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evilPHish
SyNtHeTiC D.N.A Cold Steel Alliance
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Posted - 2009.11.06 23:43:00 -
[121]
At least I now get to say "I told you so" to all the ppl that kept telling me "Dominion is gonna be just fine". Thx for not letting me down CCP. Oh and while you're at it, can we get capture the flag sovereignity for 0.0? And I want Aura yelling "KILLING SPREE". Or one of your accounting guys screaming "Dude, where did our subscribers go???"
This patch is a hit below the belt for everyone living in 0.0 or who was planning to move there. A lot of the reasons have already been stated here, 0.0 post-dominion does NOT allow you to go for riches, our NRDS System in Providence, which you so proudly held up as an example of how 0.0 should be is going to be next to impossible to sustain, small entities will NOT have a chance to get into 0.0 because they simply can not afford it, etc...
The only thing 0.0 will be after that patch is a big **** for rich and bored alliances. "We are so rich, we self-D a titan every week!" "That's nothing, we have sov in 0.0!"
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Speed Freek
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Posted - 2009.11.06 23:44:00 -
[122]
Can CCP please explain how a system can support 10-50 people making isk at the same rate as they would if they did Level 4 Missions in Empire. (And how a corporation can pay for it at 11% tax)
The costs need looking into as well - You are only removing the need for 1 Sov holding POS (Possibly 2 for the paranoid Alliances, with poor fuel maintenance).
What type of system are you aiming for break-even on, when looking at the old costs vs the new system?
Speek Freek
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Sentinel Eeex
Caldari DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.11.06 23:46:00 -
[123]
A. Ha. Aha. Ahahahaha.
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahaha.
No wonder you wouldn't give any details, you have no ****ing idea what you're doing.
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Virtuozzo
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.11.06 23:46:00 -
[124]
Well, Dominion was going to shake things up.
It does
Here's a new wallpaper for the expansion
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Hemmo Paskiainen
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.11.06 23:47:00 -
[125]
Edited by: Hemmo Paskiainen on 06/11/2009 23:50:14
Originally by: Speed Freek Can CCP please explain how a system can support 10-50 people making isk at the same rate as they would if they did Level 4 Missions in Empire.
Maybe they decide to double the amount of bs in a belt for each military level while they increase the quality of the rats aswell. And maybe if they do this i really hope they dont forget to adjust the loot tables from mission rats (lesser mods, or better no loot and boost mining).
Would be fun fighting 9 to 15 battleships in a belt
Double the amount of rats in a cosmic would be an good option to boost the cosmic's.
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Josh Silver
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.11.06 23:49:00 -
[126]
Originally by: RevrendStyx
Your going to have to WORK for your space. Not just sit around and make monies from moon goo.
Originally by: RevrendStyx
My alliance does not hold any space
Excellent. What's your position at CCP by the way?
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Pnuka
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.11.06 23:50:00 -
[127]
Originally by: evilPHish At least I now get to say "I told you so" to all the ppl that kept telling me "Dominion is gonna be just fine". Thx for not letting me down CCP. Oh and while you're at it, can we get capture the flag sovereignity for 0.0? And I want Aura yelling "KILLING SPREE". Or one of your accounting guys screaming "Dude, where did our subscribers go???"
This patch is a hit below the belt for everyone living in 0.0 or who was planning to move there. A lot of the reasons have already been stated here, 0.0 post-dominion does NOT allow you to go for riches, our NRDS System in Providence, which you so proudly held up as an example of how 0.0 should be is going to be next to impossible to sustain, small entities will NOT have a chance to get into 0.0 because they simply can not afford it, etc...
The only thing 0.0 will be after that patch is a big **** for rich and bored alliances. "We are so rich, we self-D a titan every week!" "That's nothing, we have sov in 0.0!"
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The system itself is a great improvement over what we have now, the numbers need tweaked and if they are going to insist upgrades effect cosmic anomolies then they need fixed. If they are going to effect mining, then mining needs looked at. Maybe they plan for that as well?
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Black Bird1000
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Posted - 2009.11.06 23:52:00 -
[128]
Today is the 1st April, isn't it?
ISN'T IT?!
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Vadinho
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.11.06 23:52:00 -
[129]
Edited by: Vadinho on 06/11/2009 23:51:57
Originally by: Virtuozzo Well, Dominion was going to shake things up.
