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Arcturus Archangel
Sons of Michael
71
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Posted - 2012.06.26 06:17:00 -
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Warren Gee wrote:For anyone reading this thead i can confirm that the OP's story is infact correct and that az tek's story is full of lies... hes our main recruiter, why, because hes so fail in RL that he spends 16 hours online per day "playing" spaceships and leadership thinks that they may aswel use him for recruitment.
how do i know this, well on my main im actually in heretic .. for the most part they are good guys but theres a few idiots in there. az tek being chief annoying douchebag . hes taken his whole recruiter thing to heart and his "spaceimportance" has truly gone to his head. trys to troll fellow heretics and when they own him he goes bitching to alliance leadership and trying to get people kicked .
all the people i like and hang out with in heretics hate aztek.. its only the idiots and pubbies who put up with his crap.
How do i know all this? well my main is actually in heretic army.. not for long though as im gonna bail as soon as i find a decent corp/alliance with less lies and bitchy politics .
I would make this post using my main but since az tek appears to be the worlds most deluded and compulsive liar i dont want him making up tons of fictitious slanderous bullcrap about my toonie - which he 100% would try and do.
any potential recruits - you have been warned.
OH and PS... If you kill anything that drops faction loot.. expect Az Tek and other Heretic leadership to force you to hand over and faction items for alliance wallet (AKA their own wallet). the leadership litterally race each other to be the first to tell you to give them loot. if u kill something even remotely shiny then for the next 5 days u can expect to be convod by the vultures looking for their scraps of loot as one by one they discover the mail on the KB. its ******* pathetic and annoying.
Signed,
Soon to be ex-heretic.
Can I get confirmation that this is legit? This will be interesting on how it will be played out now. True or not, this changes things.
*Sits back and watches the show while eating buttery popcorn*
Corporations and their Interstellar Kredits are soon parted. |
Secktar
Hell's Horsemen
1
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Posted - 2012.06.27 00:10:00 -
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Arcturus Archangel wrote:Warren Gee wrote:For anyone reading this thead i can confirm that the OP's story is infact correct and that az tek's story is full of lies... hes our main recruiter, why, because hes so fail in RL that he spends 16 hours online per day "playing" spaceships and leadership thinks that they may aswel use him for recruitment.
how do i know this, well on my main im actually in heretic .. for the most part they are good guys but theres a few idiots in there. az tek being chief annoying douchebag . hes taken his whole recruiter thing to heart and his "spaceimportance" has truly gone to his head. trys to troll fellow heretics and when they own him he goes bitching to alliance leadership and trying to get people kicked .
all the people i like and hang out with in heretics hate aztek.. its only the idiots and pubbies who put up with his crap.
How do i know all this? well my main is actually in heretic army.. not for long though as im gonna bail as soon as i find a decent corp/alliance with less lies and bitchy politics .
I would make this post using my main but since az tek appears to be the worlds most deluded and compulsive liar i dont want him making up tons of fictitious slanderous bullcrap about my toonie - which he 100% would try and do.
any potential recruits - you have been warned.
OH and PS... If you kill anything that drops faction loot.. expect Az Tek and other Heretic leadership to force you to hand over and faction items for alliance wallet (AKA their own wallet). the leadership litterally race each other to be the first to tell you to give them loot. if u kill something even remotely shiny then for the next 5 days u can expect to be convod by the vultures looking for their scraps of loot as one by one they discover the mail on the KB. its ******* pathetic and annoying.
Signed,
Soon to be ex-heretic. Can I get confirmation that this is legit? This will be interesting on how it will be played out now. True or not, this changes things. *Sits back and watches the show while eating buttery popcorn*
It did play out, Az Tek is no longer in Heretics. There is more I know, but Meh. |
Arcturus Archangel
Sons of Michael
72
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Posted - 2012.06.27 05:48:00 -
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So what dies AzTek gotta say now? Care to share Secktar? I would love to have at that big fat juicy steak. Corporations and their Interstellar Kredits are soon parted. |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10557
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Posted - 2012.06.27 06:04:00 -
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It's like I'm watching professional wrestling. Sky Captain of Your Heart Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM8 |
Secktar
Hell's Horsemen Like I Give A F--K
1
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Posted - 2012.06.27 23:08:00 -
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Arcturus Archangel wrote:So what dies AzTek gotta say now? Care to share Secktar? I would love to have at that big fat juicy steak.
Why not...
