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Siigari Kitawa
Gallente The Aduro Protocol
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Posted - 2009.11.05 01:54:00 -
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Edited by: Siigari Kitawa on 05/11/2009 01:59:08 In honor of my completion of tech 2 mega pulse in anticipation of the Dominion release, I have created the following monstrosity.
[Armageddon, ZZZZZZZOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMM] Domination Nanofiber Structure Domination Nanofiber Structure Domination Overdrive Injector Domination Overdrive Injector Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Damage Control II
100MN MicroWarpdrive II Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800 Dread Guristas Warp Disruptor
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Large YF-12a Smartbomb
Large Ancillary Current Router I Large Energy Metastasis Adjuster I Large Semiconductor Memory Cell I
Berserker II x5
:3
I was messing around with a Harbinger the other day and was pleased when I was buzzing around so fast I was almost untouchable. Popping cruisers in it was easy, as I was getting excellent DPS at 20+km. Then I moved to the battleships once Large Pulse Laser spec was completed and now I am just dazzled by this ship's performance.
Some may argue that 1850m/s is crap for a battleship, but if it's moving like a Harbinger (which it pretty much is, just a little sloppier on aligning) it is basically a really big version of a nano harb. Pushing close to 1000 DPS at 20+km, and over 1100 at closer ranges.
The only downside to this is the fact that its natural battleship buffer is offset by the fact that it has the signature of a battleship. Once caught, it is going to have trouble tracking and is going to take on damage much faster than the Harbinger version. So it has its down sides as well. Over all though this ship is a sweet piece of hardware and I am proud to fly it around ;D
After doing a bit of looking, the Domination Nano and Overdrives are cheap for what they give you (10% more structure and 30% more cargo capacity) so I feel that is required on such a large ship. Also, I am going to be fitting up some more faction stuff to sweeten it just a bit more, it needs a little extra umph in certain departments so it may shine more. Sucks though that faction heat sinks don't do too much for it :\
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Ecky X
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Posted - 2009.11.05 02:22:00 -
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There are a few reasons why you'll lose this ship quickly on Tranquility.
1. Smaller ships will catch you.
2. You can't kill smaller ships (terribad tracking).
3. Nobody solos on TQ, smaller ships bring bigger ships.
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Thingymawotzit
Kangaroos With Frickin Lazerbeams Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2009.11.05 02:23:00 -
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I like the idea of this, but I would like to clarify a few things -
Are you solo? If so what targets do you pick?
If your in a fleet, what other ships do you generally fly with? And what do you send to scout or do you scout yourself?
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TimMc
Gallente Brutal Deliverance Extreme Prejudice.
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Posted - 2009.11.05 02:28:00 -
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I was unsure to clap or call you a moron.
Then realised the top speed you quote is overheated, and the agility still sucks. I do think it will be a funny battle, please fraps.
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Artemis Rose
Sileo In Pacis THE SPACE P0LICE
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Posted - 2009.11.05 03:51:00 -
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Normal speed would be under 1300 w/o snakes and about 1550m/s with snakes, your agility is around 14seconds and your acceleration will leave something to desired.
Either you keep at range at 24km and nuke anybody dumb enough to spam approach...
Or the smart target flies effortlessly out of your point range (as your terrible agility will mean you spend a lot of time at reduced speed trying to turn), or flies at you in an angle and avoids just about all of your laser fire
You being you, buy a 28K-30K point. You don't want to be in neut range, at the very least. *** Currently Playing: Trolls from Outer Space Current Equipment: VISAcard chain mail, +2 Amulet of Epic Whine, Self Banstick +2 WTB: +666 E-peen killboard stats |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2009.11.05 03:57:00 -
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Jeez let people experiment. SK's account, SK's time, SK's ship, SK's subscription fee. What are we all supposed to just go to Battle Clinic and be told what to do? I guess anyone who does not work 9-5 in a cubicle, drive a late model sedan, live in a house in the burbs, and take their days off when anyone else does is all wrong, fail, weird...etc. Do we all have to be blond-haired and blue-eyed too?
I didn't know you could fit more than 1 overdrive injector.
For years I ignored the "this module is for <insert size class> ships" in the info and came up with some very good speed tanking ships. Problem is, you can break that tank with a web/scram.
This fit looks like it could lay down damage fast and mess with the other players' OODA Loops but loses this effect once the surprise wears off. I wonder what some web drones would do to slow down other targets to keep them from catching up, or make them more susceptible to the guns. Mix small web drones with painter drones and that might take the edge off smaller ships. Give and take, which is what fitting a ship is about.