It does
Here's a new wallpaper for the expansion
this is a better wallpaper for the new expansion
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Tamahra
Gallente Danke fuer den Fisch
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Posted - 2009.11.06 23:54:00 -
[130]
Originally by: Hemmo Paskiainen
Double the amount of rats in a cosmic would be an good option to boost the cosmic's.
decent idea Please resize your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels with a maximum file size of 24000 bytes. StevieSG |
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ElvenLord
4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.11.06 23:54:00 -
[131]
Originally by: Gerard Deneth Note that he says the THE COST TO UPGRADE not the cost to maintain an upgrade. That means you're looking at a 50-500 mil one-shot cost to upgrade, not to maintain it each month. Note as well that the posted upgrade table at the top of the devblog does NOT include the cost of the other upgrades (asteroids/plexes/etc).
Perhaps wishful thinking, but I seriously think that a mistake was made reading this thing....
But you do realize that sov and HUBs do cost in maintainance too? You can not upgrade a system without it.
Point is, those upgrades are not cost effective, to both corporations and members. Its easier to just spread same ammount of ppl in few unclaimed systems then pay for a sov system. Oh and if you say sov system is safer check again, if you want cyno jammer or a jump bridge it costs more in initial and maintainance costs.
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Sentinel Eeex
Caldari DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.11.06 23:55:00 -
[132]
I, too, love treating the game like a job
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SamuraiJack
Celestial Horizon Corp.
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Posted - 2009.11.06 23:55:00 -
[133]
Originally by: Virtuozzo Well, Dominion was going to shake things up.
It does
Here's a new wallpaper for the expansion
Touche Virt.
Next round is yours :P
/me waves his scotch bottle.
you, you could be anywhere somewhere, so far from here wherever you are, like a fallin' star come back to planet earth, burn out with me =-
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Ukucia
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2009.11.06 23:55:00 -
[134]
Originally by: Pnuka
The system itself is a great improvement over what we have now, the numbers need tweaked and if they are going to insist upgrades effect cosmic anomolies then they need fixed. If they are going to effect mining, then mining needs looked at. Maybe they plan for that as well?
The expansion comes out in 3 weeks. No time to make any serious changes. So unless they've been secretly fixing them all this time, mining and anomalies will continue in their current state.
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Lynn de'Marco
Divine Power. Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.11.06 23:56:00 -
[135]
i can see NPC 0.0 gettign very well populated :)
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Johraiken Fenris
Paxton Industries Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2009.11.06 23:56:00 -
[136]
Originally by: Tamahra
Originally by: Niding Well, Providence is the most populated space in 0.0.
The wealth generated from neutrals seldomly finds its way to the SOV holders wallets.
To ensure it DOES generate wealth for the SOV holders, we have to shut out neutrals and reserve the resources for ourselves.
Kinda ironic that CCP used CVA/Providence as a template of "how its done".
in the near future you can sign contracts with your local neutrals, which automatically bills them each month for the set amount of isk that both parties have agreed upon
So for NRDS this means we have to make a contract with everybody NOT red. Although our red list is pretty large, the not-red list is a whole lot longer. I'm sorry, but that is not an option.
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RevrendStyx
Pilots Of Honour Aeternus.
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Posted - 2009.11.06 23:57:00 -
[137]
Originally by: Josh Silver
Originally by: RevrendStyx
Your going to have to WORK for your space. Not just sit around and make monies from moon goo.
Originally by: RevrendStyx
My alliance does not hold any space
Excellent. What's your position at CCP by the way?
For me to answer this in any fashion you have to clarify why you think I work for ccp.
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Kamikazie
Amarr AWE Corporation Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2009.11.06 23:58:00 -
[138]
Quote: Entrapment - increase the chance significantly of a DED complex being located in the depths of your solar system
Survey Networks - increase the chance significantly of mini-profession sites being located within your solar system
Way to screw over drone lands again. We do not have DED complexes nor do we really have mini profession sites. We don't get archeology sites and the hacking is laughable compared to other regions. Minus these two features were still basically paying for with the cost per day fees. How does CCP plan to balance these new sov mechanics so drone lands don't get bent over the barrel yet again.
also food for thought, corps get isk magically for ratting. Drone space we do not, we have to rely on monthly trips to empire to sell alloys and minerals for ISK.
