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Simetraz
State War Academy Caldari State
372
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Posted - 2012.06.14 13:10:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Simetraz wrote:
So what you are telling me is that you were forced pay the community this time in order to make your projected profit margins after expenses.
Still not emergent though, I did agree that the first Hulkagedden was emergent, but lets face it number 5 might be the biggest success story but it is no longer emergent.
That is all don't read more into it then I have stated, you all are working yourself into a frenzy for no reason.
It's still making content for people.
Nothing more then any corporation or alliance leader does by setting goals. And definitely not the largest action taken on by the EVE community either. It is just another player event going on in the sand box. And like everything else going on right now in EVE. It effects some and for others they don't even know it is going on. It is just the way it goes.
EVERYBODY KNOWS |
David Cedarbridge
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
233
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Posted - 2012.06.14 13:12:00 -
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Simetraz wrote:David Cedarbridge wrote:Simetraz wrote:baltec1 wrote:
What have you done to provide a large amount of content to the EVE playerbase?
Really ???, this is a terrible come back even for you. You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. Also, you skirted the truth in your actual reply to me and totally missed the boat on other points. 1) This is the first Hulkageddon actually sponsored by the CFC (or really sponsored by anyone except for a handful of independent donors. Financing, automating, and providing rewards to all participants of a specific level of participation is the very ideal of emergent and evolutionary player created content. 2) Again, the scale of the event is unmatched. Hulkageddon 1-4 only could dream of the sort of turnouts and payouts that this one has benefited from. Frankly, I'm kinda saddened that I took the bait on this. So what you are telling me is that you were forced pay the community this time in order to make your projected profit margins after expenses. Still not emergent though, I did agree that the first Hulkagedden was emergent, but lets face it number 5 might be the biggest success story but it is no longer emergent. That is all don't read more into it then I have stated, you all are working yourself into a frenzy for no reason. Again, you keep using words you don't understand. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/emergent?s=t
Also, this is the biggest frenzy I think I've ever worked myself into while casually typing words on the Internet since my vacation started. I'm all aflutter. |
Andoria Thara
Fallen Avatars
35
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Posted - 2012.06.14 13:14:00 -
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I've figured it out. Goons and CCP have teamed up to prevent AFK miners from making enough ISK to plex their accounts each month.
Not enough isk from afk mining to plex all 10 of your accounts? I guess it's time to buy plex, subscribe, or cancel those bot accounts. |
Fabulousli Obvious
State War Academy Caldari State
345
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Posted - 2012.06.14 13:15:00 -
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Aryth wrote:It is also true that we often seek the most public and dramatic display of game mechanics we can find.
Like making sure the Server Population Graph visibly makes evident a sharp plunge to the minimum possible population for server up-time viability.
9,000 sounds about right for that. I think that God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability. In all matters of opinion, our adversaries are insane. ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900 |
baltec1
1440
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Posted - 2012.06.14 13:16:00 -
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Andoria Thara wrote:I've figured it out. Goons and CCP have teamed up to prevent AFK miners from making enough ISK to plex their accounts each month.
Not enough isk from afk mining to plex all 10 of your accounts? I guess it's time to buy plex, subscribe, or cancel those bot accounts.
Before this day is over we will also be credited with the changes CCP are going to make to barges. |
Fabulousli Obvious
State War Academy Caldari State
345
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Posted - 2012.06.14 13:17:00 -
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Andoria Thara wrote:I've figured it out. Goons and CCP have teamed up to prevent AFK miners from making enough ISK to plex their accounts each month.
Not enough isk from afk mining to plex all 10 of your accounts? I guess it's time to buy plex, subscribe, or cancel those bot accounts.
Why, absolutely every single person out there mining really isn't. You are so absolutely utterly correct. Want some ice cream ?
It's sososososo tooo tooo tooo true.
I think that God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability. In all matters of opinion, our adversaries are insane. ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900 |
RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
1885
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Posted - 2012.06.14 13:17:00 -
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Kali Memine wrote:Whatever you goons are smoking, I want some. 25M for 10 exhumers means 2.5M/exhumer ?! lol, you make this money by doing some fast t1 missions, no need to roam around for hours to find a lonely miner.
Mine more moons and come back with a better offer... or stop trolling the forums.
1/10
It's per Mining Barge. Exhumers are worth 10m. Besides that, not everything is about Isk/hr. This is EVE. -á Everybody Versus Everybody. |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3412
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Posted - 2012.06.14 13:26:00 -
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Kali Memine wrote:Whatever you goons are smoking, I want some. 25M for 10 exhumers means 2.5M/exhumer ?! lol, you make this money by doing some fast t1 missions, no need to roam around for hours to find a lonely miner.
Mine more moons and come back with a better offer... or stop trolling the forums.
