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Omal Omal
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Posted - 2010.01.19 00:22:00 -
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Edited by: Omal Omal on 19/01/2010 00:23:05 (Posting on my ALT)
This is absolutely true and my corp has been begging me to write about it so I figured I'd put it here. I'm no english major and I suck at telling stories... so deal with it.
First off, I am new to EVE. My main is now two months old and I pay for two accounts now with GTC's which I pay ISK for. I bought my second account when Steam offered the $5 special.
I fly Gallente, so this is how I did it in Gallente's ships and I can't offer advice or how to do it in other's because I still don't know enough about the other races. I would imagine that from what I hear about the strengths and weaknesses of the other race's ships, that this would be completely feasible, if not easier with other races (see: Caldari Drake).
Week 1/2.
I got enough skills to where I could salvage, fly a destroyer and equip T2 cargo expanders and apped to a 0.0 corp who ran level 4 missions and explored complexes. The deal was that whatever I salvaged, I split with everyone in the fleet. I did this for my entire first week and well into my 2nd. During this time I got enough skills to get myself into a cruiser and did learning skills.
My corp did all the hauling of the salvage for me and I didn't even know the worth of the things I was picking up at this time. I was just excited to be in 0.0 space and om nom nom all the wrecks that these guys in super battle ships were blowing up. These guys were happy they didn't have to salvage.
On my first day of doing this, I made about 10 mil in bounty's. I didn't make much because I was normally a room behind my corp mates. However, the next day after the contracted salvage (oh, lol... I had to learn how to use a contract this night) to one of my corp officers, he took it to High sec and sold it all of depositing 65 million in my Wallet (GASP!!!). I'm hooked....
Week 2/3.
More learning skills, but now can fly a Vexor. Vexors are great drone boats for a noob as I was... am. They're also awesome ratting ships. I lost a couple of these this week, luckly they're cheap and awesome to learn with. I listened to my corp mates, the rookie help channel and asked loads of questions. This week was spent learning how to chain belts and rat effectively against damage types. If you can learn anything early on, it's how damage types and resistances to those work. You may not be a powerhouse in terms of DPS and PvP, however, you will be able to indefinitely tank a battleship in a cruiser if you understand the guys you're going against. I asked in Rookie Help what kind of pirates do what type of damage and what they are weak against. The ISD provided me with a link to a very nice chart.
Now, I lost a few of these ships because, well.. 1. I sucked.. and 2. I was in low sec space, sucking, when assault ships would tear me up. I was a victim of many kill mails. Luckily the rats I was killing were high bounty's for my level of skills... 500k > 1+ mil. I did this on the early hours of the evening while I'd go out plexing with my corp mates at night and salvage some more for them.
(I'm now around 100+ mil in my wallet)
Week 3
I trained up more learning skills and continued with belt ratting. At this point I'm almost in a Battlecruiser and completely self sufficient. This week was pretty lackluster and I basically continued what I did the previous week as I waited for skills to complete.
By the end of this week, I'm looking at around 300 mil and almost ready to buy a Plex, however, I read the noobguide and it said not to fly anything you couldn't afford. I was about to get into battle cruisers and got a tip to use faction fittings in order to skip some training. These mods are very expensive.
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Omal Omal
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Posted - 2010.01.19 00:23:00 -
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Edited by: Omal Omal on 19/01/2010 00:23:42
Week 4/5 > trial time ran out...
I'm now in a battle cruiser... funny story. I got owned in my first Brutix belt ratting with heat sinks on. Anyone in my corp reading this is most likely snickering at me. I guess that's one of those mistakes you make once :p, especially considering the flack I got from my alliance members. They were rather upset I wasn't in vent so they could hear my tears as I lost my first Brutix. They quickly showed me how to use a kill mail, then proceeded to bash me relentlessly for equipping heat sinks on a gun boat.
I spent my entire fourth week training for drones. This was also around the time when Dominion was launched and the tutorials were upgraded. I took the time to roll an alt account and do some of the new tutorials and learned all about exploration. This taught me what anomolies are and how to find them. I quickly referred back to the guide which the ISD gave me explaining the rat damage types and got myself into a myrmadon.
I sat in 0.0 space, in a Myrmadon ratting the high end anomolys. I could successfully tank 4 battleships (Cap stable) as well as a few frigs/cruisers. Each anomoly would yield roughly 20-30 mil in bountys and woudld take me about 3-4 hours to complete depending on how many waves there were. On ones which had 7+, it would take me roughly 4 hours, anything less I could mop up pretty quickly while my drones did all my damage for me. If any had spawns of 5 or more battleships, I'd need to speed kite and hit them with long range weapons slowly nibbling away at them.
I did this for the remainder of my trial time as well as my first 30 days. I got a couple faction spawns which gave me some great ISK. Much of my final 700 mil was spent doing anomolies. I would do plexes with my corp mates and did a couple wormholes as well.
Well, that's my story... By the end of my trial I had made and spent well over a Billion ISK. I purchased a 60day GTC for 510 Mil off the forurms and had a fully faction fitted Myrmadon worth well over 200 mil ISK.
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lego brick
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Posted - 2010.01.19 00:38:00 -
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cookie for you......... seriously though well done, I like your positive spirit and the fact you have had fun. You have challenged yourself and reached a goal set in your own mind. I'm guessing it was a billion isk? That's the joy of eve welcome my brother from another mother :)
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Omal Omal
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Posted - 2010.01.19 00:41:00 -
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Originally by: lego brick cookie for you......... seriously though well done, I like your positive spirit and the fact you have had fun. You have challenged yourself and reached a goal set in your own mind. I'm guessing it was a billion isk? That's the joy of eve welcome my brother from another mother :)
Actually, my initial goal was just to purchase a Plex before the time ran out.
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Dr Chicago
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Posted - 2010.01.19 00:42:00 -
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Good story, I believe its possible, thats how I started...Nice to hear a positive angel rather then the normal "Eve ruined my life" thread... Stay tuned the Sociopath's will be posting shortly how your making the whole thing up and trolling.
Cheers DC
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WarlockX
Amarr Free Trade Corp
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Posted - 2010.01.19 00:47:00 -
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Gratz.. There's alot of players that start this game and make close to nothing in the first month you should be very proud of yourself! You also learned that losing ships is no big deal which is also another very hard thing for new players to learn.
*tear* ----------------------------------------------- Free Trade Corp - Flash page
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Loki Farseer
F9X Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.01.19 06:36:00 -
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How to make a Bil in 1 day with no skills....
1. Sit at Jita 4-4 in a nub ship... or if you want to spend a little time train up a Badger.
2. Ninja Loot all the people that go pop outside 4-4.
3. Make a bil.
Since I kill alot of people at 4-4 I can tell you... an enormous amount of Faction/Deadspace/Officer mods etc drops there. Most of which I get non of since people have already figured out how to make bank
Easy and much quicker.
I do applaud your work ethic.
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Magnus Orin
Minmatar United Systems Navy Zenith Affinity
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Posted - 2010.01.19 06:47:00 -
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Eve needs more players like the OP.
ALl the whiners can GBTW
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Savatar Mei
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Posted - 2010.01.19 07:02:00 -
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how much time do u think u spent playing in that first month?
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Xyla Kador
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Posted - 2010.01.19 07:22:00 -
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very much kudos
ur the type we need in EVE haha
i have a friend that after helping him out he started WHing with other friends and hes been here since June or so and hasnt paid a single RL cent, been self sustaining since trial
(tho i guess it helped that he had a degree in economy and was making bank on markets lol)
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Peryner
University of Caille
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Posted - 2010.01.19 07:22:00 -
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Originally by: Savatar Mei how much time do u think u spent playing in that first month?
I think it's more gear towards the point of players that say you can't get anywhere in eve until you wait 6 months plus, because you can never catch up with older players.
Glad the op figured out that was bull****.
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Bibosikus
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Posted - 2010.01.19 07:26:00 -
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Great story. And told pretty well mate o7 !
Before I joined a 0.0 corp I was mostly a hisec dual-boxing missioner, made about 40 mill an hour and paid my subscriptions every month. In 0.0 I started using a passive shield Ishtar in anomalies, and ratted in a sniper-fit. I made more isk in the first week than the previous month in hisec. Then I found my first officer spawn in a belt, and sold a single mod (Cormack's Modified Tracking computer) to some guy in Jita for 550 mill. Many readers out there will fondly remember their first officer spawn I'm sure \0/
After 2 months I was able to purchase 12 30-day GTC's to keep my chars training while I went on sabbatical to New Zealand (I'm coming back in a week). All that isk came from 0.0 anomalies and ratting.
