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Armoured C
Gallente Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2009.12.08 21:27:00 -
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Originally by: Lightningshade Hi
In order to preserve some integrity - I would like to see a direct post from Riven as to your sphere of influence and your actual executive powers please.
this i would like to see , just to see how tight your reins are
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Lightningshade
Caldari The Athiest Syndicate Advocated Destruction
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Posted - 2009.12.08 21:30:00 -
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Originally by: Armoured C
Originally by: Lightningshade Hi
In order to preserve some integrity - I would like to see a direct post from Riven as to your sphere of influence and your actual executive powers please.
this i would like to see , just to see how tight your reins are
Well, may take a while. But at least I can't be shouted at by him anymore...well guess I could
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Major Riven
Federation of Freedom Fighters
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Posted - 2009.12.08 22:43:00 -
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Commander Rice has taken over ALL Merc business and is in TOTAL control of Payments, Terms, and in the matter of failed contracts refunds as well if he feels they are called for. I have stayed out of this thread its the concern of the person I put in charge of it to handle it.
Major Riven
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Commander Rice
Federation of Freedom Fighters
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Posted - 2009.12.08 22:47:00 -
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This is my official statement regarding the client Paul Clavet. I have issues a refund of 350mil, as that is what I have found to be the full cost of what was taken from him by Damien.
I hope this is sufficient to start the process of clearing F-OFF's name. It is my first act of turning the tides of new management, not new PR.
-Rice
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Michael Hoare
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Posted - 2009.12.08 23:44:00 -
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I would like to see Paul Clavett make a post confirming your refund. Then I would like to ask what you intend to do about the other people whose money you have taken without even attempting to fulfill their contracts? You have already identified me (incorrectly) as the alt of one of these unsatisfied customers in an earlier post, do you intend to refund that money as well?
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w1ldt4ngent
SWARTA
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Posted - 2009.12.08 23:58:00 -
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Originally by: Michael Hoare I would like to see Paul Clavett make a post confirming your refund. Then I would like to ask what you intend to do about the other people whose money you have taken without even attempting to fulfill their contracts? You have already identified me (incorrectly) as the alt of one of these unsatisfied customers in an earlier post, do you intend to refund that money as well?
Not even bothering to respond to my criticism of your reviews basically tells me all I need to know. Care to tell us who these other clients are? Or are you just talking out of your ass again?
Still think you're a troll. ___________________________ Swartans! Tonight we dine in Hek! |
Roastedpot
Blutkinder
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Posted - 2009.12.08 23:59:00 -
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Originally by: Commander Rice This is my official statement regarding the client Paul Clavet. I have issues a refund of 350mil, as that is what I have found to be the full cost of what was taken from him by Damien.
I hope this is sufficient to start the process of clearing F-OFF's name. It is my first act of turning the tides of new management, not new PR.
-Rice
+10 ok points, would be more but paul is a creeper
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Commander Rice
Federation of Freedom Fighters
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Posted - 2009.12.09 01:10:00 -
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Originally by: w1ldt4ngent Commander Rice, I believe you will do a fine job as F-OFF's new contract manager, and will consider your corporation for future merc work if I so require it.
Thank you for your support. I look forward to working with you and fulfilling contracts for you.
Originally by: Roastedpot +10 ok points, would be more but paul is a creeper
Agreed.
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Armoured C
Gallente Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2009.12.09 08:37:00 -
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Now you need to move to step 2, recruitment. You need more active members. To complete contracts, you do seem lacking in terms of active people.
I have full confidence that your the shake up that foff needs, it seems riven has given you the leache in terms of merc contract and now all you need is the bodies to helf fufill said contractts.
I suggest you start with something like 4 free contracts which would take you up to a month so that you can show off your efficientcy since the last few week. It has been terrible.
That's the last of the advice I will be giving in this thread. As I to am in a merc corp, I trust you will do well , start off with just war dec fee's or free contracts to get your efficienty up and back in the positive light in terms of available mercs and hope that the leadership does leave you to it, as if they really are not and do have you on tight rein then foff won't be able to preform as a merc group as your not in the position to do important decisions.
