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Archbishop
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2009.11.28 21:39:00 -
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I am requesting a Quebec Power corporation Director/CEO contact me inpod to arrange delivery of a confidential report.
Archbishop Admiral/CEO PIE Inc.
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Jakiin
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Posted - 2009.11.28 21:47:00 -
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Quebec Power has a Diplomatic Contact, his name is Grotex. Excommunicator seems to be running both of the corps which were attacked by No.Mercy. I don't know why you'd make this a public request, sending them a message privately would have been far more effective. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Jakiin Holder Heir of the Kingdom 'Pacifist Reclaimer' |
Archbishop
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2009.11.28 21:50:00 -
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The public request was made because this is an alliance and I was uncertain exactly who to contact for delivery. Thank you for the information I will send each of them an evemail asking they contact me.
Archbishop
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Jane Starr
The EVE Observer
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Posted - 2009.11.28 21:55:00 -
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their leadership speaks primarily in a sub-Gallente dialect, perhaps your request could be translated into Frantais? |
Jakiin
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Posted - 2009.11.28 22:15:00 -
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Originally by: Jane Starr their leadership speaks primarily in a sub-Gallente dialect, perhaps your request could be translated into Frantais?
Both of the people I mentioned I have personally spoken to, and they are both quite competent in English. Any translator you find on Galnet will likely mar the message to the point where English will be the most convenient for all parties. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Jakiin Holder Heir of the Kingdom 'Pacifist Reclaimer' |
Archbishop
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2009.11.29 10:51:00 -
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Edited by: Archbishop on 29/11/2009 10:51:33
Originally by: Jakiin
Both of the people I mentioned I have personally spoken to, and they are both quite competent in English. Any translator you find on Galnet will likely mar the message to the point where English will be the most convenient for all parties.
Excellent and thank you again for the information. The report has already been released internally to PIE pilots for review and orders. All that remains is to meet with the leaders of the two involved organizations and present the report to them.
Archbishop
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Jakiin
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Posted - 2009.11.29 11:04:00 -
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Originally by: Archbishop Excellent and thank you again for the information. The report has already been released internally to PIE pilots for review and orders. All that remains is to meet with the leaders of the two involved organizations and present the report to them.
Archbishop
It's my pleasure to assist. Hopefully once the results have been divulged to the involved parties Quebec Power will continue their general attitude towards the incident and allow me to publish this, as well. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Jakiin Holder Heir of the Kingdom 'Pacifist Reclaimer' |
Archbishop
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2009.11.29 19:01:00 -
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Originally by: Jakiin
It's my pleasure to assist. Hopefully once the results have been divulged to the involved parties Quebec Power will continue their general attitude towards the incident and allow me to publish this, as well.
Once the report is released to the involved parties we are concluded. The report issued to both parties will be slightly redacted to remove the orders to PIE pilots issued as a result of the investigation. We do not desire to have the report released publically however we certainly wouldn't tell Quebec Power what to do, especially under threat of violence... that would make us extortionists.
Archbishop
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Archbishop
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2009.11.30 02:34:00 -
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I have requested of a QP Mining Director that their CEO contact me to arrange delivery of the report. An odd event happened earlier where I was suddenly connected with the QP alliance channel. I was in prayer when this bizarre occurance happend. Obviously someone is so obsessed they'd resort to hacking communications channels.
Anyway since I was there I attempted to find a QP CEO/Diplomat. When I inquired if a CEO was present another individual identified himself as such. Fortunately I checked this persons employment history and found he was not only not the CEO but not even in the alliance. It was then I noticed I was brought there by Jade Constantine! I can only assume this was an attempt to con the report out of me and this imposter was in reality another Star Fraction "friend". I also noticed Mrs. Constantine said something about "we" won't pay a ransom. Given this plural statement it appeared as if she was speaking on behalf of QP which perhaps indicates a link of some sort? It was very odd. Anyway once the CEO contacts me I will give them the report. Meanwhile for your enjoyment I will post the very brief chatlog from that channel. As I didn't hang around I'm not sure what happend next but given this experience I can only assume it got even more bizarre.
