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ModeratedToSilence
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Posted - 2012.06.21 22:07:00 -
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Well done Goons. This is player driven content at its best. |
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Posted - 2012.06.21 22:55:00 -
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Ryunosuke Kusanagi wrote:this whole thread is tl:dr (did read the OP though)
so we have 1) Goons being Goons, finding a loophole in the system, and exploiting it to the nth degree 2) CCP patches Loophole 3) Goons make post of what they did 4) Pubbies cry that Goons exploited a loophole in the coding and rigged the markets, calls for bannings with thier pitchforks and torches. (ie. typical Thursday Evening in EVE online)
did I miss anything? :)
Pretty much except: 1. Your use of the word exploit is different to the meaning that CCP use it for. 2. Goons supposedly tried to pass information regarding loophole on to CCP prior to utlising current mechanics (evidenced by twitter post - claimed by aryth) 3. The tears have been pretty limited 4. Much of the thread is Goons making many posts. |
ModeratedToSilence
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Posted - 2012.06.21 23:02:00 -
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Cipher Jones wrote:Harrowedsmiley wrote:Hats off to the Goons, they did the research and therefore get the profits. Much like Enron.
Please explain the comparison here. I do not know where Goonswarm are listed and who is buying selling their shares and what information they are being told.
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ModeratedToSilence
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Posted - 2012.06.22 03:14:00 -
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Ten Bulls wrote:If only someone had told CCP that it was a bad idea to make FW about ISK and mercenaries.
Surely CCP would have listened if they had been told they where makign a mistake.
SURELY !!!
Yeah if only those people had just carried on and shown via actions what they had been warning CCP about. Oh wait they did... |
ModeratedToSilence
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Posted - 2012.06.22 08:49:00 -
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Vincent VanDamme wrote:InternetSpaceship wrote:Vincent VanDamme wrote:So, a bug was abused?
This is a no brainer, isn't it?
Is orbiting a ship at 500m with mwd to make it harder to shoot you an exploit? Because it's the same thing here. They used a game mechanic provided to them, studied it, understood it, and used it to help themselves succeed in the game. Everything worked exactly as it should have. Is debuffing your ships so they have unlimited range an exploit? 1: Was this the intended use of this mechanic? No 2: Were the people involved aware this was not the intended use of this mechanic? Yes 3: Did the people involved profit from the unintended use of this mechanic? Yes
Did they notify CCP? Yes
Did they receive a reply that informed them such actions were illegal in the game? No |
ModeratedToSilence
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Posted - 2012.06.23 01:31:00 -
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Aryth wrote:Cygnet Lythanea wrote:Aryth wrote:I completely agree they would. Hence we kept it low key. Another pcgamer article from the PR guy. PCGamer I particularly love this part: "On the other hand I worry that some players donGÇÖt see it that way, that they donGÇÖt understand they are capable of matching GoonswarmGÇÖs (arguable) successes through the strength of their own imagination and social circle and that Goons, like any Alliance in EVEGÇÖs history, arenGÇÖt laser-proof. T" How exactly does one match the staggering profits of such an exploit after CCP has specifically iced it? Enlighten me as to how I can make trillions in profit with next to no risk whatsoever. Pretty easily. Speculate on patches. That is what we do. This isn't the first multi-trillion hit we have landed on a patch.
That is why Dev Blogs and Patch notes are the true gold in Eve Online.
Pre Tyrannis: PI materials research Pre Incursions: Snasha drop research Pre Incarna: Plex pricing research Pre Inferno: Faction Warfare research
This is a quick list with little thought from recent patches - there are myriads of options for speculation every patch. Any individual who claims to really "play" Eve Online should be up to date with upcoming changes and run their own testing on Sisi.
If the Goons involved n this particular patch speculation are "punished" then CCP are changing a precedent that has been utilised on every patch released since I started playing this game. |
ModeratedToSilence
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Posted - 2012.06.23 03:46:00 -
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A large amount of stone throwing entering this thread. Moderators really should clean it up. |
ModeratedToSilence
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Posted - 2012.06.23 04:50:00 -
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Cygnet Lythanea wrote:Powers Sa wrote:Both of the 100page controversy threads are about goonswarm :V You expected something else? You guys really need to hire a PR consultant.
Any publicity is good publicity.
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