He tried to recruit my corp into Heretics... The next day he convos me and says "you dont want to join now, they are a bunch of ungrateful @sses and dont respect the work I put into this allaince. Im going to quit and do my own thing. Oh, I have a favor to ask, my 4 accounts are running out and Im homeless, Can I borrow some ISK?"
I said LOL and then blocked him.
I sent Griz my logs after reading this... and BOOT!!! |
jelly haters
Israeli Space Corporation
0
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Posted - 2012.06.28 01:51:00 -
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BAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA THAT LYING IDIOT GOT KICKED OUT OF ALLIANCE !! HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA OWNED !!!!
GOOD JOB HERETICS !!! |
Korg Tronix
Heretic Army Heretic Nation
53
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Posted - 2012.06.28 11:09:00 -
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i don't know, i go afk for a month and all this drama occurs Evil: If I were creating the world I wouldn't mess about with butterflies and daffodils. I would have started with lasers, eight o'clock, Day One! [zaps one of his minions accidentally, minion screams] |
evereplicant
State Protectorate Caldari State
157
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Posted - 2012.06.28 12:23:00 -
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Arcturus Archangel wrote:Warren Gee wrote:For anyone reading this thead i can confirm that the OP's story is infact correct and that az tek's story is full of lies... hes our main recruiter, why, because hes so fail in RL that he spends 16 hours online per day "playing" spaceships and leadership thinks that they may aswel use him for recruitment.
how do i know this, well on my main im actually in heretic .. for the most part they are good guys but theres a few idiots in there. az tek being chief annoying douchebag . hes taken his whole recruiter thing to heart and his "spaceimportance" has truly gone to his head. trys to troll fellow heretics and when they own him he goes bitching to alliance leadership and trying to get people kicked .
all the people i like and hang out with in heretics hate aztek.. its only the idiots and pubbies who put up with his crap.
How do i know all this? well my main is actually in heretic army.. not for long though as im gonna bail as soon as i find a decent corp/alliance with less lies and bitchy politics .
I would make this post using my main but since az tek appears to be the worlds most deluded and compulsive liar i dont want him making up tons of fictitious slanderous bullcrap about my toonie - which he 100% would try and do.
any potential recruits - you have been warned.
OH and PS... If you kill anything that drops faction loot.. expect Az Tek and other Heretic leadership to force you to hand over and faction items for alliance wallet (AKA their own wallet). the leadership litterally race each other to be the first to tell you to give them loot. if u kill something even remotely shiny then for the next 5 days u can expect to be convod by the vultures looking for their scraps of loot as one by one they discover the mail on the KB. its ******* pathetic and annoying.
Signed,
Soon to be ex-heretic. Can I get confirmation that this is legit? This will be interesting on how it will be played out now. True or not, this changes things. *Sits back and watches the show while eating buttery popcorn*
I would say this is definitely true, being involved with Heretics. Yes they definitely make all pilots handover any faction gear, and its seems to be never seen again, but only for alliance/corp leaders.
Heretics have back stabbed even their close allies, I wouldnt mind but as pvp group they aint very good. They only fight in frigs to make the effeciency look good. Anyone can camp a gate and then use an Orca (eh Wili)
When anyone decent comes into Amamake they run and hide or move somewhere until it cools off... Any decent corp could take Amamake at any time...
but it does seem that Heretics activity has severely waned, and all i can blame is the leaders for that. They dont know their ar*e from their elbow. They had some good corps around them but they screwed them over, they could of been decent, now well...
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Serenity Frye
Heretic Army Heretic Nation
1
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Posted - 2012.06.29 19:56:00 -
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so many hurt butts. the real truth behind the loot situation is that Mother Amamake demands her sacrifice. you cannot blame the leadership for this, for it is the way. of course, this only applies in corp operations, but i encourage you to believe the faceless cowards of this thread instead.
as for az tek, i've been away for a while, so i don't really know the guy, but if you got scammed by him, then you are pretty bad at this game. the guy is borderline illiterate, and only had a chance to do what he did due to the summer lull in activity. guy is lower than the lowliest of brutors, and his name and actions will soon be forgotten. |
rat atat
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.06.30 13:07:00 -
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summer lul in activity or the alliance is litterally dead on its feet ? keep telling yourself things will pick up again. recruiting from the recruitment channel is not a good sign.. real alliances dont do that bro. |
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Griznatle
Heretic Army Heretic Nation
23
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Posted - 2012.06.30 19:24:00 -
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Without attempting to just start barfing up hurrdurr onto the already awful thread, let me first take a second to lol at the mads. Obviously people care so much to post on alts, drama llamas are best llamas.
