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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
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Posted - 2015.10.20 13:26:16 -
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Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Yuller wrote:Lets be honest. Saying GFD is not really flipping out. Second i think Adriel had drank 4 Mountain Dews and was calling targets like a madman and i was having a hard time keeping up with all the blinky red in the overview. Third and Adriel was getting weird there in the end making all the pew pew noises while calling targets. Making Pew Pew noises while target calling? Come on you gotta get us all this audio now plllzzzz
We are probably the most unreasonable and flagrantly unprofessional alliance in highsec. We continuously do dumb stuff and trash talk each other in the middle of space battles. Some of us struggle to put ammo into our guns, others don't put a scram on their proteus and I personally lock the pod with my guns hot and melt my guns on the daily.
However we still win, like all of the time. God only knows what you other guys must be doing. |
Spruillo
Spruillo Corp
39
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Posted - 2015.10.20 13:46:44 -
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Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Yuller wrote:Lets be honest. Saying GFD is not really flipping out. Second i think Adriel had drank 4 Mountain Dews and was calling targets like a madman and i was having a hard time keeping up with all the blinky red in the overview. Third and Adriel was getting weird there in the end making all the pew pew noises while calling targets. Making Pew Pew noises while target calling? Come on you gotta get us all this audio now plllzzzz
Thats cocaine an coffee obvious. I would gbt faction war if he was public fleet fc . I contacted them about a carrier held ina small pos in c1 hisec static wh I found by cross referrencing km's and they never replied dissapiont
PLAYIN SPACE TRUCKS VROOM VROOM
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Adriel Malakai
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
605
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Posted - 2015.10.20 14:32:34 -
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Yuller wrote:Lets be honest. Saying GFD is not really flipping out. Second i think Adriel had drank 4 Mountain Dews and was calling targets like a madman and i was having a hard time keeping up with all the blinky red in the overview. Third and Adriel was getting weird there in the end making all the pew pew noises while calling targets.
No Mountain Dew, not even coffee! Just the joy of having someone be ballsy enough to fight us in our HQ again! Sadly....that fight seemingly broke their spirit.
And yes, I made some amazing sound effects towards the end of the fight. I don't even remember doing it, but I was apparently rather pleased with our performance. The worst part of the whole thing is the new doctrine we dropped billions on after that fight that I don't think we'll get to use. |
Adriel Malakai
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
605
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Posted - 2015.10.20 14:34:42 -
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Spruillo wrote:Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Yuller wrote:Lets be honest. Saying GFD is not really flipping out. Second i think Adriel had drank 4 Mountain Dews and was calling targets like a madman and i was having a hard time keeping up with all the blinky red in the overview. Third and Adriel was getting weird there in the end making all the pew pew noises while calling targets. Making Pew Pew noises while target calling? Come on you gotta get us all this audio now plllzzzz Thats cocaine an coffee obvious. I would gbt faction war if he was public fleet fc . I contacted them about a carrier held ina small pos in c1 hisec static wh I found by cross referrencing km's and they never replied dissapiont
You probably caught us on one of our breaks - I generally don't reply to mails that are several weeks+ old when we come back. |
Spruillo
Spruillo Corp
39
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Posted - 2015.10.20 14:55:21 -
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Go die in fier Yall fail.
PLAYIN SPACE TRUCKS VROOM VROOM
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Adriel Malakai
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
605
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Posted - 2015.10.25 02:17:07 -
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Tastes like victory to me.
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Mike Adoulin
Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters
1485
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Posted - 2015.10.25 11:38:27 -
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I like how that single marauder kill is almost worth around 40% of all the BC's they lost......
Also....
wow. Really? Folding up shop because they got their butts kicked by a hisec merc alliance?
Sounds pretty lame to me.
If true, however, they will be missed......they were one of the few groups around that you could point the newbro's at and say 'Join them or die mining.'
Everything in EVE is a trap.
And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)
You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.
Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.
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Aoife Fraoch
Rabble Inc. Rabble Alliance
192
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Posted - 2015.10.25 12:25:19 -
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Mike Adoulin wrote:I like how that single marauder kill is almost worth around 40% of all the BC's they lost......
Also....
wow. Really? Folding up shop because they got their butts kicked by a hisec merc alliance?
Sounds pretty lame to me.
If true, however, they will be missed......they were one of the few groups around that you could point the newbro's at and say 'Join them or die mining.'
