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Slapchop Gonnalovemynuts
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Posted - 2009.11.19 22:22:00 -
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Edited by: Slapchop Gonnalovemynuts on 19/11/2009 22:22:53 So as some may have noticed, I try to be active in this section of the forums and help out newbies in need. In my time here I have noticed a handful of dedicated people who are johnny-on-the-spot with good useful info for the inquisitive. I feel these people bear some recognition due to the fact that they help keep this section of the EVE-O forums a place where new people can truly come in and get helped. As such I asked Chribba if he could get a list of the top posters for this section so that we all can know who to give our thanks to. So without further ado...
Q&A Top 10 2009: Kahega Amielden Akita T Estel Arador Tranka Verrane Joe Starbreaker Ki Tarra Tau Cabalander Toshiro GreyHawk Louis deGuerre Gartel Reiman
Q&A Top 10 all time: Dark Shikari F'nog Matalino Letouk Mernel Gartel Reiman GC13 Asestorian Joe Starbreaker Marine HK4861 Baka Lakadaka
Many thanks to the people on this list, and to the others who, while maybe not making the top 10, surely post often and helfully.
Here is to Newbie Q&A staying (fairly) free of trolls and continuing to help people to understand this wonderful world we all play in.
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Joe Starbreaker
The Fighting Republicans
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Posted - 2009.11.19 22:34:00 -
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Hey hey! Look who's on both lists!
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Tau Cabalander
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.11.19 22:56:00 -
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Looks like I need to work harder... not on the forum, I mean at my job
I just like helping people, and EVE is so complex that everyone needs help with something sooner or later. Q&A is my favorite forum, because if I don't know the answer, I learn something too.
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Tranka Verrane
Public Venture Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.11.19 22:57:00 -
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Thanks for the nod: We try and help, and get things right first time, but generally it's nice that in this forum especially people are usually willing to correct well-meaning errors and add to the collective knowledge without (much) rancour. I inform where I can but I visit this forum mainly because you never stop learning this game, and I often learn new things here as much as anyone.
I have handed my forum posting on to an alt now; probably that takes me out of the running for entry into next years all-time list.
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Louis deGuerre
Gallente The Rise of The Dragon Knights Void Alliance
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Posted - 2009.11.19 23:03:00 -
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#9 I hope my boss doesn't find out what i do at work Sol: A microwarp drive? In a battleship? Are you insane? They arenĘt built for this! Clear Skies - The Movie ROTDK is recruiting
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Estel Arador
Minmatar AFK
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Posted - 2009.11.19 23:13:00 -
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Looks more like you posted a list of "who will reply to this thread first"
New Citizens Q&A is my favourite section (followed closely by Skills, of course ).
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Baka Lakadaka
Gallente Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2009.11.20 02:06:00 -
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All time Top 10, but not in the running for 2009.......looks like I'm slipping!
Thanks for the recognition.
I like helping new players......the better equipped and more knowledgable a new player is, the more likely they will stick around and help the game survive.
And thanks to all the others on the lists - I've learned lots from you as well. ______________________ Agony Unleashed is proud to support TeaDaze for CSM |
F'nog
Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. United Corporate Ventures
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Posted - 2009.11.20 06:36:00 -
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Originally by: Baka Lakadaka All time Top 10, but not in the running for 2009.......looks like I'm slipping!
Thanks for the recognition.
I like helping new players......the better equipped and more knowledgable a new player is, the more likely they will stick around and help the game survive.
And thanks to all the others on the lists - I've learned lots from you as well.
Me too. But that's probably my timezone and work schedule. By the time I read the forum most of the questions have already been answered, and with the new delay it's not worth wasting a post.
And congrats to Joe for being on both lists.
Also thanks for the recognition.
Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari
F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said
Originally by: Chribba Go F'nog! You're a hero! Not a Zero! /me bows
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Akita T
Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2009.11.20 06:42:00 -
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Toshiro GreyHawk
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Posted - 2009.11.20 18:44:00 -
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I am humbled to be mentioned in such esteemed company.
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Zartanic
Red Federation
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Posted - 2009.11.20 21:25:00 -
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You guys should form the CSM. No personal agenda, unlikely to be any corruption and an understanding of the whole game not just a small part of it.
