Pages: [1] 2 3 :: one page |
|
Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 1 post(s) |
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
202
|
Posted - 2012.06.17 07:01:00 -
[1] - Quote
Will this post alone get me banned because someone will state it is inflammatory, or it hurts their feelings?
Who precisely will be the detective, judge, jury, and executioner?
Will it be the new eager "volunteers" that CCP is looking for? And who precisely will these new forum police be? I think it would be very enlightening once they are all hired to see EXACTLY what corp/alliance they belong to. I am reasonably certain that a certain 9000 char alliance might, just might, be flooding CCP with apps. But CCP will never give that info out.
Also, will these folks be going back and retroactively start permabanning accounts for comments made last week, last month ,or last year?? |
Implying Implications
cuties4life
112
|
Posted - 2012.06.17 07:02:00 -
[2] - Quote
It's a conspiracy! Minmatar V3 gallery: http://minus.com/mOqXRikn5 |
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Divine Power. Cascade Imminent
1221
|
Posted - 2012.06.17 07:09:00 -
[3] - Quote
I am selling posting insurance, send me 100 mil isk and I will consult the forum mods to show leniency to your badposts. |
Grumpy Owly
Paladin Philanthropists
641
|
Posted - 2012.06.17 07:37:00 -
[4] - Quote
It is "finally" a good idea that moderation to personal attacks and the contribution of asshattery of the flaming poster will in fact recieve less toleratation by CCP.
There have been far too many persoanl attacks to people, not just CCP employees historically, sometimes involving spam attacks of various disabilities and ongoing campigns of "fabricated" truths that people like to use as political character assassination techniques as opposed to actually answering the merits of a topic of the post with objective content purely due to have a difference of opinion their objectives.
Suggest simply employing discernment and appropriate behaviour to your own posting and allow CCP to triage problematic individuals of this nature as a result as overall I see it as a long overdue correction to a behavoural problem on the EVE-O forums with some aspects of the meta politics. Bounty Hunting for CSM7 |
Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
984
|
Posted - 2012.06.17 07:47:00 -
[5] - Quote
you can put down the thesaurus, this isn't a political debate forum eh |
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
1378
|
Posted - 2012.06.17 07:50:00 -
[6] - Quote
Is it also a problem if I'm self-inflammatory? |
Grumpy Owly
Paladin Philanthropists
642
|
Posted - 2012.06.17 07:56:00 -
[7] - Quote
Richard Desturned wrote:you can put down the thesaurus, this isn't a political debate forum
k, tl;dr: +1 CCP, please enforce the heat sinks. Bounty Hunting for CSM7 |
seany1212
Zat's Affiliated Traders Originally Riotous Corps
194
|
Posted - 2012.06.17 09:10:00 -
[8] - Quote
Richard Desturned wrote:you can put down the thesaurus, this isn't a political debate forum
THIS is a public debate?! |
Maledictum Aideron
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
8
|
Posted - 2012.06.17 10:15:00 -
[9] - Quote
Jake Warbird wrote:Is it also a problem if I'm self-inflammatory?
Yes. Unless you're a fat and/or white comedian.
|
Cutter Isaacson
Peace N Quiet
497
|
Posted - 2012.06.17 10:42:00 -
[10] - Quote
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Will this post alone get me banned because someone will state it is inflammatory, or it hurts their feelings?
Who precisely will be the detective, judge, jury, and executioner?
Will it be the new eager "volunteers" that CCP is looking for? And who precisely will these new forum police be? I think it would be very enlightening once they are all hired to see EXACTLY what corp/alliance they belong to. I am reasonably certain that a certain 9000 char alliance might, just might, be flooding CCP with apps. But CCP will never give that info out.
Also, will these folks be going back and retroactively start permabanning accounts for comments made last week, last month ,or last year??
Stop talking now. Numbers of terminally stupid people seem to be on the increase, I suggest we have a real life Stupidageddon to rectify this issue. |
|
Virgil Travis
GWA Corp Unified Church of the Unobligated
336
|
Posted - 2012.06.17 10:46:00 -
[11] - Quote
I got some anit-inflammatories and the swelling has gone down nicely now Unified Church of the Unobligated - madness in the method |
Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
613
|
Posted - 2012.06.17 10:50:00 -
[12] - Quote
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Will this post alone get me banned because someone will state it is inflammatory, or it hurts their feelings?
Who precisely will be the detective, judge, jury, and executioner?
Will it be the new eager "volunteers" that CCP is looking for? And who precisely will these new forum police be? I think it would be very enlightening once they are all hired to see EXACTLY what corp/alliance they belong to. I am reasonably certain that a certain 9000 char alliance might, just might, be flooding CCP with apps. But CCP will never give that info out.
Also, will these folks be going back and retroactively start permabanning accounts for comments made last week, last month ,or last year??
What ???
The universe is an ancient desert, a vast wasteland with only occasional habitable planets as oases. We Fremen, comfortable with deserts, shall now venture into another. - STILGAR, From the Sietch to the Stars. |
killorbekilled TBE
Dare Bears
101
|
Posted - 2012.06.17 10:54:00 -
[13] - Quote
let the authors be the moderators
huh? |
Ex0101
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
19
|
Posted - 2012.06.17 10:56:00 -
[14] - Quote
You know when you make a post if you're being an idiot or not, and whether it would be acceptable. Dont tell me you really need someone to hold your hand to that extent?
