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Freezehunter
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Posted - 2012.06.25 15:06:00 -
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The reason why RL females in this game get so much attention, free **** and money from all the dudes is because most of the dudes in Eve are virgin unemployed basement dwellers that have never / will never see(n) *****, so every time they interact with a female online it's like they discovered the meaning of life or something.
Pretty pathetic if you ask me, I know many women in this game but you won't ever see me give them special treatment just because they are women.
Hell, I make my girl change skills for me and mine and manage my market orders and contracts when I am gone from Eve for a long time.
****'s whack. Inappropriate signature, CCP Phantom. |
Xuse Senna
Meritoc Industries Inc. SRS.
192
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Posted - 2012.06.25 15:15:00 -
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Freezehunter wrote:The reason why RL females in this game get so much attention, free **** and money from all the dudes is because most of the dudes in Eve are virgin unemployed basement dwellers that have never / will never see(n) *****, so every time they interact with a female online it's like they discovered the meaning of life or something.
Pretty pathetic if you ask me, I know many women in this game but you won't ever see me give them special treatment just because they are women.
Hell, I make my girl change skills for me and mine and manage my market orders and contracts when I am gone from Eve for a long time.
****'s whack.
This guy is one of them ^^ D3 |
Ultim8Evil
Stargate SG-1 Fatal Ascension
15
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Posted - 2012.06.25 15:18:00 -
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I haven't read all 8 pages...
... Has anyone mentioned the photos of Mintchip yet? |
Freezehunter
187
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Posted - 2012.06.25 15:21:00 -
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Xuse Senna wrote:Freezehunter wrote:The reason why RL females in this game get so much attention, free **** and money from all the dudes is because most of the dudes in Eve are virgin unemployed basement dwellers that have never / will never see(n) *****, so every time they interact with a female online it's like they discovered the meaning of life or something.
Pretty pathetic if you ask me, I know many women in this game but you won't ever see me give them special treatment just because they are women.
Hell, I make my girl change skills for me and mine and manage my market orders and contracts when I am gone from Eve for a long time.
****'s whack. This guy is one of them ^^
What's the matter?
Don't like the fact that I don't give you resources and attention because you were born with a vagoo?
Or am I misunderstanding you? Inappropriate signature, CCP Phantom. |
Freezehunter
189
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Posted - 2012.06.25 15:46:00 -
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Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:Quartzlight Evenstar Icefluxor wrote:Do any REAL Men play EVE ? For what I see very few, specially in high sec
That is where you start talking out of your anus.
Most guys I know in high sec, including me, are married, have jobs and other **** to do, and they don't have enough time to move to 0.0 and **** around, so they stay in high sec and use the market and make stuff.
That's called being a real man. Inappropriate signature, CCP Phantom. |
Gibbo3771
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
126
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Posted - 2012.06.25 15:46:00 -
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giggity Everytime you dont like my comments/posts the terrorists win and your a disgrace to your country. |
Gibbo3771
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
126
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Posted - 2012.06.25 15:47:00 -
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Ultim8Evil wrote:I haven't read all 8 pages...
... Has anyone mentioned the photos of Mintchip yet?
Havent read all 8 either but I presume not, shes an attention ***** anyways and her **** are crappy Everytime you dont like my comments/posts the terrorists win and your a disgrace to your country. |
PinkKnife
The Scope Gallente Federation
142
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Posted - 2012.06.25 15:56:00 -
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Tyreul Severasse wrote:Xenuria wrote:Facepalm...
Pro Tip: My Gender is Female, you just defined what female is in the context of biological sex. I really don't think you should post in this thread anymore. So far you have done nothing but get egg on your face and offend people. I admit to great confusion and even incomprehension of transgenderism. (Is that a word? Probably not.) Choosing...
This is why you are confused. Trans people have no more choice than gays, lesbians, bisexuals, or anyone else in the GLBT spectrum.
Gibbo3771 wrote:Ultim8Evil wrote:I haven't read all 8 pages...