Good luck and hope you do it right this time
O7
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Lightningshade
Caldari The Athiest Syndicate Advocated Destruction
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Posted - 2009.12.09 16:56:00 -
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In mu opinion, knowing that you have your CEO's backing and executive powers with the merc wallet and the decision making powers, you are now on the road to potential success.
I wish you the best of luck
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JordanParey
Minmatar Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2009.12.09 19:16:00 -
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Just posting to say that if you guys are going to do a few freebies in order to show off your killing prowess, I'd like to be first in line; I can think of a few targets.
(No, they won't be impossible to locate or hard to kill.)
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Commander Rice
Federation of Freedom Fighters
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Posted - 2009.12.10 01:39:00 -
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I have no problem delivering a few freebies, but first thing is first. We do have one contract going active that will take priority over anything else for the time being. Then we have some other plans in the work but I will keep the public informed of our operations and make sure the promotional offer is put out in the near future.
I look forward to these new changes and making a troubled past dissipate.
-Rice
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Mahke
Aeon Of Strife
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Posted - 2009.12.10 03:23:00 -
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Originally by: Commander Rice Unlike my predecessor I wish to provide customer service to those who I assist in negotiating contracts with. I will attempt to do a significantly better job than the last "face" of F-OFF, as he was so popularly called.
Your last "face" is the only one of you who made a real and consistent attempt to execute your contracts. It's not his PR skills that caused the lashback at you guys, but, how little offensive work you do on contract (although your prices are pretty low so get what you pay for I guess). Damien did more for your reputation than any "PR" ever could: he actually went out of his way to pvp while you guys were on contract (which really shouldn't be that unique or special, but is).
Heh. I remember when we had to go to bring the fight to the system you were basing out of after you decced us to get a decent battle. That was sad, was looking forward to more fights during that war.
Don't blame damien for your reputation problems. Get your participation up during wars and they'll go away on their own.
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Paul Clavet
Honorless Internet Jerks
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Posted - 2009.12.11 03:37:00 -
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Sorry for the late response. I haven't been on a computer in a couple of days.
I can't get my Eve client to patch to log on, but my API reports a bump in my wallet consistent with a 350 million ISK refund.
My two demands were a refund and apology.
Refund? Check.
Apology? Well, at least an admittance of wrongdoing, which combined with the refund constitutes an apology, of sorts. Check.
I am not likely to hire F-OFF again until I see some results and testimonials from satisfied clients. The settlement, while months late and interest-free, is at least enough to show that F-OFF is attempting to regain some credibility after the free-fall failscade of the former (current?) reign of DamienEx.
In closing, I wish F-OFF all the best but would still urge customers to hold their payments until after the work has been completed.
(Paul Clavet drives his surveillance van into the sunset. As he vanishes beyond the horizon, you can hear a faint fapping sound...) ---- Blog: My Loot, Your Tears |
Roastedpot
Blutkinder
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Posted - 2009.12.11 04:23:00 -
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Originally by: Paul Clavet (Paul Clavet drives his surveillance van into the sunset. As he vanishes beyond the horizon, you can hear a faint fapping sound...)
and an epic finale to eve's biggest creeper haha
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JordanParey
Minmatar Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2009.12.11 09:42:00 -
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Originally by: Paul Clavet
(Paul Clavet drives his surveillance van into the sunset. As he vanishes beyond the horizon, you can hear a faint fapping sound...)
Knowing Paul for more than a year due to his time in SN, I can assure the denizens of C+P that Paul REALLY WOULD do that.
I wonder if the police would issue a DWF (Drving While Fapping) ticket?
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Hellfury Resurrected
Incura HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2009.12.11 09:48:00 -
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Dibs on 2nd free contract? -------------------------------------------
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DeathCamper
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Posted - 2009.12.11 10:41:00 -
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Next step should be to allow Cosmo/Hurley/Marti and NuNu back in Corp. to continue to add creditability back to F-FOFF.