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Kahega Amielden
Minmatar Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2009.11.20 22:04:00 -
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Holy crap. I didn't think I posted -that- much
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Joe Starbreaker
The Fighting Republicans
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Posted - 2009.11.20 22:15:00 -
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Originally by: Zartanic You guys should form the CSM. No personal agenda, unlikely to be any corruption and an understanding of the whole game not just a small part of it.
I'd have a hard time explaining to my doctoral committee how I found enough time to become an internet spaceship forum ***** while I was supposed to be working on a dissertation. But I must admit I have sometimes idly considered running on the Republican ticket in a future election.
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Toshiro GreyHawk
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Posted - 2009.11.24 03:46:00 -
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Originally by: Joe Starbreaker
Originally by: Zartanic You guys should form the CSM. No personal agenda, unlikely to be any corruption and an understanding of the whole game not just a small part of it.
I'd have a hard time explaining to my doctoral committee how I found enough time to become an internet spaceship forum ***** while I was supposed to be working on a dissertation. But I must admit I have sometimes idly considered running on the Republican ticket in a future election.
Ha! Ha!
Well I hope your dissertation gets you more money than my Thesis got me.
I didn't have any trouble explaining to my Committee why I was starting to work on an Engineering Degree and not applying to a PHD program in History some where.
"Could I get a job here?"
Was all I had to say. End of discussion.
But it worked out, even if I never finished that Engineering Degree. I found I liked being a tech guy better than being an academic anyway ... something about finding machines more enjoyable to work with than people ...
*shrug*
One of those things we learn about ourselves as we go along ... nope ... not a people person.
I still love History but like this Engineer said to me once - "You majored in your hobby" - and I was like " ... yeah ... that's about it ..." what I didn't think to say - was that my mistake wasn't majoring in my hobby - it was majoring in a hobby I couldn't make any money with. Ha! Ha! Computers are my hobby too!
Anyway - good luck with that.
I wrote my Thesis on a type writer ...
*sigh*
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Marine HK4861
Caldari State Protectorate
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Posted - 2009.11.24 19:37:00 -
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Originally by: Kahega Amielden Holy crap. I didn't think I posted -that- much
I second that...
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Latrodanes
Independent Combat Support Services
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Posted - 2009.11.24 23:17:00 -
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Congratz. I have only been around a little over a year, but I have learned a heck of a lot from each of you over that time. In turn, I have tried to pass on some of that knowledge and I have no idea how many times I have pointed other players to your threads, websites, and/or services. Bravo Zulu.
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Estel Arador
Minmatar AFK
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Posted - 2009.11.25 00:38:00 -
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Originally by: Toshiro GreyHawk I didn't have any trouble explaining to my Committee why I was starting to work on an Engineering Degree and not applying to a PHD program in History some where.
"Could I get a job here?"
Was all I had to say. End of discussion.
It was quite the same for me (also studied History). They had one position available, received about a hundred applications and ended up cancelling the position because of budget cuts before it even was filled. That's about when I decided to pursue another career
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Toshiro GreyHawk
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Posted - 2009.11.25 02:43:00 -
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Originally by: Estel Arador
Originally by: Toshiro GreyHawk I didn't have any trouble explaining to my Committee why I was starting to work on an Engineering Degree and not applying to a PHD program in History some where.
"Could I get a job here?"
Was all I had to say. End of discussion.
It was quite the same for me (also studied History). They had one position available, received about a hundred applications and ended up cancelling the position because of budget cuts before it even was filled. That's about when I decided to pursue another career
There a few other things with me besides just job availability - though that was the major factor.
It wasn't just that they didn't really have any jobs ... but that if they got one ... they were much less likely to give you Tenure than they had been. At the time (1980) they could hire 3 untenured professors for the price of 2 tenured ones ... so ... people would come up for tenure - and oops - didn't get it. Of course at that point - academia being the prestige driven institution that it is - once one place turned you down for tenure - you were highly unlikely to get it any where else ...
