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d4shing
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Posted - 2010.07.21 16:47:00 -
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Has anyone noticed, btw, that almost all datacore prices are way down in the past year?
Everything is down between 25 and 65%, except for Minnie Starship (I guess vagas etc have become more popular with players in the past year) and Plasma Physics (?). Caldari Starship cores more or less held stable, and everything else is way down.
My next thought is: what is the equilibrium price? Let's say you get an account, you RAF it and effectively get a free 45 days. You then have to pay (roughly) 600m for 2 more plex while you train up RPM 4 on all 3 toons on that account, a science skill to 4, negotiation+connections+social to 4. I assume you're running them through missions on an alt. It took me maybe ~40 hours (?, was a while ago) to run one of my alts up to 7.8 standing with Carthum, and that was in a crappy double LAR dominix with T1 drones. With a marauder or somesuch I'm sure it'd be much faster, but it's not like you're not getting paid for these missions, anyways.
The finished product should yield roughly 8 datacores per day per toon. 24 datacores per acct/day, that's about 700 datacores per month, with a startup cost of 600m and a 2 month lead time. You could probably train them up more (science skill to 5 or RPM to 5 or even negotiation to 5) but at these price levels it's not really cost-effective (though since this "feature" has existed for years, it probably was at some point, and over a sufficiently long time horizon you'd make back the extra isk).
If you buy 1 plex every 6 months thereafter: Month 8: 900m spent, 4200 datacores = 215k/core Month 14: 1.2b spent, 8400 datacores = 143k/core Month 20: 1.5b spent, 12.6k datacores = 120k/core
It's difficult to say how big the impact of this activity is, of course, because we don't know how many cores are consumed per day. Nor do we know how widespread this activity is. Nonetheless, market prices generally converge to the marginal cost, and are determined by the lowest cost supplier.
I think it's pretty obviously bad for the game, but I also think it's bad for the game to take all the devs and put them on vampires of xbox, so what do I know? On the other hand, at least if I decide to cancel more of my accounts while the folks at CCP develop other games, I'll have datacores to come back to if I ever feel like returning.
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Manji Lee
Galactic Express The Spire Collective
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Posted - 2010.07.21 17:47:00 -
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Best csm request since the corpse catapult.
100% support it! Got any tinfoil? |
Anna Weston
Holdings Inc
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Posted - 2010.07.22 11:16:00 -
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Pneumon Blaster
Hel's Wing The Spire Collective
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Posted - 2010.07.22 11:43:00 -
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supported. Offering EVE KB's & Websites/Forums incl. hosting for ISK.
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Steintz
Magnificent Beavers The 0rphanage
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Posted - 2010.07.22 12:01:00 -
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supported
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Kajan Tormen
Blood Money Inc. The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2010.07.22 14:43:00 -
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supported
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159Pinky
Trans-Solar Works Rooks and Kings
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Posted - 2010.07.22 16:28:00 -
[247]
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Ohmiri
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Posted - 2010.07.22 16:39:00 -
[248]
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AmarrCitizen32897
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Posted - 2010.07.23 02:40:00 -
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Look at all the haters hatin'.
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Toanfoal
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Posted - 2010.07.27 19:35:00 -
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Edited by: Toanfoal on 27/07/2010 19:34:56 Bump and support
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Bluefix
Gnu Terror Corps
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Posted - 2010.07.27 20:02:00 -
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+1
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Rawbone
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Posted - 2010.07.27 22:00:00 -
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Xi Dra'Gaan
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Posted - 2010.07.27 22:01:00 -
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NO! NO! NO!
How would I make a living then?!
I have 13 accounts, 2 active at any one time. I paid for one account for a year at $141.40, and now I keep it active with the Buddy System and eventually with PLEX. Each month I started a new account, first on the Buddy System and then active with a PLEX, both from my main account, trained it up, set up the datacores and market, then let it expire. I did this for one year. Now I reactivate the first account of my 12 other accounts with a PLEX from my main account (which has an additional year of time now due to the Buddy System). It has been sitting as a ghost for one year and accumulating income. I do some additional training and get set up for the next year of being a ghost, then transfer the money and any leftover items to my main account and let it expire while reactivating the next account. Rinse and repeat.
I worked hard to do this and spent a LOT of time setting it up and it isn't right that you should ask CCP to stop my exploit, errr, marketing endeavors.
/fiction off
SUPPORTED!
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GyokZoli
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Posted - 2010.07.29 17:56:00 -
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Toanfoal
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.08.14 05:32:00 -
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bump
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Seventh Seraph
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Posted - 2010.08.14 14:12:00 -
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Cire XIII
Ever Flow Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.14 14:16:00 -
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Supported. It just makes sense, and it shouldn't take much time to discuss, decide, and implement.
Originally by: CCP Oveur The client handles no logic, it is simply a dumb terminal.
Our problems are server-side.
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Angelzin
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2010.08.14 19:09:00 -
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Supported.
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Astroka
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Posted - 2010.08.15 08:27:00 -
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Absolutely fully supported, no reason someone who doesn't pay to play the game should be paid in-game.
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Iwanna Killieu
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Posted - 2010.08.15 13:45:00 -
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agreed
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Trebor Daehdoow
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Posted - 2010.08.16 12:48:00 -
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Just a quick note -- TeaDaze apparently forgot to post the fact that this passed during CSM4 and is currently listed as "in process" to CCP.
It also made it through the recent crowdsourcing and CSM filtering and is on our list that is being presented to CCP today.
Confessions of a Noob Starship Politician Spending Hours blogging the Minutes
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Mara Rinn
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Posted - 2010.08.17 12:56:00 -
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Originally by: Trebor Daehdoow It also made it through the recent crowdsourcing and CSM filtering and is on our list that is being presented to CCP today.
\o/ WOOHOO!
-- [Aussie players: join ANZAC channel] |
Rip Minner
Gallente ARMITAGE Logistics Salvage and Industries
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Posted - 2010.08.18 04:28:00 -
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Originally by: Trebor Daehdoow Just a quick note -- TeaDaze apparently forgot to post the fact that this passed during CSM4 and is currently listed as "in process" to CCP.
It also made it through the recent crowdsourcing and CSM filtering and is on our list that is being presented to CCP today.
Yes just in time lol better late then never Is it a rock? Point a Lazer at it and profit. Is it a ship? Point a Lazer at it and profit. I dont realy see any differnces here. |
Tigrandyr
Everset Dropbears
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Posted - 2010.08.19 06:12:00 -
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supported
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PureMurder
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Posted - 2010.08.19 15:06:00 -
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seems reasonable
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Dirk Smacker
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Posted - 2010.08.19 15:26:00 -
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Supported
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Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
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Posted - 2010.08.19 17:26:00 -
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Totally agree with this.
Inactive accounts should not be able to make progress in the game.
------------------------ Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer "I've got a couple of Strippers on my ship... and they just love to dance!" ------------------------ |
Yldrad
The Dandy KillerS
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Posted - 2010.08.20 21:05:00 -
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Edited by: Yldrad on 20/08/2010 21:06:38 Issue resolved.
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Mara Rinn
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Posted - 2010.08.21 03:49:00 -
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Originally by: Yldrad Edited by: Yldrad on 20/08/2010 21:06:38 Issue resolved.
... and there was much rejoicing! -- [Aussie players: join ANZAC channel] |
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