1/10 As mentioned, this offer is not for people interested in isk per hour. This offer is to support those who play EVE in its best form, so they do not need to think about isk per hour. Regrettably we cannot increase the payouts or we risk people attempting to defraud the system, or we would happily do so. |
David Cedarbridge
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
233
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Posted - 2012.06.14 13:28:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Andoria Thara wrote:I've figured it out. Goons and CCP have teamed up to prevent AFK miners from making enough ISK to plex their accounts each month.
Not enough isk from afk mining to plex all 10 of your accounts? I guess it's time to buy plex, subscribe, or cancel those bot accounts. Before this day is over we will also be credited with the changes CCP are going to make to barges. It took about 5 posts in the thread actually. |
David Cedarbridge
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
233
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Posted - 2012.06.14 13:29:00 -
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Fabulousli Obvious wrote:Aryth wrote:It is also true that we often seek the most public and dramatic display of game mechanics we can find. Like making sure the Server Population Graph visibly makes evident a sharp plunge to the minimum possible population for server up-time viability. 9,000 sounds about right for that. You're pretty bad at reading graphs (among other things) huh? |
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Devilish Ledoux
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
99
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Posted - 2012.06.14 13:40:00 -
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I for one think comparing highsec miners to Jews in 1930s Germany is more accurate than not. Long scorned, but filling an important role in the economy (mining in Eve, moneylending in Europe) until some demagogue whips up popular sentiment against them. Their lives are made increasingly untenable until eventually, some eager adherents of the Leader decide to follow his ideas to their inevitable conclusion. Mass slaughter ensues.
There are just two problems with this theory. First, miners are not a race. Ganking a newbie miner isn't a hate crime; it's guidance counselling. Second, even if miners were utterly incapable of being anything other than miners, committing genocide against them is a perfectly legitimate gameplay tactic.
Suffer, nerds. |
NJDruid
Killer Carebears Inc.
2
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Posted - 2012.06.14 13:40:00 -
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Every miner just use a megathron or similar for a couple months . The whole thing will become very boreing for the suicide gankers and they will go back to playing their game I guess.
Another interesting fact I found on the interweb today was that one gram of king cobra venom can kill 50 people . |
Aldous Borrn
Cartographical Society of Gentleman Adventurers
15
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Posted - 2012.06.14 13:46:00 -
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Ana Fox wrote:hedge betts Shiyurida wrote:apologies I should said Yugoslavia conflict.
Mate I'm from Ireland not America, we spent 800 years under foreign occupation. We are also in the history book as having the longest active terrorist group. A group that in turn butchered and murdered innocent woman and children.
The point I was making was what goons are doing is comparable.
I admit I reacted bad ,so my apologies to you also.It is just really irritating when real life start to mix with something that is game.This whole idea of Goons is game.And we all need (well I am thinking that way) to look about it as just another event in sandbox.But if we start to make statements that are liking this events with real life things,many people can find that as insult.I will never say that people that I defended in your post are angels,but that dont have any with this game .That is place for other forums ,we are all playing this to get far away from those things not spread them even here. Anyway my apologies to you and rest of folks that read my post ,and ofc CCP for using their forums for that manner.
First, by no means am I saying these things are the same.
It is, obviously, true that this is a game. But behind the monitors are people. People that when presented with a scenario come up with scarily similar means of solving it as people in the real world. Yes, its only pixels being popped here, but the psychological tools and mob mentality are the same because in both areas its people. Well, except for all the bots.
Whether the goons are motivated by greed, arrogance, rage, or boredom is irrelevant (the cynical part of me feels they do it to pacify the horde so they won't start tearing each other apart). |
Fabulousli Obvious
State War Academy Caldari State
345
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Posted - 2012.06.14 13:47:00 -
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David Cedarbridge wrote: You're pretty bad at reading graphs (among other things) huh?
It's hilarious when people openly doubt and question their own words. I think that God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability. In all matters of opinion, our adversaries are insane. ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900 |
RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
1885
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Posted - 2012.06.14 13:49:00 -
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Devilish Ledoux wrote: There are just two problems with this theory. First, miners are not a race. Ganking a newbie miner isn't a hate crime; it's guidance counselling. Second, even if miners were utterly incapable of being anything other than miners, committing genocide against them is a perfectly legitimate gameplay tactic.
Suffer, nerds.
This. EvE is not a nice place. People will be mean to you. That's intended.
"EVE isn't designed to just look like a cold, dark and harsh world, it's designed to be a cold, dark and harsh world." --CCP Wrangler This is EVE. -á Everybody Versus Everybody. |
Indahmawar Fazmarai
804
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Posted - 2012.06.14 13:49:00 -
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Things are going well, i just hope CCP won't spoil them. EVE is Serious Business: You shall not feel entitled to being allowed to play EVE just because you are paying it. |
Ban Bindy
Bindy Brothers Pottery Association
353
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Posted - 2012.06.14 14:52:00 -
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Wonderful. More Goon ego at work, making sure we all know about Goonswarm and their need to play at fake hatred to get more attention. OP probably achieved a rare erection after this post. |
Aramatheia
European Nuthouse
40
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Posted - 2012.06.14 15:17:00 -
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guidance counselling for what though? How to tank a covetor properly? thats not possible, you cant they cant even fit a dcu i have shield skills at maximum and i still only have 5000 hp in one. T1 barges mine for less than a hulk, so they should since they are easier to train into and cost alot less. You get what you paid for, weak hull, lower yield.
