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Lord Zim
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Posted - 2012.06.14 12:18:00 -
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Talon SilverHawk wrote:As lead designer he should be neutral and not coming in on any side of the argument. So I guess pointing out that something is close to the truth is "taking sides", when one side is competing in the tinfoilhat of the season competition by sprouting theories about goons telling CCP how to design game mechanics.
Why don't you just come out and say "stop posting, I don't like the things you say" instead of trying to hide behind the "you're not neutral enough" bullshit?
Talon SilverHawk wrote:Worrying REALLY
Tal As is your penchant to signing your posts. |

Lord Zim
792
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Posted - 2012.06.14 12:19:00 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote:Agreed, only adds more fuel to the fire. Only to the tinfoilhatbrigade, because he's not agreeing with them.
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Talon SilverHawk
Patria o Muerte
429
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Posted - 2012.06.14 12:23:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:Talon SilverHawk wrote:As lead designer he should be neutral and not coming in on any side of the argument. So I guess pointing out that something is close to the truth is "taking sides", when one side is competing in the tinfoilhat of the season competition by sprouting theories about goons telling CCP how to design game mechanics. Why don't you just come out and say "stop posting, I don't like the things you say" instead of trying to hide behind the "you're not neutral enough" bullshit? Talon SilverHawk wrote:Worrying REALLY
Tal As is your penchant to signing your posts.
Your a poor troll, what is it about Goons and my sig ? strange
I haven't, if you check my posts ever made any suggestion as such. I have heard the rumours though.
He was out of order being a CCP representative coming in on any side of the argument.
Lol its not like your biased 
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Talon SilverHawk
Patria o Muerte
429
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Posted - 2012.06.14 12:24:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:DeMichael Crimson wrote:Agreed, only adds more fuel to the fire. Only to the tinfoilhatbrigade, because he's not agreeing with them.
He though the blog was spot on. How is that not agreeing ?
Tal
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HVAC Repairman
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
161
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Posted - 2012.06.14 12:25:00 -
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Talon SilverHawk wrote:Lord Zim wrote:DeMichael Crimson wrote:Agreed, only adds more fuel to the fire. Only to the tinfoilhatbrigade, because he's not agreeing with them. He though the blog was spot on. How is that not agreeing ? Tal your reading comprehension is very poor Follow me on twitter |

Kinis Deren
EVE University Ivy League
51
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Posted - 2012.06.14 12:26:00 -
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CCP Soundwave wrote:Good blog post! It's fairly spot on.
Goon alt detected .... oh wait!!!! Sorry, couldn't resist a little light humour  |

Talon SilverHawk
Patria o Muerte
429
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Posted - 2012.06.14 12:27:00 -
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HVAC Repairman wrote:Talon SilverHawk wrote:Lord Zim wrote:DeMichael Crimson wrote:Agreed, only adds more fuel to the fire. Only to the tinfoilhatbrigade, because he's not agreeing with them. He though the blog was spot on. How is that not agreeing ? Tal your reading comprehension is very poor
This should be good tell me how i'm not comprehending
"Good blog post! It's fairly spot on."
Really want to see this spin.
Tal
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Lord Zim
792
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Posted - 2012.06.14 12:28:00 -
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Talon SilverHawk wrote:Your You're.
Talon SilverHawk wrote:I haven't, if you check my posts ever made any suggestion as such. I have heard the rumours though. I was talking about "one side", not "you".
Talon SilverHawk wrote:He was out of order being a CCP representative coming in on any side of the argument. You mean by saying "it's pretty much spot on", saying "that's more or less accurate in how it went down"?
I wonder what you think he could do to not come "down on any side of the argument" when all he's done was say "that's pretty much spot on".
Talon SilverHawk wrote:He though the blog was spot on. How is that not agreeing ? If you read closely, you'll see I were referring to the tinfoilhatbrigade.
I'm certifiably tinfoilhat free. |

HVAC Repairman
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
161
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Posted - 2012.06.14 12:28:00 -
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Talon SilverHawk wrote:HVAC Repairman wrote:Talon SilverHawk wrote:Lord Zim wrote:DeMichael Crimson wrote:Agreed, only adds more fuel to the fire. Only to the tinfoilhatbrigade, because he's not agreeing with them. He though the blog was spot on. How is that not agreeing ? Tal your reading comprehension is very poor This should be good tell me how i'm not comprehending "Good blog post! It's fairly spot on." Really want to see this spin. Tal re-read what you previously wrote and what the person you quoted wrote and see if you can spot the error
im timing you Follow me on twitter |

