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Dracnys
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.05.03 19:19:00 -
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Supported
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Tore Smith
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2010.05.04 11:10:00 -
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supported
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Hiivo
Salvage and Relocation
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Posted - 2010.05.04 17:46:00 -
[213]
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Ulair Memmet
ORIGIN SYSTEMS Shadows of Light
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Posted - 2010.05.04 19:15:00 -
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Supported
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Mara Rinn
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Posted - 2010.05.05 06:15:00 -
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Originally by: Ai Mei Huge increase on plex prices
If a bunch of folks don't have the extra ISK to buy PLEX, won't the price of PLEX come down?
Quote: increase of the price of t2 items
Certainly, but as the price of datacores goes up, the folks who aren't farming them will start, won't they? Eventually there will be more paying customers farming datacores, as opposed to inactive alts on unpaid accounts farming datacores. Market will return to present status as PvPers decide to spend the couple of months training to do R&D. There will no doubt be a short term spike in prices as the supply ramps up to meet demand.
Quote: It works great as is, doing this would just stack all the wealth onto the select few who research on their mains.
This is not an exclusive market. Anyone can train the appropriate skills on their characters and farm datacores. There's no barrier to entry beyond training some skills and building rep with some NPC corporations.
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Baka Lakadaka
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2010.05.06 05:04:00 -
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I'd support it in principle, but I think a reasonable grace period is warranted. Training expires after a couple of days.
Why not make this a 30 day grace period. I like to be able to go on holidays and know that my market orders are still there. If my account expires while I'm away for a week or two, it would be nice to pick it up again with my market orders and datacores ticking over.
RL people regularly go on holiday for a couple of weeks and their businesses/jobs continue to operate for a reasonable period. Not everyone closes down their business for a 2 or 3 week holiday.
Coming back to billions of ISK after 6 or 12 months is a bit much if you're not paying your subscription. ______________________ Agony Unleashed Home of the PvP University. |
Venkul Mul
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.05.06 06:12:00 -
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Originally by: Mara Rinn
Quote: increase of the price of t2 items
Certainly, but as the price of datacores goes up, the folks who aren't farming them will start, won't they? Eventually there will be more paying customers farming datacores, as opposed to inactive alts on unpaid accounts farming datacores. Market will return to present status as PvPers decide to spend the couple of months training to do R&D. There will no doubt be a short term spike in prices as the supply ramps up to meet demand.
"PvPers decide to spend the couple of months training to do R&D" doesn't compute.
Most PvPers will not spend a couple of months training a PvE skills unless they already have all the PvP skills in several races.
Seeing the average lifespan of a EVE character I doubt that there will be a lot of people entering datacore production.
So T2 prices will go up a bit, but not much.
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foksieloy
Universal Army Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.05.06 06:53:00 -
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_______________________ We come for our people! |
My Postman
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Posted - 2010.05.21 09:30:00 -
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As in a current thread brought up - SUPPORTED!
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Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
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Posted - 2010.05.21 10:11:00 -
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Edited by: Hirana Yoshida on 21/05/2010 10:12:26 That is the propaganda figures how about presenting the proper numbers complete with negatives for the voting public?
50-100M/month per character using primarily Mech.Eng cores. Each character needs a minimum 3-4 months skill training to get that amount. Characters need to either grind the corporation standings or be in corp with requisite standings (I assume the latter).
Summary: CCP gets one year+ worth of subscription per account provided all three slots are used for this heinous act. Player spends $210 in GTCs/subscription or roughly 4B ISK in PLEXS to set each account up. Account doesn't actually start making money until the investment is paid off (ie. 13-18 months in future).
So as you all you lemmings can see the whole "issue" amounts to nothing more than a very convoluted way of buying ISK - big whoop.
Obviously not supported since it is presented with critical data omitted, is not an actual problem, would screw over inventors and has actually made CCP a ton of cash.
PS: No, I do not have alts all over with agents in place, I am not about to sacrifice 3-4 months training per character just so I can get what amounts to spare change for me somewhere down the road.
