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Maximum Entropy
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.06.12 02:04:00 -
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Someone please tell me any other MMO that makes you spend an HOUR just looting the things you've killed.
As if a popup loot window is SO difficult to program after you shoot something. It may come as a shock to CCP, or Icelanders in general, but spending 10 minutes slowboating to a wreck is not exactly engaging or fun. And having to alt-tab out to the internet every 5 minutes so you don't fall asleep is not very immersive.
Now name a successful MMO that doesn't let you customize the look of your avatar. Oh right, there isn't one. Because people like to customize how they look in a game. (I'm talking about ships)
I've played on and off for 5 years and these 2 things have really grinded my gears. CCP thinks the rules don't apply to them. Well, you like to brag about how everything on EVE is on one server... that's because hardly anyone wants to play your game. And those who do aren't rewarded for actually playing and doing things in the game, because it's all TIME based. (ROFL what a joke)
(You make more money that way.)
If you actually made your gave attractive to the general population instead of a small niche audience, you wouldn't have to have micro transactions because people would gladly pay a subscription. |
baltec1
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Posted - 2012.06.12 02:06:00 -
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Use a tractor beam? |
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings Damu'Khonde
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Posted - 2012.06.12 02:06:00 -
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Ship toasting in a bad thread with a bad OP. Rifterlings - Small gang lowsec combat corp specializing in frigates and cruisers (all races, not just Rifters!). US Timezone veterans and newbies alike are welcome to join. Come chat in the "we fly rifters" in-game channel. Free fitted frigates for members! |
Possum's Awesome
Foxtrot Uniform Charlie Kilo
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Posted - 2012.06.12 02:10:00 -
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Art thou vext brother?
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Reicine Ceer
Rodents of Unusual Size The Rat Race
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Posted - 2012.06.12 02:11:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Use a tractor beam?
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Maximum Entropy
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.06.12 02:12:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Use a tractor beam?
LOL why should I have to? Seriously. 2500 meters to loot something... why not 10km. Why not 50km? Why is the arbitrary number so small? What were they trying to achieve? Just make things take more time... FOR WHAT?
Besides, if I want a tractor beam, I'd have to sacrifice being able to actually shoot things... JUST TO BE ABLE TO LOOT THEM? Are you insane? Who came up with these ideas? |
Darth Gustav
Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension
789
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Posted - 2012.06.12 02:14:00 -
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Maximum Entropy wrote:baltec1 wrote:Use a tractor beam? LOL why should I have to? Seriously. 2500 meters to loot something... why not 10km. Why not 50km? Why is the arbitrary number so small? What were they trying to achieve? Just make things take more time... FOR WHAT? Besides, if I want a tractor beam, I'd have to sacrifice being able to actually shoot things... JUST TO BE ABLE TO LOOT THEM? Are you insane? Who came up with these ideas? I bet your sci-fi sandbox MMO will be wildly successful.
Try to remember us little folks. He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom |
Serena Serene
University of Caille Gallente Federation
339
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Posted - 2012.06.12 02:14:00 -
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You don't have to loot. Looting taking time is the reason there is a synergy between mission runners who are too lazy for that and newer characters (or older ones if they feel like it) who clean up after them. You don't have to loot to get money. If you want to loot, it takes time.
You can fly around in a multitude of ships. Sure it would be nice if you could paint them or something like that, but you say this as if you're stuck with one and the same appearance for the whole game xD
About the one server thing: Eve still has more players online on the one server at the same time as some other MMOs have distributed over 5, 6 or 10 servers.
Skills are time based. Money making is smartness-based. You also make more money if you spend more time doing so. Remember your complaining about looting taking time, for example?
A game doesn't have to cater to a wide audience to be successful. And those who enjoy the niche this game fits in don't want it to either, I think. |
MotherMoon
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2012.06.12 02:20:00 -
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Serena Serene wrote:You don't have to loot. Looting taking time is the reason there is a synergy between mission runners who are too lazy for that and newer characters (or older ones if they feel like it) who clean up after them. You don't have to loot to get money. If you want to loot, it takes time.
You can fly around in a multitude of ships. Sure it would be nice if you could paint them or something like that, but you say this as if you're stuck with one and the same appearance for the whole game xD
About the one server thing: Eve still has more players online on the one server at the same time as some other MMOs have distributed over 5, 6 or 10 servers.
Skills are time based. Money making is smartness-based. You also make more money if you spend more time doing so. Remember your complaining about looting taking time, for example?
A game doesn't have to cater to a wide audience to be successful. And those who enjoy the niche this game fits in don't want it to either, I think. Such a shamrock. Such beutiful words, that are spot on btw imo. are but only posted in a troll thread as thread bait.
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masternerdguy
Inner Shadow NightSong Directorate
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Posted - 2012.06.12 02:20:00 -
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HTFU Things are only impossible until they are not. |
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Maximum Entropy
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.06.12 02:20:00 -
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And if this thread is deleted, or trolled heavily, I must point out, that I'm tired of filling out that part of the subscription cancellation process that asked why I'm cancelling.
