Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 [8] 9 :: one page |
|
Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 0 post(s) |
hadar bluetalon
Minmatar
|
Posted - 2010.01.17 22:51:00 -
[211]
Revan, being a fresh capsuleer i feel compelled to listen in to what has to be said, hopefully it will improve my judgment in the future |
Revan Neferis
Amarr The Archaeus of Blood
|
Posted - 2010.01.18 01:36:00 -
[212]
Edited by: Revan Neferis on 18/01/2010 01:36:36
Originally by: Magna Victrix I am no tabula rasa.
You see, it's this kind of attitude that bothers me. When new capsuleers comes around boosting their egos without actual facts at space, it actually tells me that the Sani Sabik teachings will not resonate within them. Because we praise walking the path, not pretending. As a new capsuleer I think that a dose of the same honesty to yourself and others would serve you better and open doors to you instead of closing them. Many have tried to reach higher grounds by using the same attitude, none of them have reached much all. My advice to you is, do at space, then conquer your right to come here with words. Or simply, come with words in accordance to your actual status.
Originally by: Countess Lamorei I wonder if I am too late to express my wish to attend.
One must always strive to broaden ones knowledge, and this seems like an ample time to do so.
Countess Lamorei CEO of Construction Cabal Head of the Ishuk-Raata Enforcer Academy
You are welcome to attend.
Originally by: hadar bluetalon Revan, being a fresh capsuleer i feel compelled to listen in to what has to be said, hopefully it will improve my judgment in the future
Rightfully so. Be welcomed.
Revan Neferis Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign Sani Sabik
Where love exists peace is victory and beauty is exulted. Where love does not then peace cannot exist, and vendetta is the only truth. |
Magna Victrix
Amarr The Mercy Seat
|
Posted - 2010.01.18 06:00:00 -
[213]
Originally by: Revan Neferis My advice to you is, do at space, then conquer your right to come here with words.
So be it.
|
Revan Neferis
Amarr The Archaeus of Blood
|
Posted - 2010.01.18 12:08:00 -
[214]
Originally by: Rebnok SAY WUT??????????
Mmmm -AAA- making itself at home at IGS, not a bad thing per se mind you. Tell you what, you bring that CVA sandwich you mentioned at the other thread, and I'll give you a Sani Sabik hat in exchange.
It's a good deal, ask your Corp mate Vlad about me and he will explain a thing or two. We can all profit from this excellent business.
Revan Neferis Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign Sani Sabik
Where love exists peace is victory and beauty is exulted. Where love does not then peace cannot exist, and vendetta is the only truth. |
William Ytiri
Caldari
|
Posted - 2010.01.18 18:00:00 -
[215]
Lady Neferis,
Conferences about an entity, righteous, cooperative and succesful as the Amarr Empire, are great tools to make all in New Eden realize who we are today and what we want to become tomorrow. Even when you are not an Amarr subject, like I am, it has great guiding value.
Lady Neferis, I praise your initiative. Much can be said about this subject and hopefully a lot of prominent Amarr pod-pilots shall, all graced by the Crown's will, take the opportunity you give them with this platform and contribute their views to be heared without prior judgement and be weighed by the Empires finest scholars and prominents.
I for one welcome a strong Empire and the trading opportunities it has brought with the trading agreement between our nations.
I humbly request attendance as a Caldari businessman and Provist,
William Ytiri
--- Working at Ytiri Retail? Check here. |
Jakiin
Khanid Provincial Vanguard
|
Posted - 2010.01.18 20:19:00 -
[216]
Edited by: Jakiin on 18/01/2010 20:20:03 Previously I had no intention of appearing here, however as my CEO is a speaker I request permission to attend. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Jakiin Holder Heir of the Kingdom 'Pacifist Reclaimer' |
Revan Neferis
Amarr The Archaeus of Blood
|
Posted - 2010.01.19 00:40:00 -
[217]
Originally by: William Ytiri Lady Neferis,
Conferences about an entity, righteous, cooperative and succesful as the Amarr Empire, are great tools to make all in New Eden realize who we are today and what we want to become tomorrow. Even when you are not an Amarr subject, like I am, it has great guiding value.
Lady Neferis, I praise your initiative. Much can be said about this subject and hopefully a lot of prominent Amarr pod-pilots shall, all graced by the Crown's will, take the opportunity you give them with this platform and contribute their views to be heared without prior judgement and be weighed by the Empires finest scholars and prominents.
I for one welcome a strong Empire and the trading opportunities it has brought with the trading agreement between our nations.
