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Graslik
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Posted - 2009.11.06 03:27:00 -
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My Level 4 buddy has great SP's but that protects me only so much. I know you are not supposed to ignore your ship bonuses (Raven) but my Torp launcher(s) only hits to 21km and to get that close to the Rat BS's and not have him running away requires fitting an AB which means only having one shield amp. Active Cap Booster helps alot but running up on those Rats like that is begging to be scrammed and shortly dead. Haven't tried it yet but can get a single 1200 Scout with EMP together with my T2 Cruzers.That's optimal at 28km Pretty darn disappointed in the T2 Cruzers lack of butt kicking. For a 1200 to hit Rat BS's is a single Mizuro Tracking Enhancer going to do the job together with an AX-2 in slot 7 or do I have to gimp my Lo-Slots further with more tracking support? If I really cut my Cruz Launchers I could add a second 1200. Level 4 with only one shield amp and no stabs on really scares poop outta me. |
Loco Eve
State War Academy
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Posted - 2009.11.06 04:02:00 -
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DEATH FOR SURE.
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Saietor Blackgreen
Crimson Star Empire
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Posted - 2009.11.06 04:13:00 -
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DO NOT PUT ANYTHING BUT MISSILES on a Raven.
If you lack range, fit flight time/flight speed rigs. Or, switch to cruises - you still should have enough damage.
Small stuff should be taken out by your light/med drones easy.
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SPECKILLER
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Posted - 2009.11.06 06:35:00 -
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Are you new to EVE and did you buy this character? You should not have any difficulty in a Raven flying L4s if you have the skill to use T2 Cruise Launchers. Posting what you have on the ship would also help to make recommendations.
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Tyslas
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Posted - 2009.11.06 07:03:00 -
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Originally by: Graslik Level 4 with only one shield amp and no stabs on really scares poop outta me.
I lol'd.
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Selina Scott
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Posted - 2009.11.06 07:23:00 -
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Originally by: Tyslas
Originally by: Graslik Level 4 with only one shield amp and no stabs on really scares poop outta me.
I lol'd.
stabs?!
you have got to be ****ting me?
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SPECKILLER
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Posted - 2009.11.06 08:28:00 -
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Edited by: SPECKILLER on 06/11/2009 08:32:05 Edited by: SPECKILLER on 06/11/2009 08:28:54 No, I don't think he is. I think he's super serious.
Look at his post history - he's asking about buying a Crystal set and is wondering if the bonus only applies to active shield tankers. And in his OP he says "...is a single Mizuro Tracking Enhancer..." - IIRC that's over ~100m worth.
EVE: Visa.
It is very, very funny that he's fitting this stuff but I feel bad and feel obliged to help
Edit: Did I mention how it's super funny? Edit: Did I also mention how funny fitting a tracking enhancer, no matter the reason, on a Raven is?
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Crimsona Endarius
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Posted - 2009.11.06 09:49:00 -
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I've had a couple corp members in the corps I've ran who've bought their way in to the game. I remember the one guy who was a couple weeks in to the game, mining in a maller or the like with a few harvester drones. He also lost the ship due to war and repurchased the harvester drones before I could get through to him about how cost efficient they are.
There was also this one other guy, and I liked the feller, he had a habit of donating 100 mil to the corp every time I saw him around. Sure he logged only once or twice a week for a half an hour, but every time he did, the corp got richer. He was a three month old player, and I was afraid that he was running a macro, but later when I confronted him about it, he said that his work pays way too much, and that he hasn't got too much time to play because of it but eve seemed a really cool game and he wanted to make the best of it. God bless the man :D
Other than that, I always enjoy reading about those lolwtf killmails that get posted on c&p. t1 cruisers with rigs (before the rig changes) and faction modules and the like.
Imho people who turn real money in to play money, should first do some research on what to spend. They don't get how it's so unimaginably easy to invest all that real money badly in eve and lose everything in a blink of an eye.
This raven pilot op goes in that class.
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Mahke
Aeon Of Strife
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Posted - 2009.11.06 10:23:00 -
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Quote: Level 4 with only one shield amp and no stabs on really scares poop outta me.
Needs more I-stabs so you can GTFO if the rats start locking you tbqfh.
Use one per level of mission, so 4 should do the trick here.
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Mike712
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Posted - 2009.11.06 10:38:00 -
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Edited by: Mike712 on 06/11/2009 10:38:01 I'm probably going to get flamed for posting this but WTH, the OP really looks like they need help and a rugged and forgiving starter fit for their raven.