If it makes you second guess, it shouldn't be posted, its not rocket science. |
Vera Algaert
Republic University Minmatar Republic
196
|
Posted - 2012.06.17 11:25:00 -
[15] - Quote
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:I am reasonably certain that a certain 9000 char alliance might, just might, be flooding CCP with apps.
Quote: Rumor threads and posts
Rumor threads and posts which are based off no actual information and are designed to either troll or annoy other users will be locked and removed. Players who engage in these type of threads can expect to receive a warning and ban. first of all, thank you for illustrating the necessity of this rule.
now, listen: Contrary to public belief MMOs are neither run as republics nor are they governed by any form of constitution (save for the EULA - according to which CCP can kick you out for any reason or no reason at all as long as they give 30 days notice). All assets, characters, ... you might create in this game exist at the total discretion of your sole despotic ruler, CCP.
You chose to pour years of effort into an autocratic society, the ruler of which you evidently don't trust.
I don't know what process of thinking leads to such behavior - but "stupid" does not even begin to describe it... |
Masamune Dekoro
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
150
|
Posted - 2012.06.17 11:45:00 -
[16] - Quote
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Will this post alone get me banned because someone will state it is inflammatory, or it hurts their feelings?
Who precisely will be the detective, judge, jury, and executioner?
Will it be the new eager "volunteers" that CCP is looking for? And who precisely will these new forum police be? I think it would be very enlightening once they are all hired to see EXACTLY what corp/alliance they belong to. I am reasonably certain that a certain 9000 char alliance might, just might, be flooding CCP with apps. But CCP will never give that info out.
Also, will these folks be going back and retroactively start permabanning accounts for comments made last week, last month ,or last year??
sup op. just letting you know that you spelt 'piranha' wrong twice, once in your name and once in your corp name.
<3 Masa aka Forum Spelling Police |
Alexandra Delarge
The Korova
94
|
Posted - 2012.06.17 11:57:00 -
[17] - Quote
Dinsdale is the new Icecrystal. |
Taranius De Consolville
The Mockers of Krondor
7
|
Posted - 2012.06.17 12:20:00 -
[18] - Quote
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Will this post alone get me banned because someone will state it is inflammatory, or it hurts their feelings?
Who precisely will be the detective, judge, jury, and executioner?
Will it be the new eager "volunteers" that CCP is looking for? And who precisely will these new forum police be? I think it would be very enlightening once they are all hired to see EXACTLY what corp/alliance they belong to. I am reasonably certain that a certain 9000 char alliance might, just might, be flooding CCP with apps. But CCP will never give that info out.
Also, will these folks be going back and retroactively start permabanning accounts for comments made last week, last month ,or last year??
Bottom line is, it wont work, people will see a post by sumone they hate or from an alliance they hate and will cite a stupid reason to lock the post and when that person reposts it because he is angry he will then receive a forum ban. The forums will die off and eve will suffer.
Aslong as CCP continue to think the answer is in the player base and not themselves, any idea on this scale will fail.
CCP need to stop this *we dont interfere crap* and start sorting there game out instead of being cowards and *worrying* about people who will nerd rage and quit cause there fav tool no longer works
CCP is doooooooooommmmmmeeeeeeeddddd |
Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
235
|
Posted - 2012.06.17 12:34:00 -
[19] - Quote
@OP
You're thinking it all wrong.
ISD's can close threads, erase comments out of context or whatever but they can't ban you. This is always GM's job so be a good guy and you take no risk brb |
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
202
|
Posted - 2012.06.17 12:35:00 -
[20] - Quote
Well, for all the personal attacks on me in this thread, no one answered my question.
Ultimately, do these new forum police, who are Eve players, have control to ban not just a char, but apparently ALL of a player's chars, across ALL their accounts?
Or will they simply pass on suggestions to actual Eve employees, who will examine each situation carefully, before permanently wiping out someone's ability to post?
|
|
Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
235
|
Posted - 2012.06.17 12:39:00 -
[21] - Quote
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Well, for all the personal attacks on me in this thread, no one answered my question.
Ultimately, do these new forum police, who are Eve players, have control to ban not just a char, but apparently ALL of a player's chars, across ALL their accounts?
Or will they simply pass on suggestions to actual Eve employees, who will examine each situation carefully, before permanently wiping out someone's ability to post?
Never thought I had to quote my self but it's ok.
Quote:@OP
You're thinking it all wrong.
ISD's can close threads, erase comments out of context or whatever but they can't ban you. This is always GM's job so be a good guy and you take no risk brb |
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
202
|
Posted - 2012.06.17 13:00:00 -
[22] - Quote
Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Well, for all the personal attacks on me in this thread, no one answered my question.
Ultimately, do these new forum police, who are Eve players, have control to ban not just a char, but apparently ALL of a player's chars, across ALL their accounts?
Or will they simply pass on suggestions to actual Eve employees, who will examine each situation carefully, before permanently wiping out someone's ability to post?
