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Antisocial Malkavian
Aliastra Gallente Federation
148
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Posted - 2012.06.23 18:34:00 -
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AureoBroker wrote:Dear goons; again. If anyone had come to ccp and asked "Can we do this?", you KNEW what answer you would've gotten. So, why you did it?
This is an exploit, that is a completely unintented use of game mechanics. You can justify it in-lore if you want: Factions would never pay out un-earned rewards, and would launch investigations. Think of CCP as acting in-game, rather than out. Would the Minmatar let you do that? God, no. So, why whine?
But ... but ... we're here to destroy YOUR game. lol
http://gizmodo.com/5913381/season-your-food-with-salt-from-real-human-tears
you will be harvested |
corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
478
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Posted - 2012.06.23 18:35:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Piranhas wrote:So if this isn't intended gameplay what about:
Titans - There is a lot of them Titans are rare, a major alliance might have one or two, some might even have as many as four titans. "64K of ram will be enough for anyone."
"There is market in the world for maybe 5 computers"
"ThereGÇÖs no chance that the iPhone is going to get any significant market share. No chance."
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Reptail
SPACE LIGHT EMPIRE
1
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Posted - 2012.06.23 18:35:00 -
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i've hundreds gallons of beer meet me at jita 4-4 memorial
gotta go out soon (btw) |
Asuri Kinnes
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
492
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Posted - 2012.06.23 18:36:00 -
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ITT: People taking Eve seriously.
Go get some sun.
Seriously.
You know there's something fundamentally wrong when the only way people can think of to promote the "best" part of the game is to make everything else suck more. |
SwahiliRapist Zuluabortion
Republic University Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.06.23 18:38:00 -
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Antisocial Malkavian wrote:AureoBroker wrote:Dear goons; again. If anyone had come to ccp and asked "Can we do this?", you KNEW what answer you would've gotten. So, why you did it?
This is an exploit, that is a completely unintented use of game mechanics. You can justify it in-lore if you want: Factions would never pay out un-earned rewards, and would launch investigations. Think of CCP as acting in-game, rather than out. Would the Minmatar let you do that? God, no. So, why whine? But ... but ... we're here to destroy YOUR game. lol
Congratulations to you then in wasting your life
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Antisocial Malkavian
Aliastra Gallente Federation
148
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Posted - 2012.06.23 18:38:00 -
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Luis Graca wrote:So many people talking about the sandbox
Quick question whats a sandbox and it's limits?
For me i always thing it was a game were everyone plays together and doesn't have limits but now i'm kinda lost
Dunno; I never played in a sandbox that didnt have those wooden walls all around it and grass beyond that.
http://gizmodo.com/5913381/season-your-food-with-salt-from-real-human-tears
you will be harvested |
Antisocial Malkavian
Aliastra Gallente Federation
148
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Posted - 2012.06.23 18:41:00 -
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Ryunosuke Kusanagi wrote:
ahh I see. Still there is a small discrepency in your statements, The Devs knew about the problem, but you did not? it sounds like there isnt clear communications from the devs to your team that "Hey, this might be a problem, might want to keep an eye on it." type of deal. And apparently, not confirming or denying anything in this statement, that the devs knew about this from it's introduction on Sisi, I do not have the bug reports or such to view this so cannot say one way or another.
Yeah you know cause theyre totally not human and infallable being omnipotent beings like you are after all http://gizmodo.com/5913381/season-your-food-with-salt-from-real-human-tears
you will be harvested |
Antisocial Malkavian
Aliastra Gallente Federation
148
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Posted - 2012.06.23 18:44:00 -
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Danfen Fenix wrote:People keep throwing around the word sandbox... The clue is in the spelling Sand boxAll sandboxes have walls, and goons simply hit them this time Whats the big deal? One thing I have noticed though with you goons is that, when somethings in your favour, you're all happy. Once it's against you, you whine like theres no tommorow...All the while knocking on people who whine about you, or things you agree with. HTFU?
You sir are wise
Tallon Sylph wrote:CCP Sreegs wrote:Tallon Sylph wrote:AureoBroker wrote:Dear goons; again. This is an exploit, that is a completely unintented use of game mechanics.
We didn't intend for this game mechanic to work in the way that we designed it to work even though people repeatedly told us it was dumb. I can state 100% that we did not intend the mechanic to function this way. Not working as intended? Oh my. Maybe you guys should make things better rather than going on asset grabbing rampages when a group of players understands the impact of your changes better than you do.
