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Michael Turate
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Posted - 2010.01.14 12:31:00 -
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Major Trant of Blue Republic took a 20 man red and blue RVB purple fleet down to sunny Amamake last night. Usual packdrill for RVB, that means frigs, dessies and cruisers fit cheaply and ready for a suicide op! As usual we had plenty of new players with us so the first twenty minutes or so was a bit of a tutorial about overview settings and general low sec survival advice i.e. you are going to die but this is how you get your pod out.
We always get a fight when we go down there and it was no surprise when our scouts reported a hyperion in the top belt which was flashing warmly and ready to roast. We all jumped in but the hyp extracted himself and we were left dangling for a few seconds until two hurricanes jumped in. We engaged and killed the first hurricane and had the second one into very low armor, I popped at this point but it seems like the second hurricane managed to get away, back to tackle training I guess! When the rest of the other fleet jumped in we disengaged and a fair few people survived to fight another day.
When I looked at the battle report
http://redfed.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=5546761
I happened to glance at the stats of the pilot we killed; they were pretty awesome to say the least, especially when some of his fits are real cheap with T1 guns!!
Anyway, according to this
http://www.eve-kill.net/?a=top20&type=pilot
HeÆs currently the top boy on the block. Thanks for a fun fight guys, hope to lock swords with you all again next time we are in the neighborhood.
Sorry I fail at links.
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Intigo
Amarr Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2010.01.14 12:42:00 -
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Edited by: Intigo on 14/01/2010 12:44:33 So you blobbed some guy in a SPR Hurricane and felt it was thread-worthy? -_-'
EVE's top pilot, indeed. ___________________
HELLO! My name is Inigo Mont...oh f' it. |
The Yzzerman
Royal Order of Security Specialists
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Posted - 2010.01.14 12:53:00 -
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I think you got the wrong guy
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Jones Bones
Final Agony
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Posted - 2010.01.14 12:55:00 -
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He's the number 1 killer according to eve-kill.net, this month. Not EVE's "top pilot". Even he would tell you that. Please re-size your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels with a maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Zymurgist |
Michael Turate
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Posted - 2010.01.14 13:37:00 -
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Edited by: Michael Turate on 14/01/2010 13:37:57 Calm down girls, just a bit of fun you understand, but I have edited for accuracy. And as to being thread worthy, I think it is. In the current climate of suicide ganking (which I wholeheartedly support), there has been rafts of threads from players complaining about not being able to stand up seasoned PVP gangs and endless request for CCP to 'fix it'.
RVB shows that even a gang of new PVP'ers in T1 equipment can go toe to toe with more seasoned, experienced and aggressive players. You are not going to 'win' but you may do them some damage that will persuade them to go elsewhere and look for a easier target. Our accomplishments are small when viewed in context with the rest of the Eve universe but we do demonstrate that any player, regardless of skill, isk, equipment and experience can make a difference if he works with friends.
So much of Eve may appear to be closed to new players when they first get into the game but this is far from the case, you just need the confidence to take the first step. We hope that RVB is that 'first step' for many new players.
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Tama Kulai
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Posted - 2010.01.14 18:15:00 -
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Originally by: Michael Turate Edited by: Michael Turate on 14/01/2010 13:37:57 Calm down girls, just a bit of fun you understand, but I have edited for accuracy. And as to being thread worthy, I think it is. In the current climate of suicide ganking (which I wholeheartedly support), there has been rafts of threads from players complaining about not being able to stand up seasoned PVP gangs and endless request for CCP to 'fix it'.
RVB shows that even a gang of new PVP'ers in T1 equipment can go toe to toe with more seasoned, experienced and aggressive players. You are not going to 'win' but you may do them some damage that will persuade them to go elsewhere and look for a easier target. Our accomplishments are small when viewed in context with the rest of the Eve universe but we do demonstrate that any player, regardless of skill, isk, equipment and experience can make a difference if he works with friends.