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Commander Rice
Federation of Freedom Fighters
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Posted - 2009.12.11 22:39:00 -
[79]
Bump for the thread.
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Lyris Nairn
Caldari Hashimoto Corporation
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Posted - 2009.12.12 06:53:00 -
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Free bump to our honourable enemies.
Having been on the receiving end of an F-OFF wardec for the past several days, I have the following to say about them:
Good Activity! They hunt their target 23/7. I have left my computer to tend to housework or run to the store, come back and still been camped by either the same person or someone else. Only once in the past three days have I been able to undock without having to fly past or fight through one of these guys.
Good Attentiveness! These guys are pretty sharp about finding people. Upon getting away from one of them, I often find myself in an adjacent system with one of them, and within a half-hour or so of fully escaping the group of them in an Interceptor, I have been found again.
Good Spirit! These guys are willing to engage. Whether it's 1v1 or 4v1, they are willing to lay down the fire on a target.
Good Fights! These guys know how to fit ships effectively. I've had a blast going against them.
My only complaint against the boys of F-OFF is the rudeness of their leaders. While the men actually flying and fighting are polite or silent (i.e., behave themselves professionally), the leadership tends to be both crass and rude in local. One supposes this is a great front to project if one is a mercenary corporation (i.e., intimidate the enemy), but I can't be sure it's an act. Time will tell if they are actually as disrespectful as I have seen them.
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Suladriel
Caldari Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2009.12.12 11:46:00 -
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I was winding up an old eve friend about joining F-OFF a week or so ago to the point where we sort of don't talk anymore
I had not seen the negative threads about F-OFF and can now see where my winding up had touched a nerve.... sorry for that m8, I can see why you got upset... The kb stats are aweful though
Anyway, onto my real point. It seems that the new face of F-OFF is doing a great job and he articulates himself very well, coming off very professionally. I commend you for this. I have some very old friends who have recently joined F-OFF in the new blood so to speak and I wish them well and I hope they find the fun that they are after.
I can vouch for their credibility and hope that F-OFF do manage to rebuild their collective reputation. Though I fear for them that it may be a very long process.
Best of luck. Commander Rice +1 you are doing a great job so far, keep it up My old friends +1 I hope you enjoy the YARR -------------- .___. {O,o} /)__) -"-"- O RLY?
I'm not famous, nor infamous.
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Commander Rice
Federation of Freedom Fighters
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Posted - 2009.12.12 22:08:00 -
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Originally by: Lyris Nairn Upon perusing their killboard, I have concluded that they do not post all of their losses.
This is a negative mark.
I will not fling poo here or get into details; an interested user will do their own search of public resources.
Caveat emptor
I have checked the killboard and I have checked the corp list for kills/losses and I see all of our losses posted. Seeing as our kill board does API pulls, whether or not the original killer/loser posts the mail or not, it will be updated automatically.
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Pathfinda75
Caldari Federation of Freedom Fighters
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Posted - 2009.12.17 11:48:00 -
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.........annnnnnnd FACE! |
Michael Hoare
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Posted - 2009.12.17 17:52:00 -
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Quote: I have checked the killboard and I have checked the corp list for kills/losses and I see all of our losses posted. Seeing as our kill board does API pulls, whether or not the original killer/loser posts the mail or not, it will be updated automatically.
EDIT: I was just informed that the API on our killboard is broken, which would explain any missing loss mails.
Let me get this straight. . . You claim, with righteous indignation, that your killboard is 100% accurate because your kills are posted automatically via API. . . but only a moment later you state that the API function is 'broken'.
So your detractors are correct, you DO lie on your killboards! Funny how it is only your losses that seem to not get reported. . . .
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Commander Rice
Federation of Freedom Fighters
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Posted - 2009.12.17 18:04:00 -
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Edited by: Commander Rice on 17/12/2009 18:04:14 Considering API issues happen often, including after large patches, its not strange for this to happen. I didn't feel the need to announce that "the kill board has been fixed" but for your sake I will announce that the kill board has been fixed and all mails are up to date. Anything else I can help you with?