Many have said it before, and many will again: 0.0 is the only place in Eve to make consistently large wadges of cash. And get involved in PvP battles with ships that make your eyes bleed.
Gotta love the game
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Omal Omal
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Posted - 2010.01.19 07:57:00 -
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Originally by: Savatar Mei how much time do u think u spent playing in that first month?
quite a bit. 5-6 hours an evening.
Originally by: Peryner
I think it's more gear towards the point of players that say you can't get anywhere in eve until you wait 6 months plus, because you can never catch up with older players.
Glad the op figured out that was bull****.
Yeah, I made a name for myself in local... so many people from the larger alliances where I regularly rat would ask who's alt I was. They were pretty impressed to see a 1 month old toon in a myrm ratting up anomalies.
Originally by: Bibosikus Great story. And told pretty well mate o7 !
Before I joined a 0.0 corp I was mostly a hisec dual-boxing missioner, made about 40 mill an hour and paid my subscriptions every month. In 0.0 I started using a passive shield Ishtar in anomalies, and ratted in a sniper-fit. I made more isk in the first week than the previous month in hisec. Then I found my first officer spawn in a belt, and sold a single mod (Cormack's Modified Tracking computer) to some guy in Jita for 550 mill. Many readers out there will fondly remember their first officer spawn I'm sure \0/
After 2 months I was able to purchase 12 30-day GTC's to keep my chars training while I went on sabbatical to New Zealand (I'm coming back in a week). All that isk came from 0.0 anomalies and ratting.
Many have said it before, and many will again: 0.0 is the only place in Eve to make consistently large wadges of cash. And get involved in PvP battles with ships that make your eyes bleed.
Gotta love the game
You were able to get into an Ishtar in your first two months or am I reading you wrong? I'd love to fly an Ishtar :p.
Right now I'm working on getting some pre-req skills up before training into assault ships, I wanna fly a Ishkur for PvP. That and a Nemesis.
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Bibosikus
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Posted - 2010.01.19 08:04:00 -
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Hell no, I played for 9 months before I got into an Ishtar at lvl 5 HAC :) Could have done it before then, certainly. Wish I had now lol.
Nemesis for solo PvP? One word: don't. It's great in a gang, but solo pvp in stealth bombers sucks nowadays. You'll spend far too much time sneaking about looking for a cruiser/BC sitting still on its own. The Ishkur, on the other hand, will give you hours of hispeed rofl.
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Omal Omal
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Posted - 2010.01.19 08:10:00 -
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Originally by: Bibosikus Hell no, I played for 9 months before I got into an Ishtar at lvl 5 HAC :) Could have done it before then, certainly. Wish I had now lol.
Nemesis for solo PvP? One word: don't. It's great in a gang, but solo pvp in stealth bombers sucks nowadays. You'll spend far too much time sneaking about looking for a cruiser/BC sitting still on its own. The Ishkur, on the other hand, will give you hours of hispeed rofl.
Naw, there's a bunch of guys in my corp about to get into capital ships.
We also like doing a bunch of small frig roams and the Nemesis' roll seems fun for PvP. Stealth bomber ftw. I also like being a scout/intel.
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cal nereus
Cal Temp Agency
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Posted - 2010.01.19 08:59:00 -
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Great story, Omal Omal. I'm glad to hear your first few months in Eve have been so good, and I hope many other young pilots get a chance to read this too. Sounds like you've got a great corp to work with, as well. That makes a big difference. Continue to have fun and maybe we'll see each other in space. Clear Skies Day of Darkness |
Neddy Fox
Gallente Paxton Industries Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2010.01.19 09:17:00 -
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Edited by: Neddy Fox on 19/01/2010 09:17:51 Teaming up with new players is a good way to kickstart them. If you have quality time available to play (4-5 hours a day is quitte a lot if you're married :P) It's easy to have someone scan for anomalies and blitz through them. If a new player takes care of the salvage it normally pays for his precense on grid (shared bounties) enough. And the op just shows that the M part of MMO (Multiplayer) makes this game great. Grinding alone is boring, and won't net you the ISK you can make in teams.
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Sin Meng
Gallente Capital Construction Research
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Posted - 2010.01.19 09:28:00 -
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Inspiring post is inspiring, next time someone comes to me with the "woe-is-me can't make no money" speech I'll direct them here.
Originally by: CCP Lemur THIS IS GOD: IF YOU HAVE ANY MORE REQUESTS I'M AVAILABLE SUNDAY FROM 10:30 TO 12:00 TO RECEIVE YOUR PRAYERS.
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Omal Omal
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Posted - 2010.01.19 09:31:00 -
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Originally by: Neddy Fox Edited by: Neddy Fox on 19/01/2010 09:17:51 Teaming up with new players is a good way to kickstart them. If you have quality time available to play (4-5 hours a day is quitte a lot if you're married :P) It's easy to have someone scan for anomalies and blitz through them. If a new player takes care of the salvage it normally pays for his precense on grid (shared bounties) enough. And the op just shows that the M part of MMO (Multiplayer) makes this game great. Grinding alone is boring, and won't net you the ISK you can make in teams.
I think my enthusiasm to play EVE has kickstarted the old schoolers more than the reverse.
From a newbie to the people who run corps. Get a few new people in your corp, it'll help keep the attitude fresh and not stale.
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Natasha Ashatan
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Posted - 2010.01.19 10:08:00 -
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The advantage you have had here is a fantastic corp by the sounds of it. I'd love to move into nullsec space, even though I'm barely 2mnths old. I did try, but being in New Zealand it is hard to find active corps in hi-sec, let alone nullsec. I've joined a number of corps on my main account but so many are scared rigid of lowsec, WH's, or nullsec. It is kinda sad, because the real money is out there in nullsec.
Sure you can make even more in highsec through trade or something, but its boring to hell.
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Swiftgaze
Elysium Holdings Elysium Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.19 10:18:00 -
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Originally by: Omal Omal
On my first day of doing this, I made about 10 mil in bounty's. I didn't make much because I was normally a room behind my corp mates. However, the next day after the contracted salvage (oh, lol... I had to learn how to use a contract this night) to one of my corp officers, he took it to High sec and sold it all of depositing 65 million in my Wallet (GASP!!!).
Wow you made a billion without noticing that trials can't use contracts.
Nice troll-attempt, loser, but you can't fool us professionals.
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TriadSte
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.01.19 10:45:00 -
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Swiftgaze just dished out the ownage yeaaaa
Nice one
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Sin Meng
Gallente Capital Construction Research
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Posted - 2010.01.19 10:52:00 -
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Originally by: Swiftgaze
Originally by: Omal Omal
On my first day of doing this, I made about 10 mil in bounty's. I didn't make much because I was normally a room behind my corp mates. However, the next day after the contracted salvage (oh, lol... I had to learn how to use a contract this night) to one of my corp officers, he took it to High sec and sold it all of depositing 65 million in my Wallet (GASP!!!).
Wow you made a billion without noticing that trials can't use contracts.
Nice troll-attempt, loser, but you can't fool us professionals.
Spoilsport.
Originally by: CCP Lemur THIS IS GOD: IF YOU HAVE ANY MORE REQUESTS I'M AVAILABLE SUNDAY FROM 10:30 TO 12:00 TO RECEIVE YOUR PRAYERS.
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Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.01.19 11:04:00 -
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Originally by: Swiftgaze
Originally by: Omal Omal
On my first day of doing this, I made about 10 mil in bounty's. I didn't make much because I was normally a room behind my corp mates. However, the next day after the contracted salvage (oh, lol... I had to learn how to use a contract this night) to one of my corp officers, he took it to High sec and sold it all of depositing 65 million in my Wallet (GASP!!!).
Wow you made a billion without noticing that trials can't use contracts.
Nice troll-attempt, loser, but you can't fool us professionals.
You sir, deserve a cookie
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Freya Padme
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Posted - 2010.01.19 11:13:00 -
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thats a lot of effort to go to just to spend half of it on a PLEX :S think how much better off you'd be if you spent that 35-40 hours a week in a job :D
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Omal Omal
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Posted - 2010.01.19 11:25:00 -
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Edited by: Omal Omal on 19/01/2010 11:36:11 Edited by: Omal Omal on 19/01/2010 11:34:54
Originally by: Swiftgaze
Originally by: Omal Omal
On my first day of doing this, I made about 10 mil in bounty's. I didn't make much because I was normally a room behind my corp mates. However, the next day after the contracted salvage (oh, lol... I had to learn how to use a contract this night) to one of my corp officers, he took it to High sec and sold it all of depositing 65 million in my Wallet (GASP!!!).