So much of Eve may appear to be closed to new players when they first get into the game but this is far from the case, you just need the confidence to take the first step. We hope that RVB is that 'first step' for many new players.
I heartily agree. This makes much better reading than endless threads entitled ''NEED DRAKE FITTING FOR LVL3'S''. Boo-hoo to the whines above.
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Pel Ukken
Vitharr's Vengeance
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Posted - 2010.01.15 05:43:00 -
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Edited by: Pel Ukken on 15/01/2010 05:43:19 anyone else getting tired of all these OMGRVBISAWESOME threads??
so you fly t1 gangs in highsec and don't pod each other.
\o/
and those final agony guys, militia fights them every day.
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Lexa Hellfury
Incura
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Posted - 2010.01.15 07:37:00 -
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Originally by: Michael Turate players complaining about not being able to stand up seasoned PVP gangs
It's still 14 v 1 (shitfit), no matter how you want to try to spin it. --------------------------------------------------------------------
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Salen Kane
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.01.15 10:12:00 -
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Originally by: Michael Turate Our accomplishments are small when viewed in context with the rest of the Eve universe but we do demonstrate that any player, regardless of skill, isk, equipment and experience can make a difference if he works with friends.
A tactic sometimes known as zerging. Do not try to pwn with the ship. You are only pwning yourself. Instead, realise that there is no ship, there is only you, pwning. |
Gurgeh Murat
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Posted - 2010.01.15 11:11:00 -
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Originally by: Lexa Hellfury
It's still 14 v 1 (shitfit), no matter how you want to try to spin it.
Indeed, quite disgraceful behaviour, how about taking on a real challenge and sending a few BS' or a handful of cruisers up against a mining ship......
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chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.01.15 11:36:00 -
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Edited by: chatgris on 15/01/2010 11:36:18
Originally by: Pel Ukken Edited by: Pel Ukken on 15/01/2010 05:43:19 anyone else getting tired of all these OMGRVBISAWESOME threads??
Nowhere near as tired as all the OMG-WE-CAN-KEEL-HULKS (expanded to impact on economy, psychology, server downtime, if my grandma will spread the butter on the dark or light side depending on the number of kills in one pre-concord session) threads.
At least the RVB guys (usually) shoot stuff that has the ability to shoot back :)
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Sub Prime
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Posted - 2010.01.15 12:38:00 -
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Edited by: Sub Prime on 15/01/2010 12:39:35 Out of interest, AshenShugar01's ship sustained 70% of its damage from a Minmatar Sentry Gun - I thought you fought at the top belt? Hmm, strange as it looks like a belt seeing as there is an angel NPC in the killmail too.
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Rotundone
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Posted - 2010.01.15 14:23:00 -
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There is a strong anti-RVB vibe in this thread. Why do you guys feel so threatened by hi-sec PvPers that confine themselves to 3 systems for the most part? When they do go out, the fleets should be easily defeated by "real" PvPers.
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Michael Turate
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Posted - 2010.01.15 14:27:00 -
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Re: the sentry gun damage, we suspect that he had been tanking sentry guns for his gang shortly before he warped to the belt and we engaged him. At some point he must have repped as he was in full shield and armor when we attacked but the sentry damage from earlier remained on the kill mail.
To those who are not enjoying RVB related posts, please note, I have included the letters RVB in the title. If you don't enjoy reading about the adventures of RVB then I would strongly encourage you not to click on things that say 'RVB is great' or similar. That way you won't be so grumpy when you get to your first class at school.
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Andreus LeHane
Gallente Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2010.01.16 00:09:00 -
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Originally by: Rotundone There is a strong anti-RVB vibe in this thread. Why do you guys feel so threatened by hi-sec PvPers that confine themselves to 3 systems for the most part? When they do go out, the fleets should be easily defeated by "real" PvPers.