This time I've decided to make a thread about it. It's not that suicide ganking that bothers me, or whatever goonswarm or the russians do, or the economy, it's the little things CCP did just to take up more time for some inane and arbitrary reason, or just to make more money.
I really think the game has potential, if they would just hire some people with the job of
Streamlining gameplay, improving the user experience
I feel there is NO ONE at CCP offices who has that job title.
But there could very well be a guy with the job description of:
"Making things take longer & complicating things" Hell, I think they have a whole department for that. |
masternerdguy
Inner Shadow NightSong Directorate
699
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Posted - 2012.06.12 02:22:00 -
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Maximum Entropy wrote:And if this thread is deleted, or trolled heavily, I must point out, that I'm tired of filling out that part of the subscription cancellation process that asked why I'm cancelling.
This time I've decided to make a thread about it. It's not that suicide ganking that bothers me, or whatever goonswarm or the russians do, or the economy, it's the little things CCP did just to take up more time for some inane and arbitrary reason, or just to make more money.
I really think the game has potential, if they would just hire some people with the job of
Streamlining gameplay, improving the user experience
I feel there is NO ONE at CCP offices who has that job title.
But there could very well be a guy with the job description of:
"Making things take longer & complicating things" Hell, I think they have a whole department for that.
Oh man, he's cancelling his army of acconunts.
It's getting real! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eGQ5VFt7P4 Things are only impossible until they are not. |
Sobach
Fourth Circle Total Comfort
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Posted - 2012.06.12 02:23:00 -
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Maximum Entropy wrote:I've played on and off for 5 years and these 2 things have really grinded my gears.
you've played for 5 years and still haven't figured out how to properly salvage a mission? especially these days with ships like the noctis available?
try using those couple neurons you have between your ears, it may help you figure some of these stuff out. |
Meryl SinGarda
Belligerent Underpayed Tactical Team
542
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Posted - 2012.06.12 02:23:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Use a tractor beam?
That's what she said.
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Nyreanya
Serenity Labs New Eden Research.
163
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Posted - 2012.06.12 02:24:00 -
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Maximum Entropy wrote:Someone please tell me any other MMO that makes you spend an HOUR just looting the things you've killed. If you bothered to use a proper salvage ship, you wouldn't take this long.
Maximum Entropy wrote:And having to alt-tab out to the internet every 5 minutes so you don't fall asleep is not very immersive. It is if you use the ingame browser and call it Galnet.
Maximum Entropy wrote:Now name a successful MMO that doesn't let you customize the look of your avatar. Oh right, there isn't one. Because people like to customize how they look in a game. (I'm talking about ships) Right, because t3's don't change shape or anything, and you can't see what type of guns you have fit. And EVE lets you customize your avatar far more than most games.
Maximum Entropy wrote:that's because hardly anyone wants to play your game. That's why their numbers keep dwindling each month, right?
Maximum Entropy wrote:And those who do aren't rewarded for actually playing and doing things in the game, because it's all TIME based. (ROFL what a joke) ... If you actually made your gave attractive to the general population instead of a small niche audience, you wouldn't have to have micro transactions because people would gladly pay a subscription.
Because there's no active ways of making ISK. Yup, all those micro transactions that are running rampant. |
Bluddwolf
Minmatar Death Squad Broken Chains Alliance
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Posted - 2012.06.12 02:25:00 -
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My suggestions for the OP:
1. Noctis is your friend. 10 x targets; 8 high slots; lock on range is about 80 km; tractor beam range is 67 km; Salvage range is 5km; loot range is 1500m
2. More efficient looting / salvage since Inferno screw up.... Tractor 4 wrecks in close enough to salvage; Salvage first; Lock onto 4 new Wrecks; Salvage first..... Keep on doing this until you have to move. Loot all containers before moving. repeat this process in new location.
3. Another option is to ignore small wrecks. Unless they have tags, their loot / salvage is usually not worth the effort since nerf.
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Lipbite
Express Hauler
75
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Posted - 2012.06.12 02:26:00 -
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EVE is real. Use magic wand. I mean tractor beam.
P.S. EVE doesn't use common logic. Like you can see -10 security status guys piloting ships in hi-sec. Accept it or it will eat you from inside and turn into World of Tanks player. |
Maximum Entropy
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.06.12 02:26:00 -
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So, the first thing I'd do if EVE hired me is,
Create a task force of devs to help new players with terminal illnesses, such as cancer, AIDS, etc who would like to fly t2 ships, battleships and capital ships, but will die before the TIME required to achieve those goals passes.
Then I'd add a few specialized slots to battleships, so they could have scanners, cloaks, analyzers, tractor beams, salvagers, etc, without sacrificing dps or tank. This would make it worthwhile to actually level up your skills, as opposed to each new ship being exactly like the last one... (tank or dps) |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2012.06.12 02:27:00 -
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Maximum Entropy wrote:LOL why should I have to? Good news: you don't.
