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Flaming Rabbit
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Posted - 2009.12.10 07:47:00 -
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So the other day I got to thinking. If people in the real world understood that their tears(aka when people whine, go out of their way to defend their ego etc...) are funny and a general source of amusement to other people wouldn't that make the world a better place?? I think this realization is the most important lesson I have learned from playing eve. Discuss.
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Intense Thinker
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.12.10 07:49:00 -
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*Poors baking soda on the flaming rabbit*
Originally by: Hamshoe
Don't **** down my back and tell me it's raining.
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The Crushah
Gallente Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2009.12.10 07:57:00 -
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Unskilled and unaware of it: how difficulties in recognizing one's own incompetence lead to inflated self-assessments.
Kruger J, Dunning D.
J Pers Soc Psychol. 1999 Dec;77(6):1121-34.
People tend to hold overly favorable views of their abilities in many social and intellectual domains. The authors suggest that this overestimation occurs, in part, because people who are unskilled in these domains suffer a dual burden: Not only do these people reach erroneous conclusions and make unfortunate choices, but their incompetence robs them of the metacognitive ability to realize it. Across 4 studies, the authors found that participants scoring in the bottom quartile on tests of humor, grammar, and logic grossly overestimated their test performance and ability. Although their test scores put them in the 12th percentile, they estimated themselves to be in the 62nd. Several analyses linked this miscalibration to deficits in metacognitive skill, or the capacity to distinguish accuracy from error. Paradoxically, improving the skills of participants, and thus increasing their metacognitive competence, helped them recognize the limitations of their abilities.
tl;dr
Lots of people who act like morons are cognitively incapable of realizing they are acting like morons
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Lana Torrin
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2009.12.10 08:14:00 -
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Originally by: The Crushah
Lots of people who act like morons are cognitively incapable of realizing they are acting like morons
Originally by: Alekseyev Karrde
HYDRA PROVAIL!
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Shanitra Kerr
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Posted - 2009.12.10 08:19:00 -
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Originally by: Flaming Rabbit So the other day I got to thinking. If people in the real world understood that their tears(aka when people whine, go out of their way to defend their ego etc...) are funny and a general source of amusement to other people wouldn't that make the world a better place?? I think this realization is the most important lesson I have learned from playing eve. Discuss.
Congratulations. Now buy a gun and start shooting people. After all, you learned that in EVE, too.
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Lana Torrin
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2009.12.10 08:23:00 -
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Originally by: Shanitra Kerr
Originally by: Flaming Rabbit So the other day I got to thinking. If people in the real world understood that their tears(aka when people whine, go out of their way to defend their ego etc...) are funny and a general source of amusement to other people wouldn't that make the world a better place?? I think this realization is the most important lesson I have learned from playing eve. Discuss.
Congratulations. Now buy a gun and start shooting people. After all, you learned that in EVE, too.
He doesn't want to get concorded?
Originally by: Alekseyev Karrde
HYDRA PROVAIL!
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Consience
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Posted - 2009.12.10 09:15:00 -
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Originally by: Lana Torrin
Originally by: Shanitra Kerr
Originally by: Flaming Rabbit So the other day I got to thinking. If people in the real world understood that their tears(aka when people whine, go out of their way to defend their ego etc...) are funny and a general source of amusement to other people wouldn't that make the world a better place?? I think this realization is the most important lesson I have learned from playing eve. Discuss.
Congratulations. Now buy a gun and start shooting people. After all, you learned that in EVE, too.
He doesn't want to get concorded?
He could try lo-sec, Liverpool or Manchester maybe?
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TimMc
Gallente Psykotic Meat Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.12.10 10:45:00 -
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I prefer not to have the sec hit so lets PvP in nullsec... Somalia!
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Navtiqes
Space Sheriff
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Posted - 2009.12.10 11:47:00 -
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Originally by: TimMc I prefer not to have the sec hit so lets PvP in nullsec... Somalia!
But there's no good loot there!
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CCP StevieSG
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Posted - 2009.12.10 12:03:00 -
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Moved to Out of Pod from C&P
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Irida Mershkov
Gallente Honour Before Death
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Posted - 2009.12.10 12:13:00 -
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Originally by: Navtiqes
Originally by: TimMc I prefer not to have the sec hit so lets PvP in nullsec... Somalia!
But there's no good loot there!
You need to look harder son
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NEMESIS SIN
FURY.