I'd be interested in knowing this. Perhaps the larger alliances feel threatened by the fact that RVB are having fun? -----
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Liang Nuren
The Lollypop Factory
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Posted - 2010.01.16 00:40:00 -
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Originally by: Rotundone There is a strong anti-RVB vibe in this thread. Why do you guys feel so threatened by hi-sec PvPers that confine themselves to 3 systems for the most part?
Well, I think it's mostly because RVB (players) are trying very hard to portray themselves as being of equal skill and having way more fun than the lowsec/0.0 PVPers. There's tons of chest beating, and then when someone says something like "Erm, a billion ISK battle is like 3 battleships...", the RVB players start flaming. Like, see below, where the guy says something about being grumpy at first class.
I've participated in Highsec PVP (some), Lowsec PVP (lots), 0.0 PVP (medium amount), and WH PVP (some)... and to tell the truth they all have very different skill sets. And to further reiterate, RVB does trivialize many of the skills required for PVP in other arenas. Most of the time, for example, half of your "PVP" is in actually getting an engagement. Not so true in RVB.
Anyway, I'm not trying to rain on your parade or say RVB sucks or anything. I'm just trying to say that maybe RVB could tone down the chest beating and hollering about how awesome they are. We all like to hear about "noobs" having fun, and that's why we click on these threads. :)
-Liang -- Liang Nuren - Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire www.kwikdeath.org |
Michael Turate
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Posted - 2010.01.16 15:44:00 -
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I would have thought the big alliances would generally be pleased with what we are doing. As of today we have a combined membership of just over 1000 players. These players, mostly new or new to PVP, are learning the necessary basic PVP skillset to survive in the Eve universe. In time, they will leave RVB and seek out a corporation or alliance to further their learning and adventure. They may come to your corporation, in which case they will come with the basics already loaded and ready for you to fine tune. They won't be uber or elite PVP'ers, RVB doesn't claim to deliver this, but the odds are they will be a better calibre of recruit than you usually get.
If they don't come to you then they will go to your enemies, in turn swelling th number of PVP'ers in the Eve universe. In time, you may not have to spend so long looking for a fight. More PVP'ers in Eve has to be a good thing right, 0.0 is pretty empty most of the time. Wouldn't you like some more guys to shoot at?
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Elsa Nietzsche
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Posted - 2010.01.16 16:36:00 -
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I personally like reading the exploits of RVB. As PVEr, it's nice to know that PVP is available to me through a light hearted and friendly atmosphere. While I know some people post that they tire of reading these threads, my suggestion is to just stop reading them. I haven't bookmarked any of the RVB info pages and so having these threads readily available makes them easy to find and easier to find the info on RVB. As the OP said, many of the members were new people, and new people more than likely don't know the ends and outs of the eve information universe and would have a much harder time finding out about RVB without these threads.
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Xikorita
Mob Thought Phalanx Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.16 16:53:00 -
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Well they didn't engage, the 2 hurricanes did. Keep doing that kind of thing and they will learn mate ;D
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Bluemalice
Gallente Blue Republic
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Posted - 2010.01.16 18:13:00 -
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Edited by: Bluemalice on 16/01/2010 18:15:14 In response to Intigo, Pel Ukken and Liang,
I think it's silly to even whine or complain at all about basically anything that someone posts on a forum. You do realize it's an internet forum? It's a place for people to post whatever they want within the guidelines. The whole reason there is a subject line is so that at a glance, you can tell if you're interested or not. The simple fact that you read the post and then whined about it tells me you were at least interested in it enough to read it only to turn around and contradict yourself by stating you're tired of these kinds of posts from RVB. Quite ridiculous really. Get a job maybe?
I also saw no chest beating of any kind. Seemed like the guy is just excited about a little pvp action (who cares what "kind" of pvp it is) and decided to post about it in an open forum. Nothing wrong with that. "Anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities has the power to make you commit injustices." -Voltaire- |
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Lilith Velkor
Minmatar Final Agony
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Posted - 2010.01.16 18:27:00 -
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Edited by: Lilith Velkor on 16/01/2010 18:27:25
Originally by: Liang Nuren
Well, I think it's mostly because RVB (players) are trying very hard to portray themselves as being of equal skill and having way more fun than the lowsec/0.0 PVPers.