Channel ID: 2142884831 Channel Name: quebec powa Listener: Archbishop Session started: 2009.11.29 23:26:59 ---------------------------------------------------------------
[ 2009.11.29 23:27:00 ] EVE System > Channel MOTD: Bienvenue dans le channel public de Quebec Power [ 2009.11.29 23:27:07 ] Jade Constantine > Ah here is the man for himself [ 2009.11.29 23:27:39 ] Jade Constantine > He is going to explain to you all how Garst Tyrell and No.Mercy came to attack your Alliance and what was meant by their attempt to ransom you of 800m isk [ 2009.11.29 23:27:57 ] Jade Constantine > Archbishop [ 2009.11.29 23:28:19 ] Jade Constantine > http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a...hreadID=1222032 [ 2009.11.29 23:28:23 ] icezero1986 > lol don,t give money of no.mercy [ 2009.11.29 23:28:38 ] Jade Constantine > Yeah don't worry we won't be doing so [ 2009.11.29 23:28:51 ] Archbishop > Yes? [ 2009.11.29 23:29:00 ] Jade Constantine > But Garst Tyrell is currently nominated for an award provided by Archbishop's corporation [ 2009.11.29 23:29:19 ] Jade Constantine > so he is somewhat honour bound to explain how No.Mercy came to attack your alliance [ 2009.11.29 23:29:43 ] Archbishop > Is the CEO of any QP alliance member corpoation present? [ 2009.11.29 23:30:02 ] Borgio Darksun > i am the mining director [ 2009.11.29 23:30:33 ] Jade Constantine > (just doing my bit to help you reach the intended audience for the No.Mercy report Archbishop, these are the guys you need to explain yourself too really) [ 2009.11.29 23:30:35 ] Archbishop > Who is your diplomat or CEO ? [ 2009.11.29 23:31:09 ] icezero1986 > here [ 2009.11.29 23:31:49 ] Archbishop > I don't show you as a diplomat in your title? [ 2009.11.29 23:32:02 ] icezero1986 > [ 2009.11.29 23:32:06 ] Archbishop > Or even in the alliance for that matter [ 2009.11.29 23:32:36 ] icezero1986 > mon real its me other perso [ 2009.11.29 23:32:39 ] Jade Constantine > Borgio Darksun [ 2009.11.29 23:32:49 ] Jade Constantine > was told to me the other day as a Diplomatic contact [ 2009.11.29 23:33:03 ] Archbishop > Mr. Darksun. If you would be so kind as to have your CEO contact me at his convenience I would be happy to send him a copy of our investigation into No.Mercy and their attack on your alliance. [ 2009.11.29 23:33:08 ] icezero1986 > grotex is death [ 2009.11.29 23:33:21 ] Archbishop > I will be available here for the next several hours should he appear. If not he can evemail me to schedule a time to talk. [ 2009.11.29 23:33:22 ] Archbishop > Thank you.
Archbishop
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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.11.30 02:52:00 -
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Originally by: Archbishop I also noticed Mrs. Constantine said something about "we" won't pay a ransom.
Quote: [ 2009.11.29 23:28:23 ] icezero1986 > lol don,t give money of no.mercy [ 2009.11.29 23:28:38 ] Jade Constantine > Yeah don't worry we won't be doing so
I always find it quite amusing that you can't even keep your story straight within the length of a single post.
The situation here is fairly simple. Quebec Power speak a minority Gallentean dialect and are not able to understand the content of this forum very easily. I was letting them know that PIE Inc. was offering them a report into Garst Tyrell's piracy and ransoming routine. After learning which Quebec Power pilots present claimed Director responsibilies I invited Archbishop to their public channel and introduced him as the man who could explain why Garst Tyrell had attacked and ransomed their alliance.
Archbishop himself appeared quite confused by the fact that an Industrial Alliance had a Mining Director with diplomatic responsibilities, made his excuses and left.