I didnt think Goons were so poor that 5 trillion would hurt so much. http://gizmodo.com/5913381/season-your-food-with-salt-from-real-human-tears
you will be harvested |
Reptail
SPACE LIGHT EMPIRE
1
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Posted - 2012.06.23 18:47:00 -
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c'mon do not be shy if u believe in what u r doing
come shooot jita mem |
Antisocial Malkavian
Aliastra Gallente Federation
148
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Posted - 2012.06.23 18:48:00 -
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Xython wrote:CCP Sreegs wrote:I don't disagree. We should have notified the people we did things to. So, learning experience then? GROUP HUG, EVERYONE!
I believe the term is HTFU or maybe UMAD BRO?
Or is it pubbie? Maybe youre CCP's pubbies now...
Xython wrote:CCP Sreegs wrote:Tallon Sylph wrote:Maybe you guys should make things better rather than going on asset grabbing rampages when a group of players understands the impact of your changes better than you do. If that ever happens I'll agree with you. Ok. Please see this thread for a prime example of it happening.
Ah, I understand, thats the disconnect. YOU see "asset grabbing", the rest of us see "market correction"
some see "justice" http://gizmodo.com/5913381/season-your-food-with-salt-from-real-human-tears
you will be harvested |
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Asuri Kinnes
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
493
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Posted - 2012.06.23 18:49:00 -
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Antisocial Malkavian wrote:or maybe UMAD BRO? 136 pages? They PISSED!
You know there's something fundamentally wrong when the only way people can think of to promote the "best" part of the game is to make everything else suck more. |
Antisocial Malkavian
Aliastra Gallente Federation
148
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Posted - 2012.06.23 18:52:00 -
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Asuri Kinnes wrote:Antisocial Malkavian wrote:or maybe UMAD BRO? 136 pages? They PISSED!
Well no not really, the ones after the open letter and T20 were much longer and filled with many MORE of them and less ppl fighting against them. Also the supposed "DDOS" that brought down the forums (or thats what I heard after the fact, I think the official word was they were taken down to stop thousands of ppl from spamming them).
Xython wrote:Imiarr Timshae wrote:Just to save Screegs the typing:
The bottom line is you have to tolerate what we do or go make your own internet spaceship game to play.
The scary thing is, some of the BOB people that we threw out of EVE actually did that. Some mecha version of EVE. Very early in it's development but was kinda interesting.
Yeah its called Mechwarrior Online. Wheres he proof that they are BoB? I WOULD like to see that paper trail. Unless of course it doesnt exist.
Unless its another game http://gizmodo.com/5913381/season-your-food-with-salt-from-real-human-tears
you will be harvested |
Kuzim Blaky'all
Recycling and Recovery
0
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Posted - 2012.06.23 18:57:00 -
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Sup dawg!
dawgs use to say a dawg was causin' abuse but stoppin a dawg, dig it, they was no use but dig it dawg, re-re wasn't brakin' da law, mi was jus recyclied, and gettin up a dawg craw but ain no need for any but a reaper its tru, jus always need to stop a bad dawg who get thru an wreck up mi gig by bustin' mi boat makin it hard for re-re jus to stay afloat,
but dig it dawg, mi always have a way to get thru, you stop wi gig, yo messin' wit recyclien crew. you stop mi from gettin mad stacks of cash, yo gig is gonan end up tossed out wit da trash let re-re live on, let a dawg get him goods by lettin' mi posse into da filthy hoods best be let mi pack gettin they a full rack kuz if you mess wit kuzim him will always be back.
word dawg be safe. |
Wolodymyr
Breaking Ambitions Solid Foundation
168
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Posted - 2012.06.23 18:59:00 -
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Wow 136 pages! This thread is amazing.
Also I'd just like to point out
CCP nerfs tracking titans -> OMG CCP are working for goons!
CCP nerfs wardeck allies -> OMG CCP are working for goons!
CCP ignores hulkageddon tears -> OMG CCP are working for goons!
CCP does damage control after an exploit -> OMG CCP are out to get goons!
No matter what you do (or don't do) someone is going to get buttmad. And this is why people think that CCP ignores the forums, because it's a monkey house in here.