Actually, they tend to engage even if they dont have the clear advantage, unlike we are used to from FW.
Might not have anything to do with skill, but its a good attitude to not take 3 hours taking x's until you outnumber the enemy 3:1 or worse.
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Beastykins
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Posted - 2010.01.16 20:38:00 -
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Originally by: Intigo Edited by: Intigo on 14/01/2010 12:44:33 So you blobbed some guy in a SPR Hurricane and felt it was thread-worthy? -_-'
EVE's top pilot, indeed.
If you personally don't find this to be an interesting subject for a post, then why don't you just not read it instead of having a pathetic little whine about it. Some people might not be quite so narrow minded and actually enjoy reading about the exploits of people, but then again maybe it's just because Tri are getting moody because of the spanking they've been getting in PB. In future, if you're not interested in a post, just move on to another instead of polluting the thread with your pointless opinions on it's merits.
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Intigo
Amarr Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2010.01.17 10:51:00 -
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http://genos.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=5573191
EVE's top pilot shows us how to fly Taranis! Watch and learn, my friends! ___________________
HELLO! My name is Inigo Mont...oh f' it. |
Mikelangelo
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.01.17 16:11:00 -
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Originally by: Pel Ukken Edited by: Pel Ukken on 15/01/2010 05:43:19 anyone else getting tired of all these OMGRVBISAWESOME threads??
so you fly t1 gangs in highsec and don't pod each other.
\o/
and those final agony guys, militia fights them every day.
Aw come on. Let the cheap PvP brigade have their "I R sOO awesum posts" It's all in the name of fun.
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Liang Nuren
The Lollypop Factory
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Posted - 2010.01.17 19:47:00 -
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Edited by: Liang Nuren on 17/01/2010 19:51:29
Originally by: Bluemalice
I think it's silly to even whine or complain at all about basically anything that someone posts on a forum. You do realize it's an internet forum? It's a place for people to post whatever they want within the guidelines. The whole reason there is a subject line is so that at a glance, you can tell if you're interested or not. The simple fact that you read the post and then whined about it tells me you were at least interested in it enough to read it only to turn around and contradict yourself by stating you're tired of these kinds of posts from RVB.
Erm. Do you even ****ing know how to read m8? I said I'm totally thrilled to hear about "noobs" having fun PVP'ing, even if the way they go about it trivializes the hunt.
Quote: Quite ridiculous really. Get a job maybe?
It couldn't possibly be this kind of **** that makes people think "OMG, maybe RVB is ****ing stupid afterall"
-Liang
Originally by: Lilith Velkor Actually, they tend to engage even if they dont have the clear advantage, unlike we are used to from FW.
Might not have anything to do with skill, but its a good attitude to not take 3 hours taking x's until you outnumber the enemy 3:1 or worse.
Aye, I know. I really enjoy reading about "noobs" having a lot of fun in Eve - and I totally agree that its a good attitude to have (though admittedly it might come from the fact that what they fly is so ****ing cheap to start with....).
But, the point of my post was to point out how RVB will make a post saying something like "We killed the top PVPer in the game, look how uber we are!" or "RVB in a billion ISK battle, now we're in the bigtimes, we don't fly **** fit T1 crap anymore!" and such. And then someone says "Erm, the guy was failfit...." or "A 1B ISK battle is like losing 3-4 battleships..." or something and the flaming starts.
Let's be clear: Posting about how awesome your corp is is chest beating, and telling people to get a job and not to be grumpy at first period is flaming. And you can't go to a RVB thread without finding someone doing both of those. Even to congratulate them on having a good fight.
