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Aphoxakhan
Minmatar Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.11.11 00:41:00 -
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Tip toe, the slaughter creeps closer. This madness will be ejected in moments. We feel the world shudder as the serpent crumbles away.
Terror in the sighs.
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steveid
Helljumpers
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Posted - 2009.11.11 02:57:00 -
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No.Mercy are cool folks and while we miss their cotton socks my only regret is that we didn't join them in the war decs.
Hearing this sorry excuse for a smear thread crowing about piracy after the final stand(period)'s disastrous attempt at killing the younglings in eve-uni leaves a very sour taste.
Look unto yourself before you criticize others. Inappropriate signature removed. Zymurgist |
BloodSoaked Goddess
Amarr THE FINAL STAND The Final Stand.
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Posted - 2009.11.11 04:51:00 -
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Originally by: steveid No.Mercy are cool folks and while we miss their cotton socks my only regret is that we didn't join them in the war decs.
Hearing this sorry excuse for a smear thread crowing about piracy after the final stand(period)'s disastrous attempt at killing the younglings in eve-uni leaves a very sour taste.
Look unto yourself before you criticize others.
You are hardly in a position to be judging anything considering your poor excuse for a corporation couldnt hack it in a system that doesnt require sovereignty to actually remain in it out in nullsec. Your napfest was obliterated by your leaderships incapacity to actually make informed and decent decisions in regards to who you napped and in the end you were run out of the system by the most incompetent opponent we have fought in nullsec to date.
Maru Ka'ge...... =/
Asa for Eve-Uni, they supported and encouraged our war dec for their own training purposes... So maybe get your facts straight in the future?
The fact is that we engaged their huge 80 man fleets with more ewar in them than we had ships and still came out respectably. They didnt fight us in frigates and a simple browse of our data records would show you that (so try doing more homework?)
They bought out their battleship pilots and their ewar and unlike a cowardly corporation such as yourself or No.Mercy... We engaged on our own with less than ten pilots every time.
The day your pathetic corporation or any other Amarrian fleet does that is the day I will hang up my pilots license....
ie: Never..
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Ol'summer bedLinen
Amarr The Lost Legion
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Posted - 2009.11.11 07:09:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantine
Originally by: Nur AlHuda Interesting part for me how Final Stand claims No Mercy are cowards and chest beaters and yet as alliance they were not able to put single corp down and suffered heavy losses to that corp. (Using public and private records comparison.)
Would you care to comment on 24th Crusade Amarrian Loyalist Corps using access to Providence via the CVA's citadal intel channel to bounty hunt for sec gains so they can access Amarrian hisec and wardec neutral industial corps for the express intent of stealing their POS modules for funding?
i'm there to rat for sec status so that I can continue going gcc on your alliance.
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Kazzzi
Amarr Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.11.11 09:06:00 -
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Originally by: Rathion
So your accusing someone of Piracy because they are perpatrating a LEGAL outbound war dec?
Last time I checked shooting Official Concord War Dec's ships or POS's is not Piracy.
CONCORD is a corrupt organization which will grant anyone's request to engage in sanctioned piracy for just a few mere isk.
Originally by: Nur AlHuda If someone is your political enemy doesnt immidiately means he is also pirate...
I wish everyone here would please read this^. It's an easy to grasp concept which there seems to be much confusion regarding lately.
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steveid
Helljumpers
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Posted - 2009.11.11 22:52:00 -
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Originally by: BloodSoaked Goddess
Originally by: steveid No.Mercy are cool folks and while we miss their cotton socks my only regret is that we didn't join them in the war decs.
Hearing this sorry excuse for a smear thread crowing about piracy after the final stand(period)'s disastrous attempt at killing the younglings in eve-uni leaves a very sour taste.
Look unto yourself before you criticize others.
You are hardly in a position to be judging anything considering your poor excuse for a corporation couldnt hack it in a system that doesnt require sovereignty to actually remain in it out in nullsec. Your napfest was obliterated by your leaderships incapacity to actually make informed and decent decisions in regards to who you napped and in the end you were run out of the system by the most incompetent opponent we have fought in nullsec to date.
Maru Ka'ge...... =/
Asa for Eve-Uni, they supported and encouraged our war dec for their own training purposes... So maybe get your facts straight in the future?
