Pages: [1] 2 :: one page |
|
Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 1 post(s) |
Mr Xanatos
|
Posted - 2009.10.23 11:17:00 -
[1]
Me and a few friend have tried using a Lvl 5 agent that is on a hi/low sec border to pull hi sec missions without much luck. We have asked for at least 20 missions and not one of them is in hi sec, all are in the agents system or the neighbouring low sec system. There is also a lvl 2/4 agents in systme and we are having the same results with them.
The neighbouring hi sec systems that we want to land the mission in is in a different region, is this the reason the agents wont give us hi sec mission or are we just having a run of bad luck?
|
Tian Nu
|
Posted - 2009.10.23 11:31:00 -
[2]
Edited by: Tian Nu on 23/10/2009 11:31:45 lvl 5 = low sec
i think i seen one (and only) lvl5 in high sec
|
Mr Xanatos
|
Posted - 2009.10.23 11:41:00 -
[3]
Originally by: Tian Nu
lvl 5 = low sec
i think i seen one (and only) lvl5 in high sec
Lvl 5 Agents are all based in low from what I know but they give some of their missions in hi sec if you use an Agent who is on a hi sec/low sec border. I have friends who make a living running hi sec lvl 5's as there are 7 of them who just accept the hi sec missions and reject the rest which results in pretty much as constant stream of hi sec missions. This is what I am aiming for but I think the region thing is catching me out
|
Zarlis
Gallente
|
Posted - 2009.10.23 12:28:00 -
[4]
Kill mission agents don't seem to give missions that cross constellations so as long as the hisec system is in the same constellations as the agents you should get some missions in that system.
I have used this in reverse as i have used an agent in hisec next to a low sec system but never got missions in lo sec as it was in the next constellations
|
adriaans
Amarr Ankaa. Nair Al-Zaurak
|
Posted - 2009.10.23 12:46:00 -
[5]
it has to be in same constallation -sig- Support the introduction of Blaze crystals for Amarr!
Originally by: UMEE if ure another fotm re-roller, then dont pvp. you'll fail.
QFT! |
Mr Xanatos
|
Posted - 2009.10.23 13:06:00 -
[6]
Originally by: adriaans it has to be in same constallation
Just checked and they are different regions and constellations. Dumb luck, loads of time wasted by few of us grinding up standings. Its the only border agent for the NPC we mission for so have to switch to Caldari now
Thanks for the input
LET THE GRIND BEGIN |
Terminus Vindictus
Caldari
|
Posted - 2009.10.23 15:22:00 -
[7]
Originally by: Mr Xanatos ... loads of time wasted by few of us grinding up standings.
If you have a gang, might as well run them in losec. You should be able to fend off most pirate gangs if you're in a gang of your own. Losec L5 missions are more of an issue when running them solo IMO.
Hello, I'm from the Government and I'm here to help. |
goazer
Amarr Dark Amarr Brotherhood
|
Posted - 2009.10.23 16:07:00 -
[8]
Originally by: Tian Nu Edited by: Tian Nu on 23/10/2009 11:31:45 lvl 5 = low sec
i think i seen one (and only) lvl5 in high sec
Wrong, agents are in lowsec, but if the next door system is in highsec, you will get lvl 5 missions to highsec too.
|
Tian Nu
|
Posted - 2009.10.23 21:04:00 -
[9]
Edited by: Tian Nu on 23/10/2009 21:03:59
Originally by: goazer
Originally by: Tian Nu Edited by: Tian Nu on 23/10/2009 11:31:45 lvl 5 = low sec
i think i seen one (and only) lvl5 in high sec
Wrong, agents are in lowsec, but if the next door system is in highsec, you will get lvl 5 missions to highsec too.
As I told I seen only ONE happy to know there is moreā Pls show me agents that will give me most high sec lvl 5 ?
|
|
CCP Dropbear
|
Posted - 2009.10.23 21:20:00 -
[10]
Originally by: goazer
Originally by: Tian Nu Edited by: Tian Nu on 23/10/2009 11:31:45 lvl 5 = low sec
i think i seen one (and only) lvl5 in high sec
Wrong, agents are in lowsec, but if the next door system is in highsec, you will get lvl 5 missions to highsec too.