-Liang -- Liang Nuren - Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire www.kwikdeath.org |
Pel Ukken
Vitharr's Vengeance
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Posted - 2010.01.17 19:52:00 -
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Edited by: Pel Ukken on 17/01/2010 19:56:48 i've killed him too :)
http://www.minmatar-militia.org/kb/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=100233
Originally by: Lilith Velkor Edited by: Lilith Velkor on 16/01/2010 18:27:25 Actually, they tend to engage even if they dont have the clear advantage, unlike we are used to from FW.
Might not have anything to do with skill, but its a good attitude to not take 3 hours taking x's until you outnumber the enemy 3:1 or worse.
oh stop complaining. you wouldn't be in amamake if we didn't offer you regular fights day in and day out. i've been titan bridge by you guys on the kourm-auga gate, had a battleship gang have carriers land on them and have blobbed up against you guys alot too.
it's all in the name of fun
see you in top belt
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Stoned Runner
Advocates of Sin
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Posted - 2010.01.18 16:21:00 -
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Sunny Amamake is back in business, next time please inform us of your visit with the appropriate form so that we can ship down to frigates/cruisers, after all that's what the cool kids do nowadays to have fun, righto ?
The adrenaline starts pumping hard when what you're about to lose will hurt your wallet a bit or more, just saying ... Less Is More |
Ralnik
Mutineers
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Posted - 2010.01.18 16:38:00 -
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Edited by: Ralnik on 18/01/2010 16:43:43
Originally by: Lilith Velkor Edited by: Lilith Velkor on 16/01/2010 18:27:25
Originally by: Liang Nuren
Well, I think it's mostly because RVB (players) are trying very hard to portray themselves as being of equal skill and having way more fun than the lowsec/0.0 PVPers.
Actually, they tend to engage even if they dont have the clear advantage, unlike we are used to from FW.
Might not have anything to do with skill, but its a good attitude to not take 3 hours taking x's until you outnumber the enemy 3:1 or worse.
Oh quit crying.. I watched you guys gank a few Amarr FW guys in a mission last night. You guys must of had 15 assault ships ganking 3 targets.
You guys gank and blob targets all day and night yet you never see a problem with it, but soon as someone blobs and ganks you, you have to complain about it.
You guys have Blued everything in the area that you could possible blue, so lets get real you are as big of a blob as any Militia gang.
Final Agony 111 pilots (was 80 something last week.. likely be 200 next week) Wolfy 44 pilots Advocate of Sin 41 pilots
..and who knows what other corps, because I've seen guys from Hydra Reloaded and various other corps in your gangs. The Minmatar Militia averages about 120 to 150 players online at any given time, with maybe 40 to 60 spread out across the local FW systems at any given time.
You guys are just as big of a blob as any Militia gang, so quit the crying. It makes respectable pirates look bad.
I've watched your guys run off your little gate camps at the drop of a hat, in fact the only times I've seen you fight with out the advantage is when one of you gets caught. Meaning you have nothing to really whine about because you are just as bad.
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Kahega Amielden
Minmatar Undivided
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Posted - 2010.01.18 21:18:00 -
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Quote: There is a strong anti-RVB vibe in this thread. Why do you guys feel so threatened by hi-sec PvPers that confine themselves to 3 systems for the most part? When they do go out, the fleets should be easily defeated by "real" PvPers.
They're not "Threatened" ,they're just tired of constant, useless RVB threads. In this case, we have a new RVB thread because a fleet blobbed a solo hurricane. Whoopdeedoo.
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Comboduck
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Posted - 2010.01.19 00:57:00 -
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Originally by: Lexa Hellfury
Originally by: Michael Turate players complaining about not being able to stand up seasoned PVP gangs
It's still 14 v 1 (shitfit), no matter how you want to try to spin it.
Except for the fact that the had logistics, ewar, battleships and other support. Our numbers we're fairly equal but we still managed to win in ISK efficiency, I would not say that this is a OMGWTFHAX accomplishment, but I think that we did well.
What it WAS NOT IN ANY WAY, was a 14v1 battle. Fleet vs fleet is what it was
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