.10.22 22:50:00 -
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It is a pleasant site to see one of the most extreme ex loyalist groups of the CVA wake up. I hope that soon they all wake up realize that CVA make promises that are not true, that Sylph -7- and Steel shoot neutrals for no reason, and that providence is a false promise to the people who reside there.
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2009.10.23 10:05:00 -
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I really liked 'they are evil' part
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Stratio
Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.10.23 10:47:00 -
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Edited by: Stratio on 23/10/2009 10:50:22
Originally by: Konoch This officially labels providence in my eyes a dangerous zone. As a new pilot i thought heading out there to make some cash might be a good move. But As it is increasingly clear that the forces there can not and are not wiling to do what it takes to remove threats from that area of space i will consider it as i consider the rest of null sec. Its a shame really.
Please be aware that many groups, The Ushra'Khan included, are continuing to make Providence as un-safe as possible. My advice to neutrals is to stay away.
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For Tribe and Honour! |
Grr
Amarr Epitoth Guard Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2009.10.23 12:23:00 -
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Originally by: Stratio
Please be aware that many groups, The Ushra'Khan included, are continuing to make Providence as un-safe as possible. My advice to neutrals is to stay away.
Unfortunately for you and your little band of terrorists you call an alliance, you failed.
Providence is one of the safest null sec regions in new eden and neutrals continue to fly free here.
edeity I am very disappointed we could not work things out and you came straight to the summit rather than speaking to me first. You are perhaps not the man I thought you were.
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Alica Wildfire
Minmatar Federal Investigations Agency
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Posted - 2009.10.23 13:39:00 -
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Edited by: Alica Wildfire on 23/10/2009 13:39:43 A very entertained Alica is hanging relaxed in a too big FIA ceo leather chair and follows interested the conversation. She flipps a hot potatoe chip into the air and catches it with her mouth. Then slurps with a straw from a red plastic mug with icy milkshake. She sprawls into the leather, highly entertained. While munching the chips she asks:
So this Darwin pilot is around there, yes? Go for it! What I ask myself...
She takes another slurp.
Sorry... What I ask myself is, are those Battlemonks maybe a new faction of the infamous Bloodraiders that were hiding in the shadows of the Amarr Empire just to regroup after their epic defeat some time ago? Will they now take over the CVA space and enforce their claim on that and make it their new home? Are they back to enforce their view and style of Amarrian religious wane and rituals?
That would be interesting. -- FREEDOM, PUNK & AUTOCANNONS
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Spyra Gryra
Cruoris Seraphim Exalted.
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Posted - 2009.10.23 20:06:00 -
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Originally by: Diana Kim I really liked 'they are evil' part
It was my favorite bit too. Some say these "Battlemonks" are involved in sucking the life out of babies and dressing up as Armageddons and Megathrons. It's a disgrace!
My corp and alliance are the very best pvpers in the entire history of video games. |
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Dunn Idaho
Caldari The Maverick Navy Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.10.23 20:18:00 -
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The Maverick Navy supports you fight against CVA.
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Stratio
Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.10.24 00:00:00 -
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Originally by: Grr
Originally by: Stratio
Please be aware that many groups, The Ushra'Khan included, are continuing to make Providence as un-safe as possible. My advice to neutrals is to stay away.
Unfortunately for you and your little band of terrorists you call an alliance, you failed.
I did say 'as possible' and being such a young pilot my contribution so far has been zero. However your words encourage me to persue my goals efficiently.
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edeity
Holy Amarrian Battlemonk
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Posted - 2009.10.24 02:41:00 -
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Originally by: Grr
edeity I am very disappointed we could not work things out and you came straight to the summit rather than speaking to me first. You are perhaps not the man I thought you were.
I too am deeply disappointed with this turn of events. But I did follow CVA process at all times. The only discussion any from CVA would have with me was the situation was being dealt with. This was the formal response from CVA when approached in diplomatic channel. Next i know im being told we have been removed from alliance and my brothers are being hunted. There was never any discussion with me.
I do still believe I am correct in asserting the sin of arrogance on CVA. There is confusion amongst you of adherence to processes overruling the will of that which we serve. I believe you have lost integrity of your mission. We both still serve Amarr in name, but I now have doubts about the reality of it for your alliance.
This brotherhood was formed directly from inspiration of the good that CVA did. We had many futures open to us, and would genuinely have been amongst your most ardent supporters.
The betrayal by the Holders will not be forgiven. I personally was promised safe departure from Providence by a holder diplomat, and then promptly podded twice. We have now formally committed our lot with the practices of the Sani Sabik. This was not necessarily our path, indeed it was but a passing curiosity at times, but it has become clear it is the one that is needed - what will bring us closer to truth.
As I opened this thread, a sad day indeed, and a result of arrogance. The sin is yours, and I do indeed weep for the loss of hope this has brought.
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Stratio
Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.10.24 05:57:00 -
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Originally by: edeity I personally was promised safe departure from Providence by a holder diplomat, and then promptly podded twice.
