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Commit Sudoku
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.06.14 15:21:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote:Guttripper wrote:I am quite surprised there have not been deadly acts of violence at the yearly Sausagefest... Funnily enough the time I was there a drunken goon did stumble up to me at the bar and slur something about Star Fraction being q ueer. (he was speaking in a thick american accent and I was a bit drunk) Anyways I mishead him and thought he was offering to buy me a beer. So I took the pint class in front of him and said thanks. Next day he gave me real dagger looks on the bus back to the airport - it took me weeks to realize why. ha ha bet he posts in the anime forum
typical guy on foreground: me posting guy in background: you |
Blawrf McTaggart
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1061
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Posted - 2012.06.14 15:24:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote:Guttripper wrote:I am quite surprised there have not been deadly acts of violence at the yearly Sausagefest... Funnily enough the time I was there a drunken goon did stumble up to me at the bar and slur something about Star Fraction being q ueer. (he was speaking in a thick american accent and I was a bit drunk) Anyways I mishead him and thought he was offering to buy me a beer. So I took the pint class in front of him and said thanks. Next day he gave me real dagger looks on the bus back to the airport - it took me weeks to realize why.
i bet he was fat |
Alia Gon'die
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.06.14 15:25:00 -
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Blawrf McTaggart wrote:Jade Constantine wrote:Guttripper wrote:I am quite surprised there have not been deadly acts of violence at the yearly Sausagefest... Funnily enough the time I was there a drunken goon did stumble up to me at the bar and slur something about Star Fraction being q ueer. (he was speaking in a thick american accent and I was a bit drunk) Anyways I mishead him and thought he was offering to buy me a beer. So I took the pint class in front of him and said thanks. Next day he gave me real dagger looks on the bus back to the airport - it took me weeks to realize why. i bet he was fat
And had a neckbeard, ponytail, and wore a fedora. Self-appointed forums hallway monitor |
Atrocitus Parallax
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.06.14 15:30:00 -
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7.5/10 Not bad but a little plain for my tastes...
...wait wrong thread... |
Barbelo Valentinian
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.06.14 15:31:00 -
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Having plowed through an interesting debate in which I have no fish to fry, it seems that Ms Constantine has the right of it.
CCP Soundwave's comment here:-
"[...] you're trying to add some measure of fairness into wars, which isn't really a design philosophy in EVE. "
Seems rather odd from the point of game design philosophy.
To elucidate:-
At the micro level, no game design will allow "Tankmages".
At a macro level, some element of "fairness" (actually the correct terms is "balance") needs to be retained otherwise you have the Alliance-level analogue of a "Tankmage".
Any game design requires balanced forces, or the possibility of bringing things into balance (dynamic ongoing balance - there may be imbalances at times, but there have to be mechanisms to right that balance), otherwise there is no game. Things have to shift around fairly regularly, otherwise the game dies.
Furthermore, if you want to attract players to the game, precisely what you want to do is enable "mom and pop" organizations to band together against the big guns and shake things up. There needs to be an ease of doing that, to match the ease with which the larger organizations are able to wage war.
(IIRC the Goons did something like "newbie frig blobs" in their early days in EVE, but that was because they had the advantage of an out-of-game community with which to help organize it. Really, it would be better to have an in-game mechanic to foster something similar, in order to enable disparate strangers to get together to do something similar.)
EVE's game design philosophy is not (and never ought to be) to allow large organizations to dominate. It is (and ought to be) to foster pew-pew so that the market can tick over so that EVE can be both an s-f simulator and a game. THAT is EVE's design philosophy.
