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Syppy
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Posted - 2009.12.07 19:12:00 -
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I'm looking to possibly get a Netbook to replace my old outdated laptop (which wouldn't run EVE because of old graphics card), and I'm looking at one of the HP Mini's.
Anyone know if it'll run, or have any experience with running EVE on a Netbook?
Sippi
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Tiberizzle
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Posted - 2009.12.07 19:16:00 -
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On a related note, I am looking for a subcompact, or perhaps a sport compact, that can tow at least 8000lbs offroad while seating 8. Do you guys think a Miata with a bumper hitch can handle it?
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Jalson
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Posted - 2009.12.07 19:20:00 -
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Netbooks are made for web browsing and picture viewing.....don't expect any game to run well on one. Your old outdated laptop would probably still run eve better.
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CavoFury1
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Posted - 2009.12.07 19:31:00 -
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most of the netbooks you'll be able to log in. Chat. Use the markets. Haul(in empire). And maybe mine.
If that's all you want to do with it. Sure.
If you want to PVP with it, tripple your cost and get a laptop with a decent video card on it.
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Ferrowyn
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Posted - 2009.12.07 19:31:00 -
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A buddy of mine has played EVE on a netbook...he had crazy issues with overheating though as it has very little cooling ability.
Probably not the best idea if you don't want to fry your video card within the first few days
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randomname4me
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Posted - 2009.12.07 19:34:00 -
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Edited by: randomname4me on 07/12/2009 19:34:12 Don't think of a netbook as a small cheep laptop, they are more along the lines of expensive folding PDA
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Syppy
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Posted - 2009.12.07 19:40:00 -
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Yeah, not looking for major PVP and such, I can do that when I get home, but for simple tasks while on the road (chatting, skill queueing, mining, markets).
I'm looking at one like this: http://tinyurl.com/kuewuy
Whattya think?
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Verone
Gallente Veto Corp
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Posted - 2009.12.07 19:42:00 -
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Originally by: Ferrowyn Probably not the best idea if you don't want to fry your video card within the first few days
That's the issue, they don't have a video card.
Most netbooks are based around the Intel GMA series Integrated Graphics chipset, usually the 945/950.
I have an Asus E-1000H, with 2GB ram, a solid state hard disk and a 2GHz CPU overclock and I'm lucky to get 10FPS outside a station after recent patches at minimum settings.
They're ideal if you're on the move and just want to log in to stay docked, talk to corp mates and swap skills, but anything more intensive and the GMA chipsets can't handle it. They're not designed at all for any form of demanding gaming.
You're better off saving up and grabbing another laptop to be honest, or saving and investing in a decent desktop.
Netbooks aren't the way to go at all for gaming.
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Verone
Gallente Veto Corp
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Posted - 2009.12.07 19:45:00 -
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Originally by: Syppy Yeah, not looking for major PVP and such, I can do that when I get home, but for simple tasks while on the road (chatting, skill queueing, mining, markets).
I'm looking at one like this: http://tinyurl.com/kuewuy
Whattya think?
Fine for internets browsing and skill changing, and perfectly fine for being on the road.
Nvidia Ion gives a little more flexibility to the graphics side of things, but not much.
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Druadan
BLAM Industries
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Posted - 2009.12.07 19:45:00 -
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Originally by: Verone
Originally by: Ferrowyn Probably not the best idea if you don't want to fry your video card within the first few days
That's the issue, they don't have a video card.
Most netbooks are based around the Intel GMA series Integrated Graphics chipset, usually the 945/950.
I have an Asus E-1000H, with 2GB ram, a solid state hard disk and a 2GHz CPU overclock and I'm lucky to get 10FPS outside a station after recent patches at minimum settings.
They're ideal if you're on the move and just want to log in to stay docked, talk to corp mates and swap skills, but anything more intensive and the GMA chipsets can't handle it. They're not designed at all for any form of demanding gaming.
You're better off saving up and grabbing another laptop to be honest, or saving and investing in a decent desktop.
Netbooks aren't the way to go at all for gaming.
This. Cannot stress the extent to which Verone is spot on here. Trying to run EVE outside a station on a netbook is going to result in nothing but disappointment. Sig removed, inappropriate content. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint |
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Sythyss
Internal Anarchy
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Posted - 2009.12.07 20:11:00 -
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just wanted to say I just got an HP Mini 311 (really wanted the asus 1201n coming out in a couple months but couldn't wait =/)
anyways, get something with an ION graphics card and you'll be fine. sure, I'm running everything at low settings, but I can even pvp as long as there aren't a zillion things going on.
btw, that asus will have a dual-core processor =D
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Kyra Felann
Gallente Noctis Fleet Technologies
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Posted - 2009.12.07 20:14:00 -
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Edited by: Kyra Felann on 07/12/2009 20:17:31 I don't think you have the proper assumptions about netbooks. They are made for getting on the internet with a very light, small device. They are not gaming machines. They are not replacements for a standard laptop. I think if you get one expecting to be able to do everything you can do with a normal laptop, you're going to be disappointed.
