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Saladin Freeman
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Posted - 2009.12.24 19:26:00 -
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-So I recently hired what I was told were the third or fourth best mercenaries in this game -Underworld Excavators - to grief a corp of well deserving douchbags over the holidays. . . sadly this did not happen. After paying them, and with no war-dec forthcoming, I contacted them and was told that they never recieved payment. After a few days they relented and admitted that they did recieve payment, but really were'nt interested in the contract after all. . . but they would keep my money, for their troubles.
When I contacted them and asked for a refund, since they backed out of the contract at the last minute, I was told that I was a ******ed noob who just got scammed, and that I should 'Do something about it!"
Does anyone regulate these clowns? Or can anyone call themselves a MERCENARY and use that as a license to steal?
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Alt0101
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Posted - 2009.12.24 19:44:00 -
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1 you got scammed. Face it 2 Next time you want to kill someone, do it yourself. 3 Don't trust in criminals. 4 Next time you want to hire mercs pay them half the fee before and half after the job.
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Firkragg
Blue Labs Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.12.24 19:44:00 -
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If you send me 100mill ill make them pay for this transgression.
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SetrakDark
Caldari DarkCorp Technology and Finance
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Posted - 2009.12.24 19:45:00 -
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Sad trolling by butthurt (ex)targets only reinforces their image as successful mercs.
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Mordred McKenna
Standards and Practices
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Posted - 2009.12.24 19:55:00 -
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Originally by: Saladin Freeman -So I recently hired what I was told were the third or fourth best mercenaries in this game -Underworld Excavators - to grief a corp of well deserving douchbags over the holidays. . . sadly this did not happen. After paying them, and with no war-dec forthcoming, I contacted them and was told that they never recieved payment. After a few days they relented and admitted that they did recieve payment, but really were'nt interested in the contract after all. . . but they would keep my money, for their troubles.
When I contacted them and asked for a refund, since they backed out of the contract at the last minute, I was told that I was a ******ed noob who just got scammed, and that I should 'Do something about it!"
Does anyone regulate these clowns? Or can anyone call themselves a MERCENARY and use that as a license to steal?
If you have proof (Screenshots, Chatlogs, Video), this would be a pretty major scandal among the mercenary crews, and I can see Underworld Excavators losing a huge chunk of customers if this turns out to be true.
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Saladin Freeman
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Posted - 2009.12.24 20:48:00 -
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I have chat logs of sevral of the conversations I had with Varesk, but after looking at the forum rules, I am sad I cannot post them here without facing the banhammer . . . I will however send them to any reader of this forum who is interested via eve-mail.
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Varesk
Gallente Maelstrom Crew Underworld Excavators
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Posted - 2009.12.24 20:55:00 -
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hey jericho steel hows it going?
please post the chat logs. you can post them from a 3rd party site and link them here. i personally would be grateful for that service. considering that conversation never took place.
i do not take contracts for -UA- nor do i scam. i will be glad to post my wallet logs and give my full api to a trusted 3rd party for verification of this. to speed along this effort mr steele, please give post the date of this conversation. this will allow the third party investigators to find this transaction faster. also this will allow me to screen shot my wallet and post the link for everyone here on c and p to see.
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Paul Clavet
Honorless Internet Jerks
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Posted - 2009.12.24 21:03:00 -
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Unless you provide proof in the form of a screenshot from your wallet showing that payment was made, you are just another butthurt target trying to get back at UE.
And... third or fourth best? I would say that Solty's gang is AT LEAST #2. ---- Blog: My Loot, Your Tears |
JingJangJung
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Posted - 2009.12.24 21:13:00 -
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bunch of stupid words without a proof..
pics or it didnt happen:D
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Che Jin
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Posted - 2009.12.24 21:15:00 -
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+1
Post a limited API and lets see who you are behind this month's alt.
I will bet you are the only character on the account.
Better yet. Find someone like Chribba to look at your transaction logs and have him authenticate that you were "ripped off".
People like you (and the well-pwnd target you are the alt of) fail to understand that it's this kind of "verbal diarrhea" are what got you contracted in the first place. They don't need to scam you, hell they could rat that much isk in one day with one of their professional peers in nullsec.
See? Now you've failed at pvp and you've failed at the truth.
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Khul Drukath
Maelstrom Crew Underworld Excavators
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Posted - 2009.12.24 21:16:00 -
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Hi Saladin,
Varesk has at no time ever been given any authority to accept contracts on behalf of the group. Before Maelstrom Crew joined Underworld Excavators that responsibility was solely mine and mine alone. Since we have joined the alliance the responsibility has passed on to Le Soltueur, as I have told the people who have convo'd or mailed me asking for a quote.
At no point would I act so unprofessionally towards a client. For a start it is against corp policy to smack, so I'm amazed to hear that you have genuine chatlogs of being called a <insert expletive> noob. We treat all clients in a respectful and corteous manner.
It is of course quite common to get attacked on the forums by alts in npc corporations trying to make up rumours in order to get back at a group that they can do nothing about within the game.
I back up Varesk's requests for you to post chatlogs and timestamps of when you claim the money was sent. I will be happy to pay for a 3rd party auditor from MD to verify wallet history for Varesk, if you are willing to provide collateral to the same 3rd party auditor to cover the costs if you are found to be lying.
(please could all MCrew pilots refrain from posting a reply; I am eager to hear Saladin's reply.)
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Awesome Possum
Imperium Signal Corps
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Posted - 2009.12.24 21:32:00 -
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/yawn @ chatlogs
Not only can I provide a "genuine" chatlog of Jericho Freeman calling himself a platypus sniffing panty wearer, I can date it the day before Eve went live.
