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iskflakes
Magnets Inc. Imperial Auxiliares Regiment
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Posted - 2012.06.25 22:48:00 -
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This patch was incredibly poorly planned. Some time ago I bought several of these "limited edition" shirts off the market for over a billion isk each as an investment. I woke up today to find that _without any announcement or warning_ these items have been made worthless. This happened to several other NEX items I was holding as well.
I have lost at least 5 billion isk due to this patch - If an item is supposidly "limited edition" it should stay that way. If you want to change it, you should give a full list of the items you will be releasing, and you should reimburse people such as myself who have poured countless hours into obtaining these now worthless items.
That money was going to fund my subscriptions over the next few months, but now what will I do? |
iskflakes
Magnets Inc. Imperial Auxiliares Regiment
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Posted - 2012.06.25 23:53:00 -
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Everybody who's been shafted by this should petition it. That might get their attention. |
iskflakes
Magnets Inc. Imperial Auxiliares Regiment
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Posted - 2012.06.26 00:34:00 -
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However some of us did pay 1b+ for a shirt, and CCP said they wouldn't change the prices of existing items, and that's exactly what they've done. |
iskflakes
Magnets Inc. Imperial Auxiliares Regiment
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Posted - 2012.06.26 01:12:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:iskflakes wrote:However some of us did pay 1b+ for a shirt, and CCP said they wouldn't change the prices of existing items, and that's exactly what they've done. Items sold through the NEX. This item was never sold via the NEX... or anywhere else for that matter.
Except, if you've looked recently, it IS on the NEX. |
iskflakes
Magnets Inc. Imperial Auxiliares Regiment
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Posted - 2012.06.26 17:23:00 -
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Something needs to be done about this. |
iskflakes
Magnets Inc. Imperial Auxiliares Regiment
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Posted - 2012.06.28 00:25:00 -
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Trini Soren wrote:Why am I not seeing these items in the NeX store?
I'm not seeing either of the two accidental releases/screwups on the NEX store. Perhaps this means CCP is taking action to fix this mess?
I would like all of these shirts purchased from the NEX store given a new name and turned into a separate item from the original "special edition" shirts. That way the "special edition" shirts can maintain their rareity, but people can still get something that looks the same on the NEX store at a reasonable price.. everybody wins. |
iskflakes
Magnets Inc. Imperial Auxiliares Regiment
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Posted - 2012.06.28 16:45:00 -
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It's good to see some prompt action in removing the two offending items from the NEX store. A lot of us have been very badly burnt by this and we're looking forward to a properly considered solution.
Some suggestions:
1: We would VERY much like to see some statistics on how many red/black coats and ishukone shirts existed prior to the NEX store release vs how many exist now. You will probably have to come up with these statistics anyway when working out how to solve this problem, so it would be nice if you could share them with us.
2: Clearly it would be bad to remove the items that were purchased at 500 AUR, but perhaps they can be changed? I expect you will have database backups going back a few days, so you could find all the people that had these items in their hangars, on the market, on contracts or being worn during downtime on the day before the NEX release. Then each of these people can be compensated with a new version of the same shirt (give it a different name, no need for different artwork).
3: Consider removing "limited edition" from the name of the now VERY common ishukone shirt.
4: "Ishukone Sterling Shirt - Issued over a very specific time frame. This item should only be valid for pilots who participated in the PLEX offer which happened in October 2011. " ... Don't forget the pilots who purchased this item on the market at a huge price, expecting to receive something unique in return!
Keep up the good work. |
iskflakes
Magnets Inc. Imperial Auxiliares Regiment
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Posted - 2012.06.30 14:18:00 -
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Any news on this topic? |
iskflakes
Magnets Inc. Imperial Auxiliares Regiment
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Posted - 2012.07.02 17:06:00 -
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Bump, where is the response to this? |
iskflakes
Magnets Inc. Imperial Auxiliares Regiment
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Posted - 2012.07.04 14:32:00 -
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Still awaiting the announced fixes. A lot of us are billions out of pocket over this. |
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iskflakes
Magnets Inc. Imperial Auxiliares Regiment
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Posted - 2012.07.05 19:43:00 -
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Still waiting for suitable compensation.
Everybody else in this thread is just trolling, because inwardly they're sad that they too can't own luxury 13 PLEX shirts. |
iskflakes
Magnets Inc. Imperial Auxiliares Regiment
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Posted - 2012.07.08 13:35:00 -
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Still awaiting the details of the fix.
The sooner you fix it, the sooner this thread leaves the front page. |
iskflakes
Magnets Inc. Imperial Auxiliares Regiment
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Posted - 2012.07.10 22:52:00 -
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I am pleased to see a new response to this issue, however the following points still need to be addressed:
1) What about the Women's red/gold coat?
2) Will the ishukone shirt be placed back on the NEX store, or will it remain rare from now on? (please announce this in advance so nobody gets burned when you release the patch).
3) Will the women's red/gold coat be placed back on the NEX store?
4) Is the new Men's coat going to be a unique item, or will it also be available on the NEX store? Is it the same coat that is already available?
5) If the isukone shirt is to remain rare, can we see some statistics on how many of these shirts exist, and how many were purchased in the few days after it's release? You probably came up with these statistics already during your investigations.
6) There is a group of players who will not be compensated by this change: Those who had buy orders up the day before the isukone release. Those players, such as myself, woke up to find our wallets a few billion lighter, and our hangars filled with worthless shirts. As these players did not own the shirt during downtime when the change was released, they will not be compensated by the scheme you have announced, yet they still lost billions due to your mistake. I believe the best course of action to help these players is to allow the ishukone shirt to remain rare. This way it will recover some of its original value, and traders such as myself will eventually be able to recover some of our losses.