Don't count on that lasting forever.
|
|
|
Horchan
Gallente
|
Posted - 2009.10.23 21:46:00 -
[11]
Originally by: CCP Dropbear Don't count on that lasting forever.
---
DesuSigs |
Lady Aja
Caldari Interspatial Logistics Rogue Elements.
|
Posted - 2009.10.23 22:39:00 -
[12]
Originally by: CCP Dropbear
Originally by: goazer
Originally by: Tian Nu Edited by: Tian Nu on 23/10/2009 11:31:45 lvl 5 = low sec
i think i seen one (and only) lvl5 in high sec
Wrong, agents are in lowsec, but if the next door system is in highsec, you will get lvl 5 missions to highsec too.
Don't count on that lasting forever.
BAHAHAHA! if you was not reading this right now? what would you be doing instead of reading my sig?
|
Tian Nu
|
Posted - 2009.10.23 22:47:00 -
[13]
Originally by: CCP Dropbear
Originally by: goazer
Originally by: Tian Nu Edited by: Tian Nu on 23/10/2009 11:31:45 lvl 5 = low sec
i think i seen one (and only) lvl5 in high sec
Wrong, agents are in lowsec, but if the next door system is in highsec, you will get lvl 5 missions to highsec too.
Don't count on that lasting forever.
there you go, lvl5 are not suposed to be in high sec.
|
Zach 101
|
Posted - 2009.10.23 23:16:00 -
[14]
Originally by: CCP Dropbear
Originally by: goazer
Originally by: Tian Nu Edited by: Tian Nu on 23/10/2009 11:31:45 lvl 5 = low sec
i think i seen one (and only) lvl5 in high sec
Wrong, agents are in lowsec, but if the next door system is in highsec, you will get lvl 5 missions to highsec too.
Don't count on that lasting forever.
yes all lv 5 agents are in lowsec and can go to highsec the only problem with that is that means no caps but i guess that is only a 'for now'
|
Cadde
Gallente FireworX
|
Posted - 2009.10.23 23:40:00 -
[15]
It doesn't matter if it's a combat agent or a courier/mining agent. It's the type of mission that decides where you get it. (Or how far away it can be) Unfortunately it's one of mine and my brothers little secrets so i can't tell you exactly how it works. All i wanted to say is, it doesn't matter if there's a constellation or even a region border... nuff said!
My opinions belong to me, you can't have them!
|
Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
|
Posted - 2009.10.24 02:29:00 -
[16]
Originally by: CCP Dropbear
Originally by: goazer
Originally by: Tian Nu Edited by: Tian Nu on 23/10/2009 11:31:45 lvl 5 = low sec
i think i seen one (and only) lvl5 in high sec
Wrong, agents are in lowsec, but if the next door system is in highsec, you will get lvl 5 missions to highsec too.
Don't count on that lasting forever.
<3 you
|
Tagami Wasp
Caldari Sarz'na Khumatari Ushra'Khan
|
Posted - 2009.10.24 04:02:00 -
[17]
Originally by: CCP Dropbear
Originally by: goazer
Originally by: Tian Nu Edited by: Tian Nu on 23/10/2009 11:31:45 lvl 5 = low sec
i think i seen one (and only) lvl5 in high sec
Wrong, agents are in lowsec, but if the next door system is in highsec, you will get lvl 5 missions to highsec too.
Don't count on that lasting forever.
Made my day. More meat to the grinder.
|
King Rothgar
Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS
|
Posted - 2009.10.24 04:38:00 -
[18]
mmm, that's good, get those who want to fly lvl5's into the meat grinder. Or is it a desolate wasteland with no one in it? -----------------------------------------------------
|
Qui Shon
|
Posted - 2009.10.24 08:20:00 -
[19]
Edited by: Qui Shon on 24/10/2009 08:20:11
Originally by: CCP Dropbear
Originally by: goazer
Originally by: Tian Nu Edited by: Tian Nu on 23/10/2009 11:31:45 lvl 5 = low sec
i think i seen one (and only) lvl5 in high sec
Wrong, agents are in lowsec, but if the next door system is in highsec, you will get lvl 5 missions to highsec too.
Don't count on that lasting forever.