Wow you made a billion without noticing that trials can't use contracts.
Nice troll-attempt, loser, but you can't fool us professionals.
To respond to... your troll... mr. professional ...
Um, if you were able to read, you'd see that I made 10 million (roughly) in bounty's before realizing I didn't know how to make a contract. After the 10 mil in bounty's I had to contract the salvage to someone.
I purchased the game 3 days after I downloaded the trial when I found out you couldn't train one of the ship skills (cruisers if I remember correctly).
When you purchase the game, you retain the 14 days.
So, with a game purchase, you get 30 days plus 14
12/30/2009 11:49:34 AMMedia Account5 12/29/2009 3:50:56 PMEVE Time Code60 Days 11/13/2009 5:55:28 PMPromotional Game Time14 Days
The "Media Account" was compensation from CCP when the GTC system bugged and flagged accounts as inactive after purchasing a GTC through the site. I was down for a day, so they gave me some game time and another Zephyr.
But yeah... I went from (pre dominion) tutorials > null sec so I really was clueless on what contracts were.
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Mr Kidd
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Posted - 2010.01.19 11:41:00 -
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I missed the part about how many hours a day you play.
Is that 12 or 24hrs/day?
You've done good. Now come here and I'll give you a celebratory anal probe.
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Omal Omal
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Posted - 2010.01.19 11:43:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Kidd I missed the part about how many hours a day you play.
Is that 12 or 24hrs/day?
You've done good. Now come here and I'll give you a celebratory anal probe.
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1253240&page=1#13
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McDaddy Pimp
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.01.19 11:50:00 -
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lol, i've played this game for 2 years, and nvr bought a single PLEX, guess im to lazy to rat. Gratz on your achievement though. Now go fit you rifter/vexor/nemesis and kill ppl
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Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
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Posted - 2010.01.19 11:54:00 -
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Congrats...
Reminds me of a post made by someone complaining about the game because it forced him to train for a year before he could play.
More noobs need to read tnings like this!
Fly Safe!
------------------------ Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer "I've got a couple of Strippers on my ship... and they just love to dance!" ------------------------ |
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Mr Kidd
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Posted - 2010.01.19 11:55:00 -
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Originally by: Omal Omal
Originally by: Mr Kidd I missed the part about how many hours a day you play.
Is that 12 or 24hrs/day?
You've done good. Now come here and I'll give you a celebratory anal probe.
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1253240&page=1#13
5 - 6 hours an evening. Sure, I believe you. |
McDaddy Pimp
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.01.19 12:06:00 -
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Edited by: McDaddy Pimp on 19/01/2010 12:07:59
Originally by: Mr Kidd
Originally by: Omal Omal
Originally by: Mr Kidd I missed the part about how many hours a day you play.
Is that 12 or 24hrs/day?
You've done good. Now come here and I'll give you a celebratory anal probe.
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1253240&page=1#13
5 - 6 hours an evening. Sure, I believe you.
Maybe you should get out of empire more.
post dominion, u can clear a "heaven" anomaly in 45 minutes (with proper ship and fittings, solo) thats 30mil in bounties, not counting if you get a faction spawn. thats 40mil/hour with minimal effort. 5X40milX30days = 6 bil. So OP is actually 5 bil short.
edit: Also, faction spawns gives you an extra 100mil or so, per spawn. |
Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.01.19 12:07:00 -
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Edited by: Furb Killer on 19/01/2010 12:07:22 OP cant clear haven anomaly in 45 minutes. And maybe it is different for other factions, but for sanshas havens dont have 30M bounties, more like 20M. Sanctums go to the 30M. |
McDaddy Pimp
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.01.19 12:12:00 -
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Originally by: Furb Killer Edited by: Furb Killer on 19/01/2010 12:07:22 OP cant clear haven anomaly in 45 minutes. And maybe it is different for other factions, but for sanshas havens dont have 30M bounties, more like 20M. Sanctums go to the 30M.
I'm just answering to this guy skepticism. If OP made 1 bil out of potentially 5-6bil, to me its totally plausible. |
Omal Omal
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Posted - 2010.01.19 12:40:00 -
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Originally by: McDaddy Pimp
Originally by: Furb Killer Edited by: Furb Killer on 19/01/2010 12:07:22 OP cant clear haven anomaly in 45 minutes. And maybe it is different for other factions, but for sanshas havens dont have 30M bounties, more like 20M. Sanctums go to the 30M.
I'm just answering to this guy skepticism. If OP made 1 bil out of potentially 5-6bil, to me its totally plausible.
I would do 1-2 0.0 anomalies (each rat faction has additional BS anomalies in null sec) an evening and average a faction spawn every other night.
Also, you get about twice what you get in bounty's in salvage. Before I had my alt I would re-ship and salvage them. A single 0.0 high end anomaly can yield roughly 50 mil in salvage. I trained salvage to 3 when I was doing Plexes with my corp so I could get the officer spawns. By far salvaging was the biggest money maker and yielded more ISK per hour than actually farming the bountys.
What made the game really fun was trying to sneak an industrial ship through null sec to take the items to better markets. Watching intel as I would hop through systems.
I've lost a total of 3 packed (10km3+) industrial ships worth of salvage/loot so far.
This alone made the game great for me. My alt is learning transport ships right now and I wanna eventually get him into jump freighters.
To clear one which would be anywhere from 5 to 7 waves would take me two > three hours. In my Myrm before I had T2 drones, a single wave would take me an hour and a half. After training into T2 drones I was able to clear a wave in under 30 minutes. Until I had T2 drones, I spent a lot of time belt ratting and looking for faction spawns that way. It was more profitable per hour because I didn't need as much tank and could breeze through them quickly.
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Rashmika Clavain
Gallente Shadows Of The Federation
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Posted - 2010.01.19 13:53:00 -
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I love the Sanctums... specially when they spawn a faction NPC.
If you're doing drones now, keep going for an passive tanked Ishtar. Then sit out at 100km with x5 sentry II's Removed. Please keep your EVE signature related to your EVE persona and not that of a real life politician. Navigator |
Omal Omal
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Posted - 2010.01.19 14:06:00 -
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Edited by: Omal Omal on 19/01/2010 14:08:31
Originally by: Rashmika Clavain I love the Sanctums... specially when they spawn a faction NPC.
If you're doing drones now, keep going for an passive tanked Ishtar. Then sit out at 100km with x5 sentry II's
Right now I'm playing catch up. I'm missing a lot of core skills that make me effective in a Domi. I can't even equip more than 3 350MM rails right now so I need a few engineering/gunnery skills. Right now I've got Engineering V in the queue (20 hours left) with Weapons upgrades V right after.
Since I didn't do normal ship progression as anyone else did and specialized into Battlecruisers, I skipped a lot of the "core" skills. I did get all my learning skills to at least four, including charisma skills as they gave me a couple extra points to use in a re-map.
My ship plan is something like this:
Cruisers> Vexor BC's > Myrm BS's > Both Mega and Domi depending on what I'm doing. Assult Ships > I want a good PVP ship, but this will be after I get some more navigation skills done. Heavy Assault Ships > Passive Ishkur FTW. T2 Battleships (Marauder)> I look forward to being able to fly Kronos someday for mission running. Carriers > I want a second wife...er... Nyx someday so I'll be training heavily in drones.
This plan, so that i am effective, finishes 214 days from now.
If I throw another point in Cybernetics I can shorten this by 6 days.
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SirDynty
Gallente Boiians
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Posted - 2010.01.19 14:15:00 -
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thing is that with trial account,you are shoting these 0.0 for hours. Guy played like 12hours a day,got boosted by numerous guildmates trought endgame content and got the money. It is not a problem. There is nothing hard on carebearing in 0.0 even solo. I dont see it threadworthy "corpmates gave me share from their money and i made bilion" u wont make that solo. And we are doing the same thing with with newbies in empire. You shoot,they salvage.
It is the same in mining coporations,when newbies haul ore for them,then split the ISK. The do not want to haul,newbies want o make isk. But it does not mean that newbie would mine the same in cruiser.
So you got boosted by your corp mates and maded a thread about it. Played 80 hours per week and maded some money in cruiser..Nice.