The fact is that we engaged their huge 80 man fleets with more ewar in them than we had ships and still came out respectably. They didnt fight us in frigates and a simple browse of our data records would show you that (so try doing more homework?)
They bought out their battleship pilots and their ewar and unlike a cowardly corporation such as yourself or No.Mercy... We engaged on our own with less than ten pilots every time.
The day your pathetic corporation or any other Amarrian fleet does that is the day I will hang up my pilots license....
ie: Never..
U mad? Inappropriate signature removed. Zymurgist |
Tomahawk Bliss
Minmatar Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.11.12 00:16:00 -
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Originally by: steveid
U mad?
complete, absolute, total and epic Fail. |
Nano J
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Posted - 2009.11.12 07:03:00 -
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Originally by: Tomahawk Bliss
Originally by: steveid
U mad?
complete, absolute, total and epic Fail.
seconded
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Elminatrix
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Posted - 2009.11.12 21:54:00 -
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Hi,
I've been aware of No Mercy CEO nomination for Amarian RP Player of the year and i got prove that they pirated my alliance by wardecing us in high sec and killing a pos from section VI corp and with those intel report of wardecing someone to make isk is pure pirating they do not deserve ths right to be amarrian RP and if you see they killed mostly freighter in this wardec so by definition they are pirate but just with access to high sec legaly and i officially request the competant person in charge of that award to erase him from any nomination and get him out of CVA space asap
thanks
Elminatrix
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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.11.12 23:24:00 -
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Originally by: Ol'summer bedLinen i'm there to rat for sec status so that I can continue going gcc on your alliance.
I appreciate this initiative and urge you to bring more drakes for us to kill.
True Knowledge |
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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.11.12 23:26:00 -
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Originally by: Elminatrix Hi,
I've been aware of No Mercy CEO nomination for Amarian of the year and i got prove that they pirated my alliance by wardecing us in high sec and killing a statoin from section VI corp and with those intel report of wardecing someone to make isk is pure pirating they do not deserve ths right to be amarrian and if you see they killed mostly freighter in this wardec so by definition they are pirate but just with access to high sec legaly and i officially request the competant person in charge of that award to erase him from any nomination and get him out of CVA space asap
thanks
OOC Removed. Zymurgist Elminatrix
I think you may have the wrong thread to protest in try this one
Good luck though. I agree with you that No.Mercy declaring wardecs purely to "pirate" your hisec POS is pretty low and that if CVA had any principles they'd outlaw No.Mercy from their space for the deeds.
(of course being an Anarchist revolutionary convinced that CVA have no principles I'm not personally hopeful of them listening to your story with an open mind but it never hurts to try I suppose).
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2009.11.13 11:57:00 -
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Originally by: Elminatrix Hi,
I've been aware of No Mercy CEO nomination for Amarian of the year and i got prove that they pirated my alliance by wardecing us in high sec and killing a statoin from section VI corp and with those intel report of wardecing someone to make isk is pure pirating they do not deserve ths right to be amarrian and if you see they killed mostly freighter in this wardec so by definition they are pirate but just with access to high sec legaly and i officially request the competant person in charge of that award to erase him from any nomination and get him out of CVA space asap
Elminatrix
Feel free to contact me privately with your proof.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Nur AlHuda
Amarr Callide Vulpis
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Posted - 2009.11.14 09:29:00 -
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Personaly i think there is no proof what so ever as so far there were provided 0 facts.
No screens, no witnesses, no internal communications.
Only one so called "proof" was given and anyone can write the same stuff couse it is not backed up by anythink.
Case closed.
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Jane Starr
The EVE Observer
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Posted - 2009.11.14 15:26:00 -
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Originally by: Nur AlHuda Personaly i think there is no proof what so ever as so far there were provided 0 facts.
No screens, no witnesses, no internal communications.
Only one so called "proof" was given and anyone can write the same stuff couse it is not backed up by anythink.
Case closed.
Proof has been verified in several locations including here:
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1212286&page=1#2 |
ChipMo
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.11.14 22:37:00 -
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Originally by: Jane Starr
Proof has been verified in several locations including here:
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1212286&page=1#2
Our friend Ms AlHuda has a severe case of Ostrich Syndrome I'm afraid.
