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Utemetsu
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Posted - 2009.11.09 11:42:00 -
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I'm not sure how many of you are familiar with NPR and the Marketplace Morning Report, but I'm going to try to do something similar, with EVE online.
The shows are going to be short, around 5 minutes long each. The first episode is under 2 minutes, mostly because it's just the prices of minerals and fuels. In the future, I'm gonna be reporting on various business news, if applicable, do comparative reports on the mineral prices (i.e. amount change per day) and perhaps even sum up quarterly reports of the larger corporations if those are made available.
There isn't going to be ANY discussion of patches, exceping in cases of affects on the market, and content as is in the Podded Podcast -- This is a market podcast and I'm not going to try and squeeze into their territory, 'cause it's a good show and I don't want to compete with them.
The show should be out between 11 and 12 GMT (which is 6 and 7 am for me).
The site's being worked on right now, but the first show is up if you're interested.
http://evemorningreport.podbean.com/
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Coleostro
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Posted - 2009.11.09 12:23:00 -
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Edited by: Coleostro on 09/11/2009 12:25:49 Was neat, keep it up. :)
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Ji Sama
Caldari Tash-Murkon Prime Industries Sex Drugs And Rock'N'Roll
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Posted - 2009.11.09 13:00:00 -
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Love it :D Remember Quality and Relevance is KEY. Perhaps expand 1 show per week with a discussion, it can be a debate or an interview. Also, i would like to advertise on your podcast :D Contact me for details.
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Hexxx
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.11.09 13:04:00 -
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First - what it gets right.
1) Short, nice to listen to, informative 2) Very bite-sized and regular
Second - suggestions (just my own opinions)
1) Are you quoting prices according to a Jita index? 2) Have the prices changed? Hearing "Trit is up 0.1 isk per unit, currently priced at 3" 3) If someone wants to contribute, maybe let them but keep it in line with the format, small useful bite sized morsels of useful or interesting information.
This is very good, and I'll be listening to the next one.
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Ji Sama
Caldari Tash-Murkon Prime Industries Sex Drugs And Rock'N'Roll
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Posted - 2009.11.09 13:16:00 -
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Also the voice is perfect :D Could fool me for a real pro :p
One tiny thing, since this is your first, dont say my name is ehm eric :p my name is eric will do :p
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Hexxx
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.11.09 13:20:00 -
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Originally by: Ji Sama Also the voice is perfect :D Could fool me for a real pro :p
One tiny thing, since this is your first, dont say my name is ehm eric :p my name is eric will do :p
Posting to confirm that the voice is perfect.
I think you'll find that the more of these you do, the more polished you'll be able to make your delivery of them.
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laksmi2
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Posted - 2009.11.09 14:09:00 -
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somehow there is no sound when i try to listen. do i need a special player?
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Utemetsu
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Posted - 2009.11.09 14:12:00 -
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Edited by: Utemetsu on 09/11/2009 14:13:26 Edited by: Utemetsu on 09/11/2009 14:12:57
Originally by: Hexxx First - what it gets right.
1) Short, nice to listen to, informative 2) Very bite-sized and regular
Second - suggestions (just my own opinions)
1) Are you quoting prices according to a Jita index? 2) Have the prices changed? Hearing "Trit is up 0.1 isk per unit, currently priced at 3" 3) If someone wants to contribute, maybe let them but keep it in line with the format, small useful bite sized morsels of useful or interesting information.
This is very good, and I'll be listening to the next one.
Originally by: Ji Sama Love it :D Remember Quality and Relevance is KEY. Perhaps expand 1 show per week with a discussion, it can be a debate or an interview. Also, i would like to advertise on your podcast :D Contact me for details.
First off, thanks for the positive comments!
1) They were according to a market data dump I did in Jita just prior to the show. I'll experiment with the various methods and whichever ends up being more accurate/relavent I'll use as the permanent index. 2)Thats the plan for tomorrow. I'm keeping an excell document with the prices I report, then it's just simple subtraction. 3)I've got plans for future contributors, Some Ideas are interviews with leading auditors about what they look for, etc, and the process of becoming an auditor and such. I've been trying to figure out how often to do longer shows, and once a week sounds like a healthy interval. Most likely saturdays (Thanks, Ji, I'll contact you in the next day or so regarding advertising, I'm going to be busy the rest of the day till late).
Tomorrow will be a longer show because I've found the third quarter economic report for 2009. I'll do some summizing and relay the most important information to you guys.