Now we'll see if he is prepared to send this "report" to the Quebec Power directorate. Star Fraction have offered our own translation services in rendering Amarrian common into Quebec's regional dialect.
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Archbishop
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2009.11.30 03:14:00 -
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Ah thank you for that clarification. Obviously the bizarre method I was brought to the channel and the fact it interupted my prayer session left me a bit abrupt. As I asked for a CEO and the only answer was from a Mining Director and an imposter I decided it would be best to have the Mining Director contact his CEO and request contact. I then thanked them and left to return to prayer. After this I received an evemail from the same Mining Director asking for the report. I replied in evemail that if his CEO sent me an evemail requesting I send it to him I would.
A truly bizarre experience. I can't recall ever being "kidnapped" to a chat channel quite like that before.
Archbishop
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Archbishop
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2009.11.30 03:30:00 -
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I have just delivered the report to the Mining Director Mr. Borgio Darksun after verifying his identity. We now consider the matter closed unless new evidence presents itself. Thank you for your assistance.
Archbishop
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Archbishop
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2009.11.30 03:37:00 -
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The report has also been delivered to Admiral Garst Tyrell of No.Mercy.
Archbishop
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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.11.30 05:02:00 -
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Edited by: Jade Constantine on 30/11/2009 05:02:07
Originally by: Archbishop
The report has also been delivered to Admiral Garst Tyrell of No.Mercy
Archbishop
Edited in a link for reading convenience.
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Horatius Caul
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2009.11.30 08:41:00 -
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Quote: Jade Constantine > But Garst Tyrell is currently nominated for an award provided by Archbishop's corporation
I will point out (as others have numerous times) that members of the Star Fraction and assorted other enemies of PIE are also in the list of nominations, as it has been for previous years and will likely be in the future. Before the shortlist is decided, nominations cannot be taken as any kind of indication of favourable relationship between a person and PIE Inc.
So I fail to see why Miss Constantine keeps regurgitating this stale and pointless comment, which serves to do nothing more than to illustrate her translucent attempts to twist information against PIE. -----
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Inara Subaka
Caldari Ghost Festival Naraka.
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Posted - 2009.11.30 11:09:00 -
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Originally by: Horatius Caul So I fail to see why Miss Constantine keeps regurgitating this stale and pointless comment, which serves to do nothing more than to illustrate her translucent attempts to twist information against PIE.
*Inara is chuckling slightly*
Mr. Caul, I've said it before, and I'll more than likely say it again; You're using logic to make debate with Ms. Constantine, it's a dangerous weapon that she neither knows nor is able to defend against.
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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.11.30 14:36:00 -
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Edited by: Jade Constantine on 30/11/2009 14:39:38
Originally by: Horatius Caul I will point out (as others have numerous times) that members of the Star Fraction and assorted other enemies of PIE are also in the list of nominations, as it has been for previous years and will likely be in the future. Before the shortlist is decided, nominations cannot be taken as any kind of indication of favourable relationship between a person and PIE Inc.
So I fail to see why Miss Constantine keeps regurgitating this stale and pointless comment, which serves to do nothing more than to illustrate her translucent attempts to twist information against PIE.
Thats because you (and indeed your supremely uncritical cheerleader Inara Subaka) are really quite stupid.
I'll explain (again).
The fact that the No.Mercy CEO is nominated for the award of a faction battleship to be provided him by PIE Inc. as an award for "amarrian-of-the-year" is as you say - nothing much to be held responsible for. But it is a reasonable point of context to explain to Quebec Power why Archbishop (the CEO of PIE) feels the need to provide a "report" on No.Mercy's wrongdoings to his victims.
The real test as ever will come at shortlist time when PIE Inc. needs to decide whether Garst Tyrell's now very solid guilt in the ransoming and piracy stakes will disqualify him from the contest. This is a decision that is all PIE. There will be no hiding from your responsibility on that one.
I can't wait!