You don't have to loot either.
The reason they have so many options for how you can approach this problem is becauseGǪ well, that's just what the game does: it gives you options for how to approach your problems. Hopefully, you pick an option that reduces the amount of effort and makes it easy to beat the competition.
You've made a nice combination of bad choices: loot and do it inefficiently. The solution to this is to make a better choice. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
CONCORD spawns: quick enough to save you?
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Ris Dnalor
Black Rebel Rifter Club
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Posted - 2012.06.12 02:27:00 -
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Maximum Entropy wrote:....blah blah **** moan .... that's because hardly anyone wants to play your game.... whingy bintchy whinge .
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Sobach
Fourth Circle Total Comfort
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Posted - 2012.06.12 02:28:00 -
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Maximum Entropy wrote:So, the first thing I'd do if EVE hired me is,
Create a task force of devs to help new players with terminal illnesses, such as cancer, AIDS, etc who would like to fly t2 ships, battleships and capital ships, but will die before the TIME required to achieve those goals passes.
Then I'd add a few specialized slots to battleships, so they could have scanners, cloaks, analyzers, tractor beams, salvagers, etc, without sacrificing dps or tank. This would make it worthwhile to actually level up your skills, as opposed to each new ship being exactly like the last one... (tank or dps)
I guess it's a good thing they'll never hire you then |
Karl Hobb
Imperial Margarine
342
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Posted - 2012.06.12 02:28:00 -
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EVE is hard. Specifically, it is apparently too hard to fit a tractor beam. Nothing Found |
Possum's Awesome
Foxtrot Uniform Charlie Kilo
1
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Posted - 2012.06.12 02:29:00 -
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If only CCP would put ships in game that made it easier to loot and salvage their mission wrecks.
Possum's Awesome : Awesome Possum
Unjustly accused and condemned for his crimes. |
baltec1
1426
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Posted - 2012.06.12 02:29:00 -
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Maximum Entropy wrote:baltec1 wrote:Use a tractor beam? LOL why should I have to? Seriously. 2500 meters to loot something... why not 10km. Why not 50km? Why is the arbitrary number so small? What were they trying to achieve? Just make things take more time... FOR WHAT? Besides, if I want a tractor beam, I'd have to sacrifice being able to actually shoot things... JUST TO BE ABLE TO LOOT THEM? Are you insane? Who came up with these ideas?
You just won the stupid award. |
ModeratedToSilence
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
112
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Posted - 2012.06.12 02:30:00 -
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Maximum Entropy wrote:
Hey Guys Why can't my wizard hit the dragon with his staff and do more than 14 damage. I mean come on what terrible game play. It also gets on my goat that I can't customize my staff I should be able to make it look like a cross between a hippopotamus and orange.
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RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
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Posted - 2012.06.12 02:31:00 -
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Maximum Entropy wrote: If you actually made your gave attractive to the general population instead of a small niche audience, you wouldn't have to have micro transactions because people would gladly pay a subscription.
Third Largest Paid Western MMO on the market. (Behind WoW and SWOTOR) 5th Largest MMO including FTP. (Add Runescape and SecondLife)
EvE is dying. This is EVE. -á Everybody Versus Everybody. |
Diablo Ex
Pro Synergy ARK.
31
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Posted - 2012.06.12 02:32:00 -
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This has to be the best Troll thread I've seen today... Bravo.
As an "Elite Professional" salvager, I can tell you with confidence that...
1) I rarely have to "slow boat" anywhere... 2) If it takes more that 15 min to loot a 5 room Angel Extravaganza, you are doing it WRONG!!!
It is best left to US Pro's
Contact me in game, in the "Pro Synergy" channel. I will gladly salvage for you, and pay you a fair price to do it.
Problem Solved
.. PRO SYNERGY - We salvage and process the loot, and pay YOU for it. Proven methodology, weekly payout, great attitude. - join game channel "Pro Synergy" for details. http://sites.google.com/site/prospersynergy/ |
Kiteo Hatto
The Fiction Factory Blue Nation
187
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Posted - 2012.06.12 02:34:00 -
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Can't you like...train for a marauder ? They retain the killing power(and then some more) of a fully fitted battleship and they have free high slots for salvager and tractor beams(45k range)
2.5 kilometers is too close ? lol. Let some magic goblins teleport the items from wrecks into your(cargo, how about station)way to ruin realism. How about we don't actually have to undock to do any missions, the rats blow themselves up just by us logging in ? |
Warpshade
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Posted - 2012.06.12 02:41:00 -
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This has to be a Troll. |
Maximum Entropy
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.06.12 02:42:00 -
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Right, I could go all the way back to station to change ships each time I want to do something that in any other game I could just... like do it...
OR... I could make a completely new game account, new toon, and pay another monthly fee just to salvage, or scan... and do other things that in any other game, again, I could just .. you know, DO. |
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