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MMarlon
SRBI Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2011.07.17 22:52:00 -
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Nice thinking Herman, but i think every one including the dogs have so much stocked of this tulip that will last some time.
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Terrible Karma
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Posted - 2011.07.17 22:57:00 -
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Originally by: Elise DarkStar Told you guys.
should be 20k sells, 5k buys by monday morning normal person tz (na).
Gratz to those who listened, rofl at those who didnt get out at 80k/90k, enjoy getting a quarter of that.
I have yet to see one iota of evidence from you. You're nothing, but hot air and retcons.
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Elise DarkStar
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Posted - 2011.07.17 23:04:00 -
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Originally by: Terrible Karma I have yet to see one iota of evidence from you. You're nothing, but hot air and retcons.
Uscared, bro? You sound scared. Ride it right to the bottom for all I care. More schadenfreude for me.
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Alain Kinsella
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.07.17 23:14:00 -
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Originally by: Herman Klaus What better way to hurt the Russians taking over the north than to crash the reason they're there. If the Tech moons seem worthless then NC leave with a smug grim on their faces.
Though I agree (several posts ago), they're only going to seem worthless right now. Unless something else happens to keep this price point, its definitely not going to end up or stay at the pre-Dominion level.
Quote: Still doesn't get round the fact that the moons don't pump out enough to satisfy daily demand. Therefore once all the speculation holders get out of Tech then it can only go back up. Its gonna be a slow burner, but it'll be back over 100k by Sept.
As MMarlon (and Akita) mentioned previously, there are still the old stockpiles to go through, from the pre-Dominion days. I don't remember what the numbers are but that data is not as important.
What will be more important (short-term) is who sold all those stocks. I don't suppose someone with the appropriate transaction history would be willing to supply a 'mile high' overview? (yes, I know that's like asking for blood from a stone, but ya never know.)
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Terrible Karma
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Posted - 2011.07.17 23:56:00 -
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Originally by: Elise DarkStar
Originally by: Terrible Karma I have yet to see one iota of evidence from you. You're nothing, but hot air and retcons.
Uscared, bro? You sound scared. Ride it right to the bottom for all I care. More schadenfreude for me.
Yup, lots of hot air and wanna be internet tough guy. Tc could fall to 100 isk pu and all that forum spam you're generating will still be useless noise.
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Terrible Karma
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Posted - 2011.07.18 00:00:00 -
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Originally by: Alain Kinsella
Originally by: Herman Klaus What better way to hurt the Russians taking over the north than to crash the reason they're there. If the Tech moons seem worthless then NC leave with a smug grim on their faces.
Though I agree (several posts ago), they're only going to seem worthless right now. Unless something else happens to keep this price point, its definitely not going to end up or stay at the pre-Dominion level.
Quote: Still doesn't get round the fact that the moons don't pump out enough to satisfy daily demand. Therefore once all the speculation holders get out of Tech then it can only go back up. Its gonna be a slow burner, but it'll be back over 100k by Sept.
As MMarlon (and Akita) mentioned previously, there are still the old stockpiles to go through, from the pre-Dominion days. I don't remember what the numbers are but that data is not as important.
What will be more important (short-term) is who sold all those stocks. I don't suppose someone with the appropriate transaction history would be willing to supply a 'mile high' overview? (yes, I know that's like asking for blood from a stone, but ya never know.)
I'd also be interested in hearing from anyone who knows just how big those stockpiles are. Akita gave a range previously, but it was basically anywhere from not much to couple years supply.
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Herman Klaus
Caldari Touched By Klaus
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Posted - 2011.07.18 05:14:00 -
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Originally by: Elise DarkStar
Originally by: Terrible Karma I have yet to see one iota of evidence from you. You're nothing, but hot air and retcons.
Uscared, bro? You sound scared. Ride it right to the bottom for all I care. More schadenfreude for me.
Elise, you're such a contradicting so and so. I can bet you're buying up Tc like a crazy person right now. As you know full well Akita is right and it'll just bounce back.
Bounce back like Alan Partridge (possibly wasted English humour)
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TornSoul
BIG Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2011.07.18 16:40:00 -
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Without changes to the distribution/production chain it can only go up again.
That's demonstrated fact.
Currently we are (imo) seeing a combination of expansion Tc tweak scare, panic selling & manipulation.
In that order.
It's pretty impossible to predict how far down those forces combined will drive down the price (or indeed how long it will take) before Tc starts going up again.
Stockpiles (of all of the above) *might* be large enough to keep it keep going down until the winter expansion - But I doubt it.