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Posted - 2009.12.10 14:08:00 -
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Edited by: NEMESIS SIN on 10/12/2009 14:10:35
Originally by: The Crushah Unskilled and unaware of it: how difficulties in recognizing one's own incompetence lead to inflated self-assessments.
Kruger J, Dunning D.
J Pers Soc Psychol. 1999 Dec;77(6):1121-34.
People tend to hold overly favorable views of their abilities in many social and intellectual domains. The authors suggest that this overestimation occurs, in part, because people who are unskilled in these domains suffer a dual burden: Not only do these people reach erroneous conclusions and make unfortunate choices, but their incompetence robs them of the metacognitive ability to realize it. Across 4 studies, the authors found that participants scoring in the bottom quartile on tests of humor, grammar, and logic grossly overestimated their test performance and ability. Although their test scores put them in the 12th percentile, they estimated themselves to be in the 62nd. Several analyses linked this miscalibration to deficits in metacognitive skill, or the capacity to distinguish accuracy from error. Paradoxically, improving the skills of participants, and thus increasing their metacognitive competence, helped them recognize the limitations of their abilities.
tl;dr
Lots of people who act like morons are cognitively incapable of realizing they are acting like morons
You missed the part about self-denial verses delusions of godhood, both in game, and in real life
I shall quote the immortal offspring: Linkage
Everyone "wants" to see themselves a certain way, most of these people also know they are not what they wish they were. So they make up for it with epic denial. These people are also, more often then not, extremely vocal and loud when something comes along to ruin their pipe dreams.
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Zedrik Cayne
Gallente Standards and Practices
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Posted - 2009.12.10 19:26:00 -
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Originally by: The Crushah Unskilled and unaware of it: how difficulties in recognizing one's own incompetence lead to inflated self-assessments.
Kruger J, Dunning D.
J Pers Soc Psychol. 1999 Dec;77(6):1121-34.
People tend to hold overly favorable views of their abilities in many social and intellectual domains. The authors suggest that this overestimation occurs, in part, because people who are unskilled in these domains suffer a dual burden: Not only do these people reach erroneous conclusions and make unfortunate choices, but their incompetence robs them of the metacognitive ability to realize it. Across 4 studies, the authors found that participants scoring in the bottom quartile on tests of humor, grammar, and logic grossly overestimated their test performance and ability. Although their test scores put them in the 12th percentile, they estimated themselves to be in the 62nd. Several analyses linked this miscalibration to deficits in metacognitive skill, or the capacity to distinguish accuracy from error. Paradoxically, improving the skills of participants, and thus increasing their metacognitive competence, helped them recognize the limitations of their abilities.
tl;dr
Lots of people who act like morons are cognitively incapable of realizing they are acting like morons
For those of you looking to not read it...here: Have a nice explanation. --
Originally by: "RedSplat" You're the internet equivalent of a Deepfried Mars bar filled with stupid.
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Grimpak
Gallente Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2009.12.10 19:31:00 -
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Originally by: Flaming Rabbit So the other day I got to thinking. If people in the real world understood that their tears(aka when people whine, go out of their way to defend their ego etc...) are funny and a general source of amusement to other people wouldn't that make the world a better place?? I think this realization is the most important lesson I have learned from playing eve. Discuss.
lost hope some time ago, now all I want is to see everything burn.
and I want front row seats ---
Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.
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NEMESIS SIN
FURY.
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Posted - 2009.12.10 20:50:00 -
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Edited by: NEMESIS SIN on 10/12/2009 20:58:35
Originally by: Zedrik Cayne
Originally by: The Crushah Unskilled and unaware of it: how difficulties in recognizing one's own incompetence lead to inflated self-assessments.
Kruger J, Dunning D.
J Pers Soc Psychol. 1999 Dec;77(6):1121-34.
People tend to hold overly favorable views of their abilities in many social and intellectual domains. The authors suggest that this overestimation occurs, in part, because people who are unskilled in these domains suffer a dual burden: Not only do these people reach erroneous conclusions and make unfortunate choices, but their incompetence robs them of the metacognitive ability to realize it. Across 4 studies, the authors found that participants scoring in the bottom quartile on tests of humor, grammar, and logic grossly overestimated their test performance and ability. Although their test scores put them in the 12th percentile, they estimated themselves to be in the 62nd. Several analyses linked this miscalibration to deficits in metacognitive skill, or the capacity to distinguish accuracy from error. Paradoxically, improving the skills of participants, and thus increasing their metacognitive competence, helped them recognize the limitations of their abilities.
tl;dr
Lots of people who act like morons are cognitively incapable of realizing they are acting like morons
For those of you looking to not read it...here: Have a nice explanation.