Please announce all these changes in advance several days before the patch, to allow us to look for mistakes you may have made. If a list of new NEX items had been made available on SiSi or in a dev blog, we would have spotted the ishukone shirt and alerted you before any damage was done. Damage was cuased because the changes were not announced, please do not repeat this mistake. |
iskflakes
Magnets Inc. Imperial Auxiliares Regiment
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Posted - 2012.07.11 14:34:00 -
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Still lots to be answered |
iskflakes
Magnets Inc.
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Posted - 2012.07.13 14:47:00 -
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Still waiting for answers to a few questions. |
iskflakes
Magnets Inc.
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Posted - 2012.07.15 16:32:00 -
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Rikula wrote:Have the items been added yet? I haven't had any redeemable items, but then I'm one of those people with the shirt in a container.
Yeah, I think we all had dozens of billion isk shirts in containers in space, right? *wink* |
iskflakes
Magnets Inc.
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Posted - 2012.07.16 21:32:00 -
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Still waiting for answers to these questions. See previous page(s) for the list of questions. |
iskflakes
Magnets Inc.
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Posted - 2012.07.17 00:45:00 -
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Ayeson wrote:Posting with my monocle/ishukone dress shirt, I aint even mad
CORRECTION: I AM MAD, NOW OTHER PEOPLE GET TO PRETEND TO BE AS :SMUG: AS ME
I have 2 monocles and 15 ishukone shirts, and I wear them all ontop of each other, so my smugness is on a similar scale to yours.
Still need answers to the questions posted on the previous few pages. |
iskflakes
Magnets Inc.
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Posted - 2012.07.19 04:11:00 -
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There are still unanswered questions (around page 26). |
iskflakes
Magnets Inc.
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Posted - 2012.07.19 15:02:00 -
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Still waiting for answers to questions posed on page 29, this is taking a long time. |
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iskflakes
Magnets Inc.
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Posted - 2012.07.21 16:48:00 -
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Is it just me or did we lose a few pages of junk?
If we did, good job whoever deleted it. None of that added to the discussion.
Back on topic, we are still waiting for a few questions to be answered (see page 29). |
iskflakes
Magnets Inc.
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Posted - 2012.07.22 22:56:00 -
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Waiting for answers |
iskflakes
Magnets Inc.
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Posted - 2012.07.23 19:54:00 -
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Why no updates? What's going on? Will we see something in the next patch? |
iskflakes
Magnets Inc.
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Posted - 2012.07.25 11:33:00 -
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CCP Navigator, I am pleased to see this issue will finally get fixed, however I am disappointed that the ishukone shirt will be placed back on the market. As a trader I ended up with several of these shirts, which I paid about 1b each for because my buy orders were up on patch day, and people created these shirts and sold them to me when they were only worth about 50m. As it stands it doesn't appear I will receive any compensation, yet I still lost out due to your mistake. Do you think this is a situation which deserves a petition? |
iskflakes
Magnets Inc.
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Posted - 2012.07.26 08:06:00 -
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Jonas Xiamon wrote:The Antiquarian wrote:I am currently in possession of three "original" Ishukone shirts. Do I have to keep those until the date of the next patch in order to receive the Field Marshal Coat? I believe so, that's what I understood.
I read this differently. From what I understand, the only important thing is whether you had the shirt in your possession on patch day when it was accidentally released. If this is not the case, then how would CCP keep track of which shirts were "originals" and which were the newer NEX items? Though this is a good question and some clarification would be nice.
I'm looking forward to seeing the description on the new item, hopefully it will be something comical... |
iskflakes
Magnets Inc.
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Posted - 2012.08.08 12:41:00 -
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"The new GÇÿField Marshall CoatGÇÖ has had a new item description added from the content team and requires a deployment cycle before it can be issued. The next deployment cycle is Wednesday, August 8 for Inferno 1.2"
Were the changes deployed in Inferno 1.2 as planned?
"Once this deployment is complete, we will sell the GÇÿIshukone shirtGÇÖ in the store as normal."
I do not see the ishukone shirt in the store. |
iskflakes
Magnets Inc.
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Posted - 2012.08.08 13:31:00 -
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Thank you for the fast response (much faster than when this thread started).
"Edit: The Ishukone Shirt will make it onto the store once we've made sure all those who are eligible to get the replacement item get one. The deployment mentioned in the quote is that of the replacement item not the latest version of EVE."
So if I understand this correctly, the ishukone shirt will be made available in a future patch? I will assume that to be the case if there are no more replies. |
iskflakes
Magnets Inc.
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Posted - 2012.09.02 06:36:00 -
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Mars Theran wrote:You are aware you still got the value of the PLEX, (whether used for game time or sold on the in-game market is irrelevent), for the value of that purchase price right?
Also, CCP isn't the first to do this, but the first to make ammends for it.
Dozens of games do this as a matter of course, and quite often, directly with what you paid for, rather than something you got as a free gift with that purchase.
I had it happen in another game less than 2 months ago when I bought an expansion and the developer released everything, (the content), in the in-game f2p store for less, within what appeared to be two weeks of the expansion release.
Mind you, the same didn't happen with some silly useless tripe item you got with it, but then that item was actually only usable on other players to their benefit and if you wanted the same benefit, you had to get another player to use one on you.
In all, considering each player could only benefit once per server with one character and each player who purchased the expansion could grant it 3-4 times per server, who do you think really benefited from it?
I'd have been less offended if I hadn't paid nearly 1.5 times what f2p players had it made available to them for, and anything compared to the VIP players getting it for free when it became f2p content after being released under the premise that it was a paid expansion.
And how is the player count of that game doing these days?
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