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Large Marg
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.06.11 22:37:00 -
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Would be nice to be able to redo 1 skill once a year and move the SP to where you want them to go. Or pay CCP X amount for each skill you want to redo.
Like the remap. |
KrakizBad
Eve Defence Force Fatal Ascension
726
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Posted - 2012.06.11 22:38:00 -
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No. Next? Incursions still need to be nerfed more. Cut payouts by 50% for all ships worth more than 10m. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
7847
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Posted - 2012.06.11 22:38:00 -
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No, it would be awful, since it would break the game in new and hilarious ways. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
CONCORD spawns: quick enough to save you?
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Vicky Somers
Rusty Anchor
93
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Posted - 2012.06.11 22:40:00 -
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Posting on forums should cost SP. It should cost twice as much if you're posting suggestions by the way. |
Implying Implications
Broski Enterprises
104
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Posted - 2012.06.11 22:45:00 -
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redo your life Minmatar V3 gallery: http://minus.com/mOqXRikn5 |
masternerdguy
Inner Shadow NightSong Directorate
695
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Posted - 2012.06.11 22:45:00 -
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This is idiotic. Things are only impossible until they are not. |
Citsatllort
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.06.11 22:47:00 -
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We should be able to remap all SP once a year -- Or charge $$ for it. It's not going to ruin any game play. |
lanyaie
421
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Posted - 2012.06.11 22:48:00 -
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SP system working as intended next question I dont post often, but when I do i'm probably trolling you Currently offering 100% legit hulkageddon security sponsored by the mittani, send 50m to me and 50m to him |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
7847
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Posted - 2012.06.11 22:49:00 -
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Citsatllort wrote:It's not going to ruin any game play. GǪaside from wiping out a large set of game mechanics; completely screwing over new players; and make everything a grey morass of genericness GÇö all while not solving a single problem. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
CONCORD spawns: quick enough to save you?
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Large Marg
University of Caille Gallente Federation
29
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Posted - 2012.06.11 22:50:00 -
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Citsatllort wrote:We should be able to remap all SP once a year -- Or charge $$ for it. It's not going to ruin any game play.
There you go, that a girl speak up.
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Large Marg
University of Caille Gallente Federation
29
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Posted - 2012.06.11 22:51:00 -
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Vicky Somers wrote:Posting on forums should cost SP. It should cost twice as much if you're posting suggestions by the way.
OH YOU HURT ME..... you posted this when your parents was not lookin huh? |
Large Marg
University of Caille Gallente Federation
29
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Posted - 2012.06.11 22:52:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:This is idiotic.
So you approve then. Nice... |
masternerdguy
Inner Shadow NightSong Directorate
696
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Posted - 2012.06.11 22:53:00 -
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Large Marg wrote:masternerdguy wrote:This is idiotic. So you approve then. Nice...
No. I think you are a troll. Things are only impossible until they are not. |
Herping yourDerp
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
630
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Posted - 2012.06.11 23:01:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:Large Marg wrote:masternerdguy wrote:This is idiotic. So you approve then. Nice... No. I think you are a troll.
can troll claim other troll is a troll |
CATPAIN KIRK
State War Academy Caldari State
71
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Posted - 2012.06.11 23:04:00 -
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Herping yourDerp wrote:masternerdguy wrote:Large Marg wrote:masternerdguy wrote:This is idiotic. So you approve then. Nice... No. I think you are a troll. can troll claim other troll is a troll
Yes - he wloud know best if they'rs anthoner troll. |
KrakizBad
Eve Defence Force Fatal Ascension
727
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Posted - 2012.06.11 23:05:00 -
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CATPAIN KIRK wrote:Herping yourDerp wrote:masternerdguy wrote:Large Marg wrote:masternerdguy wrote:This is idiotic. So you approve then. Nice... No. I think you are a troll. can troll claim other troll is a troll Yes - he wloud know best if they'rs anthoner troll. Your name makes more sense now. Incursions still need to be nerfed more. Cut payouts by 50% for all ships worth more than 10m. |
Large Marg
University of Caille Gallente Federation
30
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Posted - 2012.06.11 23:05:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:Large Marg wrote:masternerdguy wrote:This is idiotic. So you approve then. Nice... No. I think you are a troll.