From what Poreuomai had told me, I find this surprising to hear. _____________________
For Tribe and Honour! |
Alica Wildfire
Minmatar Federal Investigations Agency
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Posted - 2009.10.24 12:13:00 -
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Alica has now a big bowl of popcorn between her legs and munches them.
So... she blurts between two popcorns that she snips in the air and catches with her mouth. Are you going to use the infamous Bloodraider vessels now or do you prefer the lame way to fly the original Amarr vessels or the "inferior" Matar ones like I can see too often? By people who claim to have the most superior weapons of New Eden, be the superior race and call everyone not Amarrian "lesser". And then take our autocannons and fix them on Amarr vessels or fly Rifters, Ruptures and all other kind of our technology.
Don't take me wrong, I have nothing to say against the fact that Amarr leave their money in our economy by buying our stuff. Cause I really think they are better than anything the Empire can give you. But for a loyalist who claims to be superior in everything this is sounding for me like big hypocritical fedo excrement.
And when you really want to follow the Bloodraider path that means you will fly the Bloodraider vessels, no?
She munches some more popcorn and slurps a Quafe.
If you should chose this way, that'll be interesting. This I want to say. Because the attack on energy is the most hurting way for any Amarr vessel that I know. There are no such energy dependent vessel like the Amarrians. And even if those Bloodraider vessels will be difficult to get ..if you are no Bloodraider.. I think they are the most dangerous for any Amarr fleet I know.
But of cause this might be just another of the Bloodraider pretenders that take the name and the horror many Amarrians feel to do piracy.
She nods.
I completly understand this. The psychological warfare on the enemy is an important issue. But if you do this for real that'll be interesting. That will be more than just another nameless pirate gang that is roaming Providence. Even if you not exclusivly fly the Bloodraider vessels -they are just fleet supporters if I understand that right- but if you build up a fleet around the idea of energy warfare... That would really mess up a lot of CVA fleets.
That'll be interesting. It will also be interesting how the loyalists would react to such a thread.
She reaches for another Quafe and sticks her drinking straw into the can. Then she slurps and presses the disconnect button. -- FREEDOM, PUNK & AUTOCANNONS
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edeity
Holy Amarrian Battlemonk
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Posted - 2009.10.24 17:56:00 -
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Oh I dont pretend to be anything so grand as a member of some vast conspiracy. We are not Blood Raiders. Our lot is a simple one, exploring from writings and through practice the ancient religion. That is all. It is but learning and a yearning to find truth that guides us.
Part 1 - The Confusion ======================= The journey has been a simple one, and as on occasion when a brother in my order has shown growth in the virtues of inflicting suffering, my humble story is shared with them so that they may gain what little benefit and insight may be gleaned to better help their own journey.
Increasingly becoming an old man, I now vainly wish to share my story in some last gasp of clinging to the meaninglessness of individuality. Apologies in advance for this lack of discipline.
The wonders of exploring new Eden were indeed beautiful. It was a new opening in the life of an individual. Such vastness, such depth. What became increasingly apparent was the effect of consequence. Decisions did truly change the universe, which in turn changed me.
But the game of life in New Eden is not one player. Others also make decisions, which effect the universe, and in turn effect me. Consequence. Not just of what I do, what decisions I make, but consequence from the decisions of all.
Morality and Ethics, the micro and macro social evolutionary functions are sustained because of exactly this effect of consequence. Actions inform the next who in turn adapts and shifts their decisions partially in response. One still can express will or purpose, but one, to the limits they choose to set upon themselves, is partially controlled by the choices of others.
Venturing deeper into space, outside the protection of CONCORD, and more importantly outside protection of the true Holy Emperor one meets those who decide to act on very short sighted and narrow scales of consequence. One assumes it is because of limits on their capability - possibly due to youthfullness, ignorance, lack of education opportunity, or sheer stupidity. But over time, some become prominent as sufferers of none of these maladies.
Some choose self over good.
This was a shock for one who lived a life in service of good to this point. Open like the proverbial book, desperate to contribute, to help build.
But the deeper one went into the vastness of space, the deeper the depravity of pursuit of self at the expense of contributing good. What was particularly concerning however, was that increasingly it became apparent that this behaviour was being sustained. It did not follow its natural course and extinguish itself like all selfishness should. Like a virus that is so effective at killing its host it no longer has anywhere left to spread.
No, this virus on humanity was being sustained and supported. A political and economic structure, promoted and funded by CONCORD was channelling vast amounts of funds granted on a simple KPI of the destruction of fellow humans. CONCORD was paying the training of generations of killers that have the power to transcend their own death.
When evil actions are divorced from consequence both economic and social, there must occur a rebalancing. A new good must emerge. The old good no longer can serve purpose. In evolution, something can only claim a right to exist where it sustains advantage. And what is occurring now in the depths of space is the most rapid evolution of morality the universe has ever seen.
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Grr
Amarr Epitoth Guard Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2009.10.24 21:34:00 -
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Originally by: edeity It has been brought to my attention that there exists concern about the position of the brotherhood of the Holy Amarrian Battlemonks on heretical religious practice.