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Nur AlHuda
Amarr Callide Vulpis
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Posted - 2009.11.15 12:40:00 -
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Originally by: Jane Starr
Originally by: Nur AlHuda Personaly i think there is no proof what so ever as so far there were provided 0 facts.
No screens, no witnesses, no internal communications.
Only one so called "proof" was given and anyone can write the same stuff couse it is not backed up by anythink.
Case closed.
Proof has been verified in several locations including here:
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1212286&page=1#2
That is no proof as it doesnt describe any illegal activity just a legal concord war declaration. And i think it was picture number 3 it is mentioned stand against piracy and raids in 0.0
Proof is considered somethink illegal such as criminal activity. The pictures doesnt show anythink like that and therefore cannot be considered proof as you are the only one explaining it as such. Of course if Eve Observer doesnt respect authority of Concord sanctioned war then its completly different discussion. |
Kazzzi
Amarr Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.11.15 13:02:00 -
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Edited by: Kazzzi on 15/11/2009 13:03:46
Originally by: Nur AlHuda
That is no proof as it doesnt describe any illegal activity just a legal concord war declaration. And i think it was picture number 3 it is mentioned stand against piracy and raids in 0.0
Proof is considered somethink illegal such as criminal activity. The pictures doesnt show anythink like that and therefore cannot be considered proof as you are the only one explaining it as such. Of course if Eve Observer doesnt respect authority of Concord sanctioned war then its completly different discussion.
The blessings of CONCORD are irrelevant. Even a pirate can bribe them to look the other way for a week. What matters is political standings. Attacking neutrals with or without CONCORD approval in Amarrian sovereign space is supposedly frowned upon by groups such as CVA, 1PG and PIE Inc.
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Insa Rexion
Minmatar CTRL-Q
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Posted - 2009.11.15 14:37:00 -
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Edited by: Insa Rexion on 15/11/2009 14:38:54 Edited by: Insa Rexion on 15/11/2009 14:37:11
Originally by: Nur AlHuda
Originally by: Jane Starr
Originally by: Nur AlHuda Personaly i think there is no proof what so ever as so far there were provided 0 facts.
No screens, no witnesses, no internal communications.
Only one so called "proof" was given and anyone can write the same stuff couse it is not backed up by anythink.
Case closed.
Proof has been verified in several locations including here:
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1212286&page=1#2
That is no proof as it doesnt describe any illegal activity just a legal concord war declaration. And i think it was picture number 3 it is mentioned stand against piracy and raids in 0.0
Proof is considered somethink illegal such as criminal activity. The pictures doesnt show anythink like that and therefore cannot be considered proof as you are the only one explaining it as such. Of course if Eve Observer doesnt respect authority of Concord sanctioned war then its completly different discussion.
CONCORD will sanction almost any war for the correct fee, assuming this, it is the nature of the war you should be concerned with. By saying a CONCORD sanctioned war is OK you are saying ANY WAR is ok... that is a convenient sidestep.
By ur logic, No.Mercy could pay CONCORD, war dec Callide vulpis and it would be ok.
Looking at the nature of this war dec, we have evidence showing Garst referring to the war dec, the POS towers killed and looted and a representative of said corp confirming the same. I myself have seen archived records of those POS tower and ship kills, but the limitations of galnet mean I cannot post them here. I am sure you know where to look to find these records, but it's fairly clear you are trying very hard to see no impropriety in a situation that screams obvious piracy.
Meh it's all the same to us I guess, it's obvious that CVA and the Amarr are so enamored with the cheap victories Garst supplies that you will do anything to ignore the even cheaper tactics he uses against innocents in ur own space to finance them. This just confirm what we minmatar already know, defeating us is more important to you than the wellbeing of your own lower social echelons who you will gladly terrorize to defeat us.
They would be better off under our stewardship where they could be truly free.
I has 17 XBOX can I get sov ??
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Xiao Tek
Caldari Deus Imperiosus Acies
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Posted - 2009.11.16 09:48:00 -
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Originally by: Kazzzi
Originally by: Rodj Blake
There's a subtle difference between acting after witnessing an act of piracy and acting on the word of a known enemy of the Empire.