The nation wallet is used to pay for logistics, fleet replacement fund (lol t2 insurance), and our pos. Nice try though. And yes, if you kill a ship while participating in a fc'd fleet, the loot goes to the alliance to pay for losses.
Stop acting like the glass seagulls (or however u spell that tarded American Bill) that you pay no taxes but get all the police and firemen that you could want.
Also, on a quick official note. Aztek was kicked, by me, after he continued to persue scams ala recruitment to alliance. another sidenote. IF THE PERSON IS NOT IN THE EXEC CORP OR HAVE A OFFIZAL TITLE, DONT BEREIVE DEM!
oh and finally
umad?
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Ifly Uwalk
Empire Tax Collection Agency
239
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Posted - 2012.06.30 20:36:00 -
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Griznatle wrote:IF THE PERSON IS NOT IN THE EXEC CORP OR HAVE A OFFIZAL TITLE, DONT BEREIVE DEM! best part of this thread imo |
Johnson Johnson
Heretic University Heretic Nation
20
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Posted - 2012.06.30 22:11:00 -
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he hath spoken, the end |
Tastes Like Lobster
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
12
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Posted - 2012.06.30 23:02:00 -
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Az Tek wrote:
...and the hips i gave him.
You old smoothy, Az... |
Arcturus Archangel
Sons of Michael
96
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Posted - 2012.07.01 07:45:00 -
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Secktar wrote:Arcturus Archangel wrote:So what dies AzTek gotta say now? Care to share Secktar? I would love to have at that big fat juicy steak. Why not... He tried to recruit my corp into Heretics... The next day he convos me and says "you dont want to join now, they are a bunch of ungrateful @sses and dont respect the work I put into this allaince. Im going to quit and do my own thing. Oh, I have a favor to ask, my 4 accounts are running out and Im homeless, Can I borrow some ISK?" I said LOL and then blocked him. I sent Griz my logs after reading this... and BOOT!!!
You deserve a cookie.
[Insert witty quote here] |
Jude Lloyd
Heretic Army Heretic Nation
353
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Posted - 2012.07.01 19:41:00 -
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Az Tek is out of Heretics.
We apologize for the continued drama.
Now I'm going to get back to celebrating our first victory in ATX. o7 Heretic Army Warlord and Diplomat Host of Frigfest http://judelloyd.blog.com/ http://kb.heretic-army.biz/
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Blobber NL
The Ultima Thule
95
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Posted - 2012.07.01 21:36:00 -
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Nicole Severasse wrote:Just figured I would drop this on the forums for anyone looking to join Heretic Nation.
As a newer corporation looking to move into piracy instead of primarily suicide ganks, I decided to start looking for an alliance. Found Heretic Nation and started talking to Az Tek. Seemed like a cool guy, and tl:dr, I gave him 1.2b for a security deposit. This was supposed to cover security issues from our corp joining the alliance.
I have no doubt he will deny it, and claim I gave him the isk out of kindness, but figured at least now a search on Heretic Nation will return at least one hit on a scam.
Trolls, proceed.
EDIT - Title edited for accuracy, this issue was handled by Heretic Nation.
if you give a stranger money in this game and actually think you wil get it back... then sir, you are a lunatic.
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StoneCold
Praetorian Cannibals
17
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Posted - 2012.07.02 10:28:00 -
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Jihadswarm.
jihad-swarm-dot
3 things that shouldn-¦t find their way into a corp-name. You, dear sir or madam, deserved to pay that bill. And it makes me sad that you only payed 1.2b.
You can easily mark yourself as viable target by... |
Garven Dreis
Count With Teddy Mercenaries Stay Calm Don't Panic
52
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Posted - 2012.07.02 10:40:00 -
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This thread was actually pretty good. In Manticore we Trust |
Bethany Ring
Reverberation Inc
0
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Posted - 2012.07.02 19:09:00 -
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Garven Dreis wrote:This thread was actually pretty good. I agree best read of the week! |
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Arcturus Archangel
Sons of Michael
165
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Posted - 2012.07.02 21:35:00 -
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Azteek, y u no talk? [Insert witty quote here] |
Warren Gee
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2012.07.03 08:30:00 -
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Griznatle wrote: The nation wallet is used to pay for logistics, fleet replacement fund (lol t2 insurance), and our pos. Nice try though. And yes, if you kill a ship while participating in a fc'd fleet, the loot goes to the alliance to pay for losses.