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Shaemell Buttleson
Euphoria Released HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.05.21 11:17:00 -
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* Please resize your signature to the maximum file size of 24000 bytes. - CCP Ildoge
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Lee Dalton
RUSSIAN PRIDE POWER HONOUR JUSTICE Perihelion Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.21 11:30:00 -
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Yes. *** I AM A RUS HON SUPERSTAR |
Cyrus Doul
Cosmic Vacum Cleaners
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Posted - 2010.05.21 11:32:00 -
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Rellik B00n
Lethal Death Squad
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Posted - 2010.05.22 05:35:00 -
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+ LDSkill+hireLDS |
Cearain
Caldari The IMPERIUM of LaZy NATION
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Posted - 2010.05.22 17:46:00 -
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Originally by: Hirana Yoshida Edited by: Hirana Yoshida on 21/05/2010 10:12:26 ... Summary: CCP gets one year+ worth of subscription per account provided all three slots are used for this heinous act. Player spends $210 in GTCs/subscription or roughly 4B ISK in PLEXS to set each account upą.
Hirana Why wouldnĘt the person set up one account use the free 30 days then pay for an extra 30 days $15 and then use the buddy system and get 30 free days to get 90 days right there for $15. The 2nd character would use 21 day free trial then pay 15 for 30 days and then use the buddy system for an extra 30 days. 81 days for $15 dollars. Then the last account would use the free 21 days and pay for say 2 month or the three month option. So he would get 81 days for $30.
Then you just transfer the 2 first characters into the third for $20/each or $40.00 total. So all told you would get these three accounts going for $100.00. Or roughly 3 gtcs - lets say 1.6 billion isk. If they each make 63 mill/month or 200 mill total/month you are paid back 8 months. This is far superior than buying 3 gtcs because after 8 months you not only get your 1.6 billion but you keep getting an additional 1.6 billion every 8 months in exchange for $15. 15 dollars for 1.6 billion isk! ThatĘs some pretty cheap isk.
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Jasdemi
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2010.05.23 11:17:00 -
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Agree.
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Zirketch Kruug
Minmatar Fawkes' Loyal Professionals Reckoning.
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Posted - 2010.05.23 16:37:00 -
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Thumbs up in agreement.
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Kaara
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Posted - 2010.05.23 19:36:00 -
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Edited by: Kaara on 23/05/2010 19:38:29 I can understand the issue and support it to an extent. When it came to Skill Ghosting, that is technically "your" character doing the training. When it comes to RP generation it's the agent that's doing it, not your character.
Let me ask a question: If you're a CEO of a company and you went on vacation for a few weeks/month (accnt inactive for a month or so) does your company cease to function during that time? No. Your company and contacts continue to function as they were so why would someone you hired in-game to research stop doing what you paid him to do? (Or persuaded)? When it comes to skill generation you're on vacation, you aren't training so it makes sense.
Again I understand the problem and perhaps if Datacores weren't so expensive we wouldn't be having this problem. Believe me, my agent is only a lvl 2 and I generate a measly 11/hr but can't you also consider this a helpful 'nudge' to come back and play so you don't have to grrrrind missions or mine? Just a thought.
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Anastasia DC
Damage Clan
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Posted - 2010.05.23 19:41:00 -
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FractalizeR
Caldari Perkone
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Posted - 2010.07.18 11:59:00 -
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/agree ------------------------------ Things are changing, But nothing changes, And still there are changes... |
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Abdiel Kavash
Paladin Order Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2010.07.19 11:26:00 -
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Going through the Assembly Hall, supporting awesome ideas.
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Keith Mc'Leroy
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Posted - 2010.07.19 11:45:00 -
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Malachi256
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Posted - 2010.07.19 15:59:00 -
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Absolutely.
I can't believe this is still in game.
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Aineko Macx
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Posted - 2010.07.19 16:10:00 -
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Oh yeah, lets get datacore value up a bit and PLEX price down CCP: Where fixing bugs is a luxury, not an obligation. |
Shandir
Minmatar Eve University Ivy League
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Posted - 2010.07.19 17:46:00 -
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I can't believe this is still here. It smells like exploits to me.
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PC l0adletter
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Posted - 2010.07.20 05:43:00 -
[236]
Looking forward to this being fixed in 2012!!
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Rip Minner
ARMITAGE Logistics Salvage and Industries
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Posted - 2010.07.20 06:56:00 -
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Supported! Is it a rock? Point a Lazer at it and profit. Is it a ship? Point a Lazer at it and profit. I dont realy see any differnces here. |
Shea Amara
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Posted - 2010.07.20 06:57:00 -
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Supported
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Shaun Livingstone
Royal Fleet Auxiliary Collegium Amarria
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Posted - 2010.07.20 08:14:00 -
[239]
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Rikki Sals
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Posted - 2010.07.20 15:57:00 -
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Supported. It's silly that this is even an issue.
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