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idlemachinery
The Western District Way I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
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Posted - 2012.06.21 17:22:00 -
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they have cashed out even more billions in the LP store
RISE UP MY AMARR BROTHERS DRIVE BACK THE SLAVER SCUM
UNF UNF |
Jones Bones
Imperial Outlaws
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Posted - 2012.06.21 18:43:00 -
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umad? |
Aldrith Shutaq
Knighthood of the Merciful Crown Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2012.06.21 19:05:00 -
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See explanation here.
Seems we've all been played for fools.
Let this be a lesson to all of us, especially CCP. |
BolsterBomb
Bane Inc INQUISITION.
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Posted - 2012.06.21 19:24:00 -
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amazing. Very good jobs to the goons. This is how eve should be played and frankly am quite jealous they have the resources to figure this out. Brig General of The Caldari State
Traitor and Ex Luminaire General of The Gallente Federation |
chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2012.06.21 19:33:00 -
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Very nice work goons: Time will tell if they've set up a snowball effect for farmers to keep the Minmatar militia on top, or if things will equalize.
Even if things drop off for the minnies now, thanks goons for all the near free SFI's! |
RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
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Posted - 2012.06.21 20:01:00 -
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I saw the 50ish CNR's in Jita yesterday. totally crushed the market. Also 30+ navy scorps, but they went away later on.
The blog is about Minny Militia...But arent the CNR's and SNI's Caldari LP items? |
Kuehnelt
Devoid Privateering
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Posted - 2012.06.21 20:23:00 -
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chatgris wrote:Time will tell if they've set up a snowball effect for farmers to keep the Minmatar militia on top, or if things will equalize.
The interference they claim is with 1) the market, and with 2) the upgrade levels of systems. So there's no need for a crystal ball: they haven't done anything to keep the Minmatar where they are. |
Salicaz
Wolfsbrigade Lost Obsession
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Posted - 2012.06.21 20:38:00 -
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Just read the General Forums post and read Hans' posts. How biased can he get?
Calls the ammar whiners despite the truth coming out that the minmitar have been propped up by a massive loop hole exploit (prob not a real exploit but CCP derpness to push through a ****** feature onto a ****** feature). Yet he refuses to accept it. Refuses to acknowledge there has been a problem.
Hans, you're either useless as a CSM by not following through legitimate concerns (you're CSM persona is meant to be representing all militias) or you are only looking after your own militia's interests by not acknowledging vast descrepncies.
And hats off to the goons. And hats off to CCP...for a different reason. |
Julius Foederatus
Hyper-Nova
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Posted - 2012.06.21 20:43:00 -
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Looks like someone missed the part where they neglected to mention anything about actually plexing systems. You all have been getting beaten by the actual militia. These clowns were just exploiting a bad formula in the highest of high secs, more than 10 jumps from the main warzone. |
BolsterBomb
Bane Inc INQUISITION.
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Posted - 2012.06.21 20:51:00 -
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Julius correct, however system control without coordinated dumps are meaningless. You cant control enough systems (there aren't enough) to maintain t3+
I suspect after the goons leave Minnis will be at t2 (thinking that amar are smart enough to actually keep them there) its not really hard..... Brig General of The Caldari State
Traitor and Ex Luminaire General of The Gallente Federation |
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Katja Faith
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.06.21 21:05:00 -
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idlemachinery wrote:they have cashed out even more billions in the LP store
RISE UP MY AMARR BROTHERS DRIVE BACK THE SLAVER SCUM
UNF UNF
Wut?!?!?! I don't even... |
Ezra Tair
Murientor Tribe Defiant Legacy
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Posted - 2012.06.21 21:06:00 -
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So explain to me how spending LP in a system makes it harder to retake? I understand upgrading system to make T5, but not how it prevented system from being captured? Or am I missing the point of the OP entirely? |
Julius Foederatus
Hyper-Nova
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Posted - 2012.06.21 21:11:00 -
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The LP investment isn't that big bolster. Just do the math. The funny thing is these guys could have earned even more if they'd just done missions instead, instead of wasting their time making a few LP gains on the margins with items that they had to buy and haul to wherever they thought they were being clever. Anyone who actually knows how to make money in FW could have made 4x the LP these guys did with a little dedication and some numbers.
The hilarious part is they think they pulled a fast one over everyone else when really they picked the slowest way of getting LP. |
Major Killz
State Protectorate Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.06.21 21:40:00 -
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Faction Warfare has been and sitll is being manipulated by many esoteric interest after inferno was deployed. The main difference between them has been wherewithal. |
Major Killz
State Protectorate Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.06.21 21:55:00 -
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Salicaz wrote:Just read the General Forums post and read Hans' posts. How biased can he get?
Calls the ammar whiners despite the truth coming out that the minmitar have been propped up by a massive loop hole exploit (prob not a real exploit but CCP derpness to push through a ****** feature onto a ****** feature). Yet he refuses to accept it. Refuses to acknowledge there has been a problem.
Hans, you're either useless as a CSM by not following through legitimate concerns (you're CSM persona is meant to be representing all militias) or you are only looking after your own militia's interests by not acknowledging vast descrepncies.
And hats off to the goons. And hats off to CCP...for a different reason.
Hans and all the other CSM are a joke. Thier input is a waste and subjective. No single pilot who plays the game should be close to the developers. All the input CCP needs can be done threw the forums.
Also, in Hans defense. There's no way he could know. Unless CCP informs him of wide spread manipulations. Which apparently they didn't. Often CCP doesn't even know for some time. So, yes! He's either clueless or complicate. Why would he want to rush hurting his wallet? Billions have made and are being made still.