Populating lowsec by way of luring PvE folks in with a shiny bait, is always going to be a failed proposition, giving scattered and sparse results at best. If you want more then the odd PvE squad to gank for yourself, it's the scanning mechanics you need to change.
|
Venkul Mul
Gallente
|
Posted - 2009.10.24 09:40:00 -
[20]
Originally by: CCP Dropbear
Originally by: goazer
Originally by: Tian Nu Edited by: Tian Nu on 23/10/2009 11:31:45 lvl 5 = low sec
i think i seen one (and only) lvl5 in high sec
Wrong, agents are in lowsec, but if the next door system is in highsec, you will get lvl 5 missions to highsec too.
Don't count on that lasting forever.
Very well, probably it is a thing that you should do, but would CCP care to give a before and after the change report of the number of level 5 mission done?
It would be a interesting statistic.
Even more interesting a statistic of the number of level 5 missions currently done in high sec and low sec, possibly broken for agent or at least race.
|
|
Aingelluss
|
Posted - 2009.10.24 12:03:00 -
[21]
Originally by: CCP Dropbear
Originally by: goazer
Originally by: Tian Nu Edited by: Tian Nu on 23/10/2009 11:31:45 lvl 5 = low sec
i think i seen one (and only) lvl5 in high sec
Wrong, agents are in lowsec, but if the next door system is in highsec, you will get lvl 5 missions to highsec too.
Don't count on that lasting forever.
Hate you really do
|
Carniflex
Fallout Research Fallout Project
|
Posted - 2009.10.24 12:54:00 -
[22]
Originally by: CCP Dropbear
Originally by: goazer
Originally by: Tian Nu Edited by: Tian Nu on 23/10/2009 11:31:45 lvl 5 = low sec
i think i seen one (and only) lvl5 in high sec
Wrong, agents are in lowsec, but if the next door system is in highsec, you will get lvl 5 missions to highsec too.
Don't count on that lasting forever.
If you do that please make it apply in opposite direction also. Ie if you ask mission in hi sec from agent bordering low sec it will not send you to low sec either. Would be only fair if low sec agents will stop sending you to hi sec, right ?
|
Celia Therone
|
Posted - 2009.10.24 13:21:00 -
[23]
Originally by: CCP Dropbear
Originally by: goazer
Originally by: Tian Nu
lvl 5 = low sec
i think i seen one (and only) lvl5 in high sec
Wrong, agents are in lowsec, but if the next door system is in highsec, you will get lvl 5 missions to highsec too.
Don't count on that lasting forever.
God forbid that there'd actually be interesting and challenging PvE in the... PvE environment. That makes no sense whatsoever, please nerf the sandbox immediately to prevent this.
|
Contralto
GCHQ
|
Posted - 2009.10.24 15:30:00 -
[24]
Edited by: Contralto on 24/10/2009 15:30:59 I thought Faction Warfare would be enough to feed lo sec piracy with fresh meat?
If this happens I guess we are going to have to give up lvl V's or adapt! I see Eccm T3's, Tengu tanker, Tengu Damage and Warfare link Loki for the Sig radius bonus in my Crystal ball.
Marauders and RR Domi's will have to be mothballed that's for sure!
|
Suas
Perkone
|
Posted - 2009.10.24 16:07:00 -
[25]
Originally by: Celia Therone
Originally by: CCP Dropbear
Originally by: goazer
Originally by: Tian Nu
lvl 5 = low sec
i think i seen one (and only) lvl5 in high sec
Wrong, agents are in lowsec, but if the next door system is in highsec, you will get lvl 5 missions to highsec too.
Don't count on that lasting forever.
God forbid that there'd actually be interesting and challenging PvE in the... PvE environment. That makes no sense whatsoever, please nerf the sandbox immediately to prevent this.
Oh boy. Cry more. _________________________
HELLO! My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. PREPARE TO DIE! |
King Rothgar
Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS
|
Posted - 2009.10.24 19:02:00 -
[26]
Originally by: Contralto Edited by: Contralto on 24/10/2009 15:30:59 I thought Faction Warfare would be enough to feed lo sec piracy with fresh meat?
If this happens I guess we are going to have to give up lvl V's or adapt! I see Eccm T3's, Tengu tanker, Tengu Damage and Warfare link Loki for the Sig radius bonus in my Crystal ball.
