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The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
366
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Posted - 2012.06.25 17:08:00 -
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I try to keep myself calm, but this is just way too outrageous that I had to vent here again and again.
You, CCP, make it sound as if ISHUKONE SPECIAL EDITION Shirt is only available contingent upon the purchase of 13 X PLEXs several months ago. I didn't have to, but I took the damn bait, with the expectation that CCP and its honest marketing department will maintain the "uniqueness" and rarity of these special items.
But you decide to reward those who took that "extra leap of faith" by treating us like ***** and dingleberries and having these same items available for 50 cents each, then I don't see the fairness in all this.
CCP, You should have MADE IT ADAMANTLY CLEAR FROM THE BEGINNING THAT AFTER 6 MONTHS, THESE SPECIAL ITEMS WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR 50 CENTS EACH!
CCP should make reparation by rewarding the ISHUKONE SPECIAL SHIRT owners with other equivalent UNIQUE items.
Prior to this debacle, the shirt had a market value of approximately 1.2-1.3B. Now, it costs 11 million to purchase.
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Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
2524
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Posted - 2012.06.25 17:12:00 -
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I can see why you are outraged - but in comparison to some very real game mechanics hosed by the 1.1 patch (ie wardec system) this is just small beer. Probably best to file it under "lol I invested in aurum/Nex and got taken to the cleaners" and move on with your life tbh.
The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom Epic Inferno Wardec Test, Sign up and shoot Goons for free! |
Robert Warner
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
3
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Posted - 2012.06.25 17:13:00 -
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You were treated like " ***** and dingleberries" the moment you spent the equivalent of $200 on a virtual T-shirt, so why come to the forums complaining about it a year later? |
Danfen Fenix
120
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Posted - 2012.06.25 17:16:00 -
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Wow, do you react like this with every price change in your life? How do you ever go shopping ? |
The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
366
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Posted - 2012.06.25 17:16:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote:I can see why you are outraged - but in comparison to some very real game mechanics hosed by the 1.1 patch (ie wardec system) this is just small beer. Probably best to file it under "lol I invested in aurum/Nex and got taken to the cleaners" and move on with your life tbh.
I know it is a small issue relative to other big changes, but I am just venting out because actual money was involved in this damn scheme.
If CCP decided to reissue Fullerene Shards or Cerebral Slices from current missions, I wouldn't have the same reaction.
In this case, there are dozens of people (investors?) who spent actual CASH to receive the "much anticipated" Ishukone Special Edition shirt. What is even more outrageous that we could've gotten the shirt for merely 50 cents if we waited for half a year!
13 x PLEX deal costed more than $230. I know that what we paid is for PLEXs, but in its initial marketing promotion, CCP made it sound as if the shirt was only obtainable via the specified venue.
This is just not acceptable. |
The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
366
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Posted - 2012.06.25 17:18:00 -
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Danfen Fenix wrote:Wow, do you react like this with every price change in your life? How do you ever go shopping ?
Yea, how would you react if you decide to purchase that pretty Mercedes E350 of yours for $48,000 and realize that the same dealership is selling that car for $1,000, 6 months later?
I wouldn't care if it was just an ingame item obtainable solely through ingame activities. This is an issue where actual cash is involved. |
Flakey Foont
160
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Posted - 2012.06.25 17:19:00 -
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At least the Mercedes is real. |
Solstice Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
1584
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Posted - 2012.06.25 17:20:00 -
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Funny how it wasn't obvious for you that this will happen.
Do you also go into a shop for computer parts, buy the new and overpriced stuff and then complain a month later because it's worth only half anymore ?
*shakeshead*
You are not special. You never were. You have the same value as everybody else. None.
You bought it for reasons you probably don't even understand yourself and now you're complaining about not being part of a small "special" group anymore.
RealityCheck:
You never were special. You never will be special.
You didn't even see it coming. You fell for the oldest trick in the book.
