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Jazus Salvador
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Posted - 2010.01.20 22:16:00 -
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Edited by: Jazus Salvador on 20/01/2010 22:16:31 Is it actualy true that you can take a carrier into a class 3 wormhole if you come in from a class 4 or higher?
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Destroperuk
Auctoritas Fleet Auctoritas Empire
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Posted - 2010.01.20 22:26:00 -
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Originally by: Jazus Salvador Edited by: Jazus Salvador on 20/01/2010 22:16:31 Is it actualy true that you can take a carrier into a class 3 wormhole if you come in from a class 4 or higher?
No. There are no wormholes that can go between a c4 and a c3 that can fit a carrier through. It is, however, in theory possible to get them in from a certain type of c5 hole, and also from some lowsec/nullsec holes. But then again you have to get a wormhole like that, and that doesn't happen very often.
If you really want a carrier in your c3 (oh god why do people use carriers in c3s?) it's easier to just build it in there.
Check this for info on what wormholes can fit what ships. A carrier requires a 1,350,000 hole.
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Jazus Salvador
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Posted - 2010.01.20 23:08:00 -
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What kind of hole are we talking about here?
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Tau Cabalander
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.01.21 02:07:00 -
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Yes it is true if the wormhole is OUTGOING to the higher class system (K162 on the higher class side).
In the 6 months I've lived in a C2 we've once had a random outgoing C6.
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FireT
Gallente As Far As The eYe can see Chained Reactions
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Posted - 2010.01.21 03:23:00 -
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Unless you can have carriers loose a few tons.
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Captain Muscles
Caldari Clan Farthammer
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Posted - 2010.01.21 17:50:00 -
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From the time I've spent in w-space, I've come to the conclusion that any wormhole between 2 systems will have a maximum mass limit based on the smaller of the two systems. I haven't yet seen any evidence to the contrary.
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Jazus Salvador
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Posted - 2010.01.21 20:17:00 -
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And so... the answer is yes its possible or no its not possible?
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Reya Lightbringer
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Posted - 2010.01.22 10:31:00 -
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Originally by: Destroperuk
(oh god why do people use carriers in c3s?)
Are you kidding? There are plenty of uses for a Carrier in a C3.
CAPITAL REMOTE REP - Especially if you live in a Cataclysmic Variable, this thing becomes incredible. Especially with 2+ Carriers spider-repping, in Siege Mode. This is great for PvP as well as POS defense since you'l be able to repair guns/pos shield really, really fast.
FIGHTER ASSIGNMENT - Even go up against a Widow in a C3 with 5 fighters? It ain't pretty... Lots of other ships can really benefit for the addition of fighters as well. Once again though - only PvP.
SOMEONE TRYING TO CLEAR ANOMOLIES IN YOUR SYSTEM!?!?! - Start to warp the Carrier there then stop warp and watch in a cloaky ship as they get a whole lot of Sleeper Battleships dropped on them. I love this one.
The Carrier in a Wormhole does have very limited uses for it's price tag (price tag defined as time spent hauling in TONS of Trit) but it's a fun little toy to have at your disposal. That being said - look at it as a Upgrade to your Home WH System because unless there is just the right set of circumstances, it ain't leavin. |
Bubbled
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Posted - 2010.01.22 12:26:00 -
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Edited by: Bubbled on 22/01/2010 12:26:38
Originally by: Reya Lightbringer
SOMEONE TRYING TO CLEAR ANOMOLIES IN YOUR SYSTEM!?!?! - Start to warp the Carrier there then stop warp and watch in a cloaky ship as they get a whole lot of Sleeper Battleships dropped on them. I love this one.
From what I know the BS spawn on cap ship warp in only works in class 5-6. c/d ? |
Jazus Salvador
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Posted - 2010.01.22 18:38:00 -
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And yet the question remains, can you or can you not fly a Carrier inside a class 3 wormhole
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caboaddict
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Posted - 2010.01.22 18:48:00 -
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Originally by: Jazus Salvador And yet the question remains, can you or can you not fly a Carrier inside a class 3 wormhole
The answer to the question typed above is yes. If you have a carrier in a C3 WH you can warp from planet to planet and into anomolies and hell, even mine with it if you wanted to. You just aren't likely going to be able to go to any other WH system nor leave WH space in the carrier.
Most people are talking about the problem of getting one in there in the first place. There appears (from posts above) a very remote chance that you'd have a WH large enough to get into the system, but mostly like you won't ever see this.
Your only other choice is to build the carrier at a POS inside the c3.
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Zemlin
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.22 18:52:00 -
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Edited by: Zemlin on 22/01/2010 18:54:42
Originally by: Reya Lightbringer
Originally by: Destroperuk
(oh god why do people use carriers in c3s?)
Especially with 2+ Carriers spider-repping, in Siege Mode. This is great for PvP as well as POS defense since you'l be able to repair guns/pos shield really, really fast.
