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Hilder
Silver Snake Enterprise
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Posted - 2009.11.25 12:19:00 -
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a thousand times Yes!
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Baaldor
Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.11.25 18:20:00 -
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Originally by: Hel O'Ween Not supported!
If you want to be taken serious, choose your words accordingly. If you can't, you'd better stop playing this game and relieve this community from yourself. Your time is better spend in school, where you could learn all those non-insulting words, which would allow you to formulate your issue in a mature manner.
To be honest: if I had something to say in CCP, I'd not only kill those messages, but terminate their accounts and happily pay them back any outstanding subscription fee, just to get rid off these kindergarten kids.
It's a shame for everyone who is seriously articulating a very valid critic, but gets buried beneath mountains of swear words.
Seriously, guys. Grow up!
Not taking you seriously.
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Bfoster
The Python Cartel.
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Posted - 2009.11.25 19:23:00 -
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Its almost like the GM's moderate the forum too.. Its that bad! ------------
My Killboard- The Python Cartel |
Dr BattleSmith
PAX Interstellar Services
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Posted - 2009.11.25 23:44:00 -
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Originally by: Komi Toran no opinion as I have no idea what is prompting this, but some observations:
For those screaming "censorship": CCP is a private entity, and this forum is their property. Posting here is, therefore, a privilege, not a right
CCP has the right to have no customers also.
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Bel'shamharoth
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Posted - 2009.11.26 06:45:00 -
[125]
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'm not a fig plucker or a fig plucker's son, but I'll pluck figs till the fig plucking's done. |
Erati
Reluctant Warriors
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Posted - 2009.11.27 10:35:00 -
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Edited by: Erati on 27/11/2009 10:35:19
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Cailais
Diablo Advocatus
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Posted - 2009.11.29 20:20:00 -
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Originally by: Capa So if you wake up one morning and it's a particularly beautiful day, you'll know we made it.
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New ones
Koln united
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Posted - 2009.12.02 00:21:00 -
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it's a lot bether now..
CCP is not saying ANYTHING if you say somthing bad about changes...
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Big Bit
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Posted - 2009.12.02 21:23:00 -
[129]
Time Flux Detected You are going too fast! Wait five minutes and try again. Go back One page | Go back to forums
WTF?
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Sokratesz
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Posted - 2009.12.08 19:58:00 -
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After seeing applebabe go berserk recently deleting all posts that linked to the instapopped Nyx mail, I agree.
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Mike Azariah
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Posted - 2009.12.08 20:41:00 -
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while some of the deletions were valid . . . how many times do you want to read 'free abuthur'? It did look like a few babies got thrown out with the bathwater
mike
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Hellfury Resurrected
Incura HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2009.12.09 05:39:00 -
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Originally by: Mrs Trzzbk The moderation of this forum has always been out of control and heavy-handed, and it has never been accountable to anybody.
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Corian Teranos
Critical Mass Inc. Symbiogenesis
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Posted - 2009.12.13 19:08:00 -
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supported though instead of removing censoring alltogether there should be a forum option to turn it on and off.
:Its all fun and games untill your logistics guy tries passive tanking his raven: |
C4LYP50
Solarwind Interstellar Mining and Production Ltd
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Posted - 2009.12.14 12:22:00 -
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Originally by: ndal This I can not support.
The forum has rules if people donĘt want to follow them then they can post elsewhere. The rules are made clear and if you fail to follow them then your post should be deleted to save anyone else the trouble of having to read it, if you want your point to be heard then post within the rules. If anything I feel the moderators are too lenient in their enforcing of the rules.
This. Flametards are given WAY too much slack as it is. People usually come to these forums ONCE to ask advice or seek help. After they've been jumped all over and made to feel like idiots for asking anything, they usually don't return. When I do find the occasional informative post (/waves to Akita T), I usually just copy/paste to our own forums (giving credit, of course) because its difficult to get folks to come here and wade through the BS. The forums are CCP's, not a god-given right to carry on in game smacking via internet anonymity.