At least I didn't do something stupid like post about Tengugeddon. Its not even creative in the least.
These forums are much like WoW. Never see replies like I don't think it will work cause of this and that. Just a bunch looses who never leave home looking for any opportunity to slam on someone on the forums. Truly sad lot of people. Most not all. |
David Cedarbridge
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
222
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Posted - 2012.06.11 23:10:00 -
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I'm not even sure if this suggestion is intentionally foolish or not, but hey, I'll bite.
Your suggestion to be able to "pay ccp" for such a reset of SP would 1) Fall into the realm of "pay to win" by influencing gameplay directly through RL cash injection. If I need to explain to you why this is bad and why CCP has already stated that they will never do this (INCARNA) then this thread is already over.) 2) Spawn a steady stream of identical players with nearly or entirely cookiecutter skill trees and points collections. 3) Make attribute planning and other sorts of long term skill planning pointless since you could just set your skill training to a single attribute pairing forever and then just "reset" those SP elsewhere. You could theorietically daisychain yourself through the skill trees. |
masternerdguy
Inner Shadow NightSong Directorate
696
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Posted - 2012.06.11 23:11:00 -
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Large Marg wrote:masternerdguy wrote:Large Marg wrote:masternerdguy wrote:This is idiotic. So you approve then. Nice... No. I think you are a troll. At least I didn't do something stupid like post about Tengugeddon. Its not even creative in the least. These forums are much like WoW. Never see replies like I don't think it will work cause of this and that. Just a bunch looses who never leave home looking for any opportunity to slam on someone on the forums. Truly sad lot of people. Most not all.
I never leave my home?
How did I get downtown this morning? Must've been dreaming again. Things are only impossible until they are not. |
David Cedarbridge
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
222
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Posted - 2012.06.11 23:11:00 -
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Large Marg wrote:Just a bunch looses who never leave home looking for any opportunity to slam on someone on the forums. Truly sad lot of people. Most not all. Clearly your posting is an example that all in this thread should follow. |
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Sarah Schneider
PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore
731
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Posted - 2012.06.11 23:14:00 -
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Pay2win idea. No. "Eve isnGÇÖt some welcoming online utopia: itGÇÖs cut-throat, cruel, atavistic despite the futuristic setting. Give people a sandbox, and theyGÇÖll throw the sand in a rivalGÇÖs eyes before kicking them in the shins and destroying their sandcastle." -Keza MacDonald, IGN. |
AFK Hauler
State War Academy
378
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Posted - 2012.06.11 23:15:00 -
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This idea is shot down daily in suggestions. What makes you think it would fair better in GD? |
ModeratedToSilence
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
110
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Posted - 2012.06.11 23:22:00 -
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Large Marg wrote:
At least I didn't do something stupid like post about Tengugeddon. Its not even creative in the least.
These forums are much like WoW. Never see replies like I don't think it will work cause of this and that. Just a bunch looses who never leave home looking for any opportunity to slam on someone on the forums. Truly sad lot of people. Most not all.
Tippia wrote:No, it would be awful, since it would break the game in new and hilarious ways.
Your idea is silly and would ruin the game by removing any sense of balance. This has been pointed out by Tippia. You have chosen to ignore that post. People reading this thread can safely presume you: 1. do not know how eve really works beyond your little I want this skill now bubble. 2. lack competent reading comprehension
Please don't complain about being treated as such. |
Jimmy Gunsmythe
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.06.11 23:25:00 -
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There was a time that I supported a ONE TIME SP remap. However, since I sold my main, bought another toon and created this one, it really has no more bearing on me and thus, I am neutral about it. I will say that Neural Remaps should also be considered as removing both consequence and smoothing out the learning curve somewhat. Like SP, attributes should be committed once the character is made. But then again, since they dumbed down the creation process, I guess their isn't too much of a choice there now, is there? A good predator knows how to live in balance with his prey, lest he follow them into oblivion. |
Cutter Isaacson
Peace N Quiet
420
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Posted - 2012.06.12 00:44:00 -
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Large Marg wrote:masternerdguy wrote:Large Marg wrote:masternerdguy wrote:This is idiotic. So you approve then. Nice... No. I think you are a troll. At least I didn't do something stupid like post about Tengugeddon. Its not even creative in the least. These forums are much like WoW. Never see replies like I don't think it will work cause of this and that. Just a bunch looses who never leave home looking for any opportunity to slam on someone on the forums. Truly sad lot of people. Most not all.
