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Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
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Posted - 2011.09.20 17:25:00 -
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Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:Kitty McKitty wrote:From a WoD press release the following statement was made Quote:Incarna is actually considered a prototype, the rendering engine that will ship with the MMO will be much more advanced. Proof that we are being treated as test puppets and that CCP are happy with this situation. Source You don't like WiS? DON'T USE IT! Nobody is forcing you to load the station environment right now.
Right now, yes.. wait until Winter patch :)
Enjoy listening to your fans.
It's about the only fans you or CCP has. |
Chaos Incarnate
Faceless Logistics
254
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Posted - 2011.09.20 17:30:00 -
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Miilla wrote:Proof that CCP lied to their own Eve customers.
Every time we stated Eve was being used as a Test bed for Carbon etc etc, we got push back clearly stating it is NOT a prototype testing.
Did they? Please share your sources, i desire to see this statement you speak of |
Mendolus
Aurelius Federation
30
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Posted - 2011.09.20 17:30:00 -
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Miilla wrote:Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:Kitty McKitty wrote:From a WoD press release the following statement was made Quote:Incarna is actually considered a prototype, the rendering engine that will ship with the MMO will be much more advanced. Proof that we are being treated as test puppets and that CCP are happy with this situation. Source You don't like WiS? DON'T USE IT! Nobody is forcing you to load the station environment right now. Right now, yes.. wait until Winter patch :) Enjoy listening to your fans. It's about the only fans you or CCP has.
The developer blog already stated we'll have the option in the future of decanting or not (i.e. ship spinning or CQ), and the server will remember our choice for each time we dock at a station from then on... way to be grossly misinformed.
...clearly the Ishukone Watch Scorpion is the fifth horseman of the Apocalypse, i.e. the Brown Rider, otherwise known as Poopie. |
Kitty McKitty
In Praise Of Shadows
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Posted - 2011.09.20 17:35:00 -
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Way to watch what they do and not what they say. I'm holding out for those fixes to appear in game before I get excited about them. "Why can't I be different and original, like everybody else?" |
Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
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Posted - 2011.09.20 17:41:00 -
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CCP is too busy back-peddling on Incarna right now. If you want to truth about Eve, read the press, not what CCP says.
1) Devs/GM's posting frantically in the fourms to appear "visible" and caring. 2) Incarna is now classed as a "side game" instead of the future of Eve. 3) Free AUR 4) Ship spinning returning 5) Capitans closet is now "OPTIONAL".
I have never seen so much back peddling in my lfie. |
Mendolus
Aurelius Federation
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Posted - 2011.09.20 17:48:00 -
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Kitty McKitty wrote:Way to watch what they do and not what they say. I'm holding out for those fixes to appear in game before I get excited about them.
That is of course entirely up to your discretion, and rightly so.
However, what are the chances that CCP would allow a dev to post that these features are being implemented, and then not actually implement them, given the already tenuous situation they face at a marketing level with their subscriber publicity, and public sentiment on their integrity at stake?
...clearly the Ishukone Watch Scorpion is the fifth horseman of the Apocalypse, i.e. the Brown Rider, otherwise known as Poopie. |
Kitty McKitty
In Praise Of Shadows
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Posted - 2011.09.20 17:50:00 -
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You don't remember torfi's actions in the past then. This wouldn't be the first time promises have been broken, hence holding my breath for the changes. "Why can't I be different and original, like everybody else?" |
baltec1
50
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Posted - 2011.09.20 17:52:00 -
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Miilla wrote:baltec1 wrote:Miilla wrote:
Proof that CCP lied to their own Eve customers.
Every time we stated Eve was being used as a Test bed for Carbon etc etc, we got push back clearly stating it is NOT a prototype testing.
Same as how they tested everything else in this game on us including the server technology. Where do you think they are going to run WoD? lol, another million dollar server? WoD will have MORE customers than Eve ever will. Given that eve requires LESS server resources now (less players), and the fact they are making the server code hot and dynamic loadable across nodes, WoD, Eve, and Dust will all be on the cluster, sure they can expand it but it is all going to live on the cluster.
I suppose you have something to back up these outrageous claims |
Mendolus
Aurelius Federation
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Posted - 2011.09.20 17:56:00 -
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Miilla wrote:CCP is too busy back-peddling on Incarna right now. If you want to truth about Eve, read the press, not what CCP says.