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Ranger 1
Amarr Dynaverse Corporation Vertigo Coalition
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Posted - 2010.01.19 17:47:00 -
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Originally by: SirDynty thing is that with trial account,you are shoting these 0.0 for hours. Guy played like 12hours a day,got boosted by numerous guildmates trought endgame content and got the money. It is not a problem. There is nothing hard on carebearing in 0.0 even solo. I dont see it threadworthy "corpmates gave me share from their money and i made bilion" u wont make that solo. And we are doing the same thing with with newbies in empire. You shoot,they salvage.
It is the same in mining coporations,when newbies haul ore for them,then split the ISK. The do not want to haul,newbies want o make isk. But it does not mean that newbie would mine the same in cruiser.
So you got boosted by your corp mates and maded a thread about it. Played 80 hours per week and maded some money in cruiser..Nice.
I too have issues with basic reading comprehension skills, and feel the need to make a post illustrating that shortcoming.
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Ringo Jeicha
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2010.01.19 18:15:00 -
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Wtf is a guild? --- Braaaiiinnnsssssssssss |
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Sokratesz
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Posted - 2010.01.19 18:30:00 -
[41]
Eve needs more 'newbies' like you
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Az'gaan Karak
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Posted - 2010.01.19 18:35:00 -
[42]
Originally by: Ringo Jeicha Wtf is a guild?
Oh that's a synonyme for "corp" in nearly every other game than Eve, so perhaps pull the stick out of your ***, will you?
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Mister Gimp
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Posted - 2010.01.19 18:38:00 -
[43]
Troll, but not much point to the troll.
You use too much insider lingo such as 'kill mail' which was phased out a while back as well as other continuity errors.
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Sokratesz
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Posted - 2010.01.19 19:04:00 -
[44]
Originally by: Az'gaan Karak
Originally by: Ringo Jeicha Wtf is a guild?
Oh that's a synonyme for "corp" in nearly every other game than Eve, so perhaps pull the stick out of your ***, will you?
No, we won't. It's called a corp, and a character. Get used to it.
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Natasha Ashatan
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Posted - 2010.01.19 19:40:00 -
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Originally by: SirDynty thing is that with trial account,you are shoting these 0.0 for hours. Guy played like 12hours a day,got boosted by numerous guildmates trought endgame content and got the money. It is not a problem. There is nothing hard on carebearing in 0.0 even solo. I dont see it threadworthy "corpmates gave me share from their money and i made bilion" u wont make that solo. And we are doing the same thing with with newbies in empire. You shoot,they salvage.
It is the same in mining coporations,when newbies haul ore for them,then split the ISK. The do not want to haul,newbies want o make isk. But it does not mean that newbie would mine the same in cruiser.
So you got boosted by your corp mates and maded a thread about it. Played 80 hours per week and maded some money in cruiser..Nice.
I agree with this guy. No way would you have been able to achieve what you have if you had gone it alone. Your corp has made you who you are. However, its good to see that there are great corps out there willing to take on new players. I'm fairly certain if you'd spend your first month in high-sec it wouldn't have been anywhere as near a thrilling experience.
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Souldemba Mataka
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.01.19 20:09:00 -
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Originally by: Mister Gimp Troll, but not much point to the troll.
You use too much insider lingo such as 'kill mail' which was phased out a while back as well as other continuity errors.
I understand how you troll, I just can't understand WHY?
You sire need to check out why you exist. STFU!!
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Omal Omal
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Posted - 2010.01.19 20:23:00 -
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Originally by: SirDynty thing is that with trial account,you are shoting these 0.0 for hours. Guy played like 12hours a day,got boosted by numerous guildmates trought endgame content and got the money. It is not a problem. There is nothing hard on carebearing in 0.0 even solo. I dont see it threadworthy "corpmates gave me share from their money and i made bilion" u wont make that solo. And we are doing the same thing with with newbies in empire. You shoot,they salvage.
It is the same in mining coporations,when newbies haul ore for them,then split the ISK. The do not want to haul,newbies want o make isk. But it does not mean that newbie would mine the same in cruiser.
So you got boosted by your corp mates and maded a thread about it. Played 80 hours per week and maded some money in cruiser..Nice.
Of course I got help, but isn't that what an MMO is about?
The title of the thread doesn't say solo. I also clearly state that I received help. My first point in the entire "story" says that I got a salvager fitted so I could salvage their wrecks.
It's a rule in my corp, any salvage is split amongst the members of the fleet. It's something I think more corps should take on as a general practice.
"There is nothing hard on carebearing in 0.0 even solo."
There is on an account who has very little mechanic skills, in a Myrm who (at the beginning) didn't understand spawn triggers. There is a challenge in doing it in a character on the 1 month mark with under 1.5 Mil SP.
I think the statement you should have made:
"There is nothing hard about Video Games or killing giant, predictable, unintelligent pixels."
But you can say that about a lot of MMO's.
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Regat Kozovv
Caldari Alcothology
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Posted - 2010.01.19 20:30:00 -
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Noobie of the year award to OP.
This is utterly fantastic. Way to have a good time and take best advantage of your early days.
tl;dr for everyone else:
1. Make friends. Join an established corp and see the galaxy. 2. Fly cheap ships and don't be afraid to lose them. OP got popped a ton of times and is still on top.
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Baneken
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.01.19 20:43:00 -
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A nice positive story for a change, though I'd recommend buying a plex and selling it. I've noticed it's lot more relaxing and enjoyable to grind anomalys and stuff or PvP when you know you don't have to. Just play the game I've tanked to a like 100mil since I got the plex but now I'm back with 320mil from doing anomalys (and haven't even sold those rigs I made from the salvage from doing anomalys) in fleets of 3 or 5 'corpies' while waiting for red's. :P
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Imran
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.01.19 21:28:00 -
[50]
Good post :)
Wish you the best of luck as you continue to play. __________________________________________ EwokPoacher: Why hate Gallente? Blackest Sheep: Because we are beautiful.
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Pseudo Sasaya
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Posted - 2010.01.19 22:01:00 -
[51]
So.. basically you got access to valuable null sec resources from a corp willing to let you sit and make money instead of gate duty or other such newbie task?
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Meredith Midnight
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Posted - 2010.01.19 22:14:00 -
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So... in summary for a noob to get rich, they need to join a corp in a renter alliance whose members will allow him to piggy-back off of their efforts. To each their own. Congrats and best of luck in your EVE career.
/me prefers paving my own way
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Omal Omal
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Posted - 2010.01.19 22:23:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Meredith Midnight So... in summary for a noob to get rich, they need to join a corp in a renter alliance whose members will allow him to piggy-back off of their efforts. To each their own. Congrats and best of luck in your EVE career.
/me prefers paving my own way
Glory be to the sandbox that is EVE
Right, and my next goal is to hold solo SoV in Stain.
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Jessica Lanson
Port Hercules
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Posted - 2010.01.20 01:59:00 -
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Originally by: McDaddy Pimp Edited by: McDaddy Pimp on 19/01/2010 12:07:59
Originally by: Mr Kidd
Originally by: Omal Omal
Originally by: Mr Kidd I missed the part about how many hours a day you play.
Is that 12 or 24hrs/day?
You've done good. Now come here and I'll give you a celebratory anal probe.
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1253240&page=1#13
5 - 6 hours an evening. Sure, I believe you.
Maybe you should get out of empire more.
post dominion, u can clear a "heaven" anomaly in 45 minutes (with proper ship and fittings, solo) thats 30mil in bounties, not counting if you get a faction spawn. thats 40mil/hour with minimal effort. 5X40milX30days = 6 bil. So OP is actually 5 bil short.
edit: Also, faction spawns gives you an extra 100mil or so, per spawn.
I thought I would add this for comparison. Of course it's not what a new player gets but I'd consider it the baseline for not failing at missioning.
High Sec - Raven Navy Issue - Tech 2 Fit - Cruise w/ Sentry Drones Angel Extravaganza including bonus room 3m reward 30m bounty 7500 LP No looting or salvaging (!) Used 300K ISK in ammo 50 minutes run time 39m ISK @ 800 ISK/LP
The time could be better e.g. Torp CNR, HAM Tengu, Torp Golem, AC Machariel, Faction fit instead of T2 fit. The ISK/LP ratio could be better (1600 for Caldari Stuff is good). The mission itself is about 4/5th of the ISK per hour of some of the best ones (e.g. Pirate Invasion).
This is without loot or salvage. Run a few missions then grab the Tengu (40km tractors) and suck it all up before the 2 hour timer. Or grab it on the fly with Marauder.