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2009.11.30 14:53:00 -
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Edited by: Rodj Blake on 30/11/2009 14:54:22
Originally by: Jade Constantine
The fact that the No.Mercy CEO is nominated for the award of a faction battleship to be provided him by PIE Inc. as an award for "amarrian-of-the-year" is as you say - nothing much to be held responsible for. But it is a reasonable point of context to explain to Quebec Power why Archbishop (the CEO of PIE) feels the need to provide a "report" on No.Mercy's wrongdoings to his victims.
And once again I would like to remind you that the fact that Garst Tyrell has been nominated is in no way an indication of any support for him on the part of PIE.
In much the same way as the nomination of The Cosmopolite cannot be taken as evidence of PIE support of The Star Fraction.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.11.30 14:56:00 -
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Originally by: Rodj Blake
And once again I would like to remind you that the fact that Garst Tyrell has been nominated is in no way an indication of any support for him on the part of PIE. In much the same way as the nomination of The Cosmopolite cannot be taken as evidence of PIE support of The Star Fraction.
If you'd taken the time to read many second paragraph rather than kneejerk quoting the first you wouldn't have to say any such thing. Seriously Rodj you are terrible at this.
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Invelious
Amarr Deus Imperiosus Acies
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Posted - 2009.11.30 16:41:00 -
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Just curious, which faction is quebec power aligned too? Gallente seems to be the logical choice as that is their preferred language it seems, but can we get confirmation of their actual allegience?
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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.11.30 17:31:00 -
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Originally by: Invelious Just curious, which faction is quebec power aligned too? Gallente seems to be the logical choice as that is their preferred language it seems, but can we get confirmation of their actual allegience?
They are an industrial alliance. Their allegience is to profit. They mine, they build, they run their business. As far as I can tell having spoken to them briefly in their public channel they have absolutely no interest in factional conflicts or political ideology.
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Invelious
Amarr Deus Imperiosus Acies
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Posted - 2009.11.30 18:06:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantine
Originally by: Invelious Just curious, which faction is quebec power aligned too? Gallente seems to be the logical choice as that is their preferred language it seems, but can we get confirmation of their actual allegience?
They are an industrial alliance. Their allegience is to profit. They mine, they build, they run their business. As far as I can tell having spoken to them briefly in their public channel they have absolutely no interest in factional conflicts or political ideology.
Hmmm, I dont see any issue then with No.Mercy's actions, if they dont support Amarr or Caldari, then it is safe to assume that they are creating competitive market conflicts with Amarr/Cadlari loyal aligned organisations, and possibly supply our enemies with resources, and quite frankly Jadder, if there is even a speck of inclination that they are in league with SF or the minmatar, then I'm all for smashing them into the ground.
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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.11.30 18:24:00 -
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Originally by: Invelious Hmmm, I dont see any issue then with No.Mercy's actions, if they dont support Amarr or Caldari, then it is safe to assume that they are creating competitive market conflicts with Amarr/Cadlari loyal aligned organisations, and possibly supply our enemies with resources, and quite frankly Jade, if there is even a speck of inclination that they are in league with SF or the minmatar, then I'm all for smashing them into the ground.
Spoken like a true NBSI'er. Perhaps you could school Rodj Blake in such direct speaking? He seems to have a lot of trouble expressing whether or not he is condemning No.Mercy on this issue.
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Invelious
Amarr Deus Imperiosus Acies
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Posted - 2009.11.30 18:39:00 -
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Edited by: Invelious on 30/11/2009 18:40:10
Originally by: Jade Constantine
Originally by: Invelious Hmmm, I dont see any issue then with No.Mercy's actions, if they dont support Amarr or Caldari, then it is safe to assume that they are creating competitive market conflicts with Amarr/Cadlari loyal aligned organisations, and possibly supply our enemies with resources, and quite frankly Jade, if there is even a speck of inclination that they are in league with SF or the minmatar, then I'm all for smashing them into the ground.
Spoken like a true NBSI'er. Perhaps you could school Rodj Blake in such direct speaking? He seems to have a lot of trouble expressing whether or not he is condemning No.Mercy on this issue.