I humbly request attendance as a Caldari businessman and Provist,
William Ytiri
Mr Ytiri, thank you for your words. I'm happy to accept your application. Welcome to the event and I hope you'll profit from the knowledge that will be shared.
Revan Neferis Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign Sani Sabik
Where love exists peace is victory and beauty is exulted. Where love does not then peace cannot exist, and vendetta is the only truth. |
von Khan
Amarr
|
Posted - 2010.01.19 02:36:00 -
[218]
I agree with the previous, it is an action that aims to further personal growth regardless the outcome. None the less I have some concerns about the potential. Are there going to be room for debate and questions, or is it only to present the "revelation" of atheism beliefs and dogma by its own right?...
Many arguments on your presentation regarding the withholding of historic references are enticing, but I find myself with more question than answers. Are you presenting evidence to the fabrication of the faith? And if so, aren't you doing the same, disproving one to install another.
It narrows to the simplest.....
-Gods creation of the cosmos, with can only be understood by faith.
or
-The pursuits of knowledge to answer the previous.
Observing this, we may coincide that both endeavours are different path to the same answer, only achievable relative to ones ego.
Note that i mean no insult nor diminish your efforts, IÆm just expressing interest on this subject. Alexander von Khan Philosopher |
Revan Neferis
Amarr The Archaeus of Blood
|
Posted - 2010.01.19 14:59:00 -
[219]
Edited by: Revan Neferis on 19/01/2010 15:04:09
Originally by: von Khan Are there going to be room for debate and questions
Questions, yes after the Conference, 30 minutes to public questions moderated by our Priests. It's the usual etiquette model for such events.
Originally by: von Khan IÆm just expressing interest on this subject.
To the rest of your post I'll answer this.
Faith per se is not positive or negative. It's an inherent trait of the human mind. What makes it negative is the use of faith to undermine human potential. Faith has been used by Amarr Orthodoxy as an excuse to everything Ill and abhorrent in this Universe, including ignorance.
They use faith as an excuse to poverty. They use faith as an excuse to weakness. They use faith as a tool of emotional opportunity to avoid self-responsibility. It's too easy to operate under faith. Who is too blame for anything if all is the will of God after all? Easy way out and easy pathetic excuse to every possible failure.
The concept goes to extreme. Even Eons of Amarr continuous Defeat marked forever in the books of time and history is excused by this absurd concept. There is no critical thinking, no room for changes or improvements. All is "As God wills it". Amarr under the influence of such malevolent Illusion has become a decrepit, poor and stagnated society.
This shall change under Sani Sabik rulership.
In one of my Sermons " Masters and Slaves " I've given an important insight into the matter.
An extract:
We recognize two kinds of people in the Universe: Masters and slaves.
Following the common Universal concept, one would assume that True Amarrians, as the most fit and developed race, of course, would all be Masters. This concept is a lie. For us, it takes more than using a drug control method and chain a sub-developed race to be considered Masters.
What is a Master and a Slave?
Masters are those who realize and do their own True Will, who live as free individuals in the world, self-governed and self-sufficient. Slaves, on the other hand, are ignorant of their life, and they are part of mass consciousness, lost and bound to a senseless world of ignorance and delusion. Masters are few, slaves are many. In fact, slaves are victims who live at the mercy of the external, the people who live in the darkness, confusion and chaos of mass consciousness. They are part of the herd, dull and ignorant, followers, not leaders of self. Masters are those who transcend mass consciousness, who take responsibility for their own life, and who live as autonomous individuals in both thought and action. Masters live by their own inward Light; they are self-reliant and non-attached; they do not depend on anyone.
Third Premise of the veil: "We want only those who can conquer themselves and their environment. It is one of our chief objects to abolish the very idea of dependence on others." Masters banish the restriction of dependence; they live as true individuals, self-reliant and free." I think this resumes the philosophy that is endorsed here. The conference is another tool for Masters to continue to ascend and for slaves to finally break down their shackles of Ignorance.
Revan Neferis Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign Sani Sabik
Where love exists peace is victory and beauty is exulted. Where love does not then peace cannot exist, and vendetta is the only truth. |
von Khan
Amarr
|
Posted - 2010.01.20 03:16:00 -
[220]
Thanks for the answer,
I don't wish to align myself with this line of thought, but the opportunity to hear comments on "delicate" subjects its appealing, compliments to you for organizing this event. I will be grateful if you will grant me admission.
I have to comment about your definition of a "Master", I might have misunderstood but it seems the title is self appointed, and the cannon to measures is based on selfishness. This path has but one outcome and that is wickedness..., because actions tend to be justified relative to ones ethics therefore whatever is best for the self is what is "right".