No chance of faction spawn or officer loot. Risk factor of zero. Boredom factor high. Highsec is dull.
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Tavren Darknigh
Griefer-B-Gone Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.20 03:19:00 -
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Great story mate and glad your having a good time in eve. I'm doin the same thing except out in catch and with a bit different setup. Anyways you mentioned a domi, heres the fit I'm using. Against sansha rats it tanks about 1000DPS perma as well as salvages and could effectively solo anoms, I bring a t2 maelstrom with it just to speed the process up :D
[Dominix, ratting domi]
Drone Link Augmentor I 2x Small Tractor Beam I 2x Salvager I Improved Cloaking Device II
5x Cap Recharger II
Damage Control II Armor EM Hardener II Armor Explosive Hardener II Armor Kinetic Hardener II Armor Thermic Hardener II 2x Large Armor Repairer II
3x Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
5x Hobgoblin II 5x Ogre I 5x Hammerhead II 5x Curator I
The cloaking device can be t1 and of course you know to switch the hardeners for your rat. Total cost of the ship is roughly 100mil. I would highly suggest downloading EVEhq, its a legal third party program that does the same thing as EFT and EVEMON plus a ton of other things.
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Omal Omal
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Posted - 2010.01.20 03:35:00 -
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Edited by: Omal Omal on 20/01/2010 03:37:13
Originally by: Tavren Darknigh Great story mate and glad your having a good time in eve. I'm doin the same thing except out in catch and with a bit different setup. Anyways you mentioned a domi, heres the fit I'm using. Against sansha rats it tanks about 1000DPS perma as well as salvages and could effectively solo anoms, I bring a t2 maelstrom with it just to speed the process up :D
[Dominix, ratting domi]
Drone Link Augmentor I 2x Small Tractor Beam I 2x Salvager I Improved Cloaking Device II
5x Cap Recharger II
Damage Control II Armor EM Hardener II Armor Explosive Hardener II Armor Kinetic Hardener II Armor Thermic Hardener II 2x Large Armor Repairer II
3x Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
5x Hobgoblin II 5x Ogre I 5x Hammerhead II 5x Curator I
The cloaking device can be t1 and of course you know to switch the hardeners for your rat. Total cost of the ship is roughly 100mil. I would highly suggest downloading EVEhq, its a legal third party program that does the same thing as EFT and EVEMON plus a ton of other things.
I found that an energized adaptive nano membrane > Damage control in PvE. Especially if you put a couple points into the <damage type> Armor Compensation skills. You can make a T2 adaptive nano membrane up ~25% across the board.
If your fit is for sansha, you don't need the kinetic or explosive hardners. Your fit is nice for lvl 4's though without refitting.
My Myrm fit (before Hull Upgrades V, Now I just use T2 Mods as they are cheaper) My domi fit is almost the same except I use two armor repairers and drop the afterburner. I use MED guns in my domi and let my drones do the work for me.: High 1x Drone Link Augmentor I 5X 250MM Prototype Gauss Gun Med 4x Cap Recharger II 1x Y-S8 Hydrocarbon Afterburners Low Coreli C-Type Adaptive Nano Plating (Or True Sansha/Imperial Navy Energized) 2x True Sansha Armor EM Hardener 2x True Sansha Armor Thermal Hardener 1x Accommodation Med Armor Repairer
This fit is win. Cap stable and can tank a LOT against Sansha. My other fits for the other faction rats are almost identical but I'd swap out Hardeners.
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Tavren Darknigh
Griefer-B-Gone Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.20 05:36:00 -
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Thats just the fit for omni tanking, running against sansha im using 2x em 2x therm. The DCU is far superior to the EANM because you do have to realise you ARE in 0.0 pvp is gonna happen especially if your alliance is in any major wars even moreso if sovholding. the 60% resist across your hull can be a lifesaver in those situations where both pilots are closely matched. Also the reasoning behind the cloak.
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Dr Karsun
Gallente HUSARIA Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.20 08:33:00 -
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*claps claps claps*
That's a really good appraoch there, the one we all need in the game. One of the good things you did was going to 0.0 gst -> better rats, more salvage, etc. During my first month I doubt if I earned 100 mil, although I wasn't almost playing, just changing learning skills.
As to good money in 0.0... Making a haven in 45 mins is possible with drones only (heavy tech II damage specific for a target) + salvaging and looting at the same time. Havens are in fact better than sanctums, I cna easily hit 9m per 20 mins (as the money comes in every 20 minutes), but I do think that havens don't give as much as 30m. I guess they give around 25? And sanctums give 35. I'm talking about pure bounty. A sanctum is 1h - 1h15 mins depending on the spawns, havens almost always spawn the same for me. Plus loot - 10-15m, plus salvage - 20m easily (talking about haven again here).
That gives you, if you kill, loot, salvage alone -> 25+10+20 during 45 minutes, so 55m per 45 mins. I never got a faction spawn in a haven though... But counting like this, if you run anomally after anomally, you can easily earn 70m per hour? It in fact goes faster if you have more battleships. Then you should take a sanctum (bigger bounties), you can make an easy 100m per hour with a bit of luck and it's more exciting to see ships blow up every 1-2 seconds. The sanctum require a huge tank though, not something a noob can easily have, tech 2 hards, t2 reppers and t2 cap rechargers and ccc rigs for the 2 reppers to run perma (first spawn if hardest gives a nice beating). On the other hand you can just train for a tier 3 amarr bs that gets the 5% bonus resists and then you can just screw everything and be happy, right?
On a side note - I don't really have much time to run anomalies. The best investment one can make once he earned around 1.4b is invest in pos. That's where the isk comes from -> nothing like 1b isk a month for 30 mins of work spread across an entire month.
You, sir, deserve a medal for beeing able to earn so much isk during such a short period of time. Now take frigs and blow up stuff in 0.0.
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Princess Pirate
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Posted - 2010.01.20 10:14:00 -
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Originally by: Dr Karsun *claps claps claps* Text
A friend of mine did 80 mil in one Sanctum. I think havens can go up to 50 mil. Alot of threads about it.
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Van PokerAlho
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Posted - 2010.01.20 10:40:00 -
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Well done, thats a good spirit, you set goals you were creative and you got success.
Noobs must be creative and they can make huge amounts of money, even in highsec using the same tactic. There are other ways for noobs to make billions per month, but I wont tell because creative players will be rewarded when they find them.
This is why this game is the best, rewards creative people even if they only can fly t1 frigates.
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Ifestos Vulcan
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Posted - 2010.01.20 11:24:00 -
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Well done, but i think i outdo you....... i went str8 for my salvager...put one on an ibis and went down to pr-8ca. full of ruskies and goons. I set my clone to the station and began to loot and salvage the belts , without permission. After 2 or three trips i could pay for 50 salvagers and now depended on nobody except me. i shipped these around to different blood raider stations. if i died i just popped back out and if i died a lot i just changed the system. Eventualy they get sick of sullying their great pvp record with ibis kills and leave you alone, pretty much. I was pulling in 50- 90 m a day...with just my salvage skill, salvager, and an ibis. An when you get bored you can go and try to salvage those player wrecks beside the gates.......what have you got to lose...an ibis? Apart from the isk i made, i also gained valuable pvp experience,death is a great teacher.It was great fun.
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Trimontium
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Posted - 2010.01.20 11:51:00 -
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Quote: So... in summary for a noob to get rich, they need to join a corp in a renter alliance whose members will allow him to piggy-back off of their efforts. To each their own. Congrats and best of luck in your EVE career. /me prefers paving my own way
Posting with Alt. here in line with OP.Im in same Alliance(not a "Renter" btw).All true-and the lad for sure did not spend all of his time Carebearing it up-from day 1 he was out in an Atron or Imicus on Roams with Combat Teams as a tackler.
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Omal Omal
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Posted - 2010.01.20 15:24:00 -
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Originally by: Ifestos Vulcan Well done, but i think i outdo you....... i went str8 for my salvager...put one on an ibis and went down to pr-8ca. full of ruskies and goons. I set my clone to the station and began to loot and salvage the belts , without permission. After 2 or three trips i could pay for 50 salvagers and now depended on nobody except me. i shipped these around to different blood raider stations. if i died i just popped back out and if i died a lot i just changed the system. Eventualy they get sick of sullying their great pvp record with ibis kills and leave you alone, pretty much. I was pulling in 50- 90 m a day...with just my salvage skill, salvager, and an ibis. An when you get bored you can go and try to salvage those player wrecks beside the gates.......what have you got to lose...an ibis? Apart from the isk i made, i also gained valuable pvp experience,death is a great teacher.It was great fun.