"Well of course you know ... that other school applying for this grant ... has accepted people for tenure that WE turned down ... *sniff*"
That and as a graduate student you start seeing a side of academia that you don't see as an undergrad. You spend more time going to functions with your professors and get to know them better as people. They aren't the all knowing pontiffs from your undergrad days ... they're just some guy who studied one area a lot ... and within YOUR area - you get to where you know more than THEY do. I was not impressed. I remember going to this one guys lecture a second time after a break of about six years - and it was the same damned lecture!!! He even had the same jokes in it. I thought - "My God! I don't want to be telling the same damn jokes for six years!" The other thing was ... the first time I heard that joke it was only moderately out of date - six years later ... it was like absurdly out of date, so far out of date that it refuted the point the guy had been trying to make with it - and yet it was still part of his lecture.
I had a bunch of friends going to Law School and took the LSAT a couple of times. My scores weren't good enough to get into the really great schools but they were good enough to get into a good school. The thing there was - I heard there was a coming glut of lawyers (boy was that ever true) and thought - "The last thing I need is another useless degree ..."
I'd thought about Engineering for about 30 seconds as an undergrad then cringed away at the thought of all that math ... but then I knew this girl who was an Engineer and I decided that if she could do it I could.
Then - having written all my papers including my Thesis on a Smith Corona Portable ... I and some friends typed up the published version on a S-100 bus Z-80 Micro and printed it on a Diablo Daisy Wheel Printer. I got back 8 pages of corrections from Thesis Review - and had them all done and the published copy (172 pages) printed out in 4 hours. Yes. Computers. "These things are all right" - said I - "I am going to get me one of these ..." and the rest ... as they say ... was history.
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rubico1337
Caldari Mnemonic Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.11.25 11:28:00 -
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out of the 17 replies to this thread. 16 of them are from people on that list
forum *****s, all of you
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Forranz
Malice. Tentative Nature
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Posted - 2009.11.25 11:56:00 -
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nice writeup Toshiro.. I decided to pick up Computer Science for the money and well.. it's fun.
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Slade Trillgon
Endless Possibilities Inc.
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Posted - 2009.11.25 12:01:00 -
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My goal daily is to respond to any thread in New Citizens that has already not recieved a response from one of the above mentioned individulas
To be serious close to 25% of my 4200 plus posts have been in New citizens. Most of those actually being helpfull posts and not me asking questions
But as has been mentioned by the OP there are a select few whose names are synonomous with New Citizens ans I throw out a hearty salute to all of those individuals for they are the ones that answered my questions in New Citizens back in 2007
Keep up the good work guys, many new players have been saved from the learnign curve due to you all.
Slade
Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker
Please go sit in the corner, and dont forget to don the shame-on-you-hat!
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Toshiro GreyHawk
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Posted - 2009.11.25 12:43:00 -
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Originally by: Forranz nice writeup Toshiro.. I decided to pick up Computer Science for the money and well.. it's fun.
Yeah ... I was lucky in that way too. I couldn't get a job with my first love but did with my second. When I first starting working as a programmer I couldn't believe that people were actually going to pay ME to work on computers when I would gladly have paid them for the privilege (or at least ... I would have if I'd had any money ...).
As to posting in this forum - I'm with Tranka in that I've easily learned more here than I've taught. If I know something - then if I didn't figure it out in game on my own (the hard way) I learned it here. And I am still learning. Not only that though - but I've often forgotten about something and reading it again here - helps refresh that memory.
And yes ... I guess we are a bunch of forum *****s ... Ha! Ha!
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Gartel Reiman
The Athiest Syndicate Advocated Destruction
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Posted - 2009.11.25 13:18:00 -
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Originally by: Kahega Amielden Holy crap. I didn't think I posted -that- much
Ditto - I'm surprised I'm on 2009's at all in fact.
But by the same token, I'm impressed at how accurate a proxy those lists are for actual helpfulness - everyone on those lists I recognise as people who will give reasoned, helpful answers (rather than merely spamming the forums). That's not to say that people who aren't on the lists don't of course. 'Twould be sad if there were only 10-20 people helping out here!
As with Tau, I like NCQ&A because there's generally less posturing and less epeen in the responses - and as well as being able to help someone out, a lot of the discussions are generally enlightening because a simple question can end up triggering an in-depth debate between experienced players even after the OP's question has been answered. It seems harder to get that in other forum sections because the context is a little more hostile, for want of a less inflammatory word.