The virtues of men are of more consequence to society than their abilities, and for this reason, the heart should be cultivated with more assiduity than the head. Violence is shrouded in justifying myths that lend it moral legitimacy, and these myths for the most part kept people from recognizing the violence for what it was.
Therefore the things that will destroy us are: politics without principle; pleasure without conscience; wealth without work; knowledge without character; business without morality; science without humanity; and worship without sacrifice.
To love. To be loved. To never forget your own insignificance. To never get used to the unspeakable violence and the vulgar disparity of life around you. To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or complicate what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above all, to watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And never, never, to forget these is the true path to enlightenment.
God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference.
Alexander von Khan Philosopher |
|
Lance Buckskin
|
Posted - 2010.01.20 10:19:00 -
[221]
Originally by: Revan Neferis
Originally by: Rebnok SAY WUT??????????
Mmmm -AAA- making itself at home at IGS, not a bad thing per se mind you. Tell you what, you bring that CVA sandwich you mentioned at the other thread, and I'll give you a Sani Sabik hat in exchange.
It's a good deal, ask your Corp mate Vlad about me and he will explain a thing or two. We can all profit from this excellent business.
Revan Neferis Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign Sani Sabik
I think we've found that reign of ignorance in the title.
|
Revan Neferis
Amarr The Archaeus of Blood
|
Posted - 2010.01.20 15:03:00 -
[222]
Originally by: von Khan Thanks for the answer
You're welcome.
Originally by: von Khan Compliments to you for organizing this event. I will be grateful if you will grant me admission.
As you have expressed that is not your interest to align yourself with the premises exposed, I believe that a seat would be better occupied by someone who would come with the intention of being enlighted. As we have reserved number of seats, I'm afraid I'll have to deny your application until further notice. Meaning until I change my mind... or my mind changes me.
Well, the order of the factors doesn't change the product anyway.
Originally by: von Khan I have to comment about your definition of a "Master", I might have misunderstood
Yes.
Revan Neferis Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign Sani Sabik
Where love exists peace is victory and beauty is exulted. Where love does not then peace cannot exist, and vendetta is the only truth. |
von Khan
Amarr
|
Posted - 2010.01.20 18:44:00 -
[223]
Very well,
That was my first question, if there where room for questions and debate. I understand now, its directed to a more malleable audience.
Regarding another subject, im interested to know if you will be releasing any information after the event, especially any evidence or historic records of your conspiracy theory.
Moral certainty is always a sign of cultural inferiority. The more uncivilized the man, the surer he is that he knows precisely what is right and what is wrong. All human progress, even in morals, has been the work of men who have doubted the current moral values, not of men who have whooped them up and tried to enforce them. The truly civilized man is always skeptical and tolerant.
Alexander von Khan Philosopher |
Revan Neferis
Amarr The Archaeus of Blood
|
Posted - 2010.01.20 19:28:00 -
[224]
Originally by: von Khan Conspiracy theory.
Conspiracy theory that you must ask Amarr. It's their problem to prove that God exists, not mine.
So far, there is no evidence of such fact. Lack of evidences equals to conspiracy theory. So I believe you are asking the wrong corner of the debate. I'm very comfortable with my position on attesting that something that doesn't exist, well, doesn't exist.
Revan Neferis Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign Sani Sabik
Where love exists peace is victory and beauty is exulted. Where love does not then peace cannot exist, and vendetta is the only truth. |
Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
|
Posted - 2010.01.20 20:03:00 -
[225]
Originally by: Revan Neferis
Conspiracy theory that you must ask Amarr. It's their problem to prove that God exists, not mine.
So far, there is no evidence of such fact. Lack of evidences equals to conspiracy theory. So I believe you are asking the wrong corner of the debate. I'm very comfortable with my position on attesting that something that doesn't exist, well, doesn't exist.
I for one don't need to see God to know that He exists.
When I'm planetside at night, I can't see the sun. And yet I know that it's still there.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
|
Revan Neferis
Amarr The Archaeus of Blood
|
Posted - 2010.01.20 20:11:00 -
[226]
Edited by: Revan Neferis on 20/01/2010 20:15:22
Originally by: Rodj Blake I for one don't need to see God to know that He exists.
When I'm planetside at night, I can't see the sun. And yet I know that it's still there.
Beautiful poetic argument Rodj, I grant you that. But not flawless. You know the sun is there at night because you have seen it before, during the day, and science explains how the motions of the Universe operates. If someone asks you, what is a sun? You can seek your answer through scientific data. That's why you know it exists and you know it's there.