1) Devs/GM's posting frantically in the fourms to appear "visible" and caring. 2) Incarna is now classed as a "side game" instead of the future of Eve. 3) Free AUR 4) Ship spinning returning 5) Capitans closet is now "OPTIONAL".
I have never seen so much back peddling in my lfie.
Fear Mongering 101
Lesson 1: If the sky is falling, the gods must surely be angry at us for [insert something you want to gain here]. Lesson 2: If the plebs disagree with your oration, remind them the sky is falling, and only [insert something you want them to do here] will save them. Lesson 3: The gods are always angry, every misfortune that ever occurs, is because... the gods are angry. Lesson 4: Lessons 1 through 3 are the only lessons you ever need to sow fear and paranoia among the masses in order to profit from their excitability.
i.e. on topic, at least directly... so every post, unequivocally every post a dev or GM makes on these forums, is without any doubt an attempt to appear caring, and in fact, every single dev and GM employed by CCP, does not care one iota about any of us, whatsoever, by your account? ...clearly the Ishukone Watch Scorpion is the fifth horseman of the Apocalypse, i.e. the Brown Rider, otherwise known as Poopie. |
Obsidian Hawk
RONA Corporation RONA Directorate
89
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Posted - 2011.09.20 17:56:00 -
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Did anyone forget to read the part about
Lots of blood and gore?
nudity.
and the ability to stab each other in the back?
HOW DO WE KNOW that this wont come to eve online. |
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Mendolus
Aurelius Federation
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Posted - 2011.09.20 17:57:00 -
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Kitty McKitty wrote:You don't remember torfi's actions in the past then. This wouldn't be the first time promises have been broken, hence holding my breath for the changes.
This isn't the kind promise that CCP can break by this point, IMO. Their past history on individual issues is irrelevant as far as I am concerned.
This is not the kind of issue they could promise us at this point in time and not deliver on, IMO. ...clearly the Ishukone Watch Scorpion is the fifth horseman of the Apocalypse, i.e. the Brown Rider, otherwise known as Poopie. |
Kitty McKitty
In Praise Of Shadows
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Posted - 2011.09.20 18:41:00 -
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It still wouldn't surprise me, but I agree it would be a disaster for them. "Why can't I be different and original, like everybody else?" |
Mendolus
Aurelius Federation
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Posted - 2011.09.20 18:56:00 -
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Yea, it would be colossal, and I was never really partial on whether they ever brought ship spinning back to begin with personally, but now that they have made fairly tangible promises, I too would be sorely disappointed if we did not actually see this implemented as they are telling us it will be, i.e. being able to choose whether we decant or not.
I will choose to not decant by default personally as Incarna is nice and all... relatively speaking, but I've always been more interested in the spaceships in this space opera of ours, the fact that CCP wants to make it a full fledge science fiction masterpiece is nice and all, but I can go rent a movie for that, so here in game, I would prefer to undock in ever more fascinating ships into every more fascinating and evolving game mechanics and starry backdrops, in space.
But, that's just me who knows... maybe pink panties will be introduced at some point... I certainly wouldn't complain if they released them to the NEX store and female avatars walking around in bars suddenly started sporting them, ...
...clearly the Ishukone Watch Scorpion is the fifth horseman of the Apocalypse, i.e. the Brown Rider, otherwise known as Poopie. |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
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Posted - 2011.09.20 19:00:00 -
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Miilla wrote:CCP is too busy back-peddling on Incarna right now. If you want to truth about Eve, read the press, not what CCP says.
1) Devs/GM's posting frantically in the fourms to appear "visible" and caring. 2) Incarna is now classed as a "side game" instead of the future of Eve. 3) Free AUR 4) Ship spinning returning 5) Capitans closet is now "OPTIONAL".
I have never seen so much back peddling in my lfie.
More to the point I think is that all of the points you made your reputation on as EVE biggest troll are being resolved... leaving you with little to scream about other than the amusing "how DARE they backpeddle and fix all those things that I said needed fixing"...
Your attention grabs are drifting from mildly amusing to transparently pathetic.
Do yourself a favor, just stop until you get some plausible material. To kill the enemy and break their toys!
It's not so much a mission statement,-áit's more like a family motto. |
baltec1
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Posted - 2011.09.20 19:06:00 -
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Obsidian Hawk wrote:Did anyone forget to read the part about
Lots of blood and gore?
nudity.
and the ability to stab each other in the back?
HOW DO WE KNOW that this wont come to eve online.