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:Yeah its called Mechwarrior Online. Wheres he proof that they are BoB? I WOULD like to see that paper trail. Unless of course it doesnt exist. Perpetuum actually. I honestly think PoCo based sov is a good idea https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1417544 |
Cygnet Lythanea
World Welfare Works Association Independent Faction
117
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Posted - 2012.06.23 19:01:00 -
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Antisocial Malkavian wrote: Yeah its called Mechwarrior Online. Wheres he proof that they are BoB?
Dunno about mech warrior, but they as far as I have seen in other mmos they seem to use the same names they had here. Unless it's goons trolling them.
Non Nobis Domine Non Nobis Sed Nomine Tua Da Na Glorium |
MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
429
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Posted - 2012.06.23 19:01:00 -
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Wolodymyr wrote:Wow 136 pages! This thread is amazing. Also I'd just like to point out CCP nerfs tracking titans -> OMG CCP are working for goons! CCP nerfs wardeck allies -> OMG CCP are working for goons! CCP ignores hulkageddon tears -> OMG CCP are working for goons! CCP does damage control after an exploit -> OMG CCP are out to get goons! No matter what you do (or don't do) someone is going to get buttmad. And this is why people think that CCP ignores the forums, because it's a monkey house in here. Antisocial Malkavian wrote:Yeah its called Mechwarrior Online. Wheres he proof that they are BoB? I WOULD like to see that paper trail. Unless of course it doesnt exist. Perpetuum actually.
ccp is like fox news... fair and balanced
PLEX FOR PIZZA! -áThere are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... |
Cygnet Lythanea
World Welfare Works Association Independent Faction
117
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Posted - 2012.06.23 19:04:00 -
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MeBiatch wrote:
ccp is like fox news... fair and balanced
Really, if you get down to it though, tossing out the alliance mechanic, limiting the size of corps, and erasing 9 years of accumulated wealth and SP would, actually, make the game fair and balanced.
Non Nobis Domine Non Nobis Sed Nomine Tua Da Na Glorium |
Wisdom Divine
State Protectorate Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2012.06.23 19:07:00 -
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Under the current system, the best CCP can hope for is to reduce the margin gain on market outliers. Jewbal did it at 81 ISK/LP, but even at 810 ISK/LP it's a profit.
The entire "let's base a reward system on player-determined market prices" idea ought to be scrapped. It's a shadow insurance system that messes up all of EVE.
And for what? There are other ways to reward for enemy militia kills, say, pocketing a chunk of their LPs. |
Reptail
SPACE LIGHT EMPIRE
1
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Posted - 2012.06.23 19:08:00 -
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s.h.i.t lol |
Reptail
SPACE LIGHT EMPIRE
1
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Posted - 2012.06.23 19:13:00 -
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this thread is now , why CCP makes our lives difficult instead of helping us
Eve it's a business c'mon, get it, we live here we die here ,
let's everyone profit with Eve |
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LoveFromAbove
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
20
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Posted - 2012.06.23 19:14:00 -
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Kuzim Blaky'all wrote:Sup dawg!
dawgs use to say a dawg was causin' abuse but stoppin a dawg, dig it, they was no use but dig it dawg, re-re wasn't brakin' da law, mi was jus recyclied, and gettin up a dawg craw but ain no need for any but a reaper its tru, jus always need to stop a bad dawg who get thru an wreck up mi gig by bustin' mi boat makin it hard for re-re jus to stay afloat,
but dig it dawg, mi always have a way to get thru, you stop wi gig, yo messin' wit recyclien crew. you stop mi from gettin mad stacks of cash, yo gig is gonan end up tossed out wit da trash let re-re live on, let a dawg get him goods by lettin' mi posse into da filthy hoods best be let mi pack gettin they a full rack kuz if you mess wit kuzim him will always be back.
word dawg be safe.
kuzim blaky'all is back and spittin da truf |
Dave stark
Martyr's Vengence Test Alliance Please Ignore
46
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Posted - 2012.06.23 19:14:00 -
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136 pages of beating a dead horse.
why is it 136 pages long? nobody has been banned, items have been seized to stop a market crash. move along. |
Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
952
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Posted - 2012.06.23 19:23:00 -
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Cygnet Lythanea wrote:MeBiatch wrote:
ccp is like fox news... fair and balanced
Really, if you get down to it though, tossing out the alliance mechanic, limiting the size of corps, and erasing 9 years of accumulated wealth and SP would, actually, make the game fair and balanced.