1. Siege?.....on a carrier, what would I ever do without my 625% bonus to turrets and launchers on my nidhoggur?
2. assuming you meant Triage, 2+ triage carriers spider repping might not be the brightest Idea since a carrier can not be remotely repped in triage mode not that I could imagine sleepers breaking a lone triage tank mind you but you cant use fighters or drones then either so I hope you have some wicked smartbomb skills.
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hyperfly
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.01.22 19:31:00 -
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We live in a class 5 with a class 3 static hole and it will not fit a carrier, we had to wait till we got a low sec hole, but will never fit in the class 3. Maybe one somewhere tho. Check your wormholes.
This site has a list of wormholes
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Tau Cabalander
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.01.23 01:28:00 -
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Originally by: hyperfly We live in a class 5 with a class 3 static hole and it will not fit a carrier, we had to wait till we got a low sec hole, but will never fit in the class 3. Maybe one somewhere tho. Check your wormholes.
This site has a list of wormholes
RIGHT HERE
Your C3 is a static OUTGOING wormhole. You need a C3 random INCOMING wormhole.
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ExookiZ
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Posted - 2010.01.23 14:06:00 -
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Edited by: ExookiZ on 23/01/2010 14:13:25 you cannot. Captain Muscles is correct, a wh's maximum jumpable mass is limited by the smaller wormhole even a class 6 linking to a 3 will not allow capital ships.
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JgGravy
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Posted - 2010.01.27 19:03:00 -
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Most Carriers will be built in class 3's and lower. The higher lvl wh's can get the carriers in and out of there though the correct wh's. I have seen many carriers in class 3 and 4 wh's in the past months. My favorite sighting... 5 carriers in a class 3 all just floating in the pos. I've heard of overkill, but i was more wondering who got first dibs of taking a wh out when it came?
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Xessej
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Posted - 2010.01.28 01:40:00 -
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Originally by: Bubbled Edited by: Bubbled on 22/01/2010 12:26:38
Originally by: Reya Lightbringer
SOMEONE TRYING TO CLEAR ANOMOLIES IN YOUR SYSTEM!?!?! - Start to warp the Carrier there then stop warp and watch in a cloaky ship as they get a whole lot of Sleeper Battleships dropped on them. I love this one.
From what I know the BS spawn on cap ship warp in only works in class 5-6. c/d ?
Works in class 3 and 4 as well. Never heard of anyone trying it in a class 1 or 2.
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Tau Cabalander
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.01.28 08:06:00 -
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Originally by: ExookiZ Edited by: ExookiZ on 23/01/2010 14:13:25 you cannot. Captain Muscles is correct, a wh's maximum jumpable mass is limited by the smaller wormhole even a class 6 linking to a 3 will not allow capital ships.
I disagree. U319 wormhole has the same mass limit regardless of if it came from a C6 or a C1.
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Captain Muscles
Caldari Clan Farthammer
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Posted - 2010.01.28 16:14:00 -
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Originally by: Xessej
Originally by: Bubbled Edited by: Bubbled on 22/01/2010 12:26:38
Originally by: Reya Lightbringer
SOMEONE TRYING TO CLEAR ANOMOLIES IN YOUR SYSTEM!?!?! - Start to warp the Carrier there then stop warp and watch in a cloaky ship as they get a whole lot of Sleeper Battleships dropped on them. I love this one.
From what I know the BS spawn on cap ship warp in only works in class 5-6. c/d ?
Works in class 3 and 4 as well. Never heard of anyone trying it in a class 1 or 2.
I have friends who have started doing class 4 anomalies recently in a carrier and say that the extra BS did not spawn.
Originally by: Captain Muscles
Originally by: ExookiZ Edited by: ExookiZ on 23/01/2010 14:13:25 you cannot. Captain Muscles is correct, a wh's maximum jumpable mass is limited by the smaller wormhole even a class 6 linking to a 3 will not allow capital ships.
I disagree. U319 wormhole has the same mass limit regardless of if it came from a C6 or a C1.
Perhaps, but I haven't seen a U319 spawn in a C1. What I have seen is a S804, which leads to a C6 but has the 20,000,000 mass limit of a standard C1 hole. I've seen a lot of other wormholes that lead to a higher class than the source system, but they have always had a maximum mass limit equal to what you'd expect from a hole leading to the lower class system.
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Tau Cabalander
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.01.28 19:12:00 -
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Originally by: Captain Muscles
Quote: I disagree. U319 wormhole has the same mass limit regardless of if it came from a C6 or a C1.
Perhaps, but I haven't seen a U319 spawn in a C1. What I have seen is a S804, which leads to a C6 but has the 20,000,000 mass limit of a standard C1 hole. I've seen a lot of other wormholes that lead to a higher class than the source system, but they have always had a maximum mass limit equal to what you'd expect from a hole leading to the lower class system.
I had a random U319 in my C2. As I stated earlier, such connections seem to be very rare, but they are possible.
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