Sounds just like eve tbh. The only reason we dont see blood and gore is because we vaporise the squishy stuff |
TriadSte
Thr33lance Incorp
1
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Posted - 2011.09.20 19:08:00 -
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I dont so much mind that CCP are using Eve as a test bed, means we get to see stuff first right?
What does bother me though is the very thought of CCP literally stopping all manner of development on Eve and just keeping the servers up to cream in the cash. Then obviously going onto new and existing projects full time.
Eve has the scope to be the most epic MMO for a very long time, It's possible that Eve could still be here in 100 years time if done properly. The developers and people who matter within CCP should be 100% passionate about this game as it's CCPs baby.
Why would you throw away something that was hard to make happen?
Please CCP I ask you to continue with Eve with as much passion and hunger for perfection as when you first began its production. |
Mendolus
Aurelius Federation
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Posted - 2011.09.20 19:09:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Sounds just like eve tbh. The only reason we dont see blood and gore is because we vaporise the squishy stuff
I miss the nude skin pack you could get for the first Unreal Tournament, good times!
TriadSte wrote: Eve has the scope to be the most epic MMO for a very long time, It's possible that Eve could still be here in 100 years time if done properly.
Erm, you may or may not be using some hyperbole here, but at best I would give it another 5-10 years personally. Even if they could prolong the life cycle of the game beyond that, in all likelihood their focus would inevitably shift to another project at some point, though I am doubtful it will be WoD, who knows.
I highly highly doubt that EVE will be their core project for more than twenty years, if anything, they would redevelop it from the ground up at some point.
Projects like these inevitably get too big to maintain continually over time once you add enough overhead to them, and without the fairly limitless resources of company's like say Blizzard for instance, the likelihood that CCP will be able to simply add expansion after expansion for even more than ten years from present is highly unlikely, esp. if the subscription rates remain relatively small in the grand scheme of things, i.e. under half a million subscribers.
Eventually the game itself and the overhead will no longer be supported by the cost structure that the subscriber base provides for it, hence why we are possibly seeing the first rumblings of MT and non-vanity items in our precious space opera.
CCP already said it in not so many words, they wanted to provide us with a ton of new clothing and amazing variety, but they just could not justify the expense and time it would require of the art teams, so instead they are giving us some NEX items, and if we seem interested enough in making use of the NEX, they will then fund that revenue into the art projects and pump out even more materials, ... possibly at lower prices, I would hope...
Anyways, business acumen, it's not for everyone!
Separating business and pleasure, not something the average gamer seems capable of, which is either a good thing, or a very very bad thing, depending on how you look at it. ...clearly the Ishukone Watch Scorpion is the fifth horseman of the Apocalypse, i.e. the Brown Rider, otherwise known as Poopie. |
Cearain
The IMPERIUM of LaZy NATION
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Posted - 2011.09.20 22:35:00 -
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stoicfaux wrote:Kitty McKitty wrote: Proof that we are being treated as test puppets and that CCP are happy with this situation.
a) Duh. I think everyone has figured that out by now. b) The source you linked is a bit fuzzy and hasn't been confirmed. While it is most likely an accurate and intentional statement, there's enough ambiguity in regards to the source and the context that you cannot treat it as "proof" of anything. tl;dr - You're a day late and a dollar short of making a point. That job at foxnews.com will have to wait.
Lots of people were denying incarna was basically an alpha for WOD.
It's interesting that you claim you already knew this but still question the credibility of the source. Why question the source if you "everyone" already knew the claim was true? Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Simetraz
State War Academy Caldari State
54
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Posted - 2011.09.20 22:40:00 -
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NEWS FLASH
FIS engine was and is a prototype.
So we all have been testing it for years now.
Capitals (Balancing and Roles) |
Vardec Crom
Skyforger Tactical Narcotics Team
0
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Posted - 2011.09.20 22:44:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-dRpLXZyvE2M/TljniQMzsZI/AAAAAAAAAEA/HkL6Ydt-0Eo/s1600/5_1+%25282%2529.png
If I was a mod I would ban you for image macros. Go back to 4chan ******. |
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Triggadex
Black Dawn Merchant Industries
9
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Posted - 2011.09.20 22:56:00 -
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Old news, hints why developers make engines and frameworks. <3 Carbon Framework. CCP Guard's Day | Wake up --- Make Coffee --- Read and Reply on forums for 7 hrs --- Have meeting --- Sleep on couch in Office |
non judgement
Evolved from the Wreck Flying Burning Ships Alliance
5
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Posted - 2011.09.20 22:58:00 -
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I'm a little bit shocked...
