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Posted - 2009.12.01 18:14:00 -
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Originally by: KPPA Also, your comment about companies having too much wealth is despicable. I shutter to think that you could look down on people who work their butts off and aspire to make as much as they can. They are producing a product which your life depends on.
I don't understand why wealth is such an evil thing. Wealth is created from the mind. Surely, it is not the mind you hate. It must be that you think they are some how killing you or stealing from you with the production of a product which you so desperately need. Which is it? would you prefer them to stop producing and for millions to die when shipping lanes go dry? or are they really going to kill us by harvesting a natural byproduct of the earth?
Money is the root of all good, don't hate it. /end rant
People who have enough wealth to fund and push changes in the law to make themselves richer, yeah, I consider that pretty despicable, even down right evil, when Joe Everybody who pays their taxes and does his bit to protect his homeland and family and friends just gets a small American flag to wave as the rich roll by in their fancy armoured stretched limousines.
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Posted - 2009.12.01 19:34:00 -
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Originally by: Burnharder
Originally by: Simon Man
I don't normally read WSJ shill, its now Murdoch garbage and can not be trusted. Despite the nonsense in that article, its clear that Exxon alone stands to benefit far more from the lack environmental legislation then anyone stands to gain from its passage. That is why, (and I quote from the article you just gave me...)
Dude, honestly, that sum of money is small change compared to the amount Goldman Sachs and others will make from trading and hedging carbon credits. You can't accuse Exxon of corrupting the message when the message is wall-to-wall Warmism. But anyway, in my view these aren't very interesting points. I mean of course, with any legislation there are winners and losers. Both sides will want to influence the debate but remember the main point of this topic and others like it: the science is flawed and the peer review process has been corrupted to prevent you from seeing that.
I do agree, that this carbon credit crap is a scam in itself. But I'm pretty sure companies would quickly start selling soylent green if it became the next new thing. Businesses will always jump on the bandwagon usually, unless they're based on intellectual property.
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Posted - 2009.12.05 16:46:00 -
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Originally by: Burnharder Rolk, it isn't the Government you have to trust. I've discussed this with my MP. The politicians say they have no choice but to go where the science does. This gives the scientists enormous political power.
Bull****. Our government wont even listen to it's own scientific advisers, never mind to implement anything they say should be done. If it was all about more tax revenue, cannabis and other drugs would be legal, sold in government run/backed shops and taxed 400%, but surprise surprise, they aren't.
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Posted - 2009.12.06 09:14:00 -
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Originally by: Burnharder
Honestly, I spoke to my MP more than once about this. He told me the science was clear (to him).
And that's why he's your MP, your elected representative and not you, trying to convince people on an internet spaceship game forum all Science and scientific evidence is corrupt.
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Posted - 2009.12.06 23:01:00 -
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Originally by: Sleyha I think people are losing focus here...
Yes, Co2 is good for the planet, gives nutrients to plants, so they grow. We all can agree here. http://ilovecarbondioxide.com/2009/01/co2-climate-facts.html
Yes, there were higher levels of Co2 in the past, Coral grew more than ever in the higher periods. http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/originals/co2_coral_warming.html
But we're all missing the point of this thread, let's try to stay on topic.
CLIMATE GATE!
The CRU of East Anglia in England actively lied about Man Made Global Warming, faked their data and committed criminal acts in the name of "saving the planet". It is all a big con, as proven by Climate Gate.
Climate Gate in the news.
Jon Stewart, scoops main stream news on Climate Gate. http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-december-1-2009/scientists-hide-global-warming-data
Fox news (I don't like Fox Either) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHATItyOsdY
And many more.
Climate gate is the issue here. It is a con!
Yeah, those so scandalous emails, they show neither any conspiracy or even fraud. Yet somehow, (although unsurprisingly) is enough to make the deniers even more entrenched, and to claim, a WORLDWIDE conspiracy. But its OK, because Fox News and Saudi Arabia agrees with you.
