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Oxford Longman
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.06.19 10:48:00 -
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Just by typing the title I can feel the angry hordes forming to storm the battlements.....
Eve appears to be filled with players who passionately disagree about what Eve actually is or should be. The often used description of "Sand box" game Is used to reinforce whatever point the person is trying to make in each forum post often at the expense of the other. On and on process cycles.
I am tired of the endless pantomime cycle of "Hi sec is safe" ..." oh no it isn't" debates that fill the forums. ( what? like this one! quote .lol)
Is it time to split the game in two? Have an "eve-lite" for thoses who want to look at nice spaceship pixels and do safe missioning and stuff and have a separate main eve game that has no hi sec, only low sec and null sec - or just a game with null only?
But that will kill the game.... Which version? Which sand box?
Brb... Theres a large group of people at my door, hmmm..... Seem angry about something......
P.s.
Yes, I cant spell No, I won't show you on the doll.... No, I have no tears, Yes.... This is a alt , I'm not that crazy ( quote number 2)
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Pak Narhoo
Knights of Kador
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Posted - 2012.06.19 10:50:00 -
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And... here... we.... go. Hi, I'm CCP Arrow, I screwed up the.. ummm... |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2012.06.19 10:50:00 -
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Oxford Longman wrote:Is it time to split the game in two? Have an "eve-lite" for thoses who want to look at nice spaceship pixels and do safe missioning and stuff It's called Sisi.
No-one goes there because, predictably, it's entirely pointless. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
CONCORD spawns: quick enough to save you?
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Kacer Xenro
Team Pizza
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Posted - 2012.06.19 10:51:00 -
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Inbefore the shitstorm.
Look what happened to Ultima Online, or the wilderness in Runespace, you're bad and so is your idea. |
Mara Tessidar
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.06.19 10:51:00 -
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get out Eve Online: A Bad Game. |
Grumpy Owly
Paladin Philanthropists
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Posted - 2012.06.19 11:10:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Oxford Longman wrote:Is it time to split the game in two? Have an "eve-lite" for thoses who want to look at nice spaceship pixels and do safe missioning and stuff It's called Sisi. No-one goes there because, predictably, it's entirely pointless.
+1 with Tippia on this one, got to have risk and consequences for it to be meaningfull for me.
[cynicism]
Though I will agree there is merit to split the playerbase into two shards:
Shard 1: Mature players who are capable of respectfully extending the sandbox to others and understand the symbiosis of interests but can expect and accept some aspects of gameplay outside of their control.
Shard 2: Selfish Asshats with unhealthy Meta interests where "winning at all costs" is the only consideration.
Though I'm unsure wether it has a comercial future as realistically I would see shard 2 as a minority populace, but if it's sustainable?
[/cynicism]
Ideally as a playerbase however, we need to work at this together rather than entertaining and fueling any kind of "us and them" mentalities. Bounty Hunting, Soon Gäó
It's just criminal - Smuggling |
Solstice Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
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Posted - 2012.06.19 11:13:00 -
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In before ... ... the most electrifying man in AAAAALLLL OF ENTERT... no ... FORUMS !!!
Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2012.06.19 11:13:00 -
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Splitting will only mail it a fail box, not a sand box.
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ChromeStriker
The Riot Formation Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2012.06.19 11:14:00 -
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Fortunatly it wont work :) what makes eve work is its market, and the thing that drives it is people losing theyre ships. - Nulla Curas |
Lord Zim
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Posted - 2012.06.19 11:16:00 -
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Mara Tessidar wrote:get out
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Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.06.19 11:17:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:Mara Tessidar wrote:get out
brb |
Mersault
Blue Nine Industries
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Posted - 2012.06.19 11:24:00 -
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Yes OP it is indeed time for you to split the game.
Slang To depart from; leave: |
Washichu May
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.06.19 11:25:00 -
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Only thing that ruins the game is meta gaming. It's like punching someone in the face while playing backgammon. |
Ciar Meara
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2012.06.19 11:27:00 -
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Yes, lets name them Felucca and Trammel and the way from each to the other is wormholes.
Surely that ended well for UO. Oh wait. - [img]http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/janus/ceosig.jpg[/img] [yellow]English only please. Zymurgist[/yellow] |
Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
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Posted - 2012.06.19 11:27:00 -
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Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:Lord Zim wrote:Mara Tessidar wrote:get out
The universe is an ancient desert, a vast wasteland with only occasional habitable planets as oases. We Fremen, comfortable with deserts, shall now venture into another. - STILGAR, From the Sietch to the Stars. |
Cebraio
Starfire Oasis
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Posted - 2012.06.19 11:29:00 -
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Came here to say: get out. |
Virgil Travis
GWA Corp Unified Church of the Unobligated
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Posted - 2012.06.19 11:38:00 -
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Anyone who actually went to this other shard where nothing ever gets blown up and all people do is mine and other forms of PVE would soon realise that they wouldn't have much use for whatever amounts of ISK they could get into their wallets. Nothing would ever be destroyed, except for the odd mistake in missions and the market would nosedive into the ground.