If you're wanting to replace your old laptop, I'd get a new laptop, not a netbook. Think of a netbook as halfway between a smartphone/blackberry/iphone/droid/pda and a normal laptop, not as a small, cheap laptop.
That said, you may be able to run EVE on one, but I'm sure performance wouldn't be good, since they're not designed for gaming.
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Max Hardcase
Art of War Cult of War
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Posted - 2009.12.07 20:18:00 -
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Cant you get some 15" laptop deal with a slightly outdated CPU + discrete mobile gfx solution in that price range ? IMHO netbooks cost too much for what they offer.
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Mr Kidd
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Posted - 2009.12.08 02:48:00 -
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Edited by: Mr Kidd on 08/12/2009 02:52:16 I have an acer aspire one with the n270 atom. It'll run Eve but don't expect to be able to do anything productive. If you want to sit and chat, change skills, clean the hanger it's fine at lowest graphics settings. Undocking...well...no. Your fps will drop so bad as to make it unplayable.
Quote: Netbooks are made for web browsing and picture viewing.....don't expect any game to run well on one. Your old outdated laptop would probably still run eve better.
This is patently not true. There are a number of older games that netbooks play flawlessly while older pIII laptops crash and burn. I've put Quake II on my aspire one and it plays smoothly without problems. There are game lists demonstrating playability on the net for some netbooks.
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Voltairine DeCleyre
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.12.08 03:14:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Kidd Edited by: Mr Kidd on 08/12/2009 02:52:16 I have an acer aspire one with the n270 atom. It'll run Eve but don't expect to be able to do anything productive. If you want to sit and chat, change skills, clean the hanger it's fine at lowest graphics settings. Undocking...well...no. Your fps will drop so bad as to make it unplayable.
Quote: Netbooks are made for web browsing and picture viewing.....don't expect any game to run well on one. Your old outdated laptop would probably still run eve better.
This is patently not true. There are a number of older games that netbooks play flawlessly while older pIII laptops crash and burn. I've put Quake II on my aspire one and it plays smoothly without problems. There are game lists demonstrating playability on the net for some netbooks.
Quake II? My goodness, they are able to run some cutting-edge stuff, for sure.
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Omar Kuvakei
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.12.08 03:55:00 -
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Originally by: Voltairine DeCleyre Quake II? My goodness, they are able to run some cutting-edge stuff, for sure.
Stop trying to be a ****. The point isn't that the games they can play are cutting edge, the point is that Netbooks can play some games (often popular games) perfectly well - contrary to popular belief (and often their own marketing) they're capable of more than just web browsing if you're reasonable about what you do with them.
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Drilla
Yet Another Mining Corp
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Posted - 2009.12.08 09:01:00 -
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Buy a MSI GX629 :)
Else if you want the small 10-12" Netbooks - get one based on the AMD Congo which will make EVE playable on a Netbook with Radeon 3200 IGP.
Asus, Acer etc. all have a Netbook based on AMD Congo - I think Asus' is named 1201T or something. .
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Kyra Felann
Gallente Noctis Fleet Technologies
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Posted - 2009.12.08 09:52:00 -
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Edited by: Kyra Felann on 08/12/2009 09:54:54 Edited by: Kyra Felann on 08/12/2009 09:54:35
Originally by: Omar Kuvakei Stop trying to be a ****. The point isn't that the games they can play are cutting edge, the point is that Netbooks can play some games (often popular games) perfectly well - contrary to popular belief (and often their own marketing) they're capable of more than just web browsing if you're reasonable about what you do with them.
I don't think anyone was saying they can't run 10-year old games. I'm sure they can. My Linux Dell Mini 10 comes with lots of games. They in no way resemble a modern 3D game, though. I'm sure it can run NES games on an emulator also, but that's not relevant to this thread.
I think when people talk about whether or not a netbook can run games or not, they're talking about modern ones. The fact is that while netbooks can obviously run games with low resource demands, they are not intended for gaming.
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Makarrov
Blue Republic
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Posted - 2009.12.08 09:59:00 -
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You could log in an chat while planning your skills but thats about it. It would be a little crazy to undock if on a netbook. The main thing I would worry about when playing EVE on a netbook is heat issues. Theres a good chance you could burn something up if running EVE for more then a hour or so. I would save up a few hundred extra dollars or wait for taxes to get a real laptop. Laptops these day are almost equal as a desktop in terms of power and meant to be used as one where netbooks are pretty much made for checking email and looking at ****.
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Drilla
Yet Another Mining Corp
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Posted - 2009.12.08 10:47:00 -
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Just found the netbook you want for EVE Online:
http://www.msi.com/index.php?func=proddesc&maincat_no=135&prod_no=1928
Dual-Core CPU and Radeon 3200 so EVE can function. .
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CCP StevieSG
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Posted - 2009.12.08 10:50:00 -
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Moved to Out of Pod from EVE General.
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Karma
Vortex Incorporated
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Posted - 2009.12.08 11:49:00 -
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Edited by: Karma on 08/12/2009 11:49:37 I bought a Compaq Mini 110c-1011SO a few months ago, and while it is an AWESOME machine, and technically able to run EVE... you'll be doing so with the lowest of low graphics, and even then it'll be rather choppy. you wont want to get into a fight on it. But, if all you want is to chat and change skills, then it's perfect.