I guess that 3-4 weeks before the winter expansion hits we'll start seeing some "expansion Tc tweak scare" sells again (as we did this expansion) - If the current stockpiles are large enough to prevent Tc from rebounding before then, prices will definitely get hurt pretty bad.
But personally I think it'll start rebounding long before that - I could be wrong though. But only on the timing of it.
Personally I'm still holding on - And I'm pretty ambivalent with regards to what to root for price direction wise.
On one hand I wan't my stock to improve in value, on the other hand, I want more (at a cheap price )
In the mean time I might go and hedge with some Ice
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Elise DarkStar
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Posted - 2011.07.18 16:48:00 -
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I wasn't even buying actually, just being a **** for the sake of being a ****.
If I had an extra couple 100b, I'd just buy bulk from WN at 80% of sell price, sell it properly, and save everyone a lot of grief (as well as get rich as ****).
Making multiple 100k stacks and waiting is hard, amirite?
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2011.07.19 20:39:00 -
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Edited by: Akita T on 19/07/2011 20:47:14
Originally by: TornSoul Without changes to the distribution/production chain it can only go up again.
And the changes to the distribution/production chain could happen as early as this winter, or at worst, next summer. The big question is : what will come first - the "nerf", or the stockpile depletion ? The smaller question is : how big will the "nerf" be ?
Either way, confidence was shaken, and confidence is what made prices go up so much and so soon before stockpile exhaustion, delaying the exhaustion of the stockpiles while prices were up. If we're lucky enough, the current panic will make prices drop enough to stimulate a flurry of consumption, making the stockpiles that are in "shaky" hands deplete quite a while before the nerf, enabling a second big technetium profit wave.
The best time for the big profit wave will most likely be between the winter and the summer expansion IF no nerf comes in the winter expansion (or if the nerf is minor).
P.S. Meanwhile, hop on the gravy train of neodymium for as long as the tech slump lasts _
Make ISK||Build||React||1k papercuts
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Herman Klaus
Caldari Touched By Klaus
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Posted - 2011.07.19 22:15:00 -
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Edited by: Herman Klaus on 19/07/2011 22:23:36
Originally by: Akita T P.S. Meanwhile, hop on the gravy train of neodymium for as long as the tech slump lasts
Although your intent is clear it's also a good call. Neo will hit 35k+ in no time. There is only a few billion ISK worth below 30k. Once that's bought up it jumps up into the 40's.
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corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
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Posted - 2011.07.19 23:39:00 -
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Originally by: Herman Klaus Edited by: Herman Klaus on 19/07/2011 22:23:36
Originally by: Akita T P.S. Meanwhile, hop on the gravy train of neodymium for as long as the tech slump lasts
Although your intent is clear it's also a good call. Neo will hit 35k+ in no time. There is only a few billion ISK worth below 30k. Once that's bought up it jumps up into the 40's.
I had thought about clearing out the sub-24 stuff last night, couldn't decide and figured I'd check again in the morning.
Welp.
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Gillaboo
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Posted - 2011.07.20 00:02:00 -
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And hey, if that rumoured "Hulkageddon" over in C&P ever materializes as more than the ramblings of a few keeners, who knows how far and how high that glittering Neo will go... .
Ah, summer... with the grubby smell of piracy and freshly refined Neo in the air, what could go wrong? ---------------------------------------------
"MONOCLE-FREE" and Proud Of It !!!!!
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corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
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Posted - 2011.07.20 00:11:00 -
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Originally by: Gillaboo And hey, if that rumoured "Hulkageddon" over in C&P ever materializes as more than the ramblings of a few keeners, who knows how far and how high that glittering Neo will go... .
Ah, summer... with the grubby smell of piracy and freshly refined Neo in the air, what could go wrong?
Hulkageddon would be all the more entertaining with the recent rise in Crystalline Carbonide. I mean, I dunno how much of that stuff goes into a hulk, but price rise is a price rise, right?
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Gillaboo
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Posted - 2011.07.20 01:10:00 -
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Very entertaining... and yes, a substantial amount of Crystalline Carbonide goes into each HULK... and various other T2 ships, to be perfectly honest.
Indeed, the autumn months (in the northern hemisphere) could well provide a generous harvest of profit as piracy increases T2 demand and moons continue to change hands.
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"MONOCLE-FREE" and Proud Of It !!!!!