Marauders and RR Domi's will have to be mothballed that's for sure!
I foresee additional posts by those who are so terrified of low sec that they don't take even a look into low sec. For if those people did, they'd find that once more than 2-3 jumps from high sec (not counting fw zones) you can go 10 jumps without seeing a single player. And there are lvl5 agents in that desolate wasteland. You can go there in a shuttle and proclaim yourself king of the system and none will dispute it because no one but you is there to see it. -----------------------------------------------------
|
Ivanna Nuke
Daralux
|
Posted - 2009.10.24 19:16:00 -
[27]
Soon Level 5 missions will require you to have flown 64 jumps into null sec space, and used officer fitted T3 ships to convince the agent that you are worthy.
|
Qui Shon
|
Posted - 2009.10.24 19:50:00 -
[28]
Originally by: King Rothgar I foresee additional posts by those who are so terrified of low sec that they don't take even a look into low sec. For if those people did, they'd find that once more than 2-3 jumps from high sec (not counting fw zones) you can go 10 jumps without seeing a single player. And there are lvl5 agents in that desolate wasteland. You can go there in a shuttle and proclaim yourself king of the system and none will dispute it because no one but you is there to see it.
Yeeeeaaah , nobody but you.... and every single person looking at ded statistics on the map.
If you want more people to gank, and of course you do, this is a failed method. I just wish CCP would realize that.
|
Alvatore DiMarco
Gallente Inquest
|
Posted - 2009.10.24 19:59:00 -
[29]
(TL;DR at bottom for you exceptionally lazy bastards)
Hmmm. I don't understand all the tears. Well, maybe I do. Greedy people who want no risk and all reward, plus not sharing that reward with anyone else.
It's all bull**** though. If you can fly a Lv5 mission you should also be able to gather up a fleet to fly it with, even if the other people in the fleet are just there to deal with PvPers. Even if they're there to help mission, effective PvE fits aren't perfect for PvP but with enough people you should still be able to chase off anyone who wants to start something.
I've never flown a Lv5 mission (never been that interested), much less a lowsec mission (aside from couriers), but I've spent enough time in Eve to know that you don't go anywhere without keeping your eyes open. That's just a basic rule, isn't it? Keep your eye on the overview and keep Local where you can see it easily. Just basic Eve 101 stuff. When you go into a place where people can shoot you, anticipate being shot at (fit your ship accordingly) and if neccessary, take friends/corp members/alliance members/etc with you.
TL;DR: To All Crying L5 Missioners - Either abandon your L5 incomes or HTFU and L2EVE.
|
Mahke
Aeon Of Strife
|
Posted - 2009.10.25 00:04:00 -
[30]
Edited by: Mahke on 25/10/2009 00:05:46
Originally by: King Rothgar
Originally by: Contralto Edited by: Contralto on 24/10/2009 15:30:59 I thought Faction Warfare would be enough to feed lo sec piracy with fresh meat?
If this happens I guess we are going to have to give up lvl V's or adapt! I see Eccm T3's, Tengu tanker, Tengu Damage and Warfare link Loki for the Sig radius bonus in my Crystal ball.
Marauders and RR Domi's will have to be mothballed that's for sure!
I foresee additional posts by those who are so terrified of low sec that they don't take even a look into low sec. For if those people did, they'd find that once more than 2-3 jumps from high sec (not counting fw zones) you can go 10 jumps without seeing a single player. And there are lvl5 agents in that desolate wasteland. You can go there in a shuttle and proclaim yourself king of the system and none will dispute it because no one but you is there to see it.
I have seriously thought about this. The problem is that combine the invest (get sp for a ship that can solo V's), danger, distraction, and most critically, complete standings trashing make lowsec level V's not worth doing for most people, despite being excellent isk/hour.
If you want to see more people doing V's in lowsec, we need more anti-pirate/drone missions and less anti-empire ones.
edit: actually, EVE pve in general would benefit from a (difficult, to make standings still matter ofc) mechanism to recover standings even when they've gone to hell.
|
|
|
|
|
Pages: [1] 2 :: one page |
First page | Previous page | Next page | Last page |