The brotherhoods tenemanets of membership are, in order of precedence: #1 Loyalty to the true Emperor/ess of Amarr #2 Fealty to and Defense of most holy Curatores Veritas Alliance, no matter their position on us #3 Loyalty to the brotherhood #4 Loyalty to our Allies
within this we seek to understand the full depths of our religious practices, and to this end there is much research, both academic and active research. We are a young brotherhood, with much to learn. Our spiritual journey has just begun. We look to many sources for inspiration. We recognise that at times we may well be in error, and humbly submit to authoritative and reasoned guidance in matters religious.
On this issue of the Sani Sabik, we categorically state that we are not blood raiders, nor in any way allied to any "covenant" of the Blood Raiders. That is not, nor will be our intent. We are always loyal to the true Amarr.
Our interest in the rituals of blood is both academic but also active. We wish to understand the nature of the most ancient aspects of our faith, and how it is applicable in modern times. Should there be need of inquistion into our practices and their orthodoxy, we will humbly submit to an appropriately authorised inquisitor.
Above all things, we will always remain faithful to the true orthodoxy of Amarr. For this is what we are.
Very careful twisting of truth from an early stage. Suprised I did not see it.
You are clearly not Blood Raiders but at no point you have commited yourself to saying you are not Sani Sabik followers. Bravo.
Can we expect you to honour your "tenemanets of membership" and commit no agression on CVA and by extension it's allies?
I expect not.
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edeity
Holy Amarrian Battlemonk
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Posted - 2009.10.24 21:48:00 -
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Originally by: Grr
Very careful twisting of truth from an early stage. Suprised I did not see it.
You are clearly not Blood Raiders but at no point you have commited yourself to saying you are not Sani Sabik followers. Bravo.
Can we expect you to honour your "tenemanets of membership" and commit no agression on CVA and by extension it's allies?
I expect not.
You are correct in pointing this out. It has saddened me greatly that I have changed this. I should perhaps re-incorporate the brotherhood under a new name, to clearly communicate this change.
I do not know how to express how deeply conflicting it was to make this decision. But you are correct Grr in pointing out this change and inconsistency.
In my defense I can only claim the primacy of tenement #1. It is my firm belief that the arrogance of CVA has become a cancer that know thoroughly infects it to a point where it will become a direct threat to the integrity of the Amarr Empire and more importantly, the true Amarrian faith.
I personally have destroyed 2 CVA ships in the last 12 hours, and we have a new award for our members "Slayer of Saints" which is awarded to those who destroy the vessels of the C.V.A. our path is committed and considered. This is not something occuring in haste.
It still does however sadden me to have to have occured.
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Spyra Gryra
Cruoris Seraphim Exalted.
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Posted - 2009.10.24 22:56:00 -
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Originally by: edeity
Originally by: Grr
Very careful twisting of truth from an early stage. Suprised I did not see it.
You are clearly not Blood Raiders but at no point you have commited yourself to saying you are not Sani Sabik followers. Bravo.
Can we expect you to honour your "tenemanets of membership" and commit no agression on CVA and by extension it's allies?
I expect not.
You are correct in pointing this out. It has saddened me greatly that I have changed this. I should perhaps re-incorporate the brotherhood under a new name, to clearly communicate this change.
I do not know how to express how deeply conflicting it was to make this decision. But you are correct Grr in pointing out this change and inconsistency.
In my defense I can only claim the primacy of tenement #1. It is my firm belief that the arrogance of CVA has become a cancer that know thoroughly infects it to a point where it will become a direct threat to the integrity of the Amarr Empire and more importantly, the true Amarrian faith.
I personally have destroyed 2 CVA ships in the last 12 hours, and we have a new award for our members "Slayer of Saints" which is awarded to those who destroy the vessels of the C.V.A. our path is committed and considered. This is not something occuring in haste.
It still does however sadden me to have to have occured.
Your crocodile tears will not save you. It is you that is the cancer, and I'm sure you will be removed as such. You disgust me.
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edeity
Holy Amarrian Battlemonk
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Posted - 2009.10.25 00:39:00 -
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Save me? I thought it was quite clear I have willfully chosen a path well outside your construct of salvation.
But your point does warrant exploration. So let us engage in debate as best we each are able.
So what would I need saving from? You? What on earth do you think you could do to me? Like you I also transcend death. My time in turn can be traded for resources, and these resources put to service in execution of my will. Again just like you. As an individual we both are quite meaningless. What we have given ourselves to however is where meaning comes into the equation. We have faith.
From this faith we now are able to only transcend death, but time as well. We each believe our thought has meaning beyond this place, this time.
So how can one who transcends space and time be vulnerable? Can they not be stopped?
But they can. In this very power of faith is it's weakness. Your mighty alliance made strong by the faith of thousands has one weakness. And that weakness is interest. Gods die when their followers lose faith, when they no longer believe, when there is nothing but the mindless pursuit of wealth.
You claim I shall be cleansed but do not see your own fate on the horizon. Your believers are losing faith, they lose interest, and are now easily swayed by wealth. You grow weak in the very foundation that made you strong.
Let us see shall we, if you can respond with anything more than bland assertions of emotion. Let us see of you can engage and be interesting, if you are able to inspire faith.
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