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JordanParey
Minmatar Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2009.12.17 18:08:00 -
[86]
Originally by: Michael Hoare
Quote: I have checked the killboard and I have checked the corp list for kills/losses and I see all of our losses posted. Seeing as our kill board does API pulls, whether or not the original killer/loser posts the mail or not, it will be updated automatically.
EDIT: I was just informed that the API on our killboard is broken, which would explain any missing loss mails.
Let me get this straight. . . You claim, with righteous indignation, that your killboard is 100% accurate because your kills are posted automatically via API. . . but only a moment later you state that the API function is 'broken'.
So your detractors are correct, you DO lie on your killboards! Funny how it is only your losses that seem to not get reported. . . .
The edit he made was not "a moment" later, but 32 minutes later. More than enough time for him to link the post to a CEO and discover that API isn't working.
Boards with API auto-updates seem to malfunction every so often, and I know for a fact that there are times where Suddenly Ninjas' KB was in need of manual uploading due to a broken auto-uploader.
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Lightningshade
Caldari The Athiest Syndicate Advocated Destruction
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Posted - 2009.12.17 18:11:00 -
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Edited by: Lightningshade on 17/12/2009 18:12:32
Originally by: Michael Hoare
Quote: I have checked the killboard and I have checked the corp list for kills/losses and I see all of our losses posted. Seeing as our kill board does API pulls, whether or not the original killer/loser posts the mail or not, it will be updated automatically.
EDIT: I was just informed that the API on our killboard is broken, which would explain any missing loss mails.
Let me get this straight. . . You claim, with righteous indignation, that your killboard is 100% accurate because your kills are posted automatically via API. . . but only a moment later you state that the API function is 'broken'.
So your detractors are correct, you DO lie on your killboards! Funny how it is only your losses that seem to not get reported. . . .
Oh no - something technical failed! Do you currently live in an environment where EVERYTHING that involves any form of technology works 100% of the time?
32 mins later - not a "moment" as you put it. You really are a horrible little cretin.
EDIT: I also see a few questions asked of you, but yet you seem to side step them. Any particular reason for this?
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w1ldt4ngent
SWARTA
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Posted - 2009.12.17 20:53:00 -
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Originally by: Lightningshade Edited by: Lightningshade on 17/12/2009 18:12:32 EDIT: I also see a few questions asked of you, but yet you seem to side step them. Any particular reason for this?
Perhaps being a faceless alt only capable of making straw-man arguments has something to do with it? He knows he's wrong but is doing his best to ignore. ___________________________ Swartans! Tonight we dine in Hek! |
Lightningshade
Caldari The Athiest Syndicate Advocated Destruction
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Posted - 2009.12.17 21:05:00 -
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Originally by: w1ldt4ngent
Originally by: Lightningshade Edited by: Lightningshade on 17/12/2009 18:12:32 EDIT: I also see a few questions asked of you, but yet you seem to side step them. Any particular reason for this?
Perhaps being a faceless alt only capable of making straw-man arguments has something to do with it? He knows he's wrong but is doing his best to ignore.
He could be Joe's alt - although MH shows a slightly better understanding of the English language.
Regardless of the fact, alt is a cretin and thus so the main will be.
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Yakov Draken
Minmatar Tides Of War
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Posted - 2009.12.17 22:02:00 -
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Originally by: Commander Rice This is my official statement regarding the client Paul Clavet. I have issues a refund of 350mil, as that is what I have found to be the full cost of what was taken from him by Damien.
Wow -
So the C&P posters have convinced the leadership of F-OFF to backtrack - [to paraphrase Rice] "If I refund the isk I'll get booted." So thanks to the good (*cough cough*) citizens of C&P Commander Rice now has the power to do his job.
It is really nice (suprisingy?) how F-off have been shown so much forgiveness and understanding by the C&P community but how can you trust a leadership which needs the C&P denzins to *convince* them to do the right thing? I smell drama on the winds.
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