Never thought I had to quote my self but it's ok. Quote:@OP
You're thinking it all wrong.
ISD's can close threads, erase comments out of context or whatever but they can't ban you. This is always GM's job so be a good guy and you take no risk
I have read the 2 new rules that CCP is adding. No attacks against CCP employees, and no posting rumours on the forums. And of course, the part about how the CCL members have zero ability to ban accounts, and zero access to my personal information.
But the question still remains: Precisely how will this mechanism work? Does a CCL member point a GM to a post, and say "the bad man posted something", and the GM reads it carefully and then decides? Or does the over-worked GM say "Oh man, you CCL guys sure are digging up a lot of bad people on the forums. I simply don't have the time to read all the offending posts. CCL member, I trust you. Just give me the name of the evil-doer and they are history forever."?
And yeah, I stand by my statement before: A certain alliance is notorious for meta-gaming to the extreme. Their leader has started in-game squads to attack bloggers and CSM members to drive them from the game or silence them. To believe that this organization will not try to use this new CCL as another meta-game tool is beyond stupidity. |
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
1244
|
Posted - 2012.06.17 13:16:00 -
[23] - Quote
:User was banned for this post:
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"-á-á-MXZF |
Gillia Winddancer
Aliastra Gallente Federation
7
|
Posted - 2012.06.17 13:18:00 -
[24] - Quote
EVE forums are getting a spring cleaning? Not that it affects me in anyway but good riddance nevertheless. The extreme trolls and baiters and whatnot else that don't know acceptable boundaries can be eliminated for all I care. Maybe the forums will become a tad more pleasant to read then.
|
Gun Gal
Dark Club
0
|
Posted - 2012.06.17 13:38:00 -
[25] - Quote
funny thing this came up, because this is EXACTLY what I think it is.
gawd, why do i love this game, when it is obviously run by {insert word here} goon lovers
I got a 30 day ban for making fun of a obvious disposable alt from a goon praising the goons, which was in no way even remotely close to the diatrab that usually stays on the boards here. |
Morganta
Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia
1481
|
Posted - 2012.06.17 13:40:00 -
[26] - Quote
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Will this post alone get me banned because someone will state it is inflammatory, or it hurts their feelings?
Who precisely will be the detective, judge, jury, and executioner?
Will it be the new eager "volunteers" that CCP is looking for? And who precisely will these new forum police be? I think it would be very enlightening once they are all hired to see EXACTLY what corp/alliance they belong to. I am reasonably certain that a certain 9000 char alliance might, just might, be flooding CCP with apps. But CCP will never give that info out.
Also, will these folks be going back and retroactively start permabanning accounts for comments made last week, last month ,or last year??
only when you nail someone's head to the coffee table
The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy |
Yonis Kador
Transstellar Alchemy
163
|
Posted - 2012.06.17 13:40:00 -
[27] - Quote
I'm all for the rules on hate speech. Some guy was calling for CCP employees to be hung and shot just a couple days ago. Of course that's BS and has no place on CCP's own forums.
But I'm less sure how I feel about so-called rumor censorship. How does anyone know if a rumor is true? If a CCL member is in a Minnesota basement, and the rumor is about CCP, what qualifies that person to make such a determination? I have pretty liberal views on speech. And I've already noticed a few threads closed for "lack of content" that struck me as curious. Lack of content? It's almost always the same people over and over again writing the same BS half the time in every topic. So if a thread has a certain title and we arrange the responses in a different order, that one's bad? Doesn't seem to make much sense from here.
My understanding is that CCP just wants to clean up its forums to keep them useful as a feedback tool and that stuff gets in the way. And unless trends emerge, I'll accept that. If a comment has nothing to do with EVE, nuke it. If it's threatening, hate speech, nuke it. But GD is like a brainstorming hub. All kinds of randomness gets thrown into the chipper. I'm not a fan of too much restriction on that. You just can't know where a conversation may go in advance and many of these discussions go all over the place. Should a thread be locked because two people get personal for a page of comments? Was that discussion over?
The next response might've triggered an epihany.
Yonis Kador ... |
Ronald Ray Gun
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
6
|
Posted - 2012.06.17 13:50:00 -
[28] - Quote
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:I have read the 2 new rules that CCP is adding. No attacks against CCP employees, and no posting rumours on the forums. After looking at your previous posting history I can see why these new rules would upset you. |
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
202
|
Posted - 2012.06.17 13:53:00 -
[29] - Quote
Ronald Ray Gun wrote:Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:I have read the 2 new rules that CCP is adding. No attacks against CCP employees, and no posting rumours on the forums. After looking at your previous posting history I can see why these new rules would upset you.
And yet...still NO ONE has answered my question: How does the actual mechanic work?
|
stoicfaux
1099
|
Posted - 2012.06.17 13:53:00 -
[30] - Quote
Reported for rumor-mongering. (No content == rumor-mongering by default, natch?)
You can tell me what is and isn't Truth when you pry the tinfoil from my cold, lifeless head.
|
|
|
|
|
Pages: [1] 2 3 :: one page |
First page | Previous page | Next page | Last page |