Lord Zim
792
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Posted - 2012.06.14 12:31:00 -
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I was going to explain in further detail, but I think we'll see if he ever realizes it on his own. |
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Grumpy Owly
Paladin Philanthropists
626
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Posted - 2012.06.14 12:31:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:Grumpy Owly wrote:Sand only exists in the GSF corner of the sandbox, didnt you get the memo?  I think we can find a sizeable sandbox in your undergarments, what with the constant whinging from your side every time there's a thread about goons (i.e. every thread).
Which goes a long way to as seeing an attempt to silence someone elses opinion and trying to control the sand further perhaps?
Might be the reason why such a large organisation like GSF have decided to war decced my 3 man corp under these new mechanics as they don't like the idea of any other developments that are contrary to the controlling of any sand?
And yet you champion the rights of other entities to have a voice? So many double standards over sand, I'm kind of losing track of the hypocrasy curve here. Bounty Hunting for CSM7 |

Talon SilverHawk
Patria o Muerte
429
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Posted - 2012.06.14 12:33:00 -
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Nope your going to have to make it clear I cant see it .
Tal |

Lord Zim
792
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Posted - 2012.06.14 12:33:00 -
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Grumpy Owly wrote:Might be the reason why such a large organisation like GSF have decided to war decced my 3 man corp We've decced you? |

HVAC Repairman
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
161
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Posted - 2012.06.14 12:33:00 -
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Grumpy Owly wrote:Lord Zim wrote:Grumpy Owly wrote:Sand only exists in the GSF corner of the sandbox, didnt you get the memo?  I think we can find a sizeable sandbox in your undergarments, what with the constant whinging from your side every time there's a thread about goons (i.e. every thread). Which goes a long way to as seeing an attempt to silence someone elses opinion and trying to control the sand further perhaps? Might be the reason why such a large organisation like GSF have decided to war decced my 3 man corp under these new mechanics as they don't like the idea of any other developments that are contrary to the controlling of any sand? And yet you champion the rights of other entities to have a voice? So many double standards over sand, I'm kind of losing track of the hypocrasy here. You are free to say whatever you want. GSF is also free to wardec whoever we want. Sounds like everyone has a lot of freedom here
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Grumpy Owly
Paladin Philanthropists
626
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Posted - 2012.06.14 12:35:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:Grumpy Owly wrote:Might be the reason why such a large organisation like GSF have decided to war decced my 3 man corp We've decced you?
Yep, obviously too much of a threat to GSF security, 
Bounty Hunting for CSM7 |

Ten Bulls
Sons of Olsagard
179
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Posted - 2012.06.14 12:36:00 -
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Posting in a goon thread ;) |

baltec1
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Posted - 2012.06.14 12:39:00 -
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Ten Bulls wrote:Posting in a goon thread ;)
Confiming your posting in a goon thread. |

Verone
Veto Corp
275
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Posted - 2012.06.14 12:57:00 -
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I think this and this pretty much say it all.

Verone CEO & Executor Veto Corp WWW.VETO-CORP.COM |
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CCP Soundwave
C C P C C P Alliance
1448

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Posted - 2012.06.14 13:00:00 -
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Talon SilverHawk wrote:Lord Zim wrote:Talon SilverHawk wrote:Considering your part of the issue, piling in on the side of an anti Jade blog which isn't very complimentary, doesn't look very good, and shows you don't have neutrality. What if Soundwave has a better and clearer understanding of the situation and the reasoning behind the change than you do? Hmm? Nah, hang on, he's just the lead designer, what does he know of the reasoning behind any changes made to EVE? What nonsense. As lead designer he should be neutral and not coming in on any side of the argument. Worrying really Tal
I completely disagree, these are my changes that are being discussed and I should certainly be on the side of my changes or something would be horribly wrong. |
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Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
2194
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Posted - 2012.06.14 13:01:00 -
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CCP Soundwave wrote:Good blog post! It's fairly spot on.
Shame it couldn't be posted on Eve Online without getting the author warned for personal attacks and trolling eh Soundwave? 
The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom Epic Inferno Wardec Test, Sign up and shoot Goons for free! |
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Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
214
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Posted - 2012.06.14 13:07:00 -
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Mr Stark wrote:Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:Interesting, I know that Jade has done a lot for the players  Such as his online in game brothels where you get to do cybersex with other guys pretending to be girls. Yep, he sure has done alot for the players. He's a good girl that Jade Constantine fo sho.
I will not comment things I'm not aware of and recommend you to avoid stating "stuff" you have no proves of, but if you do I think posting in this thread is not the good way to go but instead petition dedicated GM and together do something about.
Fact is that around Placid his team do some nice stuff, everything else you're aware that might be against minors or weakest people safety or respect you should do the right thing and use proves instead of spreading rumours.
Not taking his defence, was my enemy in game at some time, but will not accuse him like you did and if you can't prove it you should feel bad. brb |