Thats awesome.
I wanna try this.
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weeds2010
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Posted - 2010.01.20 16:21:00 -
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Ok, let me get this straight, for having no previous knowledge of eve, you got a trial account and conquered it in a few weeks even with the steep learning curve? Seriously, if your that smart, you shouldn't be wasting time in Eve. The way you explain things equates to quite a bit of experience. I played Warcraft for 5 years. It's like me saying, "Hey guys, I got to level 80 on my trial account in the first two weeks, I'm now in a hardcore raiding guild that's running end-game content and I have 100,000 gold in my bank.", somehow, it just doesn't add up.
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Murphy Turfer
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Posted - 2010.01.20 16:48:00 -
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For every 1 player inspired by your story, there will be another 2 that quit after reading your story cos they realise that they have achieved frak all compared to you in the same amount of time
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Guttripper
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2010.01.20 17:15:00 -
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One thing I do not understand. If you are making the big bucks here, then why would you want another server?
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Dyphorus
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Posted - 2010.01.20 19:08:00 -
[67]
Good thread. New players need to hear things like this so as to avoid grinding missions in high sec for the first 6 months, getting bored, and quitting EVE.
Congrats on jumping in, making some friends, and not doing it wrong! |
Kyttain
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Posted - 2010.01.20 19:18:00 -
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Originally by: weeds2010 Ok, let me get this straight, for having no previous knowledge of eve, you got a trial account and conquered it in a few weeks even with the steep learning curve? Seriously, if your that smart, you shouldn't be wasting time in Eve. The way you explain things equates to quite a bit of experience. I played Warcraft for 5 years. It's like me saying, "Hey guys, I got to level 80 on my trial account in the first two weeks, I'm now in a hardcore raiding guild that's running end-game content and I have 100,000 gold in my bank.", somehow, it just doesn't add up.
Eve is not THAT complicated. 90% of the people complaining about how hard EVE is started the game, canceled the tutorials and started whining in the help/starter corp chanel about how hard everything is. They don't listen to when people give advice because they want to run 1 pulse laser, a rail gun, a blaster and a smart bomb on their rifter because that 'allows them to deal with what ever they come across. They don't read guides, forums or do any type of research because 'it feels like homework'. They are victims of their own lazy/antisocial/closed minded attitudes.
If you're willing to do a bit of reading, take the advice of veteran players, and gtfo of the NPC corps so you can learn from good players success and profit are easy to come by in EVE. That's the glory of this game, you don't have to 'grind' your way to level 80. You can jump in and play from day 1, but you have to be ambitious and ready to learn to make it happen. |
Awesome Possum
Underworld Excavators
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Posted - 2010.01.20 19:31:00 -
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Originally by: Omal Omal >>snip<<
Dear nubs and cry babies and broke ass beaches.
This is how you do EVE as a newbie.
Or you could do like I did and ninja salvage, only made about half what OP did... but still a crapload more than new kids do with level 1-2 hisec missions. ♥
Wreck Disposal Services |
Omal Omal
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Posted - 2010.01.20 20:19:00 -
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Originally by: Guttripper One thing I do not understand. If you are making the big bucks here, then why would you want another server?
I wanna conquer the universe but I can't solo PL, NC, Goons, AAA and CVA.
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Dyphorus
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Posted - 2010.01.20 22:13:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Omal Omal
Originally by: Guttripper One thing I do not understand. If you are making the big bucks here, then why would you want another server?
I wanna conquer the universe but I can't solo PL, NC, Goons, AAA and CVA.
Good answer |
Naddz
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Posted - 2010.01.20 22:30:00 -
[72]
Great story. Extremely nice to hear such a very positive new player experience. I wish you much continued success in EVE.
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Usagi Tsukino
Stimulus Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2010.01.20 22:57:00 -
[73]
Originally by: Mister Gimp You use too much insider lingo such as 'kill mail' which was phased out a while back as well as other continuity errors.
Killmail was phased out? I must have missed that patch note.
Apparently, so did the idiot who wrote the patch notes for the patch tomorrow.
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nakKEDK
Gallente Night Riders with AKs
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Posted - 2010.01.20 23:03:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Omal Omal
Originally by: lego brick cookie for you......... seriously though well done, I like your positive spirit and the fact you have had fun. You have challenged yourself and reached a goal set in your own mind. I'm guessing it was a billion isk? That's the joy of eve welcome my brother from another mother :)
Actually, my initial goal was just to purchase a Plex before the time ran out.
If you did it while having fun then kudos
k
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Halcyon Ingenium
Caldari Interstellar Commodity Exchange
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Posted - 2010.01.20 23:24:00 -
[75]
Well, if that isn't how you win EVE then I don't know what is, well done. All of you who shed tears and complain, take notes. __________ Might Makes Right! -Ragnar Redbeard |
Agent Unknown
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.01.22 04:47:00 -
[76]
Very nicely written. Who says you can't write stories? |
Omal Oma
Aurelius Federation Apotheosis of Virtue
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Posted - 2010.01.22 05:30:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Agent Unknown Very nicely written. Who says you can't write stories?
I'm horrible with stories dude. :p
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Zercix
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Posted - 2010.01.22 15:24:00 -
[78]
Edited by: Zercix on 22/01/2010 15:24:15
Excellent work OP.
Originally by: Regat Kozovv Noobie of the year award to OP.
This is utterly fantastic. Way to have a good time and take best advantage of your early days.
tl;dr for everyone else:
1. Make friends. Join an established corp and see the galaxy. 2. Fly cheap ships and don't be afraid to lose them. OP got popped a ton of times and is still on top.
I am a new player and I am doing it solo in low sec; I want in on the new player of the year competition. I flew out to low sec at about month 3 when I needed a research slot. I decided to stay and made my own corp. I am currently making allies in other corps and alliances, setting a few corps and alliances red so I do not have to check their info before aligning and scanning. Currently I am thinking about dropping my corp and joining an established group.
Granted, my brother-in-law explained much of the game to me before I started and I know how to read, so I guess it has been a bit easier then the average person finding this game, downloading, and starting with no research.
I do not have a billion isk in my wallet, but I have all that I need at this point, can build my own ships and rigs, and I have about 2 hundred million in faction drops in my hanger.
I want in on the running for new player of the year.
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Grimpak
Gallente Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2010.01.22 15:39:00 -
[79]
this noob gets the Grimpak's seal of approval ---
Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.
ain't that right. |
Hemp Invader
g guild Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2010.01.22 16:09:00 -
[80]
I hate people that are so envious. All the people that posted here that the OP made money with somebody's help really need to develop social skills. Eve is all about social interaction. I have only one thing to say to the op: Congrats. Enjoy eve and have fun in it! Eve needs more people like you.
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Lexx Khadar
Minmatar Free Minmatar Union
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Posted - 2010.01.22 16:17:00 -
[81]
Great post Omal. The game definitely needs more positive people like you that aren't egocentric. Best of luck to you in eve whatever you plan to do.
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Mendolus
Aurelius Federation Apotheosis of Virtue
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Posted - 2010.01.22 18:13:00 -
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Edited by: Mendolus on 22/01/2010 18:16:24 I am more than amused at some of the posters balking at the fact that a corporation actually pointed a new player in the right direction to becoming self-sufficient and encouraged them to dive headlong into the richest content of the game, null, within weeks of subscribing to it, suggesting that we somehow let him leech off the fruit of our labors.
We have been doing this ^, teaching players to stand on their own two feet, for more than a year now, and while we may not be the biggest corporation out there, nor the most successful, our members enjoy freedoms that we work hard to provide for them. It does not cost us a dime to make new friends this way.
When I first started this game a month or so after Trinity, I was warned, watch out for player corporations, they like to recruit rookies just like you and use them as slave labor because rookies do not know any better. It reminds me of a fiefdom and relationship between lord and serf.
As long as da pesantz dunt lurn to reed m'lord, we will not haft to burninatez them! Burninates them anyways, just to be sure, and take of their womenfolk!
Bottom line for me is, everyone profits and gets the most entertainment out of the game, when they are given a fighting chance to land on their feet running. Omal was told, come out to 0.0, all you need is a tractor beam and a salvager, once you get your bearings, the game is your oyster. And that's just what he did.