It was obvious.
Blame yourself. Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |
Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
2449
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Posted - 2012.06.25 17:21:00 -
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So what you're saying is, that investing in virtual goods owned by a corporation you have no control over might not be a wise move. I can see why you're upset and hope CCP doesn't make a habit of making special edition items common, but I just can't get that upset with you over a shirt especially, since the shirt was a bonus gift given on top of a normal purchase of a PLEX packet. |
Danfen Fenix
120
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Posted - 2012.06.25 17:22:00 -
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The Antiquarian wrote:Danfen Fenix wrote:Wow, do you react like this with every price change in your life? How do you ever go shopping ? Yea, how would you react if you decide to purchase that pretty Mercedes E350 of yours for $48,000 and realize that the same dealership is selling that car for $1,000, 6 months later? I wouldn't care if it was just an ingame item obtainable solely through ingame activities. This is an issue where actual cash is involved.
I would suck it up. Not like theres anything I could do about it, and the dealership wouldn't be obliged to do anything, so why bother ranting? |
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The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
366
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Posted - 2012.06.25 17:23:00 -
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Destination SkillQueue wrote:So what you're saying is, that investing in virtual goods owned by a corporation you have no control over might not be a wise move. I can see why you're upset and hope CCP doesn't make a habit of making special edition items common, but I just can't get that upset with you over a shirt especially, since the shirt was a bonus gift given on top of a normal purchase of a PLEX packet.
You have valid point, but once again, not everyone thinks alike. If you examine the initial marketing promotion, CCP made it sound as if this is only obtainable via this special bundle, as a one-time offer. |
The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
366
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Posted - 2012.06.25 17:25:00 -
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Danfen Fenix wrote:The Antiquarian wrote:Danfen Fenix wrote:Wow, do you react like this with every price change in your life? How do you ever go shopping ? Yea, how would you react if you decide to purchase that pretty Mercedes E350 of yours for $48,000 and realize that the same dealership is selling that car for $1,000, 6 months later? I wouldn't care if it was just an ingame item obtainable solely through ingame activities. This is an issue where actual cash is involved. I would suck it up. Not like theres anything I could do about it, and the dealership wouldn't be obliged to do anything, so why bother ranting?
Even those who are FAR RICHER than me with significantly more disposable income, would see the unfairness in this practice. I know what's done is done, but what I need is CCP's reassurance that they will be clear about their marketing procedures in the future. |
Solstice Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
1584
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Posted - 2012.06.25 17:27:00 -
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Danfen Fenix wrote:I would suck it up. Not like theres anything I could do about it, and the dealership wouldn't be obliged to do anything, so why bother ranting?
Because he bought it for a reason, obviously.
It's not about the money. The money was only the means to get what he wanted.
What he wanted was an unique/rare item.
Unique/rare items make people "special".
Now, of course, he complains about all the money he dropped onto something that made him "special", because obviously he wouldn't complain about not being "special" anymore.
/thread. Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |
Ghost Xray
Hedion University Amarr Empire
90
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Posted - 2012.06.25 17:27:00 -
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Why are you upset? You were able to dress in that sweet shirt 6 months before anyone could reasonably afford it. Weren't those 6 months of unique dress up barbie enough for you? Now the 99% get a crack at looking like a idiot in an overpriced e-shirt.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
8149
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Posted - 2012.06.25 17:28:00 -
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The Antiquarian wrote:Yea, how would you react if you decide to purchase that pretty Mercedes E350 of yours for $48,000 and realize that the same dealership is selling that car for $1,000, 6 months later? GǪbut that's not what's happening in this case, is it?
What's going on here is that you got a free novelty key chain when you signed up for a full year of the book-of-the-month club, and now you're annoyed that the same novelty key chain is available in stores for pretty much the same price as you paid for it (viz. next to nothing). GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
CONCORD spawns: quick enough to save you?