Don't trust chatlogs, ever. ♥
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SetrakDark
Caldari DarkCorp Technology and Finance
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Posted - 2009.12.24 21:42:00 -
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Originally by: Awesome Possum Not only can I provide a "genuine" chatlog of Jericho Freeman calling himself a platypus sniffing panty wearer, I can date it the day before Eve went live.
I would like to see these chatlogs.
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Lee Dalton
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2009.12.25 00:46:00 -
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Originally by: Awesome Possum /yawn @ chatlogs
I have chatlogs that show that WHACK are disbanding after Christmas. :(
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Paul Clavet
Honorless Internet Jerks
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Posted - 2009.12.25 01:30:00 -
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Originally by: Awesome Possum Jericho Freeman calling himself a platypus sniffing panty wearer
Not that there's anything wrong with that. ---- Blog: My Loot, Your Tears |
Gregor Vernof
Minmatar Imperium Signal Corps Underworld Excavators
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Posted - 2009.12.25 02:44:00 -
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Originally by: Awesome Possum /yawn @ chatlogs
Not only can I provide a "genuine" chatlog of Jericho Freeman calling himself a platypus sniffing panty wearer, I can date it the day before Eve went live.
Don't trust chatlogs, ever.
...er, Possum... you're confusing the chat logs again... Jericho said he thought Platypus were myth made up by down-under players to confuse and distract him from his L33t PvP madskilz. I then explained I liked sniffing platypus fur through the used cheerleader panties I wear over my head (I brought them online and have signed assurances they are legit....).
Sorry for the confusion guys....
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Awesome Possum
Imperium Signal Corps
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Posted - 2009.12.25 03:59:00 -
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Originally by: SetrakDark
Originally by: Awesome Possum Not only can I provide a "genuine" chatlog of Jericho Freeman calling himself a platypus sniffing panty wearer, I can date it the day before Eve went live.
I would like to see these chatlogs.
Since I type faster than I forge, I'll just explain how to do it:
1. Change the date of your computer to the desired date, in this case Mayish 2003.
2. Open actual chatlog. Edit names / chat to suit. Cut/paste into a new txt file (created after comp date change). Make sure name of file matches other chatlogs, having name of character, date, and time. Make sure date/time match the time the text file was first created.
3. Change the date of your computer back to current.
4. Right click > Properties... properties will show it was created and last modified 6yrs ago.
I've done it before, uploaded the forged logs to eve-files, but couldn't find the thread on eve-search =/ ♥
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Taram Caldar
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2009.12.25 04:09:00 -
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Provide a trusted 3rd party... hell I'll do it... with your FULL API and tell me when these alleged transactions occurred. I'll be happy to go into your API, find the transactions and confirm/deny whether tis true.
Not that I expect you to because I suspect you're trolling.
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SetrakDark
Caldari DarkCorp Technology and Finance
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Posted - 2009.12.25 05:01:00 -
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Edited by: SetrakDark on 25/12/2009 05:01:27
Originally by: Awesome Possum stuff
No, I want you to make them so I can read them.
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Miyamoto Isoruku
Caldari The Phoenix Enclave
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Posted - 2009.12.25 08:47:00 -
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Originally by: Saladin Freeman stuff
Proof or STFU.
I for one suspect that you're just making **** up, but hey I've been wrong before.
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Lady Spank
Amarr Sekret Kool Klubb
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Posted - 2009.12.25 10:23:00 -
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I think that's the last we will see of Saladin Freeman in this thread ~
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Gregor Vernof
Minmatar Imperium Signal Corps Underworld Excavators
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Posted - 2009.12.25 10:42:00 -
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Do you think it might be taking my fetish a little too far if I don't wait for the Platypus to dry before I start the sniffing?
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Awesome Possum
Imperium Signal Corps
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Posted - 2009.12.25 12:57:00 -
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Originally by: SetrakDark Edited by: SetrakDark on 25/12/2009 05:01:27
Originally by: Awesome Possum stuff
No, I want you to make them so I can read them.
I'm lazy and its christmas. Maybe after new years. ♥
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Le Soltueur
Underworld Excavators
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Posted - 2009.12.25 17:43:00 -
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Underworld Excavators only contact for contract negotiations has always been, and will always be me and only me.
Varesk would NEVER negotiate a contract of the alliance, nor would he ever negotiate a contract on behalf of MCREW - that was Khul's job.
If you have proof of payment sent to either Varesk, or to Underworld Excavators wallet, feel free to post that unaltered evidence here, or go die in a fire. Slowly.
Jericho - If I do find out it's you there will be consequences. And please, save your API key. Anyone can have multiple accounts or delete a 'posting troll account'.
Merry Christmas.
Solty.
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Landrassa
Friendly Neighbourhood Extortion Company
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Posted - 2009.12.25 18:21:00 -
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Hah, with threads like these, who needs to advertise?
Seriously, if this is the best one's enemies can come up with to fight back, you have to be doing something right, so congratulations obvious alt, you just gave Solty and his crew a big thumbs up... --------------------------------------------------- Recruitment thread |
Denalak
Gallente Maelstrom Crew Underworld Excavators
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Posted - 2009.12.26 02:25:00 -
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Originally by: Landrassa Hah, with threads like these, who needs to advertise?
Seriously, if this is the best one's enemies can come up with to fight back, you have to be doing something right, so congratulations obvious alt, you just gave Solty and his crew a big thumbs up...
Yes I could see why they are quite mad at all the fights we had with them.
They lost a lot on our major engagements.
http://uncasolty.com/?a=kill_related&kll_id=9461 http://uncasolty.com/?a=kill_related&kll_id=9567 http://uncasolty.com/?a=kill_related&kll_id=9590
I dont see why they would be mad since they have shown the love to keep fighting.
Good fights guys.
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