Onyx Nyx
Perkone Caldari State
67
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Posted - 2012.06.14 13:14:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote:CCP Soundwave wrote:Good blog post! It's fairly spot on. Shame it couldn't be posted on Eve Online without getting the author warned for personal attacks and trolling eh Soundwave? 
How come that you are not perm banned after all these years? Aside from crying a lot, trolling is one of the few other things you have done. |

Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
2200
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Posted - 2012.06.14 13:15:00 -
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Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:Mr Stark wrote:Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:Interesting, I know that Jade has done a lot for the players  Such as his online in game brothels where you get to do cybersex with other guys pretending to be girls. Yep, he sure has done alot for the players. He's a good girl that Jade Constantine fo sho. I will not comment things I'm not aware of and recommend you to avoid stating "stuff" you have no proves of, but if you do I think posting in this thread is not the good way to go but instead petition dedicated GM and together do something about. Fact is that around Placid his team do some nice stuff, everything else you're aware that might be against minors or weakest people safety or respect you should do the right thing and use proves instead of spreading rumours. Not taking his defence, was my enemy in game at some time, but will not accuse him like you did and if you can't prove it you should feel bad.
This is the allegation that Goons posted emails on to my RL contract employers back in 2008 to try to smear my name during the first election campaign btw. They take their internet politics and personal harrassment very seriously.
So much so they still host my real life picture on their wiki alongside a overt accusation I am a RL pedophile who uses rotohypnol on children.
Go figure really.
I have of course petitoned CCP to disallow links to that wiki to no success.
The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom Epic Inferno Wardec Test, Sign up and shoot Goons for free! |

Virgil Travis
GWA Corp Unified Church of the Unobligated
323
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Posted - 2012.06.14 13:22:00 -
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Alia Gon'die wrote:Literally punch every british person.
You're more than welcome to try, don't be surprised when you find you've been left up on bricks though. We love tourists.  Unified Church of the Unobligated - madness in the method |

Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
214
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Posted - 2012.06.14 13:32:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote:Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:Mr Stark wrote:Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:Interesting, I know that Jade has done a lot for the players  Such as his online in game brothels where you get to do cybersex with other guys pretending to be girls. Yep, he sure has done alot for the players. He's a good girl that Jade Constantine fo sho. I will not comment things I'm not aware of and recommend you to avoid stating "stuff" you have no proves of, but if you do I think posting in this thread is not the good way to go but instead petition dedicated GM and together do something about. Fact is that around Placid his team do some nice stuff, everything else you're aware that might be against minors or weakest people safety or respect you should do the right thing and use proves instead of spreading rumours. Not taking his defence, was my enemy in game at some time, but will not accuse him like you did and if you can't prove it you should feel bad. This is the allegation that Goons posted emails on to my RL contract employers back in 2008 to try to smear my name during the first election campaign btw. They take their internet politics and personal harrassment very seriously. So much so they still host my real life picture on their wiki alongside a overt accusation I am a RL pedophile who uses rotohypnol on children. Go figure really. I have of course petitoned CCP to disallow links to that wiki to no success.
Jesus Christ... 
Something should be done about this. brb |

Lord Ryan
Quantum Cats Syndicate
529
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Posted - 2012.06.14 13:33:00 -
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Krios Ahzek wrote:Jake Warbird wrote:Jester is as entitled to an opinion as you are. You're wrong there. Free speech has officially ended in EVE and the related blogs and forums. Stanziel may continue blabbering as long as she agrees with us profusely.
3 post of the first page alone say you're telling the truth! -a"Nerf it cause I can't fly it". I want to fly a badass Mon Calamari stlye-acruiser painted to match my Tron clothes. |