... Has anyone mentioned the photos of Mintchip yet? Havent read all 8 either but I presume not, shes an attention ***** anyways and her **** are crappy
Misogyny at its best, because any woman who puts herself out there to express an opinion is instantly labeled an attention *****. Heaven forbid a woman embrace and promote her sexuality to anywhere near the extent men do, lest they be branded whores and sluts and shamed into submission.
The abuse, small minded attacks, and hatred lobbied towards Mint are a disgrace to gamers everywhere. It comes from people who've never met her, or ever bothered to talk to her, yet because she puts herself out there, you feel it justifiable to attack her appearance, as if that was at all relevant to her opinions, or relevance.
Why not debate her opinions, if you have the testicular fortitude, rather than bash her appearance, or does trying to match a female intellect scare you? |
IGNATIUS HOOD
Zephyr Corp Black Thorne Alliance
321
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Posted - 2012.06.25 15:58:00 -
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Petrus Blackshell wrote:Vincent Athena wrote:My sister plays Eve. My fiancee plays Eve.
My wife does not play Eve. I think I'm okay with this however. 'perfer et obdura; dolor hic tibi proderit olim'
Be patient and tough; some day this pain will be useful to you.
~I fly spaceships~ |
Womyn Power
Love Squad Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
20
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Posted - 2012.06.25 16:35:00 -
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im a girl gamer xd
lets talk about our periods
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Ituhata
The Scope Gallente Federation
14
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Posted - 2012.06.25 16:37:00 -
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Womyn Power wrote:im a girl gamer xd
lets talk about ...
Yes, everyone will need sufficient eye protection when you unleash that much raw energy at once. |
Womyn Power
Love Squad Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
20
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Posted - 2012.06.25 16:38:00 -
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PinkKnife wrote: Misogyny at its best, because any woman who puts herself out there to express an opinion is instantly labeled an attention *****. Heaven forbid a woman embrace and promote her sexuality to anywhere near the extent men do, lest they be branded whores and sluts and shamed into submission.
The abuse, small minded attacks, and hatred lobbied towards Mint are a disgrace to gamers everywhere. It comes from people who've never met her, or ever bothered to talk to her, yet because she puts herself out there, you feel it justifiable to attack her appearance, as if that was at all relevant to her opinions, or relevance.
Why not debate her opinions, if you have the testicular fortitude, rather than bash her appearance, or does trying to match a female intellect scare you?
How often do 'guy gamers' make threads asking about how many other guy gamers there are?
Who gives a ****?
This thread is clear attention whoring and your crocodile tears fool no one. You're not a martyr for anything, neither is any other girl who acts like being a girl who plays a videogame makes her somehow better than the multitudes of other people who play the game. It would be best to remind yourself that if you want true equality, what you have between your legs doesn't make you special or somehow more desirable than anyone else who has the same hobby as you. Hence the thread is clearly attention whoring. |
Diva Ex Machina
Son's of The Hammer The Methodical Alliance
5
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Posted - 2012.06.25 16:44:00 -
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Gave you a like for this link. |
Tyreul Severasse
Picorus Wonder Kids
1
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Posted - 2012.06.25 16:58:00 -
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PinkKnife wrote:Tyreul Severasse wrote:Xenuria wrote:Facepalm...
Pro Tip: My Gender is Female, you just defined what female is in the context of biological sex. I really don't think you should post in this thread anymore. So far you have done nothing but get egg on your face and offend people. I admit to great confusion and even incomprehension of transgenderism. (Is that a word? Probably not.) Choosing... This is why you are confused. Trans people have no more choice than gays, lesbians, bisexuals, or anyone else in the GLBT spectrum.
Wait, what? Did I not just say "I admit to great confusion and even incomprehension . . .?" Your quote and retort serve what purpose?
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Tyreul Severasse
Picorus Wonder Kids
1
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Posted - 2012.06.25 17:03:00 -
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Womyn Power wrote:How often do 'guy gamers' make threads asking about how many other guy gamers there are?
