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EvilweaselSA
Weasel Enterprises Ltd GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.11.23 16:44:00 -
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Edited by: EvilweaselSA on 23/11/2009 16:49:37 Edited by: EvilweaselSA on 23/11/2009 16:44:41
Originally by: Cista2
Originally by: Dahkare Raynor I definitely agree with you on neodymium. I bought some more @ 9k the other day because I agree with you. It seems like a very stable counter part to technetium. Especially if they decide to Nerf just technetium.
Unless some large loads are dumped on the market, Neodymium will jump to 20k within the next 3 days.
ok cramer
any other hot stock tips
for the record: neo, three days after this post: 11k
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EvilweaselSA
Weasel Enterprises Ltd GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.11.23 21:01:00 -
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Originally by: Turiel Demon
Originally by: EvilweaselSA Edited by: EvilweaselSA on 23/11/2009 16:49:37 Edited by: EvilweaselSA on 23/11/2009 16:44:41
Originally by: Cista2
Originally by: Dahkare Raynor I definitely agree with you on neodymium. I bought some more @ 9k the other day because I agree with you. It seems like a very stable counter part to technetium. Especially if they decide to Nerf just technetium.
Unless some large loads are dumped on the market, Neodymium will jump to 20k within the next 3 days.
ok cramer
any other hot stock tips
for the record: neo, three days after this post: 11k
Ohai. Bolded the important part.
A few hours after Cista's post that day someone dumped a huge sell order on the market which was about 2x the volume of what had been between 10K and 20K at the time of posting.
Neo did in fact somewhat unexpectedly (given the big stock dumped on the market) go to 15k for a short time in the last few days, and it will probably work its way to 20K by the end of the week.
of course large loads were going to be dumped on the market, that was obvious, it's also obvious it would cause the price to go down
"unless the usual thing happens to restrain the price, the price will go up" i'm a stock analyst give me all your money
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EvilweaselSA
Weasel Enterprises Ltd GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.11.23 21:12:00 -
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Edited by: EvilweaselSA on 23/11/2009 21:14:02 also I MADE MONEY DON'T YOU DARE QUESTION MY METHODS lol
i've got a stockbroker who used to play for the mets who made some consistent money (in a booming market) want his number? just don't ask about when things went bad
I mean man "hey I made money buy buying neodymium and using my MAGIC METHODS to figure out the price would go up" is pretty lame, the price is steadily inching upwards because every day without ccp figuring our how badly they've bungled these moon mining changes (not that I'm upset, since they offer private profit in the interim while my directors nationalize different moons for their moon goo habit) makes it more likely they go live, meaning the price edges closer to the post-dominion price with these changes, and so basically every method that predicts "buy neo now, sell later" will make money (and of course if it's changed well that's just not your fault, all gains are because you're great, all losses are because of things out of your control)
everything in the interim is noise caused by fluctuations in when people ship to and from jita
hope that little knowledge bomb was edifying
edit: I remembered some of you might be euros or the like so you might not get these references, if you don't terribly sorry
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EvilweaselSA
Weasel Enterprises Ltd GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.11.23 21:45:00 -
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Edited by: EvilweaselSA on 23/11/2009 21:45:03
Originally by: Cista2
Originally by: EvilweaselSA the price is steadily inching upwards
Impressive. Are you some sort of Goonswarm secret weapon for the finance market?
yeah
first lesson: difference between 15,000 and 20,000
i can't tell you the answer though, for that you have to join goonswarm
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EvilweaselSA
Weasel Enterprises Ltd GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.11.23 21:54:00 -
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its also kind of hilarious you think that's an effective refutation but then again someone who considers eve speculation on patch changes "finance" probably isn't big on grasping how things appear to normal people
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EvilweaselSA
Weasel Enterprises Ltd GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.11.23 23:03:00 -
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Edited by: EvilweaselSA on 23/11/2009 23:05:46
Originally by: Meths
Originally by: EvilweaselSA its also kind of hilarious you think that's an effective refutation but then again someone who considers eve speculation on patch changes "finance" probably isn't big on grasping how things appear to normal people
you're a bit of a knob aren't you
i'm from goonswarm and I'm here to help
but seriously its kind of hilarious to watch people pat themselves on the back as ~~master financiers~~ when they're so bad at it, my posts are actually full of extremely helpful information, though the difference between 15k and 20k will remain a goonswarm secret
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EvilweaselSA
Weasel Enterprises Ltd GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.11.24 00:13:00 -
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Edited by: EvilweaselSA on 24/11/2009 00:16:16
Originally by: Turiel Demon
A large stock of Neo landing on the market at 10K was not expected, it was in fact an incredibly dumb move on the part of the seller. Had he waited a couple of days he could have sold it for considerably more - if more slowly - but instead he chose to kill the chances of turning 5b worth of Neo into 7.5b or 10b... I have no idea why. Anyone with a rudimentary grasp of the eve markets could see what was about to happen.
