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Hooman Target
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.01.27 00:21:00 -
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Sweet Jesus in a jumpsuit, would you carebears just dry your tears, accept that this is a legitimate game mechanic, and let this thread DIE ALREADY!!!!!
1: Find alternate routes around the most heavily ganked systems. 2: USE A SCOUT!!! 3: Have a corpmate escort with a webifier fitted so you warp faster. 4: Have someone excort in a logistics ship to keep your dumb *** alive. 5: Travel at off-peak times.
Any combination of the above will keep you from dying in a fire and coming here to whine about it.
IF you REALLY feel the need to continue crying to someone, try a GM and file a griefing complaint against the involved parties so a the GM's can have a turn laughing at your tears.
No, I'm not a suicide ganker, I DO have an alt that makes the Jita-Amarr-Dodixie-Hek run twice a week and has NEVER been killed. Several attempts, none successful. Now htfu and quit being lazy.
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Zijal
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Posted - 2011.01.27 04:04:00 -
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Supported because it makes no sense.
"Hello, this is Betty at Pend Insurance, how can I help you?"
"Hi there, I just intentionally set fire to my own house to kill off a few family members, knowing I WOULD lose my house in the process, and I was wondering if my insurance policy covers that."
"Why, of course! Here at Pend Insurance, we offer full replacement under any circumstance and without further investigation, UNLIKE ANY OTHER REAL INSURANCE COMPANY OUT THERE"
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leich
Amarr bish bash bosh
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Posted - 2011.01.27 15:08:00 -
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This is all a load of Rubish.
Concord show pay out double insurance to Suiside gankers. and not turn up for atleast 2 Mins to give time for the ganker to get in destroy the carebear and get out.
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Captian Caffeene
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Posted - 2011.02.03 14:08:00 -
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Edited by: Captian Caffeene on 03/02/2011 14:08:17 Supported. I understand that Concord doesn't pay out insurance. State farm isn't going to payout on a van you wreck while doing something illegal. It just makes sense.
I don't wanna hear how there are too many minerals, prices are steady going up. Oh, and guess what... normal players, ones who stick to highsec, also gank macro miners because they mess everything up. I've never, not once, seen someone gank a hulk and say " I DID IT FOR THE MARKET " no, they were all griefing *******s who can't handle fighting something that can fit a gun.
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Zephris
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Posted - 2011.02.04 18:18:00 -
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Originally by: Zijal Supported because it makes no sense.
"Hello, this is Betty at Pend Insurance, how can I help you?"
"Hi there, I just intentionally set fire to my own house to kill off a few family members, knowing I WOULD lose my house in the process, and I was wondering if my insurance policy covers that."
"Why, of course! Here at Pend Insurance, we offer full replacement under any circumstance and without further investigation, UNLIKE ANY OTHER REAL INSURANCE COMPANY OUT THERE"
+1, QFT.
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Zelda Wei
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Posted - 2011.02.04 19:51:00 -
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CheekyBitOnTheSide
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Posted - 2011.02.07 18:23:00 -
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Did anyone notice that insurance is next to useless now?
aka no need to keep bumping this thread.
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Ranka Mei
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.02.07 18:45:00 -
[308]
Originally by: Zephris
Originally by: Zijal Supported because it makes no sense.
"Hello, this is Betty at Pend Insurance, how can I help you?"
"Hi there, I just intentionally set fire to my own house to kill off a few family members, knowing I WOULD lose my house in the process, and I was wondering if my insurance policy covers that."
"Why, of course! Here at Pend Insurance, we offer full replacement under any circumstance and without further investigation, UNLIKE ANY OTHER REAL INSURANCE COMPANY OUT THERE"
+1, QFT.
+2, QFT. --
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Laechyd Eldgorn
Caldari Certified Household Sweeping Consulting
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Posted - 2011.02.07 21:04:00 -
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It also doesn't make sense that police suddenly appears from no where to kill the agressor with no real way out.
Nor does orbiting in space.
et cetera.
It would be more realistic if there was no hi sec at all.
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Samillian
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Posted - 2011.02.08 11:39:00 -
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Malcanis
Caldari Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2011.02.08 22:08:00 -
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Originally by: Zijal Supported because it makes no sense.
"Hello, this is Betty at Pend Insurance, how can I help you?"
"Hi there, I just intentionally set fire to my own house to kill off a few family members, knowing I WOULD lose my house in the process, and I was wondering if my insurance policy covers that."
"Why, of course! Here at Pend Insurance, we offer full replacement under any circumstance and without further investigation, UNLIKE ANY OTHER REAL INSURANCE COMPANY OUT THERE"
You know, the "realism" argument has been shot down at least twice in this thread already.
I'll tl;dr it by asking if you want realistic police to go with your realistic insurance?