I'd give it a month or two tops before they started wondering why they bothered. In reality I doubt that many would actually go there since a lot of those who do industrial stuff recognize and enjoy the aspects of the game that make their efforts pay off. Unified Church of the Unobligated - madness in the method |
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2012.06.19 11:41:00 -
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Only split that would ever be worth considering would be North American / Euro(Russian) with both shards continuing with the same rules and gameplay at inception.
The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom Epic Inferno Wardec Test, Sign up and shoot Goons for free! |
Lord Zim
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Posted - 2012.06.19 11:43:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote:Only split that would ever be worth considering would be North American / Euro(Russian) with both shards continuing with the same rules and gameplay at inception. Get out. |
Ciar Meara
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
679
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Posted - 2012.06.19 11:46:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote:Only split that would ever be worth considering would be North American / Euro(Russian) with both shards continuing with the same rules and gameplay at inception.
Dumbest thing ever said on the forums. Even more so then the OP, and that's saying something. - [img]http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/janus/ceosig.jpg[/img] [yellow]English only please. Zymurgist[/yellow] |
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Liliana Rahl
Remote Soviet Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.06.19 11:47:00 -
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Post with your main. |
Christopher Dulson
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.06.19 11:48:00 -
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Mara Tessidar wrote:get out
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Pisov viet
Kaesong Kosmonauts Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.06.19 11:50:00 -
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Washichu May wrote:Only thing that ruins the game is meta gaming. It's like punching someone in the face while playing backgammon. Interestingly, Eve is developped by people who held a chess boxing match during the 2011 fanfest. I guess metagaming is a part of the game. |
hedge betts Shiyurida
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.06.19 11:50:00 -
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You can split you're atoms and biomass Cup the balls, and work the shaft |
Aiwha
101st Space Marine Force Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2012.06.19 11:58:00 -
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Grumpy Owly wrote:
Though I will agree there is merit to split the playerbase into two shards:
Shard 1: Mature players who are capable of respectfully extending the sandbox to others and understand the symbiosis of interests but can expect and accept some aspects of gameplay outside of their control.
Shard 2: Selfish Asshats with unhealthy Meta interests where "winning at all costs" is the only consideration.
Highsec and nullsec. Regards,
LCpl. Aiwha-á Senior Recruiter |
Liliana Rahl
Remote Soviet Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.06.19 12:00:00 -
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Aiwha wrote:Grumpy Owly wrote:
Though I will agree there is merit to split the playerbase into two shards:
Shard 1: Mature players who are capable of respectfully extending the sandbox to others and understand the symbiosis of interests but can expect and accept some aspects of gameplay outside of their control.
Shard 2: Selfish Asshats with unhealthy Meta interests where "winning at all costs" is the only consideration.
Highsec and nullsec.
IDGI |
xxwaynoxx
Nerkcorp
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Posted - 2012.06.19 12:02:00 -
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Nice trollshot up the middle, look at him go!... |
Simetraz
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.06.19 12:02:00 -
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The problem is this the forums and people tend to create controversy here or at least try too.
So there are very few threads that are actually truthful. Most of them are just people trying to stir things up.
It would not surprise me for one minute if one thread that says OMG I got ganked I quit and another that states carebears go away are actually made by the same person.
There is a reason why most of the player base doesn't bother to read the forums. They just can't be bothered to sift through all the garbage.
EVERYBODY KNOWS |
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
2368
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Posted - 2012.06.19 12:20:00 -
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Ciar Meara wrote:Jade Constantine wrote:Only split that would ever be worth considering would be North American / Euro(Russian) with both shards continuing with the same rules and gameplay at inception.
Dumbest thing ever said on the forums. Even more so then the OP, and that's saying something.
Thats an interesting point of view - so you think it'd be better to split between a pvp and pve server than it would be to have a split between geographically-diverse servers that both continue as effectively pvp servers?
Personally I think any kind of PVE server thing would be the death of Eve everywhere. Whereas I think you could probably get away with geographical sharding with identical rulesets if you needed to go that way.
Granted its a huge step and not needed currently - but its probably trending in that direction due to the apparent differences in game design aspirations between geographically-disparate groups.
Personally I can't help but be a little intrigued as to what the character of a Euro/russian server for Eve online would be. I have to admit I really like the atmosphere on euro world of tanks :)
Still its bluesky thinking in a funny thread, whats wrong with pondering some bizzare options on a tuesday morning eh.
The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom Epic Inferno Wardec Test, Sign up and shoot Goons for free! |
Lord Zim
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Posted - 2012.06.19 12:26:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote:Thats an interesting point of view - so you think it'd be better to split between a pvp and pve server than it would be to have a split between geographically-diverse servers that both continue as effectively pvp servers? The PVE servers would die out, the carebears would slink back to the PVP servers, and they would see that it was good.
So yes, it'd be better. |
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