For most games I'm sure the number is pretty close to zero because the majority of games cater to 'guy gamers.' |
PinkKnife
The Scope Gallente Federation
142
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Posted - 2012.06.25 17:11:00 -
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Womyn Power wrote: How often do 'guy gamers' make threads asking about how many other guy gamers there are?
Who gives a ****?
This thread is clear attention whoring and your crocodile tears fool no one. You're not a martyr for anything, neither is any other girl who acts like being a girl who plays a videogame makes her somehow better than the multitudes of other people who play the game. It would be best to remind yourself that if you want true equality, what you have between your legs doesn't make you special or somehow more desirable than anyone else who has the same hobby as you. Hence the thread is clearly attention whoring.
If the ratio of guys in EVE was 5% I bet you dollars to dough nuts there would be a guys only channel. The point isn't gender its minority marginalization. Any subculture naturally binds together to form a safe space where like minds can congregate and relax. You see this in real life as well as eve. This thread, is asking about that subculture.
I don't know what you're talking about in terms of martyrdom. No one in this thread expressed the idea that girls were some how better or more deserving than men are of any thing. The point I made, is that the bullshit thrown at Mint, is unjustified and childish misogynistic behavior lobbied out by little boys afraid of a woman not scared of them.
All of these "doesn't make you special" comments, just serve to show your underlying bias and opinions, that no one really asked for. No one said women are better, or more deserving of attention. You're attacking a position no one is holding.
Tyreul Severasse wrote: Wait, what? Did I not just say "I admit to great confusion and even incomprehension . . .?" Your quote and retort serve what purpose?
It serves to address your confusion. |
Womyn Power
Love Squad Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
21
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Posted - 2012.06.25 17:23:00 -
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PinkKnife wrote:
If the ratio of guys in EVE was 5% I bet you dollars to dough nuts there would be a guys only channel. The point isn't gender its minority marginalization. Any subculture naturally binds together to form a safe space where like minds can congregate and relax. You see this in real life as well as eve. This thread, is asking about that subculture.
I don't know what you're talking about in terms of martyrdom. No one in this thread expressed the idea that girls were some how better or more deserving than men are of any thing. The point I made, is that the bullshit thrown at Mint, is unjustified and childish misogynistic behavior lobbied out by little boys afraid of a woman not scared of them.
All of these "doesn't make you special" comments, just serve to show your underlying bias and opinions, that no one really asked for. No one said women are better, or more deserving of attention. You're attacking a position no one is holding.
To further illustrate this, for comparison, if a Latino person came on the boards, asking for a latino based corp or chat channel, would you call the person an attention *****? What if the person was Asian, or African. What if they were anti-establishment, or politically liberal? Do they then get the right to form a justifiable sub-culture without being attention whores, or is it just women.
And who asked for your gender in the first place?
How can you claim the high ground when, after presenting your own gender in terms of wanted to be congratulated or given attention for it, are ridiculed and made fun of? Why join a game where the majority basis is men and then come out with the fact that, of no relation to the game itself, you are in fact a female, and then say you demand no special respect for such a statement?
How is this in any way a logical thing to do? |
Laktos
Gunpoint Diplomacy
145
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Posted - 2012.06.25 17:26:00 -
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PinkKnife wrote:Womyn Power wrote: How often do 'guy gamers' make threads asking about how many other guy gamers there are?
Who gives a ****?
This thread is clear attention whoring and your crocodile tears fool no one. You're not a martyr for anything, neither is any other girl who acts like being a girl who plays a videogame makes her somehow better than the multitudes of other people who play the game. It would be best to remind yourself that if you want true equality, what you have between your legs doesn't make you special or somehow more desirable than anyone else who has the same hobby as you. Hence the thread is clearly attention whoring.