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Forranz
Malice. Tentative Nature
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Posted - 2009.11.25 13:37:00 -
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My general thought is that people will troll in other forums but not this -- that's a good thing, because we should help the new players along rather than stop them when they're in the trial. The learning curve in eve is a strong one.
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Nikki Nightingale
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Posted - 2009.11.25 17:26:00 -
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I can say nothing but Hear, hear to the OP!
This forum has helped me alot, makes me feel that it's not just space that is incredibly large... but also the human warmth in the community.
Thanks all, NN
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Billy Sastard
Amarr Life. Universe. Everything.
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Posted - 2009.11.25 17:36:00 -
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Originally by: Gartel Reiman As with Tau, I like NCQ&A because there's generally less posturing and less epeen in the responses ... It seems harder to get that in other forum sections because the context is a little more hostile, for want of a less inflammatory word.
This.
I spend more time in this section of the forums than anywhere else for the same reasons. Back when I first started playing in 2005 the whole forum was more or less like this, so hanging out here makes it seem like there is still some of the old eve-o forums holding out.
Also, I must just barely be off that list as I am only a couple hundred posts off from the bottom people <-------------------------------------------------> "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." -Albert Einstein |
Joe Starbreaker
The Fighting Republicans
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Posted - 2009.11.25 17:43:00 -
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Originally by: Toshiro GreyHawk
Originally by: Joe Starbreaker
Originally by: Zartanic You guys should form the CSM. No personal agenda, unlikely to be any corruption and an understanding of the whole game not just a small part of it.
I'd have a hard time explaining to my doctoral committee how I found enough time to become an internet spaceship forum ***** while I was supposed to be working on a dissertation. But I must admit I have sometimes idly considered running on the Republican ticket in a future election.
Ha! Ha!
Well I hope your dissertation gets you more money than my Thesis got me.
Well, I'm in Information Systems, which is not the roughest field. On the one hand, the field is kind of an underdog in business schools, and has a hard time competing with strategy, marketing, accounting, finance, etc for resources. On the other hand, it's in the business school, and there's an actual paying market for our research and teaching. So I can be fairly sure of getting a good faculty job, or if that fails, maybe a job in industry.
I was one of those guys who rejected engineering as an undergraduate because it seemed too "nerdy" even though I would have thrived at it. I may end up being one of those IS professors that does hands-on design research instead of highly theoretical stuff. Who knows?
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Slade Trillgon
Endless Possibilities Inc.
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Posted - 2009.11.25 18:26:00 -
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Originally by: Forranz My general thought is that people will troll in other forums but not this -- that's a good thing, because we should help the new players along rather than stop them when they're in the trial. The learning curve in eve is a strong one.
Oh they try to troll, but I or one of the others mentioned above are quick to report trolling threads here and they get moved or closed very quickley.
Slade
Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker
Please go sit in the corner, and dont forget to don the shame-on-you-hat!
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Toshiro GreyHawk
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Posted - 2009.11.26 10:32:00 -
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Originally by: Joe Starbreaker ...
Well, I'm in Information Systems, which is not the roughest field. On the one hand, the field is kind of an underdog in business schools, and has a hard time competing with strategy, marketing, accounting, finance, etc for resources. On the other hand, it's in the business school, and there's an actual paying market for our research and teaching. So I can be fairly sure of getting a good faculty job, or if that fails, maybe a job in industry.
I was one of those guys who rejected engineering as an undergraduate because it seemed too "nerdy" even though I would have thrived at it. I may end up being one of those IS professors that does hands-on design research instead of highly theoretical stuff. Who knows?
Yeah. Who knows, is right. In my career I did all kinds of things it never even occurred to me I might be doing.
But it was a good career. I really couldn't have asked for better.
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Avo Daith
Mentors Administration
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Posted - 2009.11.26 14:44:00 -
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Originally by: Toshiro GreyHawk
I used to call out that they were trolls and report them but ... now I just recognize the signs and move on to another thread. Sadly - pointing out to others that they are being trolled doesn't seem to stop them from responding.
The trouble with just ignoring them is that it can give a false perspective to people just browsing the forum. It's best to call them out on their nonsense and that once being done, by someone, then move on. I would certainly agree they aren't worth arguing with. Call them out and then leave them to flap like a grounded eel.
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