As for the website, PodBean is a short-term solution. I'm currently working on it's own website (hand coded by me) and I'll begin posting it there when it's ready for viewing.
Again, thanks so much for the reassurances and support. It's gonna make this project way more fun for me.
Originally by: laksmi2 somehow there is no sound when i try to listen. do i need a special player?
It should be flash based. Update it, I know they've gone to Version 10 recently, that may be the problem.
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Ji Sama
Caldari Tash-Murkon Prime Industries Sex Drugs And Rock'N'Roll
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Posted - 2009.11.09 14:29:00 -
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Originally by: laksmi2 somehow there is no sound when i try to listen. do i need a special player?
You need to press PLAY, it doesnt start automaticallycallycal.
@OP I would consider if you get popular, and get bandwith problems etc. That you put up a "chip in" or paypal donate function on the site. I wouldnt mind paying a few bucks once in a while, to keep a site as yours; updated, relevant and accessible! Nothing worse, than wordpress and podcast services that insist on advertising breaking my immersion :p
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laksmi2
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Posted - 2009.11.09 14:37:00 -
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i installed newest flash player and of course i pressed play. no sound.
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Ji Sama
Caldari Tash-Murkon Prime Industries Sex Drugs And Rock'N'Roll
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Posted - 2009.11.09 14:40:00 -
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Originally by: laksmi2 i installed newest flash player and of course i pressed play. no sound.
wierd, btw i dont think its a flash player, just tested it on 2 other computers, excl my phone, so thats 4 different tests, it works fine.
its a user end error imo.
do you get a popup or something blocking it?
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Hexxx
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.11.09 22:14:00 -
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I think you could find a nice steady stream of ISK by picking up some sponsers and also hosting advertisements on the webpage (via IskSense perhaps).
Also, I STRONGLY recommend you immiediately put Google analytics on the whatever site you host on so that you can track how many people listen. This is very easy and I can provide you guidance on how to do it.
It'll also help you negotiate rates.
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Anni Vest
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Posted - 2009.11.09 23:21:00 -
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Nice idea, but useless if the prices are not even close to correct. 55.93 for isogen for example does not sound right when its stable at 49-52 (or 47-50 in non-JITA regions) for weeks now.
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Lui Kai
Better Than You
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Posted - 2009.11.10 04:19:00 -
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Edited by: Lui Kai on 10/11/2009 04:23:35 Firstly - it's a fun idea. I endorse it, and applaud the effort.
Now, to the critique. Please take this as it's meant: Constructive critisim.
1. Write a script before you start. Read the script, verbatim. It will massively decrease the amounts of "um" "ah" and deadair sentences.
2. As mentioned, give a "up from" or "down from" with each price.
3. If you're looking for more material, include moon goo rates. Also consider including the buy/sell: "Tritanium buying at a, up from b, selling at c, up from d"
4. In 2 and 3, give a basket price (as well as a basket up from and basket down from) - IE: the price of all minerals added together is the "mineral basket" ditto moon goo.
5. Odd music at the end, doesn't really fit the format. Personal preference - stick with more neutral, non-vocal pieces for intro, background, and outro music.
6. You're always going to have people razzing you for price inaccuracies due to time differences when they listen. Make sure the price is 100% on for when you give it, and give the eve time you're reporting the price for.
As said - you have a good voice for the project, have confidence in that. Keep the format, don't be tempted into weighing it down with news, dev blog, or other vaguely market-ish stuff.
If you intend to make this a regular project, drop me a line regarding sponsorship. This is a project I'd possibly get behind, depending on your listener numbers. ----------------
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Thoraemond
Minmatar Far Ranger
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Posted - 2009.11.10 04:38:00 -
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Originally by: Utemetsu [The prices] were according to a market data dump I did in Jita just prior to the show. I'll experiment with the various methods and whichever ends up being more accurate/relavent I'll use as the permanent index.
A 'market data dump [you] did in Jita' sounds like Market Order exports. Is that right? I would be more interested in the actual prices, i.e., the Market History table data.
Looking forward to hearing an episode. The default embedded podcast player fails when buffering for me (i.e., Flash 10 plugged-in, working; no sound heard). This might be related to the script-blocking and other security features I have in place, so I also tried the direct download. Both download links failed also: the 'Audio MP3' link redirects to here, and that promptly refreshes to the main podbean.com site, without kicking off any file transfer. The 'Download' link points to a page with a big 'Download Here' button, but the button does not work for me, being apparently no more than a second link to the MP3 file that fails as described already. á á
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destinationunreachable
Hello Kitty Fanclub
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Posted - 2009.11.10 12:28:00 -
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great idea. keep it short, so you don't burn out, that way you can just read the mineral prices in case you don't feel like doing it. Nice to have: * maybe if something here on MD happens give a hint * announce new QED or Akita postings ;-)
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Utemetsu
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Posted - 2009.11.10 12:52:00 -
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New Show is up. Listen to it here:
http://evemorningreport.podbean.com/
Cheers Gents! I was going to go over the Q3 newsletter, but I have a feeling it's old news. If anyone wants me to cover it let me know.