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Omal Oma
Aurelius Federation Apotheosis of Virtue
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Posted - 2010.01.23 00:31:00 -
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Originally by: Mendolus
We have been doing this ^, teaching players to stand on their own two feet, for more than a year now, and while we may not be the biggest corporation out there, nor the most successful, our members enjoy freedoms that we work hard to provide for them. It does not cost us a dime to make new friends this way.
It's also a good, positive way to instill loyalty and enthusiasm.
Decent leadership counts for something also . Now you'll have to control all the people who are banging down the door who want to see the universe. It's a volatile can of worms you've opened. ________________________________________________ <--- My in-game me. |
Tason Hyena
Minmatar Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2010.01.23 01:24:00 -
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Is it me or is anyone else wondering what 0.0 corp recruits trials or low sp players? Not to cast doubt but it just doesn't seem that common from reading forums or recruitment posts.
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Omal Oma
Aurelius Federation Apotheosis of Virtue
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Posted - 2010.01.23 01:57:00 -
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Originally by: Tason Hyena Edited by: Tason Hyena on 23/01/2010 01:26:35 Is it me or is anyone else wondering what 0.0 corp recruits trials or low sp players? Not to cast doubt but it just doesn't seem that common from reading forums or recruitment posts.
edit: amplifying this, I know what corp specifically. It's more how common is it to actually get in as a trial or low sp to an 0.0 corp considering the spying, metagaming, and general needs of most of them.
The interview process is important.
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Bibosikus
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Posted - 2010.01.23 04:17:00 -
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Originally by: Tason Hyena snip ...It's more how common is it to actually get in as a trial or low sp to an 0.0 corp considering the spying, metagaming, and general needs of most of them.
Generally speaking, the larger the nullsec corp, the more it has at risk from alt-spies, and the more stringent the recommendation/recruitment process. An effective alt-spy can, and has, completely jeopardised a 100-BS strong RR fleet by accurate reporting of the fleet's make-up, destination and ETA.. In nullsec, intel is everything.
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Scott Ryder
Amarr Sisters of Korhal Terran Commonwealth
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Posted - 2010.03.03 08:16:00 -
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Originally by: Swiftgaze
Originally by: Omal Omal
On my first day of doing this, I made about 10 mil in bounty's. I didn't make much because I was normally a room behind my corp mates. However, the next day after the contracted salvage (oh, lol... I had to learn how to use a contract this night) to one of my corp officers, he took it to High sec and sold it all of depositing 65 million in my Wallet (GASP!!!).
Wow you made a billion without noticing that trials can't use contracts.
Nice troll-attempt, loser, but you can't fool us professionals.
Us professionals dont buy isk either!
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Nicolo da'Vicenza
Amarr Dissonance Corp Primary.
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Posted - 2010.03.03 09:47:00 -
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Originally by: Scott Ryder
Originally by: Swiftgaze
Originally by: Omal Omal
On my first day of doing this, I made about 10 mil in bounty's. I didn't make much because I was normally a room behind my corp mates. However, the next day after the contracted salvage (oh, lol... I had to learn how to use a contract this night) to one of my corp officers, he took it to High sec and sold it all of depositing 65 million in my Wallet (GASP!!!).
Wow you made a billion without noticing that trials can't use contracts.
Nice troll-attempt, loser, but you can't fool us professionals.
Us professionals dont buy isk either!
holy ****
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Slade Trillgon
Endless Possibilities Inc. Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.03 10:37:00 -
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Originally by: Grimpak this noob gets the Grimpak's seal of approval
This!
Originally by: weeds2010 Ok, let me get this straight, for having no previous knowledge of eve, you got a trial account and conquered it in a few weeks even with the steep learning curve? Seriously, if your that smart, you shouldn't be wasting time in Eve. The way you explain things equates to quite a bit of experience. I played Warcraft for 5 years. It's like me saying, "Hey guys, I got to level 80 on my trial account in the first two weeks, I'm now in a hardcore raiding guild that's running end-game content and I have 100,000 gold in my bank.", somehow, it just doesn't add up.
Yep yep, reading and taking peoples advice now means you are a vet that knows how to do everything. I basically did this, but it took me 3 months because I did not read the forums, and did not get recruited to a corp until my 2nd month or so. I was in 0.0 less the a month later doing what the OP does. So if someone has experience with internet gaming and reads the forums heavily from day 1 there is nothing hard about what he did.
Originally by: Tason Hyena Edited by: Tason Hyena on 23/01/2010 01:26:35 Is it me or is anyone else wondering what 0.0 corp recruits trials or low sp players? Not to cast doubt but it just doesn't seem that common from reading forums or recruitment posts.
edit: amplifying this, I know what corp specifically. It's more how common is it to actually get in as a trial or low sp to an 0.0 corp considering the spying, metagaming, and general needs of most of them.
I joined up with a corp that, then got recruited into The Brotherhood of the Spider, which had sovereignty around 9UY area. I then got my first pvp against my current alliance at less then 3 months and 4 million SP's. This could have happened faster if I had done it right.
Slade
Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker
Please go sit in the corner, and dont forget to don the shame-on-you-hat!
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Vincent Death
Hyasyoda External Security Trade and Development
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Posted - 2010.03.03 10:38:00 -
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Getting a new player to salvage for you is a great idea. However finding a new player willing to do this who is not a complete tard is rather difficult.
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Balthazar Creel
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Posted - 2010.03.03 11:37:00 -
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gratz fella.
its just a shame that youre getting flamed for showing "younger" pilots how you did in your first month.
this game was so different back when i was wide eyed and bushy tailed and tbh couldnt i make the sort of isk that you have been rewarded with.
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Agent Unknown
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.03.03 14:31:00 -
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Originally by: Scott Ryder
Originally by: Swiftgaze
Originally by: Omal Omal
On my first day of doing this, I made about 10 mil in bounty's. I didn't make much because I was normally a room behind my corp mates. However, the next day after the contracted salvage (oh, lol... I had to learn how to use a contract this night) to one of my corp officers, he took it to High sec and sold it all of depositing 65 million in my Wallet (GASP!!!).
Wow you made a billion without noticing that trials can't use contracts.
Nice troll-attempt, loser, but you can't fool us professionals.
Us professionals dont buy isk either!
By the way, this is my signature.
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Asuri Kinnes
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2010.05.31 12:19:00 -
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Bumping to the top. Please re-size your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels with a maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Zymurgist NO! |
Dan O'Connor
Cerberus Network Dignitas.
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Posted - 2010.05.31 13:13:00 -
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Nicely done indeed! Reminds me somewhat of the guy who attempted to make a billion as Noob by doing trades only in Jita 4-4, without ever undocking. I think he succeeded also.
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Ghaylenty
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Posted - 2010.05.31 13:13:00 -
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good read.
to the op, id highly consider the thorax over the vexor for everyday ratting... it depends on your gunnery skills though, i find the vexor severely lacking in dps.
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Omal Omal
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Posted - 2010.05.31 13:18:00 -
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Originally by: Ghaylenty good read.
to the op, id highly consider the thorax over the vexor for everyday ratting... it depends on your gunnery skills though, i find the vexor severely lacking in dps.
When the Vexor was my primary ratting boat, I actually used the drones to tank belts. I'd sick them on the BS's before I had aggro and if they went pop... oh well, T1 drones were cheap :p.
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Mina Alexandria
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Posted - 2010.05.31 13:25:00 -
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I genuinely enjoyed your story, I hope your time in EVE continues to be to your liking :)
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Omal Omal
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Posted - 2010.05.31 14:03:00 -
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Originally by: Mina Alexandria I genuinely enjoyed your story, I hope your time in EVE continues to be to your liking :)
This thread was bumped cause I linked it in the HTFU PVP thread :)
I've seen quite a bit since my first bil.
When I made this thread, I was amongst the many alliances who lived in providence and tried to learn the ropes there. Shortly after this thread, D-G was attacked and I was there in my first battleship, domi :). This was my first CTA and it was being advertised in EVE-Mail's and throughout the intel channels to meet up at a POS in a system near where I was. So, I joined the Conventionals fleet and ran over to the JB POS where there was an Avatar! I mean... At this point, I'm what... 2.5 months old and I'm in a CTA getting ready to titan bridge into a war surrounded by hundreds of other battleships. All of this build up was soon to be cut down after bridge'ing into D-G...
It was a mess and is still considered one of the largest slaugh... encounters in EVE history. The lag was atrocious, it took me over 5 minutes to lock a target and when I finally did get it locked, I couldn't launch my drones and got some weird error.