Mr Stark
Pimpin' Ain't Easy Dark Therapy
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Posted - 2012.06.14 13:34:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote:Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:Mr Stark wrote:Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:Interesting, I know that Jade has done a lot for the players  Such as his online in game brothels where you get to do cybersex with other guys pretending to be girls. Yep, he sure has done alot for the players. He's a good girl that Jade Constantine fo sho. I will not comment things I'm not aware of and recommend you to avoid stating "stuff" you have no proves of, but if you do I think posting in this thread is not the good way to go but instead petition dedicated GM and together do something about. Fact is that around Placid his team do some nice stuff, everything else you're aware that might be against minors or weakest people safety or respect you should do the right thing and use proves instead of spreading rumours. Not taking his defence, was my enemy in game at some time, but will not accuse him like you did and if you can't prove it you should feel bad. This is the allegation that Goons posted emails on to my RL contract employers back in 2008 to try to smear my name during the first election campaign btw. They take their internet politics and personal harrassment very seriously. So much so they still host my real life picture on their wiki alongside a overt accusation I am a RL pedophile who uses rotohypnol on children. Go figure really. I have of course petitoned CCP to disallow links to that wiki to no success.
Im not accusing you of anything illegal or even immoral, Im just refering to the stuff you used to have in your bio, links ot external webpages to your virtual list of Eve 'girls' to come and have fun with. Of course I cant prove it and wouldnt care to bother, im sure plenty of other folks know what Im talking about.
Dont sweat it Jade, it just makes you more like a real life politician, you know teh deniable sordid background and so on, makes you all mysterious like... |

Frying Doom
Tinfoil Hat News Ltd.
297
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Posted - 2012.06.14 13:40:00 -
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As it now appears that the shoes is once again completely on the aggressors foot and not really giving the defenders much of a chance without forking out massive amounts of money I must ask. Why did they even bother changing them in the first place?
Take our best example Goonswarm, it now costs a lot more to wardec them but the same or relatively so for them to wardec us. Apparently it doesn't work as intended if everyone jumps on wars the Goonswarm started even though so many people want to attack them, maybe for their actions like Burn Jita and Hulkagedon.
If it was another large alliance that so many people didn't dislike as much it would not be a problem. The new mechanic before the nerf meant that if they started a war they got attacked. Now they are just better off than before and smaller alliances are a lot worse off. Maybe CCP should just skip to the end and force everyone to join a large Alliance.
I think we should go back to the old less broken system. Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
2203
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Posted - 2012.06.14 13:41:00 -
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Mr Stark wrote:Jade Constantine wrote:Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:Mr Stark wrote:Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:Interesting, I know that Jade has done a lot for the players  Such as his online in game brothels where you get to do cybersex with other guys pretending to be girls. Yep, he sure has done alot for the players. He's a good girl that Jade Constantine fo sho. I will not comment things I'm not aware of and recommend you to avoid stating "stuff" you have no proves of, but if you do I think posting in this thread is not the good way to go but instead petition dedicated GM and together do something about. Fact is that around Placid his team do some nice stuff, everything else you're aware that might be against minors or weakest people safety or respect you should do the right thing and use proves instead of spreading rumours. Not taking his defence, was my enemy in game at some time, but will not accuse him like you did and if you can't prove it you should feel bad. This is the allegation that Goons posted emails on to my RL contract employers back in 2008 to try to smear my name during the first election campaign btw. They take their internet politics and personal harrassment very seriously. So much so they still host my real life picture on their wiki alongside a overt accusation I am a RL pedophile who uses rotohypnol on children. Go figure really. I have of course petitoned CCP to disallow links to that wiki to no success. Im not accusing you of anything illegal or even immoral, Im just refering to the stuff you used to have in your bio, links ot external webpages to your virtual list of Eve 'girls' to come and have fun with. Of course I cant prove it and wouldnt care to bother, im sure plenty of other folks know what Im talking about. Dont sweat it Jade, it just makes you more like a real life politician, you know teh deniable sordid background and so on, makes you all mysterious like...
Mate you are part of an organization that hosts RL pictures of "enemy" Eve players alongside accusations they are kiddy-fiddlers to blacken their ingame (and out of game) reputations.
Don't you think you are taking "the game" a bit too seriously now?
The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom Epic Inferno Wardec Test, Sign up and shoot Goons for free! |

Lord Zim
793
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Posted - 2012.06.14 13:43:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote:Mate you are part of an organization that hosts RL pictures of "enemy" Eve players alongside accusations they are kiddy-fiddlers to blacken their ingame (and out of game) reputations.
Don't you think you are taking "the game" a bit too seriously now? Which "organization" is this? |
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