I would be surprised if they are closing down due to a war, no matter the result. Speaking from complete ignorance I would have thought that it was a few key personal burning out. It could not have been a small task keeping Red v Blue running.
I do hope they come back, they were a good way to get started in small gang fights with experienced players.
That was some war though. |
Nerath Naaris
Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy
1045
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Posted - 2015.10.25 14:37:32 -
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Aoife Fraoch wrote:Mike Adoulin wrote:I like how that single marauder kill is almost worth around 40% of all the BC's they lost......
Also....
wow. Really? Folding up shop because they got their butts kicked by a hisec merc alliance?
Sounds pretty lame to me.
If true, however, they will be missed......they were one of the few groups around that you could point the newbro's at and say 'Join them or die mining.'
I would be surprised if they are closing down due to a war, no matter the result. Speaking from complete ignorance I would have thought that it was a few key personal burning out. It could not have been a small task keeping Red v Blue running. I do hope they come back, they were a good way to get started in small gang fights with experienced players. That was some war though.
Certainly not from one lost battle, rather a constant drop of activity that went on for quite some time now. Add to that the workload for the directors. As it is, RvB isn-Št closing shop as such, just suspending all activities beyond the basic Blow-Each-Other-Up, which is still the main purpose of RvB, though. What comes out of that remains to be seen....
Forum-unbanned since 2011.10.20.
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Ju0ZaS
Mentally Assured Destruction The Pursuit of Happiness
103
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Posted - 2015.10.25 15:58:29 -
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Good video.
Are you going to fight me or do you expect to bore me to death with your forum pvp?
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Rusty DP
The Filthy Few Break-A-Wish Foundation
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Posted - 2015.10.25 16:57:35 -
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Certainly not from one battle. But one cannot overlook the fact that RVB went from massive 70 man combined Red and Blue fleets week one, scoring a few successful hits against our logistics.
To BAW steadily picking RVB off one by one, whilst forming up, running missions and being reckless...
To later in the week, BAW utterly defeating their 40 man fleets during 1-2 hour fights with 10 - 15 man fleets. (equal to close number of logistics, in case you where wondering).
Ultimately leading to Red refusing to ally in with Blues (for fear of losses I might add) and leaving Blues to be picked off and muster trivially defeated kitchen sink fleets.
Which leads us to today - RVB will not form up and fight no matter what the odds or circumstance. RVB still continues to killboard pad each other (close to the station) but will mostly dock and log if even one of BAW comes within one jump. Resulting in massive RVB membership disgruntlement and members simply not playing or leaving.
On a personal note - Ive never understood the purpose of RVB. Ive heard the argument "Its for the new bros to learn PVP". But all I've seen from them, is the more experienced members massacring all the new players in Battlecruisers. Replacing the newbies crap fit ship and giving each other decorations..
Seems like a gameplay style better suited to the test server, but who am I to say....
I hope RVB rebuilds,reformats and has another go at it, its been an immensely challenging and entertaining war. |
Aoife Fraoch
Rabble Inc. Rabble Alliance
192
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Posted - 2015.10.25 20:03:14 -
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Rusty DP wrote:Certainly not from one battle. But one cannot overlook the fact that RVB went from massive 70 man combined Red and Blue fleets week one, scoring a few successful hits against our logistics.
To BAW steadily picking RVB off one by one, whilst forming up, running missions and being reckless...
To later in the week, BAW utterly defeating their 40 man fleets during 1-2 hour fights with 10 - 15 man fleets. (equal to close number of logistics, in case you where wondering).
Ultimately leading to Red refusing to ally in with Blues (for fear of losses I might add) and leaving Blues to be picked off and muster trivially defeated kitchen sink fleets.
Which leads us to today - RVB will not form up and fight no matter what the odds or circumstance. RVB still continues to killboard pad each other (close to the station) but will mostly dock and log if even one of BAW comes within one jump. Resulting in massive RVB membership disgruntlement and members simply not playing or leaving.
On a personal note - Ive never understood the purpose of RVB. Ive heard the argument "Its for the new bros to learn PVP". But all I've seen from them, is the more experienced members massacring all the new players in Battlecruisers. Replacing the newbies crap fit ship and giving each other decorations..
Seems like a gameplay style better suited to the test server, but who am I to say....
I hope RVB rebuilds,reformats and has another go at it, its been an immensely challenging and entertaining war.