If the ratio of guys in EVE was 5% I bet you dollars to dough nuts there would be a guys only channel. The point isn't gender its minority marginalization. Any subculture naturally binds together to form a safe space where like minds can congregate and relax. You see this in real life as well as eve. This thread, is asking about that subculture. I don't know what you're talking about in terms of martyrdom. No one in this thread expressed the idea that girls were some how better or more deserving than men are of any thing. The point I made, is that the bullshit thrown at Mint, is unjustified and childish misogynistic behavior lobbied out by little boys afraid of a woman not scared of them. All of these "doesn't make you special" comments, just serve to show your underlying bias and opinions, that no one really asked for. No one said women are better, or more deserving of attention. You're attacking a position no one is holding. To further illustrate this, for comparison, if a Latino person came on the boards, asking for a latino based corp or chat channel, would you call the person an attention *****? What if the person was Asian, or African. What if they were anti-establishment, or politically liberal? Do they then get the right to form a justifiable sub-culture without being attention whores, or is it just women. Tyreul Severasse wrote: Wait, what? Did I not just say "I admit to great confusion and even incomprehension . . .?" Your quote and retort serve what purpose?
It serves to address your confusion.
Hey, leave his straw-woman arguments alone!
;)
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Tyreul Severasse
Picorus Wonder Kids
1
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Posted - 2012.06.25 17:28:00 -
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PinkKnife wrote:Tyreul Severasse wrote: Wait, what? Did I not just say "I admit to great confusion and even incomprehension . . .?" Your quote and retort serve what purpose?
It serves to address your confusion.
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Motamar Askold
Scorpius Federation Kleinrock Group
3
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Posted - 2012.06.25 17:29:00 -
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Eve online is full of female players, for some reason there way way tougher and mercy less then male players. WARNING a pirate is posting on the fourms. |
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Laktos
Gunpoint Diplomacy
145
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Posted - 2012.06.25 17:32:00 -
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Womyn Power wrote:
And who asked for your gender in the first place?
How can you claim the high ground when, after presenting your own gender in terms of wanted to be congratulated or given attention for it, are ridiculed and made fun of? Why join a game where the majority basis is men and then come out with the fact that, of no relation to the game itself, you are in fact a female, and then say you demand no special respect for such a statement?
How is this in any way a logical thing to do?
Hmm, sir, you seem to be mad at somebody for stating their gender.
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Womyn Power
Love Squad Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
21
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Posted - 2012.06.25 17:35:00 -
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Laktos wrote:Womyn Power wrote:
And who asked for your gender in the first place?
How can you claim the high ground when, after presenting your own gender in terms of wanted to be congratulated or given attention for it, are ridiculed and made fun of? Why join a game where the majority basis is men and then come out with the fact that, of no relation to the game itself, you are in fact a female, and then say you demand no special respect for such a statement?
How is this in any way a logical thing to do?
Hmm, sir, you seem to be mad at somebody for stating their gender. Womyn Power wrote:How is this in any way a logical thing to do?
How does her/his gender influence in any way shape or form how you play with them or what they do in eve online?
Are we not reflections of our characters when in game? Does having a ***** make me better at mining or pvp? Does having a vagina?
What is the reasoning for gender on the internet, and specifically gender inside of a video game where it simply does not matter?
When I ask these questions, the only way you can possibly come to a logical conclusion, is the innate desire for attention that a female has - I'm not faulting her on this - I'm simply confused why, when met with such hostility when bringing it up every time, women like this continue to use video games as an outlet beyond having fun. What's the point of getting attention from other people playing video games based entirely on the fact of your gender? |
Xenuria
Southern Cross Empire Flying Dangerous
552
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Posted - 2012.06.25 17:48:00 -
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This thread sure has rustled some jimmies. Xenuria Rising |
Tyreul Severasse
Picorus Wonder Kids
1
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Posted - 2012.06.25 17:48:00 -
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Womyn Power wrote:Laktos wrote:Womyn Power wrote:
And who asked for your gender in the first place?
How can you claim the high ground when, after presenting your own gender in terms of wanted to be congratulated or given attention for it, are ridiculed and made fun of? Why join a game where the majority basis is men and then come out with the fact that, of no relation to the game itself, you are in fact a female, and then say you demand no special respect for such a statement?
How is this in any way a logical thing to do?
