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Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3337
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Posted - 2012.06.13 17:56:00 -
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Great changes, I appreciate all the thought and effort that went into this. |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3344
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Posted - 2012.06.13 18:32:00 -
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Atum wrote: This doesn't appear to have been a nuclear-level fsck-up (e.g. Incarna, NEx) that required CSM summits or panicked roll-backs, so where's the harm in waiting a month or two and iterating slowly? As mentioned in the test server thread, the reason this is being dealt with isn't so much to block jade's attempt to let us shoot everyone in highsec, but to allow actual mercs to market their services. Since that's a major feature of this expansion, mercs being unable to charge a fee is the sort of broken mechanic that needs a quick CCP response. |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3349
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Posted - 2012.06.13 20:18:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote: I kinda repeated that a fair bit earlier Alekseyev but seemed nobody was listening :)
well no you claimed "the entire csm" was against the change and naturally were ignored when you were repeatedly contradicted by csm member after csm member |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3349
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Posted - 2012.06.13 20:21:00 -
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I kept claiming the sun orbited around the earth, and people kept ignoring me! |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3350
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Posted - 2012.06.13 20:29:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote: Stop telling fibs and get on the spin control over at Eve news 24 weaselor. Only one CSM member tried to contradict me and he wasn't ever at the meeting referenced.
why on earth would i care about en24
tons of people with csm tags posted in that thread and the only one not explicitly mocking you was hans, and you could tell how much it took out of him to not mock you |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3368
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Posted - 2012.06.14 02:09:00 -
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DarthNefarius wrote: lol a Goon telling someone else to stop lying? Raise your hands here if you actually believe any Goons!
oh i guess you'll just have to believe every csm member and every ccp employee who commented on it |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3527
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Posted - 2012.06.19 21:43:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote: Well what the CSM "believe" is quite well documented in various podcasts. I advise anyone wishing to discover for themselves to listen to Noir guy on the Crossing Zebra's ep six podcast (57 mins in)
I'd just like to alert anyone who is not familiar with the depths of Jade's insanity that almost each and every member of the CSM has posted explicitly what they believe about this change in response to Jade, yet Jade consistently lies about what they've said and always links things like hour-long podcasts nobody will actually listen to instead of linking the many posts they've made on these forums. Because, you see, the things they've posted don't work well for Jade's argument and he thinks you're all idiots. |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3527
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Posted - 2012.06.19 21:48:00 -
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as to why jade's solution is dumb: that's actually been explained ad nauseum as well but jade feels if he keeps asking it until everyone gets tired of answering and just ignores him, he will seem like he is right
again, this is because he thinks you, the readers, are idiots |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3527
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Posted - 2012.06.19 21:50:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote:Well given the pretty significant opposition to this particular change expressed in this and *many* other threads on the forums "entirely though the posts of one Jade Constantine and virtually nobody else" |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3527
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Posted - 2012.06.20 10:38:00 -
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Richard Desturned wrote:Mara Rinn wrote:The people making 2T ISK/week are technetium miners you need 700 tech moons to have that much income in a week and I'm pretty sure there are far less than 700 tech moons there's 350-400.
edit: argh |
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Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3527
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Posted - 2012.06.20 10:39:00 -
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Nikon Nip wrote: Which is exactly what has happened, only the Goons thought we would just bend over and take the abuse. Oh how wrong they were.
you are, and will continue to do so
meanwhile our unwardeccable npc alt freighters will continue to supply us and bring our tech to jita
have fun! |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3529
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Posted - 2012.06.20 12:23:00 -
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Lady Boon wrote: How does charging corps extra to add allies help the Merc profession? Don't you need to limit the supply of allies to adjust the value of an ally (economics 101)?
You failed economics 101.
If you only have a limited number of ally slots, you must pick the most effective allies for those slots. 5 random trash alliances is a poor use of your scarce resources (ally slots): instead you will want the actually effective corporations. |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3537
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Posted - 2012.06.20 13:27:00 -
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Lady Boon wrote:Actually I passed.
Limiting the number of ally slots reduces the elasticity of demand, this stifles the Merc market. that might be a legitimate criticism if the "merc market" was any sort of market currently, however it is not |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3537
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Posted - 2012.06.20 13:35:00 -
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Weaselior wrote:Lady Boon wrote:Actually I passed.
Limiting the number of ally slots reduces the elasticity of demand, this stifles the Merc market. that might be a legitimate criticism if the "merc market" was any sort of market currently, however it is not to elaborate by creating scarcity you create economic behavior with regard to that scarcity and create the seeds of a market
currently, as there is no scarcity of any resource there is no economic activity of any kind |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3544
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Posted - 2012.06.20 18:09:00 -
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Nikon Nip wrote: So, if I understand this correctly, you ARE afraid of wardecs and do care about them, otherwise you wouldn't need to hide in the npc corps. Interesting, another admission of fear direct from a goon.
this is one of those things that's so stupid it's actually difficult to respond to because to focus on just one of the stupid things lets the other ones slip through
you cannot threaten us with wardecs, because like anyone with brains larger than a snail, we do our shipping in npc corps. a freighter is not a combat ship: it cannot do damage and so its only recourse is to avoid combat, so naturally we do so. given the choice of screening a freighter with a fleet or simply dropping it into an npc corp naturally we'll take the easy road because who wants to put in effort moving a space truck
we have nothing to actually fear from a collection of highseccers with little more brains than a turnip because we know how to play this game and therefore know that the method they're trying to threaten us with simply doesn't work
so we laugh about the idea that we're actually threatened by having everyone in empire wardecced with goonswarm to the extent we'd batphone devs is so laughable that its almost suprising even jade believes it |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3588
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Posted - 2012.06.21 12:47:00 -
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goliath please allow me to wardec jade on the forums tia |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3588
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Posted - 2012.06.21 13:49:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote:Weaselior wrote:goliath please allow me to wardec jade on the forums tia You know perfectly well that would lead to one of your alts losing a thread full of moon minerals on the first day and once I got 50 allies you'd have to whine to Goliath to turn off the forum ally system again come now that guy wasn't even in my corp, you think i can be bothered to react 65 moons worth of tech?
for the record that would require a minimum of 195 towers |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3588
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Posted - 2012.06.21 15:16:00 -
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I too agree we should listen to the devs and not countless pages of self-interested screeds.
They've weighed in, you say? |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3588
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Posted - 2012.06.21 15:17:00 -
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oh my, it seems they've decided against your self-interested screeds, i suppose now you will admit you have lost and cease posting
best of luck! |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3588
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Posted - 2012.06.21 16:02:00 -
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jade i'm sorry i thought we agreed you'd cease posting self-interested screeds now that the devs had weighed in |
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