After about 20 minutes of fighting lag, not enemies... I decided to warp off grid and to a safe spot I had made then log out. I didn't enjoy this.
After this day, Providence's morale was shot. There was no good fight, there was no epic battle... The rest was just blob after blob of much more powerful enemies stomping all over providence for months on end. My alliance put up as much of a fight as we could handle. We weren't a massive capital alliance or a holder, but we fought for that space as if it were our own. A tip to people who hold space and have "pets", treat them with the respect they earn by shedding blood for your space and they'll stick around... I'm not going into that any further as it's above my pay grade... but yeah. When morale is low, find ways to raise it, not knock it down :)
Anyway... We moved out of provi and met up with some friends in Scalding Pass and held sov there for a couple months. We learned a LOT as an alliance about logistical networks, our capabilities as an alliance when a CTA is called and how quickly we can or if we even should respond during which times of the day... etc... to small roaming gangs. All kinds of cool things were learned out there.
then, not but a little bit ago, some friends of ours asked us to join them in their fight for sov and we will be fighting for sov and working from the ground up, in exchange for our experience with logistics, manufacturing how awesome this noob is.
And that's where I am now!
This guy is in Primary. however my main is not. I'm in Primary. cause I used to help them fuel POS's and their Jump Bridges :p... yeah, I've come a ways.
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Psychotic Maniac
Caldari Head Shrinkers
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Posted - 2010.05.31 15:09:00 -
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I made more than you my first week. Suicide ganking is very profitable.
Probably only took me 1/100 the time it took you. hehe --
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CCP Soundwave
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.31 16:47:00 -
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You are pretty much my favorite newbie.
I wish more new people would take the path you did, well done.
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Ban Doga
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Posted - 2010.05.31 17:24:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Soundwave You are pretty much my favorite newbie.
I wish more new people would take the path you did, well done.
Wait, are you trying to say the other ones are doinitrong?
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Knives Stabbyhands
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Posted - 2010.05.31 18:21:00 -
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less than 6 months playing and I'm stuck on a Hurricane XD tho I can fly barges o.o
Honestly, if I read this before having 1.6kk SP bonus spent on a random skill-choosing frenzy, it would have saved me alot of time... now I can fit T2 equips on mah BC and I'm having a blast with it XD
Kudos for your story, may it be an advice to newbs that complaing about having to spend 1 year training stuff before they can play...
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Omal Oma
Shadowed Command Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2010.05.31 21:04:00 -
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Edited by: Omal Oma on 31/05/2010 21:06:44
Originally by: CCP Soundwave You are pretty much my favorite newbie.
I wish more new people would take the path you did, well done.
Couple things about this...
I hope they don't. And I hope this isn't the vision CCP has for EVE. I say this because... this is how I enjoyed EVE. Many others wouldn't have fun doing what I did. Many wouldn't appreciate the work I put in nor would they care to work and build an alliance.
As another guy in this thread mentioned, he did some low sec pirating and he made good money doing that. Another person took a noob ship and salvaged belts in null sec. They had fun doing it their way.
In my humble... noob opinion, I hope you guys don't try to mold a path for people to progress in this game and continue to leave it very open ended and... open beginning. Keep the tutorials challenging and cryptic. Word of mouth sells this game. I wish I could write them :).
In my opinion, the only path I'd set for people is to give them a newbie mission where they asked to explore into null/low sec space. The current perception of this space is very skewed by people who have grown to be afraid of it. People need to start losing ships that early so they can understand on how to replace them. I chose to go into null because it's what I wanted to do. Most people don't understand this aspect of the game when they first start, I just did my homework. This needs to be shown to a player early on when they can blow up tackle frigs left and right with little care in the world.
True story, 5 days into EVE I was held ransom inside a low sec station... I didn't know what to do. I jumped into a low sec system to get something I needed for my new catalyst that I got from a mission and there was a camp of baddies on the other side. Some quick thinking where I docked up, grabbed a noob ship and knew they were gonna kill it. So I used my pod to get back to high sec and go out.
This needs to be repeated some how for everyone.
Do your best to keep the game working and just keep adding to the tools for us to play with (Change the SOV mechanic so fleets are forced to spread out on a node)
The only thing I find wrong with the beginning of this game is that it pushes new players into some really bad corporations who are recruiting just to feed their high sec play style and taxes. I've found the high sec corps who my alliance recruits to be far more ignorant of this game than me where they have been around for years. Furthermore, I find them to be more corrupt than null sec corps (not the ones we recruit... the corps in high sec in general). The High sec ones tend to have an agenda for a self serving need where null sec corps tend to work as a group and do things together.
oh... Sig related...
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Tetragammatron Prime
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Posted - 2010.05.31 22:14:00 -
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Originally by: Natasha Ashatan The advantage you have had here is a fantastic corp by the sounds of it. I'd love to move into nullsec space, even though I'm barely 2mnths old. I did try, but being in New Zealand it is hard to find active corps in hi-sec, let alone nullsec. I've joined a number of corps on my main account but so many are scared rigid of lowsec, WH's, or nullsec. It is kinda sad, because the real money is out there in nullsec.
Sure you can make even more in highsec through trade or something, but its boring to hell.
Join "kiwiland" channel and I can point you in the right direction of some corp.
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Cassion Yenteri
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Posted - 2010.06.01 19:32:00 -
[105]
Nice thread to read as a noob Playing for less than two weeks and it gives me ideas in how I want to proceed. The best part of this game for me so far is the openness in choosing your path.
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dexington
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Posted - 2010.06.02 08:43:00 -
[106]
How many hours did you use?
Playing 24/7 for 44 day (14 days trial + 30 days ~= 1000 hours) you would need to make 1 mio every 1 hours, or around 24 mio a day. As long as you have friends doing high level PvE missions who are in need of someone to salvage, you can do 25 mio a day, with no problems, playing around 4 hours a day (maybe less).
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CCP Soundwave
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.02 22:15:00 -
[107]
Originally by: Omal Oma Edited by: Omal Oma on 31/05/2010 21:07:17 Edited by: Omal Oma on 31/05/2010 21:06:44
Originally by: CCP Soundwave You are pretty much my favorite newbie.
I wish more new people would take the path you did, well done.
Couple things about this...
I hope they don't. And I hope this isn't the vision CCP has for EVE. I say this because... this is how I enjoyed EVE. Many others wouldn't have fun doing what I did. Many wouldn't appreciate the work I put in nor would they care to work and build an alliance.
As another guy in this thread mentioned, he did some low sec pirating and he made good money doing that. Another person took a noob ship and salvaged belts in null sec. They had fun doing it their way.
In my humble... noob opinion, I hope you guys don't try to mold a path for people to progress in this game and continue to leave it very open ended and... open beginning. Keep the tutorials challenging and cryptic. Word of mouth sells this game. I wish I could write them :).
In my opinion, the only path I'd set for people is to give them a newbie mission where they asked to explore into null/low sec space. The current perception of this space is very skewed by people who have grown to be afraid of it. People need to start losing ships that early so they can understand on how to replace them. I chose to go into null because it's what I wanted to do. Most people don't understand this aspect of the game when they first start, I just did my homework. This needs to be shown to a player early on when they can blow up tackle frigs left and right with little care in the world.
True story, 5 days into EVE I was held ransom inside a low sec station... I didn't know what to do. I jumped into a low sec system to get something I needed for my new catalyst that I got from a mission and there was a camp of baddies on the other side. Some quick thinking where I docked up, grabbed a noob ship and knew they were gonna kill it. So I used my pod to get back to high sec and go out.
This needs to be repeated some how for everyone.
Do your best to keep the game working and just keep adding to the tools for us to play with (Change the SOV mechanic so fleets are forced to spread out on a node)
The only thing I find wrong with the beginning of this game is that it pushes new players into some really bad corporations who are recruiting just to feed their high sec play style and taxes. I've found the high sec corps who my alliance recruits to be far more ignorant of this game than me where they have been around for years. Furthermore, I find them to be more corrupt than null sec corps (not the ones we recruit... the corps in high sec in general). The High sec ones tend to have an agenda for a self serving need where null sec corps tend to work as a group and do things together.
Oh, this is my main / alliance / corp.
We definately don't disagree that players should pick EVE up and play it exactly the way they want it. My comment referred to you starting the game in a similar way I did, and you're enjoying the part of the game I spent so long enjoying (and still do). You took a difficult but very rewarding road and i commend you for it.
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