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Newz Bie
The Fiction Factory Blue Nation
8
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Posted - 2012.06.25 17:31:00 -
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$200 for a virtual item.
People actually bought that stuff?
ROFL.
WoW, just WoW, people who clearly have too much RL money deserve to have it taken from them. It's like stupidity tax. +1 CCP. |
Danfen Fenix
120
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Posted - 2012.06.25 17:31:00 -
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The Antiquarian wrote:Destination SkillQueue wrote:So what you're saying is, that investing in virtual goods owned by a corporation you have no control over might not be a wise move. I can see why you're upset and hope CCP doesn't make a habit of making special edition items common, but I just can't get that upset with you over a shirt especially, since the shirt was a bonus gift given on top of a normal purchase of a PLEX packet. You have valid point, but once again, not everyone thinks alike. If you examine the initial marketing promotion, CCP made it sound as if this is only obtainable via this special bundle, as a one-time offer.
It was only obtainable via the special off.....at the time.
It's like when a new movie comes out & it's stated to only be available at cinemas/theaters.
A few months later the DVD comes out.
Or, another recent trend in gaming, when you get special in game items/perks etc for purchasing the collectors edition, then said items are made available later on for MT. |
The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
366
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Posted - 2012.06.25 17:31:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:Funny how it wasn't obvious for you that this will happen.
Do you also go into a shop for computer parts, buy the new and overpriced stuff and then complain a month later because it's worth only half anymore ?
*shakeshead*
You are not special. You never were. You have the same value as everybody else. None.
You bought it for reasons you probably don't even understand yourself and now you're complaining about not being part of a small "special" group anymore.
RealityCheck:
You never were special. You never will be special.
You didn't even see it coming. You fell for the oldest trick in the book.
It was obvious.
Blame yourself.
Obviously you failed ANALOGY section of the SAT exam. What you wrote there, has NOTHING TO DO with what we are going through. Do not try to preach me about my lack of understanding in economics when you are still struggling from the daily hardship of community college life.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
8149
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Posted - 2012.06.25 17:34:00 -
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The Antiquarian wrote:Obviously you failed ANALOGY section of the SAT exam. GǪsays the guy who confuses a free promotional item with the actual good being bought in his car-buying analogy.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
CONCORD spawns: quick enough to save you?
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The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
366
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Posted - 2012.06.25 17:34:00 -
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Danfen Fenix wrote:The Antiquarian wrote:Destination SkillQueue wrote:So what you're saying is, that investing in virtual goods owned by a corporation you have no control over might not be a wise move. I can see why you're upset and hope CCP doesn't make a habit of making special edition items common, but I just can't get that upset with you over a shirt especially, since the shirt was a bonus gift given on top of a normal purchase of a PLEX packet. You have valid point, but once again, not everyone thinks alike. If you examine the initial marketing promotion, CCP made it sound as if this is only obtainable via this special bundle, as a one-time offer. It was only obtainable via the special off.....at the time. It's like when a new movie comes out & it's stated to only be available at cinemas/theaters. A few months later the DVD comes out. Or, another recent trend in gaming, when you get special in game items/perks etc for purchasing the collectors edition, then said items are made available later on for MT.
Could you try to examine other "unique" items. Please take a look at the Alliance Tournament prize section. It never says ANYTHING about the indefinite rarity of those ships, but people take it for granted that these will be "unique" till the end of EVE Online.
Why shouldn't CCP apply that to these other unique promotional items? Except this, actual cash was involved.
If CCP is willing to reissue these promotional items for 1/100th the initial market value, then CCP should do the same for ALL OTHER UNIQUES including:
Silver Magnate Gold Magnate Opux Luxury Yacht Tempest Tribal Issue Imperial Issue Armageddon All ALLIANCE TOURNAMENT SHIPS Guardian-Vexor Federation Issue Magathron.
Why show selectivity? This is not fair. |
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Splodger
Ausbruch Outbreak.