I use mine primarily for work and oldschool gaming. (currently playing the Fallout 1, Mechwarrior 2 and Simon the Sorcerer series ;)
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Coumarin
Golden Clover Astrogeologists Revival Of The Talocan Empire
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Posted - 2009.12.08 12:59:00 -
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i bought a netbook and after trying to play eve and that... whats it called... stardock game... well the space game from stardock - i got so ****ed off at the general level can't-do-it-ness that was going on with the device that i bought myself a 1800e gaming laptop from asus. Haven't looked back :P
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Mr Kidd
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Posted - 2009.12.08 17:52:00 -
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Originally by: Coumarin i bought a netbook and after trying to play eve and that... whats it called... stardock game... well the space game from stardock - i got so ****ed off at the general level can't-do-it-ness that was going on with the device that i bought myself a 1800e gaming laptop from asus. Haven't looked back :P
Obviously if the op wants gaming & mobility, a gaming laptop is what is needed, not a netbook. My reason for a netbook was simple: I'm going to college and I wanted something I could throw in my book bag on top of the 40lbs of books I have to carry around without adding an additional 5 - 10lbs to it all plus another carry case for a laptop. For that purpose a netbook is king. I've had dozens of other students (when I first got it 1.5 years ago) want to test out my netbook, tired of carrying around a laptop+carry case+bookbag. And now I see netbooks all over campus.
If the OP wants gaming + a netbook's small size then I'm sure there are products out there that will meet those requirements although the price is going to be substantially higher.
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Sythyss
Internal Anarchy
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Posted - 2009.12.08 18:10:00 -
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I really don't know what you guys are talking about. My netbook was $400 and it runs call of duty 4 over 30 FPS, albeit low settings, but still. You'd be surprised :P
As I said...look for the Asus 1201N coming out soon. Best netbook ever =]
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KingsGambit
Caldari Knights
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Posted - 2009.12.08 19:55:00 -
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Verone and Mr Kidd summed up quite well what most people are saying, and sprinkled in a dash of first hand experience. To reiterate, run with all settings on lowest, you'll be able to log in, change skills and if you can abide a little lag and a small screen, sort out some market orders, factory or lab jobs. Chat should be fine too, but the machine will struggle with travelling outside of station and it will be all but unplayable.
If you wanted to play simple or older games, while it wouldn't be as smooth as a full-fledged desktop let alone a gaming PC, you could probably comfortably play them. Simple games like World of Goo, Braid and the like aren't particularly taxing to hardware and older titles (ie. DX7 and older) should be fairly playable too.
Don't depend on it being particularly good at gaming, but it's your laptop, so feel free to experiment. -------------
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Syppy
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Posted - 2009.12.08 22:11:00 -
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Edited by: Syppy on 08/12/2009 22:13:10
Originally by: Mr Kidd
Originally by: Coumarin i bought a netbook and after trying to play eve and that... whats it called... stardock game... well the space game from stardock - i got so ****ed off at the general level can't-do-it-ness that was going on with the device that i bought myself a 1800e gaming laptop from asus. Haven't looked back :P
Obviously if the op wants gaming & mobility, a gaming laptop is what is needed, not a netbook. My reason for a netbook was simple: I'm going to college and I wanted something I could throw in my book bag on top of the 40lbs of books I have to carry around without adding an additional 5 - 10lbs to it all plus another carry case for a laptop. For that purpose a netbook is king. I've had dozens of other students (when I first got it 1.5 years ago) want to test out my netbook, tired of carrying around a laptop+carry case+bookbag. And now I see netbooks all over campus.
If the OP wants gaming + a netbook's small size then I'm sure there are products out there that will meet those requirements although the price is going to be substantially higher.
Well, actually price was a pretty big deciding factor in it. And like I said, I don't mind the Stardock gaming bit, I can most of the real stuff when I get home. Just need something for short periods when I need to line up skills or throw a quick chat to my corp. The netbook seemed nice for it because of it's compact size, but also because of a discount I'd get on a subsidized one through my cell carrier. I just hoped that it would at least let me install the game (the old lappy wouldn't even do that). Something about Shader 2 something or other....
But with all the discussion, I think I'ma save up a few hundred more dollars and get an actual laptop for this purpose, because if I decide to go out and fill up a cargo hold with some ore while I'm sitting there working, I"d like to be able to at least get out of dock and to the asteroids without issue.
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Vaneshi SnowCrash
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Posted - 2009.12.10 04:48:00 -
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I've an MSI Wind clone (Akoya E1210). It's a Hackintosh but there you go. It ran EVE AP 1.5 fine. However as others have said it wasn't something you could do anything exciting with: mine a bit, carebear around highsec, chat... that sort of thing.
That's with the usual overclock and something called GMABooster giving the 945 a quick kick... it helps... a little.
No, I wouldn't replace a laptop with a netbook, you'll be really disapointed if you don't have a dedicated machine to game on.
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Liang Nuren
No Salvation War.Pigs.
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Posted - 2009.12.10 04:55:00 -
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I've got some friends that play nethack on netbooks
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