To the OP check this out: http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/27770-Perfect-Starter-Lv4-Mission-raven.html
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Graslik
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Posted - 2009.11.06 11:56:00 -
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I am using the T2 Cruzers and they are doing pitiful little damage. And no I didn't buy my way to where I am. Lots of missions and mining and I don't care if you believe it or not. There's a lot I don't know because my first year has been largely solo and I pick up what info I can. I wanted to use Torps on the BS's but checking thru info it says my Torps should be good to 24.5km. Popping a 'roid reveals the Torps are only good to 21km. Even an excellent AB is no help because the Rats run away faster than I can catch them. T2 Torps should help me stretch out. This one Raven represents a year of hard work and if I lose it I'm afraid I'm finished. I realize I could do it again but don't feel inclined to. I just built it up a piece at a time. I was going to put on a Bay Loader rig for more DPS but I need to look at the missile rigs again and see what would help me get distance on my Torps until I can train the T2 Torps. On implants there is one to improve Flight Range (ZMC) and one for Velocity(ZML). Aren't they the same thing...distance-wise? |
Almrausch
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.11.06 12:17:00 -
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i cannot believe this
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Mogadon Man
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Posted - 2009.11.06 12:18:00 -
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Originally by: Graslik stuff
You are kidding, right
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Draeklore
Unknown-Entity Maru Ka'ge
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Posted - 2009.11.06 13:29:00 -
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Originally by: Graslik My Level 4 buddy has great SP's but that protects me only so much. I know you are not supposed to ignore your ship bonuses (Raven) but my Torp launcher(s) only hits to 21km and to get that close to the Rat BS's and not have him running away requires fitting an AB which means only having one shield amp. Active Cap Booster helps alot but running up on those Rats like that is begging to be scrammed and shortly dead. Haven't tried it yet but can get a single 1200 Scout with EMP together with my T2 Cruzers.That's optimal at 28km Pretty darn disappointed in the T2 Cruzers lack of butt kicking. For a 1200 to hit Rat BS's is a single Mizuro Tracking Enhancer going to do the job together with an AX-2 in slot 7 or do I have to gimp my Lo-Slots further with more tracking support? If I really cut my Cruz Launchers I could add a second 1200. Level 4 with only one shield amp and no stabs on really scares poop outta me.
Use cruise missiles on your Raven. They don't have the damage of torps but you will hit targets as far as you can lock and the time you would spend moving to a target you can spend deal damage to them. Once you get your skills up they will start doing nice damage.
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Tippia
Raddick Explorations
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Posted - 2009.11.06 13:34:00 -
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Originally by: Graslik And no I didn't buy my way to where I am. Lots of missions and mining and I don't care if you believe it or not.
The reason no-one believes you is because your back-story doesn't check out.
It's not a matter of only "picking up what info [you] can" — it's a matter of, if you've gone so far as to use what you say you're using, and affording what you indicate that you can afford, you would have to have actively avoided learning anything about the game in order to ask the questions you're now asking… ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki |
Borasatar
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Posted - 2009.11.06 19:48:00 -
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/me fires up a locator agent.
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Dacryphile
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Posted - 2009.11.06 21:51:00 -
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Originally by: Graslik My Level 4 buddy has great SP's but that protects me only so much. I know you are not supposed to ignore your ship bonuses (Raven) but my Torp launcher(s) only hits to 21km and to get that close to the Rat BS's and not have him running away requires fitting an AB which means only having one shield amp. Active Cap Booster helps alot but running up on those Rats like that is begging to be scrammed and shortly dead. Haven't tried it yet but can get a single 1200 Scout with EMP together with my T2 Cruzers.That's optimal at 28km Pretty darn disappointed in the T2 Cruzers lack of butt kicking. For a 1200 to hit Rat BS's is a single Mizuro Tracking Enhancer going to do the job together with an AX-2 in slot 7 or do I have to gimp my Lo-Slots further with more tracking support? If I really cut my Cruz Launchers I could add a second 1200. Level 4 with only one shield amp and no stabs on really scares poop outta me.
Don't use torps unless you are flying a golem.
If your cruise missiles aren't doing any damage, I can only imagine that it is your missile support skills. Go to market > skills > missile launcher op and buy guided missile percision, rapid launch, target nav prediction, and warhead upgrades. If you are still hurting for range get missile bombardment and missile projection. Train all to IV.
You should not need warp stabs either. If you are running L4s you need T2 drones. T2 hammerheads and hobos are a mission runners best friend. Make sure you train drone interfacing up to IV at least, as well as combat drone op, drone sharpshooting, durability and navigation.
Originally by: Doc Robertson ...take a good look at this pic and tell us which one is you.
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rubico1337
Caldari Mnemonic Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.11.06 22:09:00 -
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there is now a 75mill bounty on OP's raven. im feeling spiteful today
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Kahuna Bob
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Posted - 2009.11.13 14:24:00 -
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Originally by: rubico1337 there is now a 75mill bounty on OP's raven. im feeling spiteful today
This put a smile to my face and restored my faith in humanity. Thank you very much :-)
Kahuna
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Bitty Bit
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Posted - 2009.11.13 20:25:00 -
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Edited by: Bitty Bit on 13/11/2009 20:26:54 Do your missions in a drake till u can fit the raven properly...there is no reason to be putting WC-Stabs on a raven unless you're going into lo-sec. Also 2 places to look first...New Citizens Q&A (you'll get less ridicule for asking ...questions) and also eve-survival.org u can check first whether the lvl 4 even has scrams in it..
P.s the raven sux for missions with t1 mods/launchers
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