"It would be fair and balanced if CCP would violate every guiding principle they have ever lived by in order to specifically punish a group of people I don't like!"
Get a clue. And a life. |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
1500
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Posted - 2012.06.23 19:27:00 -
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I'm up to $126.47 in my PayPal acct from playing the real money auction house in Diablo 3.
This has much more relevance to me than whining about pretend space money in a space combat simulator. If I'm going to grind, I might as well be working toward paying my rent for it.
Still....
It's always fun to read these threads, so keep on keepin' on.
Mr Epeen There is no excuse beyond fatalistic self-indulgence and sheer laziness for doing nothing --á Iain Banks |
corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
479
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Posted - 2012.06.23 19:28:00 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:I'm up to $126.47 in my PayPal acct from playing the real money auction house in Diablo 3. This has much more relevance to me than whining about pretend space money in a space combat simulator. If I'm going to grind, I might as well be working toward paying my rent for it. Still.... It's always fun to read these threads, so keep on keepin' on. Mr Epeen
I make that in a couple of hours at a job I actually do quite enjoy doing, so that I can then come home and have fun playing my games, so congratulations? . |
Wolodymyr
Breaking Ambitions Solid Foundation
168
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Posted - 2012.06.23 19:29:00 -
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Wisdom Divine wrote:The entire "let's base a reward system on player-determined market prices" idea ought to be scrapped. It's a shadow insurance system that messes up all of EVE. First make the Faction Warfare LP store give out items that are unique and can't be bought from any LP store. That way the supply (and eventual market price) would be entirely based on how many people are doing FW.
Then make a fixed table of LP payouts per blown up ship type.
Rather than the current LP payout system which is vulnerable to this feedback loop where you can manipulate market prices to inflate LP rewards to get more isk to inflate market prices to boost LP rewards more. A fixed LP per ship payout would have a fixed LP income.
You'd still have free market influence from people selling LP store items unique to their factions LP store.
So for example let's say that the Amarr militia was doing poorly one week, not blowing up ships or taking sites. Then the supply of items from their LP store would slow down and prices would rise. This would encourage people to join the Amarr FW team, and reward Amarr victories more.
Then lets say the next week the Amarr were doing rather well and pumping LP. There would be more Amarr LP store items getting to the open market, which would lower the price.
Also if anyone decided to farm some alts by blowing up their ships they'd flood the market so much that prices would drop until they reached an equilibrium with whatever it would cost to buy ships to explode for LP. So let's say someone got 1000 LP for killing a drake and Drakes cost 60 mil. Then people would flood the market with LP items until 1000 LP worth of items cost less than 60 mil. And anyone who went out and got a real drake kill would make 60 million isk worth of LP. So the market prices of LP items would probably stabilize well under the breaking even point for blowing up ships on your alt for LP. I honestly think PoCo based sov is a good idea https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1417544 |
Dave stark
Martyr's Vengence Test Alliance Please Ignore
47
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Posted - 2012.06.23 19:29:00 -
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Salient Soldier wrote:I like how Goons can admit to breaking EvE, and they dont even get a slap on the wrist.
CCP, grow some balls and empty all Goon wallets to 0.
Then perma ban all accounts of those who admitted to being involved.
Then Fix EvE, k thx bai.
and how has your personal eve experience even been touched by this event? i sure as **** didn't feel any effects from it, i doubt you did either. hence, the game clearly wasn't broken. |
Jonah Gravenstein
507
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Posted - 2012.06.23 19:32:00 -
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ITT Some clever bastards in GSF did some research and figured out how to manipulate the system in their favour, said goons preen, their detractors whine about them preening.
Meanwhile real world governments and commercial entities have staff do the same and eventually fail miserably, screwing everybody else in the process.
Go goons, if I were you I'd pimp these guys as consultants for real life shenanigans, as a whole you guys seem to be more successful in successfully gaming market systems than most financial institutes in the last few years. War hasn't been fought this badly since Olaf the Hairy, High Chief of all the Vikings, accidentally ordered 80,000 battle helmets with the horns on the inside. |
Wu-Tian
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.06.23 19:46:00 -
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Alexzandvar Douglass wrote:This is like when the Villain in the movie spends so much time broadcasting his success it leads to his downfall.
The lost art of keeping a secret. |
Annasys
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10
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Posted - 2012.06.23 20:00:00 -
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