The Amarr thing is just a side show that those who're just in it for the isk don't care about. |
Veshta Yoshida
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2012.06.21 22:05:00 -
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FW is fine. HTFU. Adapt or Die. Etc.
Hahahahaha. Gloriously done .. my earlier statement that it was over-incentivized turns out to have been a gross understatement .. hahahahahahaha.
CCP truly have no clue .. now they are putting wrecking balls to Eve's economy unintentionally .. *sigh* |
Zeerover
Wolfsbrigade Lost Obsession
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Posted - 2012.06.21 22:08:00 -
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Well goons aren't the only ones who've printed isk from the minmatar FW store over the last 3-4 weeks...
Though we didn't make a 12 figure haul like they did we did get a respectable haul from the imbalanced minmatar LP store offers.
Don't worry the assets will be put to good use shooting Matari soon enough, and yes we felt that utilizing this opportunity was of the highest priority, no matter how much people whined at us for doing our thing, it's not every month that isk printing opportunities like this present themselves. [img]http://i.imgur.com/Qrwa2.png[/img] |
Lipbite
Express Hauler
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Posted - 2012.06.21 23:01:00 -
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So every faction will be back to T1-T2 level in a week and there will be no more massive LP shop discounts? Meh |
Emaleena Rogers
No Point of Dispute Point of Dispute
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Posted - 2012.06.21 23:20:00 -
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Aliens. |
Valravin
Rifterlings Damu'Khonde
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Posted - 2012.06.21 23:31:00 -
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Julius Foederatus wrote:The LP investment isn't that big bolster. Just do the math. The funny thing is these guys could have earned even more if they'd just done missions instead, instead of wasting their time making a few LP gains on the margins with items that they had to buy and haul to wherever they thought they were being clever. Anyone who actually knows how to make money in FW could have made 4x the LP these guys did with a little dedication and some numbers.
The hilarious part is they think they pulled a fast one over everyone else when really they picked the slowest way of getting LP.
The way I understand it, they manipulated the price of an item nobody ever used to screw with the value Eve put on it when calculating LP payouts after the ship it was in was destroyed, then set about using alts in the various militia to blow up T1 industrials loaded with this useless, artificially inflated item and harvest truly vast amounts of LP from it. Far more than any mission runner has ever managed to stockpile.
They then used some of this LP to keep the Minnie militia at T4 as a balance between optimum deals for their LP and everyone else doing a run on the store if it was at T5, while converting the rest into ISK. Mention was made of converting ISK into LP at 81 per LP then back into ISK at 1500ish per LP and doing it on a scale of trillions of ISK. That is a lot more than any FW player that I've ever heard of.
The militia did plex those systems from the Amarr, but the cheap faction store and lots of upgraded systems currently seems to look like it came far more from this market manipulation than it did from militia pilots donating their LP. Now that they've stopped we can see whether it was all from this well pulled off scheme or if the militia really were doing it themselves all along. |
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Red Teufel
Blackened Skies THE UNTHINKABLES
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Posted - 2012.06.22 00:00:00 -
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funny how goons always make off with a **** load of isk from every exploit in game. then they make off with a **** load of isk. must be nice to have contacts inside ccp. |
Julius Foederatus
Hyper-Nova
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Posted - 2012.06.22 00:14:00 -
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People who ran missions before the introduction of the FW specific items made far more LP than goons did. Trust me, missions still account for more. |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.06.22 00:35:00 -
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Julius Foederatus wrote:People who ran missions before the introduction of the FW specific items made far more LP than goons did. Trust me, missions still account for more. "people who have been ratting since the game came out straight earned more money than this, silly goons, go rat" |
Dramaticus
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.06.22 00:37:00 -
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I just dont even know |
Commit Sudoku
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.06.22 00:42:00 -
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Red Teufel wrote:funny how goons always make off with a **** load of isk from every exploit in game. then they make off with a **** load of isk. must be nice to have contacts inside ccp. hes on to us guy on foreground: me posting guy in background: you |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3708
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Posted - 2012.06.22 00:58:00 -
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Julius Foederatus wrote:People who ran missions before the introduction of the FW specific items made far more LP than goons did. Trust me, missions still account for more. out of curiosity what would you peg this mission running at, per hour? best-case scenario |
Vordak Kallager
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
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Posted - 2012.06.22 01:23:00 -
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I for one welcome our new Goon overlords. Please don't leave us! Sa souvraya niende misain ye. |
Doctor Benway Kado
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.06.22 02:11:00 -
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Wait, hold on, mission running can net me 3 trillion isk in a few weeks? Why the hell didn't anyone tell me, I've been ratting anomalies like a chump! |
Halete
Echoes of Korgoth Initiative
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Posted - 2012.06.22 06:18:00 -
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Julius Foederatus wrote:People who ran missions before the introduction of the FW specific items made far more LP than goons did. Trust me, missions still account for more.
Might want to actually read about the exploit and understand what happened before talking about it, mate.
Though if you really are making trillions of ISK in a couple of weeks of missioning, power to you. Dirty heretical mud-child, reporting in. |
Werst Dendenahzees
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.06.22 06:23:00 -
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Julius Foederatus wrote:The LP investment isn't that big bolster. Just do the math. The funny thing is these guys could have earned even more if they'd just done missions instead, instead of wasting their time making a few LP gains on the margins with items that they had to buy and haul to wherever they thought they were being clever. Anyone who actually knows how to make money in FW could have made 4x the LP these guys did with a little dedication and some numbers.
The hilarious part is they think they pulled a fast one over everyone else when really they picked the slowest way of getting LP.
Hahahaha
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