Oh well that's a shame, especially the part where they stopped working together on the war. I enjoyed my time there playing in the AUTZ. It was a good introduction to small gang fights and working in a fleet. At least at the times I played I can't say I saw that many Battlecruises, it was mostly cruiser down.
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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
3475
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Posted - 2015.10.26 04:32:15 -
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RVB essentially had a leadership problem, a really, really bad leadership problem, but because they have a predetermined thing that they do that is sustainable so long as there are no new external factors they managed to coast on in spite of that.
When we showed up we put pressure on them that required serious decision making and problem solving ability that just wasn't present. The result was once their pre-existing responses of "throw old fleet doctrines at them" they had nothing else left and the failure cascade ensues. |
Rusty DP
The Filthy Few Break-A-Wish Foundation
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Posted - 2015.10.26 04:52:05 -
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At the end of the day:
Somebody made big bucks ! |
Angel Violette
The Filthy Few Break-A-Wish Foundation
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Posted - 2015.10.26 05:18:14 -
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After listening to their "Town Hall Meeting " Its apparent that the upper echelon just wants to wash their hands and walk away from these guys , and they did. And who can blame them ?? It was a lot of whining and Bitching ,
They did manage to get 40 people out of 6000 to attend the meeting ,Unfortunately 35 were spies .
F*cking up in New Eden since 2006
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Aoife Fraoch
Rabble Inc. Rabble Alliance
197
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Posted - 2015.10.26 09:03:30 -
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Vimsy Vortis wrote:RVB essentially had a leadership problem, a really, really bad leadership problem, but because they have a predetermined thing that they do that is sustainable so long as there are no new external factors they managed to coast on in spite of that.
When we showed up we put pressure on them that required serious decision making and problem solving ability that just wasn't present. The result was once their pre-existing responses of "throw old fleet doctrines at them" they had nothing else left and the failure cascade ensues.
It's also apparent that the current leadership is totally unwilling to hand off leadership to anyone willing to step up, stripping basically anyone not part of the elite "command" clique of roles while quitting corp themselves and transferring corporate roles to alts.
I don't hold anything against their general membership. After all they're just dudes who want to shoot each other, but the leadership is about as toxic and incompetent as it gets, most highsec mining corps have better, more responsible, less entitled people in charge.
Oh well, a bad end to a decent idea with some significant execution problems. |
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
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Posted - 2015.10.26 12:31:42 -
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The best part is we're only on phase 1 of 3. |
Saeger1737
Bite the pillow The Pursuit of Happiness
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Posted - 2015.10.26 18:45:21 -
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Vimsy Vortis wrote:The best part is we're only on phase 1 of 3. When do you get to the phase of making brownies again? |
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
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Posted - 2015.10.27 11:24:10 -
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There's just too much fun stuff happening right now for baking. Stuff like rvb leadership liquidating all the SRP assets while telling the members that everything is okay and brave collective swooping in like buzzards to poach the members while their corpse is still twitching. |
Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
2867
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Posted - 2015.10.27 11:42:41 -
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Vimsy Vortis wrote:There's just too much fun stuff happening right now for baking. Stuff like rvb leadership liquidating all the SRP assets while telling the members that everything is okay and brave collective swooping in like buzzards to poach the members while their corpse is still twitching. This can only mean one thing...... kill them all !
DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !
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Noragen Neirfallas
Rabble Inc. Rabble Alliance
2202
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Posted - 2015.10.27 11:54:41 -
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Lol send em my way ;-)
Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment
Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode favourite ISD
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Aoife Fraoch
Rabble Inc. Rabble Alliance
210
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Posted - 2015.10.27 12:02:06 -
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Vimsy Vortis wrote:There's just too much fun stuff happening right now for baking. Stuff like rvb leadership liquidating all the SRP assets while telling the members that everything is okay and brave collective swooping in like buzzards to poach the members while their corpse is still twitching.
Ouch, now that sounds like a pretty comprehensive failure state. |
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
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Posted - 2015.10.27 16:30:21 -
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It's going to be interesting to find out exactly what they're trying to do with their POCOs. They seem to be trying to transfer their ownership somewhere, but there's no obvious final destination, which is leading me to believe someone might br trying to nab a few weeks of POCO income for their personal wallet, the other explanation would be that theres another large group (the obvious candidate would be brave since they seem to be all over rvb).