Very different from what you call God. You want to believe it's there. It's the best you can do.
Revan Neferis Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign Sani Sabik
Where love exists peace is victory and beauty is exulted. Where love does not then peace cannot exist, and vendetta is the only truth. |
Jakiin
Khanid Provincial Vanguard
|
Posted - 2010.01.20 23:20:00 -
[227]
Edited by: Jakiin on 20/01/2010 23:20:52 Proof is counterproductive to the point. If He wished then He could simply step down into the cluster, let all know of His glory in a single instant, and give the knowledge of how to turn every government into what He most willed within an hour. He's God, it wouldn't be that difficult. But that's not the point.
Consider faith. I can offer no proof of His existence to anyone, I only know it in my heart. I feel Him when I pray, and I know Him when I join with other faithful. It is this faith which He asks, and it is the spread of this faith that He tasked first the True Amarr and then by extension all Amarr with. For that is the point: The point to all creation is as a test and the Reclaiming is but one part of it.
Again, we cannot prove this, we can only know it. Because if we could prove it then there would be no test, there would be no difficulty in this task. So you may ask for proof but we can provide none, and you can point to this lack of proof and mock us for it, the truly faithful will not care. Because it's not you we're trying to prove ourselves to. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Jakiin Holder Heir of the Kingdom 'Pacifist Reclaimer' |
Revan Neferis
Amarr The Archaeus of Blood
|
Posted - 2010.01.20 23:39:00 -
[228]
Originally by: Lance Buckskin
Originally by: Revan Neferis
Originally by: Rebnok SAY WUT??????????
I think we've found that reign of ignorance in the title.
Point taken.
*winks*
Revan Neferis Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign Sani Sabik
Where love exists peace is victory and beauty is exulted. Where love does not then peace cannot exist, and vendetta is the only truth. |
von Khan
Amarr
|
Posted - 2010.01.21 01:56:00 -
[229]
Oh my dear...
The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge. An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor does truth become error because nobody sees it.
It amazes me to find an intelligent person who fights against something which she does not at all believe exists.
To sustain the belief that there is no God, one has to demonstrate infinite knowledge, which is tantamount to saying, "I have infinite knowledge that there is no being in existence with infinite knowledge"
And to complement Rodj example, I believe in God as I believe that the Sun has risen, not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else.
Alexander von Khan Philosopher |
Revan Neferis
Amarr The Archaeus of Blood
|
Posted - 2010.01.21 01:58:00 -
[230]
Originally by: von Khan I believe in God
Just reinforcing my point that you don't need to continue to pay homage to this conference. It's not for you.
Revan Neferis Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign Sani Sabik
Where love exists peace is victory and beauty is exulted. Where love does not then peace cannot exist, and vendetta is the only truth. |
|
von Khan
Amarr
|
Posted - 2010.01.21 04:55:00 -
[231]
Very well my dear.. I leave with these words of wisdom:
"Where love exists peace is victory and beauty is exulted. Where love does not then peace cannot exist, and vendetta is the only truth."
Why don't you choose love?
Alexander von Khan Philosopher |
Revan Neferis
Amarr The Archaeus of Blood
|
Posted - 2010.01.21 16:25:00 -
[232]
Originally by: von Khan Very well my dear.. I leave with these words of wisdom:
"Where love exists peace is victory and beauty is exulted. Where love does not then peace cannot exist, and vendetta is the only truth."
Why don't you choose love?
One of my favourite sentences Mr Philosopher. Because it's very truth to who I am.
"Where love exists" (And I know where love exists) there is only peace, victory and beauty exulted.
But
"Where love does not" ... then peace cannot exist, and vendetta is the only truth.
Isn't that quite self explanatory Mr?
Revan Neferis Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign Sani Sabik
Where love exists peace is victory and beauty is exulted. Where love does not then peace cannot exist, and vendetta is the only truth. |
Yves Lacroix
Gallente Luxury Insider Haute Perfumerie
|
Posted - 2010.01.21 18:57:00 -
[233]
Mademoiselle
I'd like to ask you permission to offer you one of my services:
[ theatrically exaggerated spin removing the cover from his new outdoor ]
Ambient scenting
Seeking a way to improve the experience of your guests in check-in lines? Look no Morrrrrrrrrrrrrre! Turn to Lacroix for an ambient scenting solution!
My utilization and understanding of aromatherapy and performance is central in the choice of one particular arrrrrrrrroma, which will be helpful in shortening people's perception of time passed in a space and enhance their experience!
