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SpaceMagic
Amarr The Arrow Project
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Posted - 2009.12.05 14:26:00 -
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So Currently im Building my own computer i so far have the following: New i7 920 2.6ghz processor Asus Motherboard Supports quad SLi 1TB Hd Drive 2x2 Gb Memory Sticks
So all i need now is the case + power supply and a copy of windows 7 and ofcourse the graphics card.... im Looking to get a geforce graphics card i have a ú180 budget needs to be SLi (for future upgrade) so if anyone has any good advide on what graphics card pls let me know...
Also if im forgetting anything on my pc (first time builder)
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ReaperOfSly
Gallente Heavens Gate Consortium Distant Drums
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Posted - 2009.12.05 14:58:00 -
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Any particular reason you're restricting yourself to geforce cards? ____________________
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KingsGambit
Caldari Knights
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Posted - 2009.12.05 15:04:00 -
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Edited by: KingsGambit on 05/12/2009 15:07:18 It's not clear if by "needs to be SLi" you mean you want two cards running in SLi or one card capable of SLi in the future. Assuming the latter, this GFX card is (just) within your budget. It's SLi capable and while not on the bleeding edge, it's not far from it.
With these kinda recommendations, you'll get as many different answers as there are people who reply, so ultimately you ought to look around. Research the suggestions, consider which best meets your needs and budget and decide. I highly recommend BFG but I'm sure others will have differing opinions, wrong though they would be I reckon you'd be hard pressed to find better performance for less than ú180 (not including buying a pre-owned, higher spec card) than the above GTX275.
EDIT: You might also want to consider waiting for DX11 cards to show up on shelves. They won't shine for a year or two, but you'll be ready for when they do. -------------
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Gibbo3771
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Posted - 2009.12.05 16:04:00 -
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Edited by: Gibbo3771 on 05/12/2009 16:04:33 If you dont mind be adding a litle bit about the PSU and Case, some people are not aware of this so......
Cheap PSU's lead to trouble, anyone who powers an i7 system with a cheap PSU, even the ones that are OMGWTF 1800Watts is an idiot. Your looking at a 850-1200Watt (branded, Toughpower, coolermaster etc) minimun to support your CPU and 2 or more GPU's and the cooling is just a whole other story. Your PSU is probably going to be coming in @ ú60 cheap and ú140 expensive. Do not buy a cheap one. By cheap I mean ú15.
If you are looking for a case and you are NEW to building computers the best case for that is the Antec 900, it provides the room, airflow and the cables are tuckable round the back so they do not get in the way of airflow. This case is one of the best aircooling cases around and by far one of the best water cooling cases for the experts who like to drill and cut holes in stuff to make it work. If that is too expensive try its little brother Antec 300. Both are very good cases for newbies and experts.
For cooling, well stock cooling will be ok to start off with but eventualy you might want to do some reading and splashing out on some aftermarket cooling esp for the CPU and GPUs, some RAM heatspreads as well. At one point your system will be dusty due to crappy fans pushing air all over the place
Well for GPU I would recommend a GTX285 but well, your european I guess, most likely UK so your stuck with the GTX275
Try this
It comes in to JUST over your budget but like a fiver :P. Due to delievery but it is the cheapest you will get.
Also if you are looking to SLI in the future, wait. No point in buying a GTX275 and SLI'in it after 3 month. As new cards will be out and they will simply just destroy the purpose of your SLI with a single card lol.
If you are ever going to SLI, just go the whole way in 1 go, obv read about it first to see if its worth it. Which it normally is not unless your running all sorts of games with 2 screens.
Hope this helps, Gib
(and everyone has there opinions, so what i said someone might say the opposite, esp the AMD and ATI fanbois)
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KingsGambit
Caldari Knights
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Posted - 2009.12.05 20:01:00 -
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Originally by: Gibbo3771 Well for GPU I would recommend a GTX285 but well, your european I guess, most likely UK so your stuck with the GTX275
Yeah, 'cos here in the UK we're a totally backwater country. I mean electricity only got here in the 90s and the Internet like last January -------------
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Grimpak
Gallente Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2009.12.05 22:16:00 -
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Originally by: ReaperOfSly Any particular reason you're restricting yourself to geforce cards?
probably because he bought a board with NV chipset instead intel. ---
Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.