We weren't initially particularly interested in them but RVB have been willing to screw over there members super hard to avoid losing them, so obviously they're worth taking, even if only to deprive them of it. |
Zeus Maximo
Mentally Assured Destruction The Pursuit of Happiness
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Posted - 2015.10.27 23:59:03 -
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I was disappointed when I heard all of the BRAVE talk in RvB comms. I'm all for the new bros but all of their ideas sounded like a recruitment scheme.
"You can bring the rvb corps into Brave" "You should move right next to Brave"
Its unfortunate RvB is taking the gutter but it is a necessary one. Far too long did the few use the many to acquire hundreds of poco's. Far too often did a few on the inside use the combined muscle to accomplish personal vendetta's on POS's in the area. Karma is a ***** and I'm happy she found her mark. I'm eager to see how many sponsors they burn and where drama stems to next.
Back to the main lesson: You know a fail cascade is coming when Brave is involved.
"It is not possible either to trick or escape the mind of Zeus."
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Yong Shin
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.10.28 05:29:17 -
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I'm surprised you are all so pleased RvB went down. Seems to me like high sec simply lost a valuable content creator and a beloved institution that actually catered to newbros. I sure hope BRAVE takes the lot of them in. |
Aoife Fraoch
Rabble Inc. Rabble Alliance
214
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Posted - 2015.10.28 09:06:40 -
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Yong Shin wrote:I'm surprised you are all so pleased RvB went down. Seems to me like high sec simply lost a valuable content creator and a beloved institution that actually catered to newbros. I sure hope BRAVE takes the lot of them in.
I am really of two minds. RvB was fun, I enjoyed it and got to do some PVP in a way that meant I got to learn from more experienced players. So in that, I am sad to see it go. On the other hand it is deeply concerning that in the end it was so fragile that it would implode in this fashion simply because (and I may be wrong but this is what it looks like) someone else decided to shoot at them and was not bad at it. |
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
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Posted - 2015.10.28 16:28:51 -
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RVB was already dead. Their uncommitted, impotent, self-aggrandizing leadership saw to that. All we did is show up and blow up their stuff. Despite overwhelming manpower their leadership wasn't able to organize and motivate a nearly 8000 man community to defend assets from and win fights against a group of twenty human beings.
If you make a huge, powerful, well funded entity, into something that can't withstand that kind of pressure then it needs to be destroyed. |
Yong Shin
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
54
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Posted - 2015.10.28 16:31:02 -
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Aoife Fraoch wrote:Yong Shin wrote:I'm surprised you are all so pleased RvB went down. Seems to me like high sec simply lost a valuable content creator and a beloved institution that actually catered to newbros. I sure hope BRAVE takes the lot of them in. I am really of two minds. RvB was fun, I enjoyed it and got to do some PVP in a way that meant I got to learn from more experienced players. So in that, I am sad to see it go. On the other hand it is deeply concerning that in the end it was so fragile that it would implode in this fashion simply because (and I may be wrong but this is what it looks like) someone else decided to shoot at them and was not bad at it.
I have no doubt BAW had a major role in putting on the pressure towards implosion, but from RvB's own posts on their own forums, as well as the ones on reddit (including many from their supporters), it seems plausible their going down was the result of ongoing problems in the general state of EVE currently.
There really doesn't seem to be many places left to steer new bros that I see on the CAS channel. E-Uni and RvB was where we used to send the ones that wanted to learn PvP in a mentoring environment.
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Yong Shin
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
54
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Posted - 2015.10.28 16:37:11 -
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Vimsy Vortis wrote:RVB was already dead. Their uncommitted, impotent, self-aggrandizing leadership saw to that. All we did is show up and blow up their stuff. Despite overwhelming manpower their leadership wasn't able to organize and motivate a nearly 8000 man community to defend assets from and win fights against a group of twenty human beings.
If you make a huge, powerful, well funded entity, into something that can't withstand that kind of pressure then it needs to be destroyed.
Hmm. When you put it like that, I'm inclined to agree. Was not aware they were 8,000 strong, and that your well-known organization is... 20 people. Expected at least 100. Learn something new everyday
Anywho if anyone does profit from their demise, it should be you guys so happy hunting |
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
3499
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Posted - 2015.10.28 16:47:55 -
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RVB combined is about 7900 characters. BAW is about 50, we've got inactives and alts in there too, we particularly have a lot of director alts.
I don't know that there are even 100 EVE players suitable to be in BAW.
We are kind of, uh, different. |
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