24
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Posted - 2012.06.25 17:36:00 -
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Does anyone have a screenshot or details of the original offer?
Because it would be bad practice if they did indeed state was, either way as a selling entity where real money is involved CCP should have better practices or at least somewhere where The Antiquarian can get some customer service / answer to his query.
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The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
367
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Posted - 2012.06.25 17:37:00 -
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Tippia wrote:The Antiquarian wrote:Obviously you failed ANALOGY section of the SAT exam. GǪsays the guy who confuses a free promotional item with the actual good being bought in his car-buying analogy.
Obviously, I am dramatizing my points so that I can convey my thinking to the poster. I am not trying to espouse the fact that the shirts are equivalent to other tangible luxury items. What i am trying to convey here is the "almost-cryptic-deceptive" marketing practices shown by CCP. |
Solstice Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
1585
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Posted - 2012.06.25 17:37:00 -
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The Antiquarian wrote:Obviously you failed ANALOGY section of the SAT exam. What you wrote there, has NOTHING TO DO with what we are going through. Do not try to preach me about my lack of understanding in economics when you are still struggling from the daily hardship of community college life.
Bullcrap.
Not only am i not an american, i wasn't talking about economics at all.
It's not about the money.
It's about the item, the loss of it's rareness and thus the loss of you're fake belief of being part of a group of "special snowflakes".
You're from the US ? That would be fitting. Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |
The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
367
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Posted - 2012.06.25 17:39:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:The Antiquarian wrote:Obviously you failed ANALOGY section of the SAT exam. What you wrote there, has NOTHING TO DO with what we are going through. Do not try to preach me about my lack of understanding in economics when you are still struggling from the daily hardship of community college life.
Bullcrap. Not only am i not an american, i wasn't talking about economics at all. It's not about the money. It's about the item and the loss of it's rareness. You're from the US ? That would be fitting.
That is part of economics, my community college friend. |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
1508
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Posted - 2012.06.25 17:39:00 -
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See that foot all wrapped in bandages?
That's where CCP shot itself.
Once you show your company to be dishonest in it's promotions, you lose the trust of the people who might have taken advantage of those promotions more than once if they stayed honest.
Mr Epeen There is no excuse beyond fatalistic self-indulgence and sheer laziness for doing nothing --á Iain Banks |
Danfen Fenix
121
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Posted - 2012.06.25 17:40:00 -
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The Antiquarian wrote:but people take it for granted .
Singled out the most important part. Yes, people take it for granted. That is no ones fault but their own. CCP may reissue the other ships etc at a later time. They may not. Last I checked the ships from this christmas just gone were reissued ones themselves, correct? |
Solstice Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
1585
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Posted - 2012.06.25 17:41:00 -
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The Antiquarian wrote:[That is part of economics, my community college friend.
I am not your friend.
I don't have friends with such a low self esteem that they need to buy ...
... overpriced virtual items ... ... in a video game ...
... to give them a false sense of being special.
Again and, so even you can understand:
This isn't about the money or economics.
This is all about your bloated, and now hurt, ego. Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |
Ghost Xray
Hedion University Amarr Empire
92
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Posted - 2012.06.25 17:42:00 -
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The Antiquarian wrote: This is not fair.
And "EvE is not fair" - CCP Soundwave.
EvE Gods giveth and EvE Gods taketh away. Careful not to anger them with your insolence. |
Martil
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.06.25 17:43:00 -
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I don't think I'd spend $230 on a t-shirt even in real life. |
The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
367
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Posted - 2012.06.25 17:43:00 -
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Danfen Fenix wrote:The Antiquarian wrote:but people take it for granted . Singled out the most important part. Yes, people take it for granted. That is no ones fault but their own. CCP may reissue the other ships etc at a later time. They may not. Last I checked the ships from this christmas just gone were reissued ones themselves, correct?
And hence, by pathetic attempt, to convey our displeasure. |
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