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Gillaboo
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Posted - 2011.07.20 02:52:00 -
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Originally by: Herman Klaus Edited by: Herman Klaus on 19/07/2011 22:23:36
Originally by: Akita T P.S. Meanwhile, hop on the gravy train of neodymium for as long as the tech slump lasts
Although your intent is clear it's also a good call. Neo will hit 35k+ in no time. There is only a few billion ISK worth below 30k. Once that's bought up it jumps up into the 40's.
Looks like Neodymium is well on it's way... I guess the Tech slump continues....
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"MONOCLE-FREE" and Proud Of It !!!!!
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2011.07.22 23:18:00 -
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Pfft, it was already rebounding on the 20th, lowest point was on the 19th (even as low as 79k), now it's back over 100k on sell orders... Bleh, I hoped it would panic-crash much more than that. Dang. Curious if the weekend will bring more 0.0 panicky bulk sell orders though... one can still hope _
Make ISK||Build||React||1k papercuts
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Natasha Nikolaev
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Posted - 2011.07.25 00:29:00 -
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Edited by: Natasha Nikolaev on 25/07/2011 00:29:54 So are the russians done sh*tting on tech yet? I stopped watching for a few weeks and came back and saw it was in the 80s and nearly choked on my cheerios.
Too bad I wasn't following it more, could have made a lot of ISK buying the dip
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2011.07.25 02:50:00 -
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It was a relatively short dip, only about 3-4 days of really low prices, with total market volumes not far in excess of normal volumes, so you would have competed with regular buyers and would have spun prices up much faster. Even if you had plenty of ISK, it's doubtful you could have snagged more than whatever was online at those prices from sell orders, and there wasn't THAT much of it there. Still, theoretically, a 5-15 bil ISK profit for 80-120 bil ISK investment would have been possible in a relatively short timespan. _
Make ISK||Build||React||1k papercuts
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2011.07.25 14:31:00 -
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Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha on 25/07/2011 14:42:12 Technetium seen from another perspective: Linkage.
It'd have taken some serious brain impairment to manage to lose on Tech. |
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Claire Voyant
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Posted - 2011.07.25 17:07:00 -
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Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha on 25/07/2011 14:42:12 Technetium seen from another perspective: Linkage.
It'd have taken some serious brain impairment to manage to lose on Tech.
Two months notice? Tech peaked in late May, so you must have posted the sell signal in March. But wait, that link was posted only 7 minutes before. Maybe you meant "investors have had 2 months to figure out that they should have sold in May." When are you going to post the graph showing we should have bought last week?
Thanks for the advance notice you idiot. Next time try posting before everybody already knew what happened.
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MMarlon
SRBI Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2011.07.25 17:33:00 -
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Originally by: Claire Voyant Edited by: Claire Voyant on 25/07/2011 17:18:16
Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha on 25/07/2011 14:42:12 Technetium seen from another perspective: Linkage.
It'd have taken some serious brain impairment to manage to lose on Tech.
Two months notice? Tech peaked in late May, so you must have posted the sell signal in March. But wait, that link was posted only 7 minutes before. Maybe you meant "investors have had 2 months to figure out that they should have sold in May." When are you going to post the graph showing we should have bought last week?
Edit: Oh wait, I guess you just did. 80K is a "psychological level." I wonder how you came up with that number? Why not 60K or 100K? Oh yeah, because if you picked one of those you would look like a moron.
Thanks for the advance notice you idiot. Next time try posting before everybody already knew what happened.
Yes, pritty much sumarized view of what is TA all about. VV tech is good, but the results are late. Bring the next kid, please. |
Nimrod Nemesis
Amarr Royal Amarr Institute
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Posted - 2011.07.25 18:18:00 -
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Originally by: Claire Voyant Edited by: Claire Voyant on 25/07/2011 17:18:16
Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha on 25/07/2011 14:42:12 Technetium seen from another perspective: Linkage.
It'd have taken some serious brain impairment to manage to lose on Tech.
Two months notice? Tech peaked in late May, so you must have posted the sell signal in March. But wait, that link was posted only 7 minutes before. Maybe you meant "investors have had 2 months to figure out that they should have sold in May." When are you going to post the graph showing we should have bought last week?
Edit: Oh wait, I guess you just did. 80K is a "psychological level." I wonder how you came up with that number? Why not 60K or 100K? Oh yeah, because if you picked one of those you would look like a moron.
Thanks for the advance notice you idiot. Next time try posting before everybody already knew what happened.
No, you just don't understand. He knew it all along. He just didn't want the 90% of us who will never earn any money to find out.
VV would happily prove to all of us that he's read tech like an open book and made TONS of isk in the process, but that is beneath his station as a 10%'er and massively successful super-human of the economic master-race.