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Ji Sama
Caldari Tash-Murkon Prime Industries Sex Drugs And Rock'N'Roll
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Posted - 2009.11.10 13:13:00 -
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Edited by: Ji Sama on 10/11/2009 13:13:44 liked the first one better, the atmosphere, the music etc. also the first one where more on spot! i appreciate that you appreciate the feedback, you dont need to tell us :p looking forward to advertising in your show :D also i think most already have been said by other people. loved you added moongoo. perhaps also add salvage? dunno if that is to much.
edit: q3 isnt old news :D its relevant imo. perhaps save it for a longer show :D
keep up the good work, i am confident that you can make this a success if you want to :D
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Kuzya Morozov
Gallente Capital Construction Research
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Posted - 2009.11.10 14:02:00 -
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aaah fu you made me listen to ghosts again :P
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Utemetsu
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Posted - 2009.11.10 14:09:00 -
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You liked the music better in the first one? It's sad cause those are 2 loops that I just threw in because I didn't have time to find some royalty free music. I'll axe the Ghosts songs and go back to that, it seems.
Eve weekend report for Saturday, sometime during the day. It will cover some points on the Q3 report, but I'm not going to read the whole thing.
As for mineral values, I'm going to just use the price history tab, it seems to be way more accurate than doing market reports, uploading to eve central, and downloading it.
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Neffy'Asadi
Big Shadows Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.11.10 15:02:00 -
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Love the idea :) Keep it up :)
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SencneS
Rebellion Against Big Irreversible Dinks
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Posted - 2009.11.10 17:13:00 -
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Might want to look at http://www.eve-markets.net you can create your own "market view" pick what you want to track and read from that. Then maybe randomly pick one from the summery page..
But I like it, great idea and sounds just fine!
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Dzil
Caldari United Kings Holdings
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Posted - 2009.11.10 18:08:00 -
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You know, a live source like this that sent maybe 12 alts to various high sec - low/0.0 gates and probed out whether there were camps there could achieve a high listenership, I'd wager.
Just a fleeting thought.
Dzil's Corp Sales - 200m |
Baeryn
22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit
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Posted - 2009.11.10 19:15:00 -
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Added to my subscription list, it has a lot of potential. Keep up the good work. Role Playing Games by RolePlayGateway |
Utemetsu
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Posted - 2009.11.10 20:19:00 -
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Please note, that in the next week or so I'm moving the podcast off of podbean and onto a wordpress blog that I'm hosting. It should make the design on the website easier to maintain and develop, and It won't cost me anything extra. Just be aware, I'll post when the move is done, which won't be until all design elements are just how I want them.
Cheers, Will talk to you all tomorrow morning.:)
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LaVista Vista
Conservative Shenanigans Party
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Posted - 2009.11.10 21:07:00 -
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It would be very interesting if you include a price index for Minerals, Fuels and moon goo.
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Beoccca
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Posted - 2009.11.11 03:09:00 -
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Kudos to the idea, sounds great so far.
Suggestions:
Drop the price quoting. Perhaps have some sort of updated morning price on the site, as numbers are usually better presented visually.
This will give you more time of your 2-5 min show to nail bits of market related news. Or comment on specific mineral changes and possible reasons, etc.
I'd love to discuss advertisement possibilities, so feel free to contact me at your leisure.
Keep up the good work!
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GPszith
Gallente Pork Chop Express
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Posted - 2009.11.11 04:14:00 -
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Nice job.
I think some "notable" numbers would be more interesting..ie when trit was at an all time high focus there.
Otherwise a summary of the market news would be great. EVEbanks latest info etc:)
I'll listen. -------------------------------------------------- -GPszith
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Utemetsu
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Posted - 2009.11.11 12:52:00 -
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New show is up.
Enjoy!
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Ji Sama
Caldari Tash-Murkon Prime Industries Sex Drugs And Rock'N'Roll
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Posted - 2009.11.11 13:08:00 -
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love it :D you are starting to get the routine already :p
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