[ Opens his arms up to the heavens ]
Think Mademoiselle! Today Your signature scent greets your guests throughout the conference and showroom. Tomorrow, Your signature scent will greet capsuleers in all your facilities throughout the Univerrrrrrrse!
Merci for your time Mademoiselle Revan Neferis.
ôElegance is refusal.ö |
Stephanus Virginiaensis
Amarr PIE Inc.
|
Posted - 2010.01.21 19:12:00 -
[234]
Beware M. Lacroix, of business with the arch-heretic Neferis. The only scent you will have from her is that which rises from her many blasphemies and sacrileges: the stench of a corpse mouldering in its grave.
|
Yves Lacroix
Gallente Luxury Insider Haute Perfumerie
|
Posted - 2010.01.21 19:19:00 -
[235]
Originally by: Stephanus Virginiaensis Beware M. Lacroix, of business with the arch-heretic Neferis. The only scent you will have from her is that which rises from her many blasphemies and sacrileges: the stench of a corpse mouldering in its grave.
Monsieur, I'm a businessman and a perfumier, not a politician. This is Crystal Boulevard Monsieur and my shopping centre is open for all! My only desire is to expand my business without politics. My fragrrrrrrrrrances are pure Art!
Merci Monsieur.
ôElegance is refusal.ö |
Revan Neferis
Amarr The Archaeus of Blood
|
Posted - 2010.01.21 23:01:00 -
[236]
Originally by: Yves Lacroix Mademoiselle
I'd like to ask you permission to offer you one of my services:
[ theatrically exaggerated spin removing the cover from his new outdoor ]
Ambient scenting
Seeking a way to improve the experience of your guests in check-in lines? Look no Morrrrrrrrrrrrrre! Turn to Lacroix for an ambient scenting solution!
My utilization and understanding of aromatherapy and performance is central in the choice of one particular arrrrrrrrroma, which will be helpful in shortening people's perception of time passed in a space and enhance their experience!
[ Opens his arms up to the heavens ]
Think Mademoiselle! Today Your signature scent greets your guests throughout the conference and showroom. Tomorrow, Your signature scent will greet capsuleers in all your facilities throughout the Univerrrrrrrse!
Merci for your time Mademoiselle Revan Neferis.
Contact me privately so I can understand better what you have in mind.
Revan Neferis Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign Sani Sabik
Where love exists peace is victory and beauty is exulted. Where love does not then peace cannot exist, and vendetta is the only truth. |
Yves Lacroix
Gallente Luxury Insider Haute Perfumerie
|
Posted - 2010.01.22 15:57:00 -
[237]
Originally by: Revan Neferis
Contact me privately so I can understand better what you have in mind.
Revan Neferis Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign Sani Sabik
Fabulous Mademoiselle!
Merci Beaucoup.
ôElegance is refusal.ö |
Revan Neferis
Amarr The Archaeus of Blood
|
Posted - 2010.01.22 19:42:00 -
[238]
Originally by: Stephanus Virginiaensis arch-heretic Neferis.
Delighted.
Just another day... for you and me, in paradise...
Revan Neferis Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign Arch Heretic Sani Sabik
Where love exists peace is victory and beauty is exulted. Where love does not then peace cannot exist, and vendetta is the only truth. |
Jakiin
Khanid Provincial Vanguard
|
Posted - 2010.01.25 21:24:00 -
[239]
It has come to my attention that I have, in fact, been barred entry from the event on suspicion that I'm an old enemy in a new clone. Neferis has thus joined the ranks of several other prominent Amarrians who are under the impression that I'm an enemy of theirs, with the disagreement being they believe I'm a Fractioneer clone.
Now since it's been made evident that Neferis has a specific idea of who it is I'm a 'clone of' I simply cannot help but ask: Were they as charming then as I am now?
Smiles. Charmingly. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Jakiin Holder Heir of the Kingdom 'Pacifist Reclaimer' |
Revan Neferis
Amarr The Archaeus of Blood
|
Posted - 2010.01.26 04:04:00 -
[240]
Originally by: Yves Lacroix
Originally by: Revan Neferis
Contact me privately so I can understand better what you have in mind.
Revan Neferis Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign Sani Sabik
Fabulous Mademoiselle!
Merci Beaucoup.
I have replied to you at your business thread Mr Lacroix. Now I expect a full shipment of it to be ready before my conference. Again contact me privately for details.
Revan Neferis Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign Sani Sabik
Where love exists peace is victory and beauty is exulted. Where love does not then peace cannot exist, and vendetta is the only truth. |
|
|
|
|
Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 [8] 9 :: one page |
First page | Previous page | Next page | Last page |