Stop acting like the glass seagulls (or however u spell that tarded American Bill) that you pay no taxes but get all the police and firemen that you could want.
the above quote is an awful attempt at spin..
The truth is that its not just FC'd ops where faction loot MUST go to alliance.. it is ANY faction loot that is shown to drop on ANY heretic nation killmail.
One very memorable incident was when a member was told to hand over the faction items from a SOLO KILL (!!!) he got !! that is just insane. he actually lied and said that he sold the mods already and Griznatle and Jude LLoyd checked his personal hanger in station and saw the items were still in his items hangar and said he must give the mods or get kicked from alliance. He gave them the mods and left the corp about 2 weeks later because he had enough of the bulls**t .
Basically heretic nation appears to be a money making scam for the founders and directors.
the pvp is cheap and petty, no skill in killing nubs and then running from good fites..
If your interests are killing 10 day old players in amamake or making alliance directors personal wallets fat then by all means; join heretic nation . |
Korg Tronix
Heretic Army Heretic Nation
53
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Posted - 2012.07.03 09:18:00 -
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Warren Gee wrote:Griznatle wrote: The nation wallet is used to pay for logistics, fleet replacement fund (lol t2 insurance), and our pos. Nice try though. And yes, if you kill a ship while participating in a fc'd fleet, the loot goes to the alliance to pay for losses.
Stop acting like the glass seagulls (or however u spell that tarded American Bill) that you pay no taxes but get all the police and firemen that you could want.
the above quote is an awful attempt at spin.. The truth is that its not just FC'd ops where faction loot MUST go to alliance.. it is ANY faction loot that is shown to drop on ANY heretic nation killmail. One very memorable incident was when a member was told to hand over the faction items from a SOLO KILL (!!!) he got !! that is just insane. he actually lied and said that he sold the mods already and Griznatle and Jude LLoyd checked his personal hanger in station and saw the items were still in his items hangar and said he must give the mods or get kicked from alliance. He gave them the mods and left the corp about 2 weeks later because he had enough of the bulls**t . Basically heretic nation appears to be a money making scam for the founders and directors. the pvp is cheap and petty, no skill in killing nubs and then running from good fites.. If your interests are killing 10 day old players in amamake or making alliance directors personal wallets fat then by all means; join heretic nation .
I have never been asked to hand over any faction gear except stuff gotten when in fleet kills.
obligatory post with your main ending
Evil: If I were creating the world I wouldn't mess about with butterflies and daffodils. I would have started with lasers, eight o'clock, Day One! [zaps one of his minions accidentally, minion screams] |
Tetsel
Heretic Army Heretic Nation
24
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Posted - 2012.07.03 12:08:00 -
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Hello,
I'm Tetsel Director of the Heretic Nation Customer Support and here is an official statement, regarding our loot policy:
You're actually right, all faction loot are given to alliance leader and RMT'ed by me, I've just bought a "full stuffed" night club in Slovakia with the insane amount of faction loot our pilot give to me ! I mean this is totally insane, trillion and trillon of isk in my wallet at the moment !! you can't even imagine, Goon FW exploit is peanuts compared to our loot scam !
But I'm a fair and thanksfull pilot, so I just let enought isk to the official corp/alliance leader to handle the reimburse program, the POS/POCO (when we have some) and give some kind of distraction to our pilots with a fully Alliance funded ATX Team.
Best Regards
Tetsel
"The useless bittervet of this corp" Heretic Nation Customer Support Director |
Signal11th
580
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Posted - 2012.07.03 15:00:00 -
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Best thread I have read for a while, Top Work Chaps. God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!"-á I came second and won a toaster. |
eddie valvetino
Snuff Box
10
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Posted - 2012.07.03 16:34:00 -
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Nicole Severasse wrote:Tyreul Severasse wrote:Nicole, are we related?
Also, Heretic Nation scammage noted. I think not, common last name and all. @Tauren I know, I wasn't entirely comfortable with it, but again, I could not find anything suggesting that Heretic Nation or its members had scammed anyone before.
erm... you never heard of pirates scamming? really?
think you're isk went to smarter chaps, -10 darwin points for you |
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