Malcanis' Law: Whenever a mechanics change is proposed on behalf of "new players", that change is always to the overwhelming advantage of richer, older players. |
Zephris
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Posted - 2011.02.09 21:06:00 -
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Edited by: Zephris on 09/02/2011 21:07:05 Realistic Police is fine. If concord was realistic, they'd pod Suicide gankers and blockade clones in stations until they undergo trial / Pay a fine for damage caused :D
Losing insurance for concordonken make sense. It doesn't make ganking impossible, it just make it more expensive.
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Ranka Mei
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.02.10 05:58:00 -
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These threads are always funny. The big, bad boys go oh-so high and mighty on you when it comes to choices in EVE having consequences and such... except, of course, when they're ganking folks: then the insurance company needs to pick up the check for their misdeeds, along with, if you please, virtually no security standing loss at all.
Soooo supported. +1 --
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Frank Shitlitz
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Posted - 2011.02.10 08:15:00 -
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Not that I necessarily disagree with removing insurance, but i am confused by the original post. Can someone explain the, evidently, important distinction between an itty 5 pilot with 5bil in his hold and a shiny mission boat pilot with 5bil in fittings? I am sure there is a great deal of difference, otherwise the poster would not have problems with the mission-runner getting blown up, but I cant figure out exactly what that difference is. Please help.
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Korg Leaf
Time Bandits.
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Posted - 2011.02.10 10:37:00 -
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Originally by: Zijal Supported because it makes no sense.
"Hello, this is Betty at Pend Insurance, how can I help you?"
"Hi there, I just intentionally set fire to my own house to kill off a few family members, knowing I WOULD lose my house in the process, and I was wondering if my insurance policy covers that."
"Why, of course! Here at Pend Insurance, we offer full replacement under any circumstance and without further investigation, UNLIKE ANY OTHER REAL INSURANCE COMPANY OUT THERE"
No real insurance company would insure ships in EvE
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Explosivesonhand
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Posted - 2011.02.15 04:51:00 -
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The most recent attempt by CCP to fix insurance payouts by reducing them clearly did not solve the problem. Return T1 insurance payouts to their pre-dominion levels. Leave T2 insurance payouts as is.
Hi sec ganking is a huge problem in game, taking away insurance for CONCORD destoryed ships is the largest incentive you can give in game to stop this practice. Fully supported.
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Korg Leaf
Time Bandits.
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Posted - 2011.02.15 10:23:00 -
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Originally by: Explosivesonhand The most recent attempt by CCP to fix insurance payouts by reducing them clearly did not solve the problem. Return T1 insurance payouts to their pre-dominion levels. Leave T2 insurance payouts as is.
Hi sec ganking is a huge problem in game, taking away insurance for CONCORD destoryed ships is the largest incentive you can give in game to stop this practice. Fully supported.
Removing insurance will have no effect on organised gankers
-------------------------------------------- Evil: If I were creating the world I wouldn't mess about with butterflies and daffodils. I would have started with lasers, eight o'clock, Day One! |
TharOkha
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Posted - 2011.02.15 10:49:00 -
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Originally by: Korg Leaf
Removing insurance will have no effect on organised gankers
No, but at least, their "profit" will be reduced. Current "logic" of insurance is weird. I insure my new car in case of fire. I set my car on fire in front of insurance company guy. "Heeey bravooo, here is your insurance money".
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Korg Leaf
Time Bandits.
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Posted - 2011.02.15 11:29:00 -
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Edited by: Korg Leaf on 15/02/2011 11:30:23
Originally by: TharOkha
Originally by: Korg Leaf
Removing insurance will have no effect on organised gankers
No, but at least, their "profit" will be reduced. Current "logic" of insurance is weird. I insure my new car in case of fire. I set my car on fire in front of insurance company guy. "Heeey bravooo, here is your insurance money".
Considering their profit is never guaranteed due to the loot drop system, you would be surprised how little insurance would affect them. They would just get a little selective or gank more freighters instead of t1 haulers.
The real life insurance argument doesnt really hold in this case either as no real life insurance company would insure a mission ship or mining vessel(outside 0.9-1.0 sec systems) either as you are willingly flying them in situations where they could get blown up. It only works when considering the complete removal of insurance.
The only true way to stop suicide gankers is for the guys getting ganked to stop leaving themselves so open to it. The amount of times I have seen people lose billions because they decided it would be a good idea to fly it around in an untanked t1 hauler would make your mind boggle.
-------------------------------------------- Evil: If I were creating the world I wouldn't mess about with butterflies and daffodils. I would have started with lasers, eight o'clock, Day One! |
Anna Lifera
6....
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Posted - 2011.02.15 16:23:00 -
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Originally by: Captian Caffeene Edited by: Captian Caffeene on 03/02/2011 14:08:17 Supported. I understand that Concord doesn't pay out insurance. State farm isn't going to payout on a van you wreck while doing something illegal. It just makes sense.