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Gibbo3771
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Posted - 2009.12.07 00:46:00 -
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Originally by: KingsGambit
Originally by: Gibbo3771 Well for GPU I would recommend a GTX285 but well, your european I guess, most likely UK so your stuck with the GTX275
Yeah, 'cos here in the UK we're a totally backwater country. I mean electricity only got here in the 90s and the Internet like last January
made me lol :p
Bah just in US you can get a GTX285 for the same price as a GTX275 over here, its gaaaaayyyyyy
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Grez
Fairlight Corp Rooks and Kings
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Posted - 2009.12.07 02:11:00 -
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Bit of a waste on the quad SLI. Go for the 285 if you can find it, 275 most likely here in the UK though.
I'd get rid of the SLI stupidity though and just settle with spending a bit more every so often on a new card. More often than not it's better to not spend ú150 every so often and just get a more powerful high-end card every few years. Technology in the graphics world improves that fast.
So, if we can't talk you out of SLI - 275/285. If we manage to (and I hope we do to save yourself feeling sad when your ú400 worth of SLI cards gets bested by a ú200 card in a few years time), go for a ATI 5850 or 4890 (best price/performance you'll find). ---
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Giannamichaels
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Posted - 2009.12.07 08:24:00 -
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i would advise to get a radeon hd 5850 gfx card as it supports direct x 11 and is good for low power consumption, it also outperforms the gtx 285
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Sunabi
Caldari Shade. Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2009.12.07 09:32:00 -
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Originally by: Giannamichaels i would advise to get a radeon hd 5850 gfx card as it supports direct x 11 and is good for low power consumption, it also outperforms the gtx 285
That's the one I'm interested in getting. But I can't seem to find anywhere that has it in stock
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Reiisha
Evolution IT Alliance
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Posted - 2009.12.07 11:05:00 -
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Gotta wait a few months for the 58xx to spread around stores and drop in price a little, something which will happen anyway when NVidia releases their own dx11 card next year. The 5870 seems to be the card to get at the moment otherwise (or 5850 if strapped for cash).
"If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all"
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Sazkyen
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Posted - 2009.12.07 11:38:00 -
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Edited by: Sazkyen on 07/12/2009 11:40:05
I bought a 5850 in the weekend and sold my GTX280. The two cards deliver about the same performance but the 5850 has DX11 capability. Also, it only cost me like $50 to move up. Either that or the 5870. Wanted a 5870 but it's out of stock everywhere here in Hungary. One place had one but they asked an outrageous $600. I'm not that desperate.
I'll probably move back to Nvidia once the new DX11 cards come out
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KingsGambit
Caldari Knights
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Posted - 2009.12.07 12:05:00 -
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Originally by: Grez Go for the 285 if you can find it, 275 most likely here in the UK though.
WTF!? Did I miss a news story declaring a 285 embargo or something? I'm in the UK with the BFG GTX285 OCX. I don't remember having to swap briefcases with men in trench coats by the docks, I didn't have to bribe any customs officials nor was it wrapped in a condom and swallowed by an eastern European to be "retrieved" later. In fact, there are several models available in the UK. Believe it or not we've also been enjoying the internal combustion engine and running water for years!!
Oh and both the GTX285 and 5850 are at least ú50-ú100 above OP's budget. |
Grez
Fairlight Corp Rooks and Kings
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Posted - 2009.12.07 13:22:00 -
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Originally by: KingsGambit
Originally by: Grez Go for the 285 if you can find it, 275 most likely here in the UK though.