I dont believe Rodj, or PIE is the "Amarr police", and thus don't need to condemn No.Mercy. Since quebec power shares no loyalty to any faction, that would mean that No.Mercy has done nothing against Amarr directly, and thus are not guilty of any crime towards the Empire and no Amarr loyal organisation should be concerned with their actions.
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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.11.30 18:49:00 -
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Originally by: Invelious I dont believe Rodj, or PIE is the "Amarr police", and thus don't need to condemn No.Mercy.
Not the "police" no. But they are the prize-givers in the Amarrian-the-year competition. And they will shortly be deciding whether to give Garst Tyrell a faction battleship to celebrate his deeds. If they do this then they are surely showing encouragement for the ideology displayed by No.Mercy in recent months and demonstrating they are fine with the ransoming and attacks on neutrals.
Whereas if they deny this prize to Garst Tyrell it surely means they have decided that No.Mercy have slipped below the standards expected of loyal amarrians and they cannot in conscience award this man for his piratical misadventures. Thats the exciting thing!
Quote: Since quebec power shares no loyalty to any faction, that would mean that No.Mercy has done nothing against Amarr directly, and thus are not guilty of any crime towards the Empire and no Amarr loyal organisation should be concerned with their actions.
Yep thats a good excuse for NBSI aggression against anyone really Invelious. If they aren't loyal supportive and core members of a faction (ie BLUE) then they can be shot without consequence or condemnation. I think you are certainly describing the way No.Mercy view this matter. But we're not really talking about their opinion or reputation at the moment. This is about PIE Inc. and whether they are prepared to condemn No.Mercy's actions or whether they will instead award them with a faction battleship in recognition of these deeds.
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Chell Charon
The Seven's Low-Sec Securitas
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Posted - 2009.12.01 00:00:00 -
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Originally by: Invelious Edited by: Invelious on 30/11/2009 18:40:10 Since quebec power shares no loyalty to any faction, that would mean that No.Mercy has done nothing against Amarr directly, and thus are not guilty of any crime towards the Empire and no Amarr loyal organisation should be concerned with their actions.
I hope any and all Industrial, Research and Investment corporations take a note here. -If this attitude is more common among Amarr militia, the risks of investing to any operations within Amarr Highsec have just gone up.
I do hope that the loyal service of Invelious for the Amarr Empire -In decreasing investments, increasing loan rates and most specifically the drop in taxable income from foreign investments.- Will lead to commendations befitting a person unable to see (or choosing not to care) the benefits of lawful and orderly society.
I do invite any Amarr militia members disagreeing with Invelious on this matter to speak up in defence of your Empire's financial intrests. Commander Charon Of LS-S7 |
Invelious
Amarr Deus Imperiosus Acies
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Posted - 2009.12.01 00:55:00 -
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Originally by: Chell Charon
Originally by: Invelious Edited by: Invelious on 30/11/2009 18:40:10 Since quebec power shares no loyalty to any faction, that would mean that No.Mercy has done nothing against Amarr directly, and thus are not guilty of any crime towards the Empire and no Amarr loyal organisation should be concerned with their actions.
I hope any and all Industrial, Research and Investment corporations take a note here. -If this attitude is more common among Amarr militia, the risks of investing to any operations within Amarr Highsec have just gone up.
I do hope that the loyal service of Invelious for the Amarr Empire -In decreasing investments, increasing loan rates and most specifically the drop in taxable income from foreign investments.- Will lead to commendations befitting a person unable to see (or choosing not to care) the benefits of lawful and orderly society.
I do invite any Amarr militia members disagreeing with Invelious on this matter to speak up in defence of your Empire's financial intrests.
Since it is Quebec Power at question, and them being suspect of supporting enemy factions of the Amarr Empire, I doubt anyone truly cares about the actions taken against them. As for other neutral corperations, well if they are found suspect or supporting our enemies, then i'm sure they will be met with a similar response.
As for proof, well I thank all of our enemies for jumping on this subject so fast once it became public knowledge that No.Mercy was taking hostile action against quebec p., why else would you do this if not to defend this group that provides some level of either financial or industrial support?