Let me gather my senses.
You're telling me that a little room with a couch and a nice view of my ship is a Prototype?!?!
*breaths*
I am not amused!!
*anger raising*
How could this happen?!?! The first time this has made its way in to Eve Online and they dare to have some kind of prototype of one room for me to stand in while they work on the rest and get everything working smoothly?!?!
Eve is nothing like the game Prototype.. I don't know what you guys are talking about... Eve isn't in New york, is it?? Prototype is a nice game. |
Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
54
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Posted - 2011.09.20 23:01:00 -
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EVE is DYING! I tell ya!
END IS NIGH!!!
NIGH! NIGH!
BRB in 10 years while I repent all my ingame sins
I cannot help but notice the lack of BLUE on this thread. |
Xiozor
League of Non-Aligned Worlds Nulli Tertius
3
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Posted - 2011.09.20 23:34:00 -
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Miilla wrote:
CCP! I am very angry about Incarna and how you took steps which went against the best wishes of the playerbase, and now that you have shown that you are listening to our feedback, you are becoming more visible in the community and the change in focus from Incarna back to the features you promised which we have been campaigning for, I am even more angry because you are 'backpedding' (?!) and giving me far less to complain about.
Some people just love to ***** huh? |
Trolls Troll
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.09.20 23:35:00 -
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Vertisce Soritenshi wrote: Who.
*******.
Cares?
Seriously. Why do people give such a damn about this? It's not even a big deal. So EvE is the proving ground for advanced tech that is going to be used in another MMO? So what? It is helping to improve EvE in the long run irrigardless of your opinions regarding Incarna and WiS. Whatever advanced techniques they use with WoD I am sure will be put into EvE. It only serves to make EvE better and make CCP more money leading to better stuff for everybody later.
You don't like WiS? DON'T USE IT! Nobody is forcing you to load the station environment right now.
You people ***** too much.
I should make that my signature.
you sound like you care, quite a bit I would judge from the length and tone of your post.
Umad? |
Zombatar
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2011.09.20 23:45:00 -
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Miilla wrote:CCP is too busy back-peddling on Incarna right now. If you want to truth about Eve, read the press, not what CCP says.
1) Devs/GM's posting frantically in the fourms to appear "visible" and caring. 2) Incarna is now classed as a "side game" instead of the future of Eve. 3) Free AUR 4) Ship spinning returning 5) Capitans closet is now "OPTIONAL".
I have never seen so much back peddling in my lfie.
I think such items should be taken for granted pre and post Incarna. No idea where/when CCP lost them. Them being any other way is a blasphemy in EVE. |
Zombatar
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2011.09.20 23:47:00 -
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Obsidian Hawk wrote:Did anyone forget to read the part about
Lots of blood and gore?
nudity.
and the ability to stab each other in the back?
HOW DO WE KNOW that this wont come to eve online.
Before that happenes our GPUs will explode -> see here. lol :D |
Cunane Jeran
7
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Posted - 2011.09.20 23:50:00 -
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This is truly new and exciting and entirely unexpected.
Please OP tell me moar. |
Misty Fricknine
Hedion University Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2011.09.20 23:51:00 -
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Posting in a butthurt rant thread about how the game is "over" & no-one should be playing it. Jerry Pepridge, Doesn't have an iPhone Either. |
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
334
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Posted - 2011.09.21 00:00:00 -
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Kitty McKitty wrote:we are being treated as test puppets and that CCP are happy with this situation And the "Duh!" award goes to... *drumroll* ... Kitty McKitty, for her Captain Obvious impersonation ! Oh, and welcome to a few years ago.
Ever since CCP merged with WW and announced WoD will be using Ambulation/WiS/Incarna as a test bed for technology (the tech would have been developed anyway, so might as well get something marginally useful for EVE out of it too while you're at it), we knew that that was going to happen, to some degree anyway.
So, what exactly makes it news ONLY now ? The fact that some didn't expect it to be so underwhelming in its first couple of published iterations ? Or maybe that early versions are unoptimized, buggy POS ? And it's obvious CCP are content with using us as unpaid beta testers, why exactly wouldn't they be ? http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Contributor_name:Akita_T#Contributions_link_collection |
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