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Vadinho
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.11.06 23:59:00 -
[139]
Originally by: RevrendStyx For me to answer this in any fashion you have to clarify why you think I work for ccp.
well you clearly dont know anything about nullsec so he probably put two and two together
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gfldex
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Posted - 2009.11.06 23:59:00 -
[140]
Power to the ppl!
/me raises fist
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Pnuka
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.11.07 00:01:00 -
[141]
Originally by: Vadinho
Originally by: RevrendStyx For me to answer this in any fashion you have to clarify why you think I work for ccp.
well you clearly dont know anything about nullsec so he probably put two and two together
Ouch
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Kazuo Ishiguro
House of Marbles
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Posted - 2009.11.07 00:02:00 -
[142]
Please visit this thread and voice your support if you think agents should be added to the system of upgrades:
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1210331 --- 34.4:1 mineral compression ISRC Racing, Season 7 - schedule |
evilPHish
SyNtHeTiC D.N.A Cold Steel Alliance
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Posted - 2009.11.07 00:03:00 -
[143]
Originally by: Vadinho
Originally by: RevrendStyx For me to answer this in any fashion you have to clarify why you think I work for ccp.
well you clearly dont know anything about nullsec so he probably put two and two together
This! --
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EvilweaselFinance
Weasel Enterprises Ltd GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.11.07 00:04:00 -
[144]
Originally by: Kazuo Ishiguro Please visit this thread and voice your support if you think agents should be added to the system of upgrades:
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1210331
we're told the problem is the code is to fubar'd to support it.
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Vivian Azure
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Posted - 2009.11.07 00:04:00 -
[145]
2 billion ISK a month / 10 players = 3 Triple BS-spawns per day killed by each player...
...that sure is way too expensive
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SamuraiJack
Celestial Horizon Corp.
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Posted - 2009.11.07 00:05:00 -
[146]
Oh and CCP?
Mao Tse Tung said change must come Change must come thru the barrel of a gun Not thru talkin' and not through waitin' And sittin' around just contemplatin' the facts 'Cos we know what they are
NP: Alabama 3. =- The Chronicles of SamuraiJack
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RevrendStyx
Pilots Of Honour Aeternus.
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Posted - 2009.11.07 00:05:00 -
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Originally by: Vadinho
Originally by: RevrendStyx For me to answer this in any fashion you have to clarify why you think I work for ccp.
well you clearly dont know anything about nullsec so he probably put two and two together
An even better goon response. Yes I know nothing of null sec, but you all still suck at eve. We're even. Now back on topic.
These changes don't look to bad to me. Not great but not bad. CCP doesn't always seem to think everything though but at the same time they have been creating this game for ~10yrs. Have you? Let them do their jobby job and stfu and deal with what they give you...orrr like I told the cva guys. Go back to empire or quit and give me your stuffs.
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Tamahra
Gallente Danke fuer den Fisch
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Posted - 2009.11.07 00:05:00 -
[148]
Originally by: EvilweaselFinance
Originally by: Kazuo Ishiguro Please visit this thread and voice your support if you think agents should be added to the system of upgrades:
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1210331
we're told the problem is the code is to fubar'd to support it.
i support this idea, if its technically possible........ Please resize your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels with a maximum file size of 24000 bytes. StevieSG |
Etien Aldragoran
DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.11.07 00:06:00 -
[149]
Originally by: Kamikazie
Quote: Entrapment - increase the chance significantly of a DED complex being located in the depths of your solar system
Survey Networks - increase the chance significantly of mini-profession sites being located within your solar system
Way to screw over drone lands again. We do not have DED complexes nor do we really have mini profession sites. We don't get archeology sites and the hacking is laughable compared to other regions. Minus these two features were still basically paying for with the cost per day fees. How does CCP plan to balance these new sov mechanics so drone lands don't get bent over the barrel yet again.
also food for thought, corps get isk magically for ratting. Drone space we do not, we have to rely on monthly trips to empire to sell alloys and minerals for ISK.
That's what you get for ruining morphite prices.
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Sidus Sarmiang
GoonFleet
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Posted - 2009.11.07 00:07:00 -
[150]
Solution to sov problems:
0.0 alliances need to start griefing the hell out of everyone who lives in empire space until they beg CCP to improve 0.0 enough that we go away. Then we'll see some worthwhile changes.
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