Holy elitist rationalizations
Is that how "competent people" rationalize their own delusions of grandeur? I can now scientifically prove I am more competent (and thus better then you) because Dunning-kruger has now scientifically proven that it is the case.
That same study says that training in social reasoning can make even the lowest scoring "sub-humans" more accurate in not only their own self-assessments, but also the assessments of others. Suggesting that the outcome of that study can be traced back to being "trained" and/or "untrained".
AKA, people who are willing to excel in something, or people who are so damn lazy that they just don't care to try.
When I am in a debate and the other person is doing everything they can to win . . . its not because they think they are right, it is only because they want to win. They don't care if they are right, or if their chess pieces are gone. They are smart enough to know that if they get me to ask the wrong questions, they no longer have to worry about the answers to those questions.
Metacognition could only be a highly circumstantial phenomena, interpreted by a society to rationalize their own "competence" over others. A pseudoscience, of which its role could only be used by the educated to make themselves feel higher then the next person, because it can be proven scientifically.
These guys totally missed the most fundamental aspect of the human Psyche, people see themselves as they want to see themselves, and they hide behind the veil of their own delusions. Those more gifted with more rational thought processes, only find it more difficult to hide behind the half truths that their own thought processes cook up. They often do so to such a degree, that they underestimate themselves as a factor of inherently lower self-esteem, then the fools who are content to live deeper within their own mentally generated illusions, because life simply looks nicer floating on cloud nine.
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Shasta Racka
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Posted - 2009.12.10 21:02:00 -
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Yeah, when my sister got killed by that drunk driver I totally should have just laughed it off instead of giving the griefer the tears he so desired.
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Jin Nib
Resplendent Knives
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Posted - 2009.12.11 02:31:00 -
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Originally by: Shasta Racka Yeah, when my sister got killed by that drunk driver I totally should have just laughed it off instead of giving the griefer the tears he so desired.
Oh ****! Where's my dup'otears? Greifed tears are the best kind, right behind tears of laughter.
OP is a sociopathic *****. -Jin Nib Trading on behalf of Opera Noir since: 2009.03.02 03:53:00
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KingsGambit
Caldari Knights
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Posted - 2009.12.11 09:34:00 -
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Originally by: CCP StevieSG Moved to Out of Pod from C&P
Why!? Why do the dregs from other forums have to be put here? Any chance of making a new forum called "Sewage" for threads like this? Please? -------------
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Lui Kai
Better Than You
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Posted - 2009.12.11 13:54:00 -
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Originally by: KingsGambit
Originally by: CCP StevieSG Moved to Out of Pod from C&P
Why!? Why do the dregs from other forums have to be put here? Any chance of making a new forum called "Sewage" for threads like this? Please?
No, the "Trash Bin" forum is "Features and Ideas Discussion." OOP is the....."special discussion" forum. ----------------
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Jago Kain
Amarr Ramm's RDI Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2009.12.11 14:13:00 -
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Originally by: Consience
Originally by: Lana Torrin
Originally by: Shanitra Kerr
Originally by: Flaming Rabbit So the other day I got to thinking. If people in the real world understood that their tears(aka when people whine, go out of their way to defend their ego etc...) are funny and a general source of amusement to other people wouldn't that make the world a better place?? I think this realization is the most important lesson I have learned from playing eve. Discuss.
Congratulations. Now buy a gun and start shooting people. After all, you learned that in EVE, too.
He doesn't want to get concorded?
He could try lo-sec, Liverpool or Manchester maybe?
I live near both of these and it isn't safe; the local pirates have bigger guns and there's too many of them. They don't warp scramble, but they will block the pavement and camp gates in the subways.
Also, it's not like there's any mining to be done up north anyway these days; all the decent 'roids were closed down years ago after the isk miners had that argument with Concord. ___________________________________________________ The game will never be over, because we're keeping the meme alive. |
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2009.12.11 14:45:00 -
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People don't complain or defend themselves against ridicule to entertain you, they do it to avoid becoming you. Someone who simply doesn't care and just float on whatever comes by.
Surrendering yourself to circumstance because standing up and trying to make a difference is hard isn't a lesson learned, it's class dismissed, game over.
Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
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