WTF!? Did I miss a news story declaring a 285 embargo or something? I'm in the UK with the BFG GTX285 OCX. I don't remember having to swap briefcases with men in trench coats by the docks, I didn't have to bribe any customs officials nor was it wrapped in a condom and swallowed by an eastern European to be "retrieved" later. In fact, there are several models available in the UK. Believe it or not we've also been enjoying the internal combustion engine and running water for years!!
Oh and both the GTX285 and 5850 are at least ú50-ú100 above OP's budget.
You're lucky you got one. Same problem is plaguing the new 58** series from ATI - availability sucks :(. I live in the UK, also worked a bit in a hardware store (so I know a bit about availability and stock waiting lists). You'd be surprised how hard it is to get one a 285. Their fab process is a pain in the rear meaning batches are low, and availability is low. ---
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Meiyang Lee
Gallente Azteca Transportation Unlimited Gunboat Diplomacy
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Posted - 2009.12.07 16:47:00 -
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Edited by: Meiyang Lee on 07/12/2009 16:47:26
Originally by: Grez
Originally by: KingsGambit
Originally by: Grez Go for the 285 if you can find it, 275 most likely here in the UK though.
WTF!? Did I miss a news story declaring a 285 embargo or something? I'm in the UK with the BFG GTX285 OCX. I don't remember having to swap briefcases with men in trench coats by the docks, I didn't have to bribe any customs officials nor was it wrapped in a condom and swallowed by an eastern European to be "retrieved" later. In fact, there are several models available in the UK. Believe it or not we've also been enjoying the internal combustion engine and running water for years!!
Oh and both the GTX285 and 5850 are at least ú50-ú100 above OP's budget.
You're lucky you got one. Same problem is plaguing the new 58** series from ATI - availability sucks :(. I live in the UK, also worked a bit in a hardware store (so I know a bit about availability and stock waiting lists). You'd be surprised how hard it is to get one a 285. Their fab process is a pain in the rear meaning batches are low, and availability is low.
TSMC, the manufacturer for nVidia's (Fermi) and ATI's (5800 series) 40nm process chips is having some serious technical issues. First they had insufficient production capacity, and now that their new fabs are coming online the yields are terrible (as in 50% or so). So expect the 5800 series cards to be in short supply for the next couple of months and nVidia's Fermi will have the exact same issues unless TSMC can resolve the issues they've been having.
News Article link
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stoicfaux
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Posted - 2009.12.07 17:24:00 -
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Originally by: SpaceMagic So Currently im Building my own computer i so far have the following: im Looking to get a geforce graphics card i have a ú180 budget needs to be SLi (for future upgrade) so if anyone has any good advide on what graphics card pls let me know...
Try http://www.tomshardware.com. They have huge GPU comparison charts and a simplified hierarchy of GPUs based on price and performance.
As others have stated, having a good PSU is critical for the bigger cards and SLI.
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dr doooo
University of Caille
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Posted - 2009.12.07 21:58:00 -
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here's another Tom's hardware link for a review of the major gpu options in your price range, (and overclocking potential if that is of any interest to you, but still a useful review even if it's not).
The gtx 275 is really the only geforce option that fits your price range as far as I can see. I am also in the process of getting a new computer together, and am thinking along the lines of an i5 750 cpu and HD 5770 gpu, so I am curious as to your reasons for specifying a geforce gpu (am I missing something?).
As to the whole 'sli at a later date' thing? Has anyone ever actually done that instead of just getting a new gpu? I bought into that whole thing when crossfire/sli first came out, but from the bang for your buck perspective, it never actually made sense to add a card when the 'later date' arrived , instead of just getting an up to date card. Wouldn't a current top of the range card be better than 2 ú180 cards in crossfire/sli?
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Manu Hermanus
FaDoyToy
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Posted - 2009.12.07 23:47:00 -
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dammit you guys just made me go look around on newegg for a couple hours
You're posting again!? Has it really been 5 mins?
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SpaceMagic
Amarr The Arrow Project
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Posted - 2009.12.08 00:53:00 -
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hey guys thanks for the replys i might go on and have a look at the 5850 considering it has directx11 surrpot :)
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