The reason your post was subjected to much deserved derision is because you made a stupid thread about a stupid subject that has been discussed, dismissed, re-discussed, re-hashed and subsequently filed under "moronic idea with no benefits at all" a long time ago.
Also, shut up.
Numbers of terminally stupid people seem to be on the increase, I suggest we have a real life Stupidageddon to rectify this issue. |
Christopher Dulson
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
5
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Posted - 2012.06.12 01:18:00 -
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This is such a good idea.
I can only hope that hilmar is reading this |
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ISD Stensson
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
1
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Posted - 2012.06.12 01:45:00 -
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Thread moved from "EVE General Discussion" to "Features & Ideas Discussion" forum.
Please keep in mind rules about being respectful of others and also do not use pyramid quoting. Thank you. ISD Stensson Ensign Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Large Marg
University of Caille Gallente Federation
30
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Posted - 2012.06.12 01:52:00 -
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So all you hard core seasoned head cases think this will ruin Eve? You must be on some high grade drugs to think this.
Let's see how best to explain it to you.
They gave back the SP from all the learning skills. I got back 2.3mil SP. something like that and it was from like 5 skills, not just 1.I spent my points in something I needed and Eve has not been destroyed. I'm at a total loss for words. My spending the 2.3mil SP should by what you tell me destabilized the whole game. I am disappointed now.
Remapping skill you get once a year and Eve is still moving along and not on fire or been pulled into a Black Hole. Very strange indeed.
Yet you tell me getting the ability once a year to skill points from 1 skill let say mining will tear the very fabrice of space and time killing Eve?
You kids are amusing I will give you that, but WOW.. ROFLMAO....
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Eli Green
The Arrow Project CORE.
4
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Posted - 2012.06.12 02:10:00 -
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>Implying that mining isn't a necessary part of EVE
Also, search forums b4 posting.
Move along. |
David Cedarbridge
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
223
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Posted - 2012.06.12 03:17:00 -
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Large Marg wrote:So all you hard core seasoned head cases think this will ruin Eve? You must be on some high grade drugs to think this.
Let's see how best to explain it to you.
They gave back the SP from all the learning skills. I got back 2.3mil SP. something like that and it was from like 5 skills, not just 1.I spent my points in something I needed and Eve has not been destroyed. I'm at a total loss for words. My spending the 2.3mil SP should by what you tell me destabilized the whole game. I am disappointed now.
Remapping skill you get once a year and Eve is still moving along and not on fire or been pulled into a Black Hole. Very strange indeed.
Yet you tell me getting the ability once a year to skill points from 1 skill let say mining will tear the very fabrice of space and time killing Eve?
You kids are amusing I will give you that, but WOW.. ROFLMAO....
I'm going to do you a favor here. After I do you will probably leap at the new chance to fling poo around or whatever it is that you do in place of being a useful and grown up person. That's your deal.
When offering a suggestion, one generally has a set of burdens that must first be met in order for that suggestion to be considered better than the status quo.
1) You must establish a need for your suggested action. If I do not have a problem, I will certainly not need your solution. In this case, you have never shown a reason that the game needs an ability to randomly remap skill points. Therefore, with this step alone unmet, I have no reason to consider needing your idea to do so.
2) You must establish a reason that the system in place now (stat remaps on long timers and SP only returned in extreme cases) is inferior to your suggestion. Since you provide no reason to suggest that these are not adequate, I also have no reason to consider them as such and again, I find no reason why I would need your suggestion to fix something that is apparently fine and dandy.
In addition to all of this I would also consider that insulting everyone in the thread that tells you that this idea has been considered before and previously rejected for a,b.c...zz reasons is generally a poor reaction if your goal was to convince other people to support the idea now.
Hope this all helps.
Edit: Also, making the second post in your own thread on an alt praising the idea with an empty "You go girl" is beyond unhelpful. Thought I'd tack that on here. Don't do that. |
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