Originally by: lord cyrez
posts worth for *at least* 10+ pages have been deleted. admittedly, quite a bunch of them were just quotes with little additional content - but:
even these "empty quotes" serve a purpose. they carry on valueable arguments to players not reading a xx+ pages thread. most skip to the last page(s) - and there they see the quotes from others, containing (usually) solid points and suggestions.
but..........but nothing. If people wouldn't pyramid quote 10 others, the threads wouldn't GET TO xx pages long. We could all just read the original posts, and not skip to the end. Again, IMHO, the problem lies with the tactics used by posters, not the forum rules.
Not supported, until I see some self control around here. kthxbai.
Brunette By Birth...........Blonde By Nature. ------------------------------------------------ "Your suffering will be legendary, even in Hell." "No tears, please; it's a waste of good suffering." |
Dante Edmundo
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Posted - 2009.12.22 15:23:00 -
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I also support the idea of having some kind of option to click on or off posts CCP has deemed offensive or perhaps to strong in language.
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Mara Rinn
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Posted - 2009.12.22 22:39:00 -
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Originally by: Sokratesz After seeing applebabe go berserk recently deleting all posts that linked to the instapopped Nyx mail, I agree.
So a forum moderator removing kill mail links from forums in which killmail links are not allowed, is censorship? I would have called that forum moderation.
I suppose the rest of the censorship you folk are talking about is the moderators removing troll & spam threads from GD? OMG! Call in the National Guard!
Does anyone have links to EVE-Search copies of posts that have been deleted, which don't violate the forum posting guidelines? [Aussie players: join channel ANZAC] |
Nanaho Jin'rah
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Posted - 2009.12.23 15:52:00 -
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Originally by: Honest Smedley I disagree.
The last few devblog threads have been overwhelmingly filled with 'town hell' style self-interested folks exaggerating, making self-righteous demands and frankly, being *******s. I fully support filtering out the ****posting and banning the *******s to make rational debate easier to follow.
This, the mass majority of posts on these forumns are from 12yr olds threatining to not play anymore cause CCP changed a slot on a ship or demand their 20c back cause downtime was extended for an hour. Most of them also happen to be american and wine alot about their rights and free speech.
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Lee Dalton
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2009.12.23 15:55:00 -
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I think the best solution is to remove the rule banning the discussion of forum moderation. ;) *** You're only as good as your last fight. |
Johnny Yakuza
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Posted - 2009.12.23 19:32:00 -
[139]
Supported. |
Aloriana Jacques
Amarr Royal Amarr Institute
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Posted - 2009.12.24 03:52:00 -
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Not supported.
Most of the removals in question seem to have been done because of rule violations, or fruits thereof. Not to mention the flaming, the whining, and the total lack of restraint or non-constructive behaviour.
Will some perfectly okay posts get deleted in the process when there's a mass removal? Yes. It happens. Those who feel strongly about it and that there posts were unjustly removed should simply post again.
Above all else, it's CCP's forums and they can do whatever they like. People who don't want to follow the rules can move to the unofficial boards and sites that are outside of CCP's purview.
And yes, I have had posts removed in the past, some that made sense and others that didn't. But it's no reason to get in a tizzy about it. Now, when every single negative comment on these boards mysteriously disappears, then you can start worrying. - - - Aloriana Jacques - Skill Sheet
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Emma Royd
Caldari Maddled Gommerils
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Posted - 2009.12.24 21:24:00 -
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Censorship is necessary but control of censorship is more so.
I've seen far too much lately, ccp always seem unwilling to take criticism or accept that something went wrong, this is nothing new, but ... tinfoilhat on ... it seems like they've now got active word filtering that flashes lights and sounds alarms as soon as something is posted on the forum they don't like and the nerfbat swings down hard.
As many have said before, it puts people off using the forum when they see swathes of moderation and then people complaining about the moderation also get moderated, it's almost comical and looks very unprofessional.