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Posted - 2009.12.07 12:39:00 -
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Edited by: Xen Gin on 07/12/2009 12:40:32
Originally by: KPPA Are the ice caps really melting? I keep hearing that they are but then every other week or so I see an article that says the exact opposite. I personally have no way of confirming if they are or they aren't but I'm not sold that they are melting.
Here is an article saying they are growing, there are tons of them out there.
By the way, it snowed in Houston for the second year in a row. It's never done that in recorded history.
Please for the love of insanity, look up who owns News Limited and these other publishers. Yes, its that man of the people, giver of fair and balanced and free news as a public service, Mr Rupert Murdoch!
*edit Spelling, I just had a tooth filling and the anaesthetic is still with me.
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Posted - 2009.12.08 00:52:00 -
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Originally by: baltec1
Originally by: Fire Watch Are the global warming alarmists prepared to go to war if Copenhagen fails?
I dont think anyone expects anything from copenhagen.
I don't think the world could ever come together even to fight off an imminent (Like really imminent, meteor/comet or alien doomsday death star) threat.
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Posted - 2009.12.08 01:08:00 -
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Edited by: Xen Gin on 08/12/2009 01:08:28
Originally by: Sleyha I think I've spelt it out well enough. GLIMATE GATE is the answer, it's a con, you have been lied to, we have the proof, now wake the fark up.
But its not peer reviewed. Opps.
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Posted - 2009.12.10 21:46:00 -
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Originally by: Locus Bey Lord Monckton You really need to do some research before leading with him as your trump card It amazes me the intentional gullability and laziness of many naysayers. I've seen the same idiots like Monckton trotted out again and again by them. Never, ever, do these people actually research, as in the true form of the word, climate change or the pseudo scientists they are about to trot out. You need to Ive posted the following links a number of times, and always deathly silence from the naysayers. It tells you everything you need about climate change, the science, and what dross is put up as alternative 'arguments.' Start Here Index of topics
You know its a real academic site, the web layout and style is never buisness polished.
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Posted - 2009.12.13 20:58:00 -
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Originally by: Foodpimp
Originally by: Sokratesz
Originally by: MaxxOmega
I drive a SUV because I bloody well want to. I have never recycled in my life. I won't change my lifestyle one little bit when the population of the earth grows daily by tens of thousands in crap countries whose biggest goal will be to sneak into the U.S. one day. Is global warning real? Don't care I intend to do nothing. And don't you just love the new Hemi Challengers???
End yourself please.
Sokratesz....you have an official position within the Eve Community. Please keep the personal attacks to yourself. I don't care how emotional you feel about any of the topics here. You gave up that freedom when you accepted the position.
Foodpimp
I still think he has the right to tell someone to use the biomass compactor on their character.
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Posted - 2009.12.13 23:34:00 -
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Edited by: Xen Gin on 13/12/2009 23:33:50
Originally by: Foodpimp Were this a discussion about the game, you could make that argument. Since this is about a real life issue....it's a reference to a real life person. But since I'm sure you are an intelligent person, you already knew that.
Oh no, you're too sharp for me, watch out boys! Mr Razor-wit coming through!
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Posted - 2009.12.14 17:59:00 -
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Edited by: Xen Gin on 14/12/2009 17:59:03
Originally by: MaxxOmega Agreed and so will I. How is what I am saying ignorant? Do you understand the meaning of the word? It means lack of knowledge or education about a particular subject. I am simply saying I dont care if my lifestyle kills others 3 generations away, I have no intentions of changing my life. Any why would it possibly make any difference to me what you or anyone else would think. Just what is it you think I actually owe to you or anyone else that I should change anything? I simply just don't care and you can't make me. And you know what? Do you really think I am the only one who thinks like this? Go on and try to tell someone, anyone that they have to give up their job to save the planet and see what they say too.
And my SUV still rocks. Beautiful Jeep Liberty with all the goodies. Goofball...
Will your SUV still rock when China has all the oil, and you can't even turn the engine one? There's something to be said for conserving materials and energy. Because sooner or later China is going to be stripping the copper out of your walls to fund their latest housing project.
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