Hmm, sir, you seem to be mad at somebody for stating their gender. Womyn Power wrote:How is this in any way a logical thing to do? How does her/his gender influence in any way shape or form how you play with them or what they do in eve online? Are we not reflections of our characters when in game? Does having a ***** make me better at mining or pvp? Does having a vagina? What is the reasoning for gender on the internet, and specifically gender inside of a video game where it simply does not matter? When I ask these questions, the only way you can possibly come to a logical conclusion, is the innate desire for attention that a female has - I'm not faulting her on this - I'm simply confused why, when met with such hostility when bringing it up every time, women like this continue to use video games as an outlet beyond having fun. What's the point of getting attention from other people playing video games based entirely on the fact of your gender?
Better wardrobe coordination? (*badum-tish!*) Asterixes and vaginas give no bonuses in this game, although a lot of Gallente ships give bonuses to hybrid turrets and drones. There is gender on the Internet because people use the Internet and most people have some gender identity. While I can't comment on any other instance of attention seeking you may be referencing, I'm not sure that gaining attention is the intention of this thread. I agree with PinkKnife's statement regarding minority marginalization. (Although I still fail to comprehend why she wanted an address for my confusion.)
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Sugar Von MurdererTits
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
41
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Posted - 2012.06.25 17:56:00 -
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PinkKnife wrote:
If the ratio of guys in EVE was 5% I bet you dollars to dough nuts there would be a guys only channel. The point isn't gender its minority marginalization. Any subculture naturally binds together to form a safe space where like minds can congregate and relax. You see this in real life as well as eve. This thread, is asking about that subculture.
The boyz tried to start an all male channel here previously: The Manly Men Gamers of Eve. Not sure how it worked out in the long run.
There are female attention whores in Eve for sure*. And they are irritating. But the boys who give them the fawning attention they crave are even more irritating and frankly, depressing.
* I saw a corp bio the other day that read 'The CEO is a chick in real life' |
Laktos
Gunpoint Diplomacy
146
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Posted - 2012.06.25 18:22:00 -
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Womyn Power wrote:How does her/his gender influence in any way shape or form how you play with them or what they do in eve online?
Are we not reflections of our characters when in game? Does having a ***** make me better at mining or pvp? Does having a vagina?
What is the reasoning for gender on the internet, and specifically gender inside of a video game where it simply does not matter?
When I ask these questions, the only way you can possibly come to a logical conclusion, is the innate desire for attention that a female has - I'm not faulting her on this - I'm simply confused why, when met with such hostility when bringing it up every time, women like this continue to use video games as an outlet beyond having fun. What's the point of getting attention from other people playing video games based entirely on the fact of your gender?
Gender is important. Gender is a key part of our identity. Humans perceive the world through the context of our personal identity. So to say "gender does not matter on the internet or inside of a video game" and therefore there is no reason to bring it up is wrong.
Gender is never a reason to discriminate. You are correct in that anybody, regardless of gender has the same ability to become good at mining or pvp etc. But it is not our characters that are good at mining or pvp, it is ourselves. When I am involved in a pvp fight, I am acting through my character, but the skills of tactical awareness, using the right modules in the right situations, reflexes with the mouse and keyboard etc. These are all my skills, not my characters.
And so because it is me (the human sat at the keyboard) playing this game, my personal identity effects in some way, everything I do.
This is why gender is very relevant even in a video game, and it's part of the reason humans naturally seek out others of their gender to socialise with. Because we feel most comfortable interacting with things that are familiar to us, like people who have similar identities that we can relate to.
There is no need for men to start forum threads searching for other men, because they are everywhere in this game. But for a woman playing this game, it is natural to seek out others of the same gender to socialise with, but it is very hard to find another woman in this game (as they make up only about 5% of the playerbase) and there is also the added difficulty of many men using female avatars, and some women using male avatars, so finding other women visually is impossible.
And thus, she makes a forum thread.
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Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
322
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Posted - 2012.06.25 18:58:00 -
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Diva Ex Machina wrote:Gave you a like for this link.