Its pretty much understood theres a dislike for mining, i accept that but waging war on accounts possibly as young as 2 weeks now simply because they elected to partake in a different part of the game? Hulkageddon is good, but i dont see bargageddon going quite so well when 2 week old noobs in rookie chat start finding thier retrievers going over and over, that isnt "counselling"
Completely off topic question though. How do i check what a ship has fitted, what mod do i need? and doing such an act doesnt cause aggro or anything right? |
Temple Priest
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.06.14 15:25:00 -
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thank you GSF and corestwo
by any chance does someone know of any gank crews looking for more DPS? or other solo gankers looking to group up? my lowly 2 week alt can't take down the tastier stuff alone |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3417
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Posted - 2012.06.14 15:45:00 -
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Temple Priest wrote:thank you GSF and corestwo by any chance does someone know of any gank crews looking for more DPS? or other solo gankers looking to group up? my lowly 2 week alt can't take down the tastier stuff alone Well, you should be able to take down covetors while you skill up. It'll give you some good practice. |
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Temple Priest
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.06.14 15:48:00 -
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Weaselior wrote:Temple Priest wrote:thank you GSF and corestwo by any chance does someone know of any gank crews looking for more DPS? or other solo gankers looking to group up? my lowly 2 week alt can't take down the tastier stuff alone Well, you should be able to take down covetors while you skill up. It'll give you some good practice. but i want it NOW |
Area Charante
Robotic Industries
0
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Posted - 2012.06.14 16:01:00 -
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Oh goonies i love you. <3
http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=72890 |
Barbelo Valentinian
The Scope Gallente Federation
318
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Posted - 2012.06.14 16:10:00 -
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hedge betts Shiyurida wrote:Quote: I said **** parallels then told you why the words were censored.
but that's just it. Goons have initiated the final solution against high sec miners. It is no different, yes it is a game but singling out and systematicly eradicating one type of player is no different from what went on in WWII, what the Serbs done or what ****** done to the curds. Eradication of a single type of player is comparable to any genocide that took place in world history.
BWAHAHAHAHA, best troll post of the season, 10/10, especially for "curds". |
No More Heroes
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
629
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Posted - 2012.06.14 16:11:00 -
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That pretty much debunks the hundreds of myths perpetuated furiously about a GSF-CCP connection.
Time to put away your tinfoil hats guys. . |
Aramatheia
European Nuthouse
41
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Posted - 2012.06.14 16:19:00 -
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if only mining involved more than locking up as many rocks as you have beams (or your ships limit), activating your beams, and watching the ore flow in.
I'd love a good thread for brainstorming ideas to make it interactive, less bot friendly, and perhaps make it more interesting too for ppl who wish to oppose/kill mining ops. I mean surely a 7 second barge bash cant be all that exhilarating, even if the killer is anti miner |
Katja Faith
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
146
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Posted - 2012.06.14 16:22:00 -
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tl;dr
*yawn*
Posting, yet again, in a Goonie thread in GD. |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3423
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Posted - 2012.06.14 16:23:00 -
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Aramatheia wrote: I'd love a good thread for brainstorming ideas to make it interactive, less bot friendly, and perhaps make it more interesting too for ppl who wish to oppose/kill mining ops. I mean surely a 7 second barge bash cant be all that exhilarating, even if the killer is anti miner
It is, it really really is. |
hedge betts Shiyurida
State War Academy Caldari State
25
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Posted - 2012.06.14 16:23:00 -
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Aramatheia wrote:guidance counselling for what though? How to tank a covetor you shouldn't have to tank one or a hulk. It's a mining ship.
Do you think BP or Shell half fill their ship just incase they sink, no they brim the sh!te out of them and get the oil to market a fast as possible.
Cup the balls, and work the shaft |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3424
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Posted - 2012.06.14 16:26:00 -
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hedge betts Shiyurida wrote:Aramatheia wrote:guidance counselling for what though? How to tank a covetor you shouldn't have to tank one or a hulk. It's a mining ship. Do you think BP or Shell half fill their ship just incase they sink, no they brim the sh!te out of them and get the oil to market a fast as possible. they do when they pass somalia! |
Katja Faith
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
146
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Posted - 2012.06.14 16:27:00 -
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Aramatheia wrote:I mean surely a 7 second barge bash cant be all that exhilarating, even if the killer is anti miner
People with ADD and "other issues" living in mommy's basement need quick fixes for their attention illnesses. This comes with ganking in EveO. |
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