If a "known enemy of the Empire" becomes criminally flagged in order to attack an Imperial vessel, are they automatically considered to be a "pirate" in your opinion?
not in mine, Sec status is a currency to be spent, as and when neccessary, CONCORD sanctioned war mechanics can't and don't cover every situation.
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Jelosavich
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Posted - 2009.11.16 19:16:00 -
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Intel at the time of the wardec showed most corporations in the target alliance are based in either Caldari or Minmatar space. If they were only based in friendly territory, we would of course consider them servants of the Empire. Seeing as how they are unfortunately not, as they are in business with the slaves, we saw fit to remove the ships and modules in question and use the money to support the Amarr war effort. Should the Empress bless us with a larger fleet, we will consider returning for the rest of the rebel sympathizers.
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Tomahawk Bliss
Minmatar DAEDALUS X
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Posted - 2009.11.16 20:04:00 -
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Originally by: Jelosavich Intel at the time of the wardec showed most corporations in the target alliance are based in either Caldari or Minmatar space. If they were only based in friendly territory, we would of course consider them servants of the Empire. Seeing as how they are unfortunately not, as they are in business with the slaves, we saw fit to remove the ships and modules in question and use the money to support the Amarr war effort. Should the Empress bless us with a larger fleet, we will consider returning for the rest of the rebel sympathizers.
your opinion of the intelligence of the average IGS reader must be very low. You are a griefer corp, just deal with it.
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Jakiin
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Posted - 2009.11.17 03:15:00 -
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Originally by: Tomahawk Bliss your opinion of the intelligence of the average IGS reader must be very low. You are a griefer corp, just deal with it.
Assuming that the allegations are true, wouldn't this make them pirates rather than griefers? I'm sorry but this keeps bugging me, my understanding that griefers caused damage simply for the act of making another person suffer, where pirates caused damage in an attempt to gain resources.
Unless there's some alternate definition of which I am unaware. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Jakiin Holder Heir of the Kingdom 'Pacifist Reclaimer' |
ChipMo
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.11.17 04:54:00 -
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Originally by: Jakiin
Assuming that the allegations are true, wouldn't this make them pirates rather than griefers? I'm sorry but this keeps bugging me, my understanding that griefers caused damage simply for the act of making another person suffer, where pirates caused damage in an attempt to gain resources.
Unless there's some alternate definition of which I am unaware.
Little bit of both, a true pirate would ask for a ransom. These guys just destroy stuff a scavenge the leftovers. Either way, doesn't really conform with the classic Amarrian 'image' that they try to project.
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Jakiin
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Posted - 2009.11.17 05:22:00 -
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Originally by: ChipMo Little bit of both, a true pirate would ask for a ransom. These guys just destroy stuff a scavenge the leftovers.
I still think that it would be more an act of piracy than griefing, but all that's really just semantics I suppose.
Quote: Either way, doesn't really conform with the classic Amarrian 'image' that they try to project.
Fully agreed. If the allegations are true, then whether they are pirates or griefers they have violated several standards which the Faithful try to adhere to. It is one thing to destroy the enemies of the Lord, it is one thing to aim siege lasers at planets of the enemy and turn them into glass. It is an entirely different thing to attack neutral and friendly parties on one's own authority.
If they have done these things, then they are not true followers of Amarr. They are indeed hypocrites, they do indeed use the Faith and affiliation with the Empire as an excuse. They are all the things that our enemies claim us to be. And if there is any justice then the other Capsuleer organizations loyal to God will treat No.Mercy as such, regardless of past contributions to the war effort.
Merdaneth, a member of PIE, once said something which applies quite well to this situation.
Originally by: Merdaneth If your ideals don't start at home, they are not ideals. Ideals are not overruled by matters of practicality. What are your ideals worth if they can and will be overruled by practicality on a regular basis even in your own home? Ideals are the things you cling to even when its not practical.
So I suppose this is a test of the 24ths ideals. PIE, traditionally seen as the moral compass of the 24th, has yet to release any statements regarding this. Their worth will be proven soon, one way or another. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Jakiin Holder Heir of the Kingdom 'Pacifist Reclaimer' |
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