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Elise DarkStar
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Posted - 2011.07.25 19:03:00 -
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Edited by: Elise DarkStar on 25/07/2011 19:03:49 "tech will go down some amount at some point in the future"
:smugs:
VV is a prime candidate for marketing "sooperseekrit magic rituals" to. Did you send in the cheque to become a Level Four Adept yet? I hear the level four badge is the coolest.
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Nimrod Nemesis
Amarr Royal Amarr Institute
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Posted - 2011.07.25 19:19:00 -
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Edited by: Nimrod Nemesis on 25/07/2011 19:20:51
Originally by: Elise DarkStar Edited by: Elise DarkStar on 25/07/2011 19:03:49 "tech will go down some amount at some point in the future"
:smugs:
VV is a prime candidate for marketing "sooperseekrit magic rituals" to. Did you send in the cheque to become a Level Four Adept yet? I hear the level four badge is the coolest.
You are laughing now, but I just recently got my decoder ring from the "forex reccomended" box of GENERAL MILLS cereals (and it only took a mere 293 boxes to find it). Amatures and the uninitiated might not understand how this flouresent green decoder ring can help them read the candle-stick graphs, but that isn't really important at all. As we all know, the PARAMOUNT objective here is simply to flaunt our innate ability to say "I told you so," to the pathetic sub-humans who insist on labeling our FOOL-PROOF investments as "gambling," when we all know that our SCIENTIFIC-SOCIOLOGICAL-PSYCOLOGICALLY-PROVEN methods are no less predictable than the very sun-rise that calls us to a new day of fleecing these poor newbs.
o7 my enlightened friend.
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2011.07.25 19:29:00 -
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Originally by: Claire Voyant Edited by: Claire Voyant on 25/07/2011 17:18:16
Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha on 25/07/2011 14:42:12 Technetium seen from another perspective: Linkage.
It'd have taken some serious brain impairment to manage to lose on Tech.
Two months notice? Tech peaked in late May, so you must have posted the sell signal in March. But wait, that link was posted only 7 minutes before. Maybe you meant "investors have had 2 months to figure out that they should have sold in May." When are you going to post the graph showing we should have bought last week?
Edit: Oh wait, I guess you just did. 80K is a "psychological level." I wonder how you came up with that number? Why not 60K or 100K? Oh yeah, because if you picked one of those you would look like a moron.
Thanks for the advance notice you idiot. Next time try posting before everybody already knew what happened.
Why should I consider you or the other similar class B trolls as anything better than being my liquidity pool? Had Akita or Raw23 or someone worthwhile asked me, I'd have happily told them. They do their homeworks though, so they don't need to be told.
Auditing | Research | 3rd Party | Collateral Holding | EvE RL Charity |
knanid volatar
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Posted - 2011.07.25 20:31:00 -
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Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha
You're just a troll
Anyone who asks the question you have asked is too lazy to work it out for themselves
Summarised your post.
Would have asked, but by your own standards that would make me not worthy to ask the question.
How long till you leave now?
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Nimrod Nemesis
Amarr Royal Amarr Institute
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Posted - 2011.07.25 21:09:00 -
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Originally by: knanid volatar
Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha
You're just a troll
Anyone who asks the question you have asked is too lazy to work it out for themselves
Summarised your post.
Would have asked, but by your own standards that would make me not worthy to ask the question.
How long till you leave now?
How dare you insiuate that VV is anything but a god-given market prophet?
He has done ABSOLUTELY NOTHING except help us all! I for one can't find enough palm leaves to throw at his feet right now, since he is clearly martying himself of the cross for the entire market community despite CCP's best efforts to silence him.
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2011.07.25 21:52:00 -
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Originally by: knanid volatar
Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha
You're just a troll
Anyone who asks the question you have asked is too lazy to work it out for themselves
Summarised your post.
Would have asked, but by your own standards that would make me not worthy to ask the question.
How long till you leave now?
No, you could have asked like others did, and be told. I did not write courses and articles for 1+ years for none else to hear.
But the negative nannies, no. They won't get anything.
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Nimrod Nemesis
Amarr Royal Amarr Institute
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Posted - 2011.07.25 21:56:00 -
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Exactly!
1+ years of PERFECT 20/20 hind-sight vision! YOU SIMPLY CANNOT DISPUTE THAT!
Seriously, to all the haters: consider who you are dealing with. You're heckling one of the top 10% of humanity here and it's pretty clear that you're in over your financial head. I can only assume at some point VV will use his vast wealth to buy CCP and ban you all. Tread lightly!
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