I don't wanna hear how there are too many minerals, prices are steady going up. Oh, and guess what... normal players, ones who stick to highsec, also gank macro miners because they mess everything up. I've never, not once, seen someone gank a hulk and say " I DID IT FOR THE MARKET " no, they were all griefing *******s who can't handle fighting something that can fit a gun.
funny how whiny pirates who hide behind their mining alts for isk-farming always use the term "something that can fit a gun", not "pvp fitted". apparently for some stupid reason, they think that farming ratting/missioning ships is any better and that only they should have safety and still be able to "grief". --- You're an asset to the community Anna. Thank you for your clear concise remarks. - Draek |
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Corina's Bodyguard
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Posted - 2011.02.15 17:33:00 -
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I can't believe this hasn't died yet.
Anyway, NO!
Insurance in EVE isn't really insurance. Its basically percentage scrap rights. Concord gets the rights to 60% of the mineral scrap value of a wreck, and the owner gets 40%. You pay a slight amount more to get more of the scrap value.
That is why it is payed out to everyone.
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Vertisce Soritenshi
SHADOW WARD OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2011.02.15 17:57:00 -
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Absolutely supported 110%. Only a pirate would not like this idea. It makes sense too. Criminals who have their vehicle shot up by the police don't get covered by an insurance company for the damages. You don't get insured for setting your car on fire either.
Pirates just want their jobs to be as easy as possible, when in fact it should be one of the most difficult things to do in the game. NO BOOBIES LEFT BEHIND! |
Gethis Stark
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Posted - 2011.02.16 20:45:00 -
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Lovin the Ganker tears, supported.
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SiIver Twin
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Posted - 2011.02.16 23:36:00 -
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Edited by: SiIver Twin on 16/02/2011 23:49:06 Anyone on board with this proposition has no idea of balance. if there was no risk to lazy feckless people in empire then more people would be boring carebears. And there would be less demand for building gank ships.
The only scenario I would agree with no insurance paying out is if concord was tuned down. To the point where it was possible for a group to beat them. Since Concord means "pwn" then insurance has to be valid.
You may as well make it a criminal offence to mount a pvp fit to a ship in empire.
Hulkageddon is coming up, happy hunting and YARRR!
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Manalapan
Dynasty Banking General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2011.02.16 23:54:00 -
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Originally by: SiIver Twin Edited by: SiIver Twin on 16/02/2011 23:49:06 Anyone on board with this proposition has no idea of balance. if there was no risk to lazy feckless people in empire then more people would be boring carebears. And there would be less demand for building gank ships.
The only scenario I would agree with no insurance paying out is if concord was tuned down. To the point where it was possible for a group to beat them. Since Concord means "pwn" then insurance has to be valid.
You may as well make it a criminal offence to mount a pvp fit to a ship in empire.
Hulkageddon is coming up, happy hunting and YARRR!
I agree with you here. If 'insurance' is removed for concord related losses due to realism of insurance I say the police should be more realistic to maintain balance. ------ Support Manalapan for CSM!
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Norjia Blacksteel
Blacksteel Mining and Manufacturing Renaissance Federation
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Posted - 2011.02.17 18:22:00 -
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Originally by: Admiral Byng Edited by: Admiral Byng on 30/11/2009 01:24:43 I supported you. But what I am looking for has more to do with making things interanlly consistant. I don't want the suicide gank to be impossible, but it makes no sense that Concorde would pay insurance for a ship they blew up.
I agree here. Danger makes EVE work. But it is ridiculous they pay insurance on "crimes". ---- Norjia Blacksteel CEO Blacksteel Mining and Manufacturing |
Malcanis
Caldari Alcohlics Anonymous Fear.
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Posted - 2011.02.18 08:47:00 -
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Not as ridiculous as asteroids that are mined to nothing yesterday reappearing tomorrow. That's unarguably totally unrealistic, so we had better ask CCP to stop that as well.
Heck, we could even put it in the same proposal! Who wants to write this one up?
Malcanis' Law: Whenever a mechanics change is proposed on behalf of "new players", that change is always to the overwhelming advantage of richer, older players. |
Davader
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Posted - 2011.02.18 14:53:00 -
[328]
Carebears MUST suffer, I do not support this.
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Flaming Lies
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Posted - 2011.02.28 13:54:00 -
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Cyberus
Caldari Final Destination.
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Posted - 2011.02.28 18:00:00 -
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Originally by: Davader Carebears MUST suffer, I do not support this.
after all carebears are gone how you goin to do your hard core pvp in your pod?
Some of you ppl are realy dumb@$$, this game will die if there will be no carebears who build and buy your complex 'k'rap you bring from nullsec.
Well nvrm. Its just like talking to the wall some ppl simply never will understand. ===== * Your signature file is broken. Please use one that will display - Fallout |
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