Instead of moderating, the devs need to look at the complaint, and answer as best they can instead of deleting posts.
CCP - only 1 C away from communism the way they're acting.
Grow a set ccp, accept that not everything is peachy with the game, fix the problems and speak to the people who pay your wages.
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Cyprus Black
Cowboy Diplomacy
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Posted - 2009.12.28 21:46:00 -
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It's threads like these which reinforce the notion that forum moderators are inappropriately overcensoring everything.
Who watches the watchers?
Apparently nobody and that's troubling. Forum moderators should know better. There needs to be oversight. ___________________________________ "In the land of predators, the lion does not fear the jackal." -Dexter |
Bagehi
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises Gentlemen's Club
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Posted - 2009.12.28 22:53:00 -
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Edited by: Bagehi on 28/12/2009 22:53:58 There have been mass deletions and locks in threads critical of CCP in the past (waiting to see what happens with this one).
The killmail didn't need to be posted, just some simple math (dd > mom ehp).
But the bigger issue is that despite CSM, CCP has ignored some of the concerns that have been raised - or said something like "too big, can't fix".
While communication between CCP and the players is better, it has a lot of room for improvement. I would be okay with this kind of moderation if CCP would direct people to an official response to an issue being raised when they lock a threadnought:
"We understand your concerns. We have assigned x devs to solve this problem. It is now listed in Known Issues. CCP Nozh will post a Dev Blog by xyz date with what we know about the issue and what we are doing to address it."
Customer Service 101: Even if you don't give a ****, if you sound like you care, customers will give you much more latitude.
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Hot Tubes
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2009.12.29 12:54:00 -
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Free **********!
By banning the name of a character (I typed above) instrumental in uncovering the whole nasty BoB related events a while ago it's made ccp reek of a quasi fascist stance on controlling their customers' voices. Unfortunately this still goes on.
When the player base rises en masse against a single topic instead of responding quickly and openly they are more likely to mass delete every post and thread concerning the issue in the hope it will simply go away. It's sometimes pretty scary/depressing seeing it go on.
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NereSky
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2009.12.29 13:21:00 -
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Not supported - if it wasnt for the mods the Forums would be chaotic and out of control,
I would support a more open forums however knowing the majority of the forum users it would be abused and misused and therefore would need moderation,
perma ban the forum misusers and maybe it could become a better enviroment
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Sator deHarak
Shut Up And Play WE FORM VOLTRON
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Posted - 2009.12.29 16:58:00 -
[146]
Agreed, I'd support this with more, but I currently an unable to for replicating a thread of mine that was deemed permissible 3 month prior.
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Serenity Frye
Mnemonic Enterprises
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Posted - 2010.01.02 01:28:00 -
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'Tis better to be a Lion for one day then be a sheep for a hundred years' |
Mara Rinn
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Posted - 2010.01.02 03:19:00 -
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Originally by: Cyprus Black It's threads like these which reinforce the notion that forum moderators are inappropriately overcensoring everything.
Ah I get it, this is a joke thread and I'm the silly billy trying to get people to provide evidence supporting their claims :\
[Aussie players: join channel ANZAC] |
Wu Jiaqiu
Res Ipsa Loquitor
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Posted - 2010.01.02 05:23:00 -
[149]
Freedom of Speech support!
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Taedrin
Gallente The Green Cross DEFI4NT
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Posted - 2010.01.02 18:29:00 -
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I may not browse these forums enough to see all of this overzealous moderation. Because from my perspective, the moderators only censor things which are not supposed to be posted on the forums. Usually: 1) Discussion on moderation 2) Kill mails and killboard links 3) chatlogs 4) trolls
I see PLENTY of posts out there which are negative about CCP, yet they remain in place. It is my opinion that people could EASILY avoid being moderated by simply not being raving lunatics. Post in a calm and concise manner, don't break the rules, and the mods will be much kinder to you. ---------- There is always a choice. The choice might not be easy, nor simple, nor the options be what you desire - but, nevertheless, the choice is there to be made. |
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