After thinking a little bit about this stuff, yep, there's no women on the internet
brb |
Anndy
The Evocati
2
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Posted - 2012.06.25 19:26:00 -
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very few eve females will actually admit it outside their close circle of friends, some women will use their gender to get desperate virgins to give them free stuff, men will also pretend to be female for the same reason
time and time again if theres a girl talking on vent/ts/whatever idiots will most always start talking crap asking for pics and all that, usually gets the the point they get podded for their lack of maturity
eve actually does have a pretty good female population they just dont run around telling everyone unless they want to be spammed by idiots |
Gibbo3771
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
126
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Posted - 2012.06.25 19:27:00 -
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PinkKnife wrote:Tyreul Severasse wrote:Xenuria wrote:Facepalm...
Pro Tip: My Gender is Female, you just defined what female is in the context of biological sex. I really don't think you should post in this thread anymore. So far you have done nothing but get egg on your face and offend people. I admit to great confusion and even incomprehension of transgenderism. (Is that a word? Probably not.) Choosing... This is why you are confused. Trans people have no more choice than gays, lesbians, bisexuals, or anyone else in the GLBT spectrum. Gibbo3771 wrote:Ultim8Evil wrote:I haven't read all 8 pages...
... Has anyone mentioned the photos of Mintchip yet? Havent read all 8 either but I presume not, shes an attention ***** anyways and her **** are crappy Misogyny at its best, because any woman who puts herself out there to express an opinion is instantly labeled an attention *****. Heaven forbid a woman embrace and promote her sexuality to anywhere near the extent men do, lest they be branded whores and sluts and shamed into submission. The abuse, small minded attacks, and hatred lobbied towards Mint are a disgrace to gamers everywhere. It comes from people who've never met her, or ever bothered to talk to her, yet because she puts herself out there, you feel it justifiable to attack her appearance, as if that was at all relevant to her opinions, or relevance. Why not debate her opinions, if you have the testicular fortitude, rather than bash her appearance, or does trying to match a female intellect scare you?
Thats right, say words.
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Mintchip
Catocalypse Meow ZOMBIE KITTY FORCE
77
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Posted - 2012.06.25 19:33:00 -
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Being a female in this game is not an easy en devour. On one hand, you do feel lonely because of your gender, and it's hard to communicate or make friends without people figuring it out that you're female.
One thing I hate, is the feeling that women should hide their gender because of the attention it gives them. That's ridiculous - if people want to fawn over women, or give them things or act a fool in that regard - why is the woman always blamed and berated? In some cases, yes, someone may be using that to their advantage but in this day and age it is almost just the assumption. Even other females will make snide catty remarks at another female. Which is ridiculous.
If a girl wants to come on here and ask for other females - so be it. Who cares. There's tons of women who play eve and probably more hiding because of the misogynistic bullshit and hate that we get. Just for being female.
Also, there's all this talk about how if a women mentions her gender she automatically must think she's better than other people. What the **** weird paranoid conclusion is that? Personally I have never EVER thought I was a better player or more important than ANYONE in eve because of my gender. In fact, I'm embarrassed that people even think or assume that about anyone.
I don't think anyone should have to hide who they are, regardless of being gay, trans, female, male or extremely unintelligent - and obviously some people in eve agree with me in one aspect.
"Attention *****" is an overused statement that almost always is being misused. Anyone posting a thread asking ANY QUESTION, is wanting attention to their question. Anyone who makes content regarding eve, WANTS THAT CONTENT TO BE SEEN. Attention whores, are people who will stop at nothing for you to pay attention to them regardless of what they are doing. Negative or positive. There are many more MALES in eve online who will stop at absolutely nothing for even a moment of attention from anyone. Far much less than myself or other females that get talked **** about on a daily/weekly basis.
Get over yourself - and grow up. This misogynistic and hate behavior outside of the game, or even in game for that matter, should not be tolerated.
xoxo Mint. Check out my Youtube Channel Mintchiplol Join My ingame Channel: -áMintchip's Channel
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