If you might think this ship is fail, then don't make me post some of my fits lest you all die from disgust. (but I still make ISK and survive, go figure)
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2009.11.05 04:04:00 -
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might work if you fly with a tackler or two and sit out around scorch range.
with a 24km (max) range buffer you are going to get ****ed up at some point, I'm predicting that point will be sooner rather then later.
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Anubis Xian
Reavers
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Posted - 2009.11.05 05:04:00 -
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Did you run out of money to waste on that setup?
Originally by: CCP Oveur The client handles no logic, it is simply a dumb terminal.
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Siigari Kitawa
Gallente The Aduro Protocol
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Posted - 2009.11.05 07:45:00 -
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A lot of the responses to this thread have me smiling, surprisingly.
I'm looking at it between a solo and a small gang ship. Like I said above, I am fitting faction to it, but for purposes of privacy I'm going to keep this one private. Yeah, I have a long range point fitted. The biggest problem here is that CPU is the major bottleneck in this setup. It prevents it from going 'above and beyond' the standard line.
With snakes, this ship would be silly. 2200m/s would have msot battlecruisers tilting their heads in a combination of astonishment and shock. Problem is once that initial effect wears off, things become defensive for me. With literally no tank I have to use this selectively against targets.
But mostly it's just for fun. I like fun ^_^
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2009.11.05 08:06:00 -
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Once again, you demonstrate that you have way too much money and way too little common sense. Sure, your straight-line speed is not that bad (though only 1247m/s, hardly the 1850m/s you claim), but you have four fatal problems:
1) Your acceleration and agility are terrible. Not only are you slower than everything but other battleships, you're so slow to get moving or change directions that it isn't that hard for even slower ships to catch you.
2) Your HP buffer is laughably bad, and with battleship sig radius and speed, you're taking full damage from everything. Once your opponents get over their surprise at your "creative" setup, all they have to do is press F1 and wait for the killmail (and they won't have long to wait).
3) Your cap sucks. Even with the cap booster throwing in 800s as fast as possible and zero neuting, you can't keep your cap-hungry MWD and guns running. In any decent-length fight, you're going to be out of cap and motionless, not MWDing around like a nano HAC.
4) You're still dumb enough to throw faction modules on every bad setup you can think of, no matter how little you benefit from them. Any possible justification for this setup is negated by the fact that it costs way too much for a paper-thin ship that dies the moment anything shoots at it. And since everyone knows you're a hilarious faction loot pinata, you're going to be primaried 99% of the time.
If you want to fly a paper-tanked Armageddon, you're much better off with something like this:
[Armageddon, GANK!] Damage Control II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II
100MN MicroWarpdrive II Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800 Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L [empty high slot]
Ancillary Current Router I [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot]
Ogre II x5
Forget about trying to be fast (which you aren't), and go for maximum possible dps before you die. -----------
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Ancy Denaries
Caldari The Confederate Navy Forever Unbound
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Posted - 2009.11.06 06:09:00 -
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Originally by: Ecky X 3. Nobody solos on TQ, smaller ships bring bigger ships.
Get a clue, please. ---- The Demigodess with a Conscience - An EVE IC Blog Personal Killboard |
Suas
Perkone
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Posted - 2009.11.06 06:43:00 -
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Siigari in dumb fitting non-shocker. _________________________
HELLO! My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. PREPARE TO DIE! |
Mahke
Aeon Of Strife
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Posted - 2009.11.06 09:13:00 -
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I enjoy flying nano-ed out harbingers to no end, so of course I cranked out eft and tried to figure if I could get a similar geddon setup designed that worked similarly.
Take everything I say with a grain of salt (because this is just eft on the nanogeddon, haven't actually tried it), but, I don't like it. Align time is around 8 seconds or so (dont remember exactly). When it comes down to it, the align time is just too close to ten seconds (which is an important breakpoint because thats what a much heavier BS could do with the mwd trick).
Speed is nice, but, for small gang work (as opposed to solo), the align time is absolutely crucial, and for everything you sacrifice compared to a normal fit BS or a plated/trimarked harbinger (comparable in speed/mobility) its not worth it.
Maybe I'd feel differently if I had the skills for t2 sentries or the like to really take advantage of the dronebay.
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Lubomir Penev
Dark Nexxus
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Posted - 2009.11.06 11:01:00 -
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Originally by: Siigari Kitawa
In honor of my completion of tech 2 mega pulse in anticipation of the Dominion release, I have created the following monstrosity.