Trying to turn EVE into "LOL In Space" - a game purely and solely about "winning" at any cost - will break EVE. |
Blawrf McTaggart
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1061
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Posted - 2012.06.14 15:35:00 -
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Barbelo Valentinian wrote: (IIRC the Goons did something like "newbie frig blobs" in their early days in EVE, but that was because they had the advantage of an out-of-game community with which to help organize it. Really, it would be better to have an in-game mechanic that enables disparate strangers to get together to do something similar.) .
you mean uh, like forums? |
Aruken Marr
BSC LEGION Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2012.06.14 15:35:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote:Aruken Marr wrote:I think the real issue at hand here is that Jade doesnt understand that hisec wars don't really affect large nullsec alliances. So how can this change be in favour of alliances that have chosen to live in a perma-wardec-esque state out in lawless space? The idea that CCP is protecting the large nullsec alliances from hisec wars is pretty daft. People like Jade need to go away and think about what they've done...
If you want to fight a nullsec alliance with unlimited friends and at zero cost guess where you can go?
Here I was thinking that CCP would be worrying about giving the deccers infinate free targets through the new ally system. Especially since allies can't back out of the agreement. Well perhaps since you want all the fighting to happen in nullsec then sovereignty holders could be barred from using the wardec system? Or would that impact your sense of fairness?
I don't believe I said I want all fighting to happen in Null. I was just pointing out that for this change to be in favour of large nullsec alliances the new wardec system and infinate allies would have needed to affect them in the first place. In fact I was originally thinking that this change would be to remove an infinate source of free targets for the attacker. |
Lord Zim
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Posted - 2012.06.14 15:37:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote:Well depends if you are happy with the rest of eve player base considering you a liar I guess. I do understand it puts you in a difficult position because obviously the mirror was taken from the live wiki at some point (thus the image and text had to be taken from the site under your administration for which your lead admin would be held criminally responsibly) So if I make a "copy" of someone's "wiki", put tons of slanderous comments in it and put it all on respected website "crackerjax", they suddenly have to prove that it isn't a fuckload of bollocks, edited and put up there by someone who's taking the game way too seriously?
Awesome. I'll get right on that. |
Barbelo Valentinian
The Scope Gallente Federation
318
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Posted - 2012.06.14 15:40:00 -
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Blawrf McTaggart wrote:Barbelo Valentinian wrote: (IIRC the Goons did something like "newbie frig blobs" in their early days in EVE, but that was because they had the advantage of an out-of-game community with which to help organize it. Really, it would be better to have an in-game mechanic that enables disparate strangers to get together to do something similar.) .
you mean uh, like forums?
The SA forums were unconnected with the game, and there was already a sort of "community spirit" ready-made - a point of focus, if you will. EVE's in-game forums are not comparable. |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3417
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Posted - 2012.06.14 15:42:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote:Can you prove it wasn't ?
Seriously, if you want this matter cleared up just take down the offending wiki page.
We don't have to disprove unsupported, spurious allegations. The "offending wiki page" is not under our control and you've essentially admitted as much. You've attempted to make spurious claims against goonswarm. You've accused "Goonswarm" of contacting your place of work, an action that even if it actually happened (something open to doubt given the many lies you've been caught in) based purely on what you've said was clearly not "Goonswarm" doing something. It's very wrong to do something like that, but we've got no evidence it was even a goon and even if it was, there are 8000 goons. We can't, and don't, control the real-life actions of members of our internet spaceship alliance. You've then wildly asserted I am committing a crime that doesn't exist, and you've claimed goonswarm is responsible for the content of a site we have nothing to do with and no control over. You've done all this when you got caught repeatedly lying about an internet spaceship game making wild accusations of dev favoritism. Throughout this we've been extremely restrained - not even posting the link that proves you owned operated and worked in an internet brothel to refute your claims this is a "lie" - because that's not what this is about. This is about fixing a broken game mechanic - one that we enjoyed, but was broken nonetheless.
Take a step back, breathe, put down the internet lawyers manual, and realize that you've humiliated yourself enough for one year. |
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CCP Spitfire
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2012.06.14 15:44:00 -
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This thread has gone way off the topic. *click*
CCP Spitfire | Russian Community Coordinator @ccp_spitfire |
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