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Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.06.14 14:25:00 -
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I like how jade seemlessly transistions from "allegations I ran a space brothel that have been 100% proven with copies of the webpage from the internet archive" to "allegations i am an irl pedophile, as you can see from alleged copies of the goonswarm wiki hosted on dodgy sites completely unrelated to goonswarm" |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3413
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Posted - 2012.06.14 14:27:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote:Which is ironic seeing as how one of their members posted that they specifically downvoted it at the summit in Iceland. Alekseyev Karrde wrote:The gobsmackingly painful thing about it is the change to the ally system they have decided to put onto SiSi was the only proposed "solution" that the entire CSM present advised against during the summit two weeks ago, didn't get any traction from the CCP people at that meeting, and would seem to not address the design goals set forth by CCP Soundwave earlier in this thread in a meaningful or successful way. Dialogue on the internal CSM/CCP forums on this issue is ongoing but my expectations are not high. I should point out that since this statement we've seen CSM vacillating sure. The Eve Uni guy is in favour. But its inaccurate to say that "much" of the CSM supported it given they apparently "entirely advised against it" 2 weeks ago in iceland. I should point out, of course, that Jade is lying once again. Alekseyev posted he wanted a different change (an ally cap) that Jade would have hated even more, and then posted asking Jade never to imply that Alekseyev agreed with him because he considered Jade a complete loon and didn't want to be associated with him. |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3413
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Posted - 2012.06.14 14:29:00 -
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Basically the CSM was 100% behind "screw this infinite ally system" they only disagreed on the particulars of how to nerf it into the ground. Jade, trying to defend the indefensible, is stuck trying to pretend this disagreement over the particular method of patching this exploit was a disagreement over if it was an exploit. |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3413
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Posted - 2012.06.14 14:31:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote:Weaselior wrote:I like how jade seemlessly transistions from "allegations I ran a space brothel that have been 100% proven with copies of the webpage from the internet archive" to "allegations i am an irl pedophile, as you can see from alleged copies of the goonswarm wiki hosted on dodgy sites completely unrelated to goonswarm" Hmmm so you are arguing that because you've created a webpage unrelated to me its somehow everything to do with me while another wiki (that says goonwiki on it and happens to have all your goonwiki content) is somehow not related to you? You guys really are supping on the coolaid in the Mittani bunker. We can't be held accountable for content clearly not under our control. You, on the other hand, were proven beyond a shadow of a doubt to have operated a space brothel, one of the most hilariously pathetic things anyone's ever done. When you denied it, copies of the website were found and shown to you. Now, as you know that trying to factually deny it will get the website waved in your face, you're forced to try and change the subject away from the internet space brothel you owned, operated, and worked in by trying to go on the offensive. |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3413
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Posted - 2012.06.14 14:33:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote:Weaselior wrote:Basically the CSM was 100% behind "screw this infinite ally system" they only disagreed on the particulars of how to nerf it into the ground. Jade, trying to defend the indefensible, is stuck trying to pretend this disagreement over the particular method of patching this exploit was a disagreement over if it was an exploit. Stop lying weaselor. Its not an "exploit" unless CCP label it an exploit. You have repeated this accusation in about 100 posts now. Your credibility is nill in the eyes of any non goon poster really. Well they just did, by patching it and saying "well that was dumb sorry we'll fix it". |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3414
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Posted - 2012.06.14 14:41:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote: I'm actually reminding you that your accusations are false but that didn't stop your organization attempting to smear my name during the 2008 CSM elections by mailing them to my RL contract employers and it hasn't stopped you hosting my RL picture on the internet alongside an explicit accusation of child sex abuse ever since.
You have gotten too deep into "spaceship politics" and have strayed into RL criminal slander Weaselor. Its probably fortunate (for your campaign of harrassment) that you are doing this from America rather than from the UK.
I have not slandered you in any way: I have explained in great detail why your attempted slander of Goonswarm is false. We've clearly established this is an unreliable site outside our control and people who can verify that it is not a mirror of our wiki have done so. I cannot, unfortunately, because the site you reference is associated with computer crime and blocked at my place of work - which makes it clear how unreliable a source this is.
In contrast, I am explaining how one proves these accusations reliably. I can provide a legitimate link to your space brothel, one that is authoritative and accurate and establishes where it was found, when it was copied, and what the link was. That's what webarchive is for. I, however, see no need to wave this link in your face, that I have ready to copy-paste because I don't see the need. But if you insist, I will post it to demonstrate how you prove what was hosted when. |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3414
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Posted - 2012.06.14 14:42:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote: Well I'd guess you'd better prove it.
On the contrary. As an internet lawyer, you should of course be aware - even in the UK! - it is up to you to prove your accusations. We've done all we need to do to prove your "evidence" is unreliable, enough so to have it thrown out of court. |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3414
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Posted - 2012.06.14 14:51:00 -
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I'd like to note that jade's claim that we are guilty of "criminal slander" (actually defamatory libel) is claiming we've committed an offense that actually doesn't even exist in the United Kingdom. I guess our brave internet lawyer hasn't been keeping up with the times! |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3417
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Posted - 2012.06.14 15:42:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote:Can you prove it wasn't ?
Seriously, if you want this matter cleared up just take down the offending wiki page.
We don't have to disprove unsupported, spurious allegations. The "offending wiki page" is not under our control and you've essentially admitted as much. You've attempted to make spurious claims against goonswarm. You've accused "Goonswarm" of contacting your place of work, an action that even if it actually happened (something open to doubt given the many lies you've been caught in) based purely on what you've said was clearly not "Goonswarm" doing something. It's very wrong to do something like that, but we've got no evidence it was even a goon and even if it was, there are 8000 goons. We can't, and don't, control the real-life actions of members of our internet spaceship alliance. You've then wildly asserted I am committing a crime that doesn't exist, and you've claimed goonswarm is responsible for the content of a site we have nothing to do with and no control over. You've done all this when you got caught repeatedly lying about an internet spaceship game making wild accusations of dev favoritism. Throughout this we've been extremely restrained - not even posting the link that proves you owned operated and worked in an internet brothel to refute your claims this is a "lie" - because that's not what this is about. This is about fixing a broken game mechanic - one that we enjoyed, but was broken nonetheless.
Take a step back, breathe, put down the internet lawyers manual, and realize that you've humiliated yourself enough for one year. |
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