1vs1 my Crow, 30km starting range? -- 081014 : emoragequit, char transfered to a friend, 090317 : back to original owner blog |
Rogue Steel
Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.11.06 11:07:00 -
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No, just no. NanoGeddon will die to a Bellicose or Velator |
Eli Porter
Amarr Altruism.
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Posted - 2009.11.06 11:38:00 -
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Sadly the concept of Nano BS's only works for the Minmatar line of battleships, and is best applied with the Machariel, particularly after Dominion. I suggest you go for that instead, as it fits your apparently overpriced solo big ships state of mind.
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Spaztick
Terminal Impact Kairakau
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Posted - 2009.11.06 12:22:00 -
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I think a tempest with no speed mods goes faster.
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Brayiel
Seal Clubbers
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Posted - 2009.11.06 13:35:00 -
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Would possibly work as a bumping off station ship
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Rex Cable
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Posted - 2009.11.06 19:30:00 -
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Edited by: Rex Cable on 06/11/2009 19:31:44 Linkage
Ya that setup worked really well
0 kills 1 loss
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Commander Shag
No Trademark
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Posted - 2009.11.06 20:14:00 -
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Originally by: Rex Cable
Linkage
Ya that setup worked really well
0 kills 1 loss
Another shocker.
While I give him credit for trying new things, the outcome was pretty obvious.
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Dancul1001
Amarr Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.11.06 21:53:00 -
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Maybe before the nano nerf and if u didnt suck at pvp this might work for you
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Lt Kuran
No Trademark
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Posted - 2009.11.06 22:01:00 -
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im comming to farm you to pay for my capitals
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Hiroshima Jita
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Posted - 2009.11.07 06:01:00 -
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Confirming this thread is made of win.
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Muad' Dib
Gallente Beyond Divinity Inc Beyond Virginity
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Posted - 2009.11.07 06:55:00 -
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Originally by: Rex Cable Edited by: Rex Cable on 06/11/2009 19:31:44 Linkage
Ya that setup worked really well
0 kills 1 loss
He was better off with a pimp disruptor instead of a pimp mwd. Not to mention that he wasn't even using navy charges. :( --- I smack just for myself. Allow faction cap boosters to be traded via normal market ! |
Trefnis
Minmatar 24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2009.11.07 07:14:00 -
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Originally by: Muad' Dib Not to mention that he wasn't even using navy charges. :(
yes he was other than that it was stupid fit and no surprise he died so fast
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Muad' Dib
Gallente Beyond Divinity Inc Beyond Virginity
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Posted - 2009.11.07 07:47:00 -
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Originally by: Trefnis
Originally by: Muad' Dib Not to mention that he wasn't even using navy charges. :(
yes he was other than that it was stupid fit and no surprise he died so fast
He had 8-9 Cap Booster 800's in his cargo, granted kb's can have issues with new stuff, i'm still gonna go with 'he wasn't using' because i have yet to see anything on the contrary. --- I smack just for myself. Allow faction cap boosters to be traded via normal market ! |
Deva Blackfire
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2009.11.07 12:20:00 -
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Originally by: Muad' Dib
Originally by: Trefnis
Originally by: Muad' Dib Not to mention that he wasn't even using navy charges. :(
yes he was other than that it was stupid fit and no surprise he died so fast
He had 8-9 Cap Booster 800's in his cargo, granted kb's can have issues with new stuff, i'm still gonna go with 'he wasn't using' because i have yet to see anything on the contrary.
Clear geddon holds 18 charges + those in injector. He had overdrives so -40% at most = around 13 charges in cargo + 5 in injector. Still no buffer, poor speed = dead geddon.
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Roland Deschaines
Minmatar The Gentlemen of Low Moral Fibre
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Posted - 2009.11.07 13:18:00 -
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Except that Amarr and Minmatar battleships are perfectly capable of shooting up to 30KM.
The only real point of your speed is the ability to GTFO if you manage to quickly smartbomb frigate sized tacklers. But it won't kill anything but sub-BS ships that can't shoot up to 30km (and making a BS that can kill sub-BS ships isn't particularly impressive).
-- Monsieur Rolly
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Neurotica Zeshi
Gallente Worst Case Scenario.
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Posted - 2009.11.07 15:53:00 -
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The real sad part is your not even trolling and at what point did you think that it was actually a good idea, i mean seriously come on
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Bibbleibble
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Posted - 2009.11.07 16:11:00 -
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As with what it resembles, if you're trying to get an Armageddon to go fast, you're doing it wrong.
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