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Theophilas
Amarr Deus Imperiosus Acies
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Posted - 2009.12.01 01:10:00 -
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As I have stated numerous times before, SF is merely beating a dead horse, trying once again to win the war with walls of text.
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Riso Makaan
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Posted - 2009.12.01 01:33:00 -
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Originally by: Invelious why else would you do this if not to defend this group that provides some level of either financial or industrial support?
Why, to endlessly Slander PIE of course! I think it is rather telling that such an "infration" by No.Mercy is immediately turned into a dismal failure on the behalf of PIE by the words of Star Fraction.
No.Mercy itself is largely ignored in the squabble, as is Garst himself, it's just turned into a tool by SF which to try and bludgeon PIE's rock hard reputation.
Frankly, I find it all rather ludicrous; the sheer amount of posturing and fabrication that seems to pour from Jade is without equal, the rest of Sf and the Matari are comparatively civil
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Lucius Vindictus
Amarr Ordo Peregrinus
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Posted - 2009.12.01 01:46:00 -
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Edited by: Lucius Vindictus on 01/12/2009 01:51:12
Originally by: Chell Charon
I hope any and all Industrial, Research and Investment corporations take a note here. -If this attitude is more common among Amarr militia, the risks of investing to any operations within Amarr Highsec have just gone up.
I do hope that the loyal service of Invelious for the Amarr Empire -In decreasing investments, increasing loan rates and most specifically the drop in taxable income from foreign investments.- Will lead to commendations befitting a person unable to see (or choosing not to care) the benefits of lawful and orderly society.
I do invite any Amarr militia members disagreeing with Invelious on this matter to speak up in defence of your Empire's financial intrests.
Well, if you are expecting a single stance from a group as diverse as a capsuleer militia you will be disappointed. Simple as that. In general it is safe to assume that wherever any of the four empire's militia's go, death will inevitably follow and innocents will die. We are a disorderly, diverse, inherently unpredictable and dangerous weapon to employ in any war. We are not the navies of our empires. And that is the ugly truth that applies to ALL of the militia's.
The Amarrian militia holds scavengers, pirates, illegal slavers, etc. That I'm not particularly proud of, but I will fight alongside militia fleets none the less. Duty demands that I fight, and I do so in my own way according to my own set of rules and morals like everyone else. Invellious correctly pointed out the strange and untrue notion that seems to exist among some people that there is such a thing as an "Amarr Police". I can tell you with certainty that such a thing doesn't exist. And I for one certainly don't expect anyone to be vain enough to even presume he has that kind of authority. If you wish to go higher up, make an appointment with our collective CEO: Nalmid Lebon; leave your weapons at the door.
And the Minmatar Militia has it's own gems of course. It holds the same scavengers, pirates, and yes... slavers too, according to a recent investigation. Though those are (hopefully) exceptions, and I won't hold that against the whole TLF that struggles with similar problems as we do. They too are no navy unit. We should at least try to respect eachother as warriors despite the shortcomings of having to fight eachother as opposing militia forces.
Both sides have their bad apples. That is nothing new, so there should be no surprise there.
As to your "worries" about trade in Amarrian Highsec: First of all, our empire survived perfectly well before moneygrubbing capsuleers set up shop. You seem to mix up Amarrian citizens and capsuleers in your reasoning. I'd only agree if we were talking about civilians and civilian corporations, but we are not. Capsuleers are not Amarrian civilians. Their corporations are entities that are politically, economically and militarily independant from the Amarr Empire. How else are entities who declare to be openly against everything the empire stands for allowed to be in our space? Why won't the empires respond when we declare war on a capsuleer corporation? It is because they don't even care and don't want to mess with them. The responsibility for the wellbeing of a capsuleer rests on his own shoulders and no one else. If a capsuleer corporation has favorable diplomatic ties with Amarrian loyalist corps, however, that is a different story entirely. In such a case it would likely be defended by many friends. If not... they are on their own. -----
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