ok turiel demon, I hinted at this before, but why might someone want to dump neo now?
hint: neo speculation isn't risk-free, if there was more time to dominion I'd be selling right now but since there's only a week and ccp is clearly overloaded I'm not, why would that be
Originally by: Turiel Demon
For all the words I'm wasting on you I don't really know what your complaint is; like Cista I sold a decent amount of stock at ~13-15k knowing I would be able to re-buy lower, I'm sure others did too, but those not watching the Neo market might not have been able to if not for the warning. You seem to be bawling that there was only a 50% immediate profit to be made rather than a 100% one... QQ more tbh.
[/eveconomics lesson for the terminally trollish]
i have no complaints there's much better people to bounce ideas off in goonswarm but man are you guys touchy at being called out when your predictions fall flat on their face
and again managing to sell neo at a profit right now isn't exactly proof you're a brilliant trader: this is a hard lesson many people learned about their stockbroker who was so great right until the market crashed
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EvilweaselSA
Weasel Enterprises Ltd GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.11.24 00:22:00 -
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Originally by: Turiel Demon
The amount of stock that is 'out there' at any given time may not be known, but the general level can be estimated at don't you think?
either your estimates are horribly low or you don't quite understand what it means that there's that much out there
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EvilweaselSA
Weasel Enterprises Ltd GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.11.24 22:58:00 -
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Originally by: Turiel Demon
Originally by: Tesal
Thats exactly what I am saying, that only a tiny fraction is on the market now.
You and the weasel both, apparently. It strikes me that were there gargantuan unused stockpiles lying around the common cupidity of the typical eve player would have caused more than just the occasional person to drop their few million units, considering the 400% rise in value over the last two months.
I can imagine if some alliances with sufficient hold over their member's previously minor moon mining ops have put an embargo on Neo and the similar rising moonmins for the time being, that could cause such stockpiles to build up; I don't know enough about alliance moon control to comment much on that, but I would certainly be interested to know if this has happened.
people with moons tend to be actual spaceholding alliances and we have all been completely aware of what neo was going to do since that idiot csm leaked it everybody who is anybody is stockpiling it
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EvilweaselSA
Weasel Enterprises Ltd GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.11.25 02:07:00 -
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Edited by: EvilweaselSA on 25/11/2009 02:08:00
Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: EvilweaselSA people with moons tend to be actual spaceholding alliances and we have all been completely aware of what neo was going to do since that idiot csm leaked it everybody who is anybody is stockpiling it
On the other hand, technetium has been in the public eye only since 3 weeks ago...
Right, though given how the CSM thing went down I'd imagine technetium was an unintended effect while balancing neo was intended. However you're correct people definitely haven't been stockpiling that for nearly as long so the amount of speculative stockpiles is probably a fraction of neo (plus, many people have suspected for a while neo and thulium would get buffed and have been mining and stockpiling it)
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EvilweaselSA
Weasel Enterprises Ltd GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.11.27 22:00:00 -
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because fernite carbide has nothing to do with tech or neo, for starters
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EvilweaselSA
Weasel Enterprises Ltd GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.11.29 01:06:00 -
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ahahahahaha christ boy did they screw the pooch on this one
tech will be worth more than dyspro ever was
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EvilweaselSA
Weasel Enterprises Ltd GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.11.29 01:14:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T Edited by: Akita T on 29/11/2009 00:50:58
Originally by: Turiel Demon Pretty massive news from patch notes
The only "news" (as in, stuff not already observed on SiSi and/or talked the hell out in this very thread since a while ago) is the carbide volume reduction. Everything else is exactly as feared/hoped. /me rubs hands... nice ISK, come to my wallet.
the carbide has been there the whole time, it made it so armor plates are no longer a compression technique but it's going to be great for transport savings, plus making carbide towers require much less attention
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EvilweaselSA
Weasel Enterprises Ltd GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.11.30 17:30:00 -
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sisi's patched and there is no change to the actual reaction blueprint, and I highly doubt the description on the details page is seperate from the actual values, it would be easier to program it to pull those directly from the real values
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