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The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
509
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Posted - 2012.07.05 19:54:00 -
[541] - Quote
Aryth wrote:
We still don't have anything.
They keep all the ISK at the Evetel California.
I am not too familiar with Goons' affairs. Could you be little more specific? |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
8383
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Posted - 2012.07.05 20:09:00 -
[542] - Quote
The Antiquarian wrote:CCP t0rfifrans and CCP Spitfire disagree with your assessment. Not really, no. They don't even mention anything related to it.
The reason I keep repeating myself is because you can't come up with a good answer or argument to the opposite: you got something for free that others had to pay for, and you seem to be upset that your free novelty keychain was available in the stores. Why should you be compensated for them having to pay more than you did?
Or, if you like: how am I wrong? Where do I claim to know more than the CCP devs? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
509
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Posted - 2012.07.05 20:30:00 -
[543] - Quote
Tippia wrote:The Antiquarian wrote:CCP t0rfifrans and CCP Spitfire disagree with your assessment. Not really, no. They don't even mention anything related to it. The reason I keep repeating myself is because you can't come up with a good answer or argument to the opposite: you got something for free that others had to pay for, and you seem to be upset that your free novelty keychain was available in the stores. Why should you be compensated for them having to pay more than you did? Or, if you like: how am I wrong? Where do I claim to know more than the CCP devs?
Since you love repeating things over and over again, I will do the same for you.
Here's CCP's response.
"Update: The ishukone shirt did go out accidentally. Meaning the person picking items for the offers ( me ) wasn't aware of it having been used in a PLEX promotion. Bad bad Torfi. Now that it is out and there is an issue with people that had the shirt prior as a coveted rare collectors item, we have suspended sales on the ishukone shirt while we formulate a plan that's as fair to as many as possible. Expect an update later today on the issue. It's interesting thought that it became the most popular and traded item of the new clothes we put out in Inferno 1.1.
In other news, do you think we should sell bi-monocles? An item that's essentially two monocles, one for each eye, costing as much as two monocles? I just think there's a tiny portion of players that might find it amusing to wear those. A vulgar display of, something..." |
The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
509
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Posted - 2012.07.05 20:33:00 -
[544] - Quote
Oh and my sincere apologies Tippia. I didn't even read your posting. No worth reading em anymore.
You can expect similar response for all your future postings.
CCP Dev admitted their mistake and they told us that they will provide us with a fair and just way to compensate us. All I am here for, is to wait for their response.
Not here to argue with you anymore, Tippia. You can keep saying blah blah blah.
All I hear from you (and will hear from you) is blah blah blah anyway. |
corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
552
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Posted - 2012.07.05 20:38:00 -
[545] - Quote
Admitting the mistake and saying "Let's find a way to make this as far to as many people as possible" is not code for "We're going to take away everyone else's shirts and leave you with your exclusive" or "We're going to leave the shirts in but give you your 13 plexes back" or something to that effect.
In other words, you're still unlikely to leave unhappy. . |
KrakizBad
Eve Defence Force Fatal Ascension
786
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Posted - 2012.07.05 20:48:00 -
[546] - Quote
"As fair to as many as possible" does not mean "fair to the extremely few collectors." Guess which side you're going to be on. Why did you take my wings away? |
Mechael
Ouroboros Executor Collective
160
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Posted - 2012.07.05 21:49:00 -
[547] - Quote
Fair would be the removal of Aurum from EVE. Just sayin'. Whether or not you win the game matters not. -áIt's if you bought it. |
The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
511
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Posted - 2012.07.06 05:22:00 -
[548] - Quote
Mechael wrote:Fair would be the removal of Aurum from EVE. Just sayin'.
That is a pathetic answer. There is nothing wrong with Aurum system. It provides additional cash inflow for CCP while having absolutely no impact on the pre-existing capusleers' gameplay.
It is a system only for those who are willing to spend their own money purely for cosmetic purpose. Do you think having CCP rely on "almost free-to-play" model by allowing capsuleers to fund their own subscription via ISK, sustainable in the long run?
More cash inflow => Higher valuation of the company => the cost of capital goes down for both, equity and debt => better financing options from willing banks and other investors => more employees, more gameplay, more expansions, more Dust, more WoD, more EVE Online, more compensated CCP employees, more quality contents => Win-Win situation for all the stakeholders.
Don't just think about the short-term. Think about what is best for EVE Online and CCP in the long-run for Christ's sake. |
Morgorathi
Unironically Bad Silver Dragonz
12
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Posted - 2012.07.06 05:30:00 -
[549] - Quote
I still find it funny this thread is going. Especially when 'The Antiquarian' isn't even wearing the shirt he has been bitching about for the last 26 pages. |
The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
511
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Posted - 2012.07.06 06:34:00 -
[550] - Quote
Morgorathi wrote:I still find it funny this thread is going. Especially when 'The Antiquarian' isn't even wearing the shirt he has been bitching about for the last 26 pages.
What kind of dumb logic is that? If I am bitching, whining, and moaning about the said item, I need to be wearing em? |
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Morgorathi
Unironically Bad Silver Dragonz
12
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Posted - 2012.07.06 07:45:00 -
[551] - Quote
The Antiquarian wrote:Morgorathi wrote:I still find it funny this thread is going. Especially when 'The Antiquarian' isn't even wearing the shirt he has been bitching about for the last 26 pages. What kind of dumb logic is that? If I am bitching, whining, and moaning about the said item, I need to be wearing em?
Well doesn't it seem a little disingenuous or misleading that you 'love' something so much to waste 13 plex to get it and you wont even wear it .
Its like an armor tanking caldari ship or for example I buy games on Steam just for the TF2 hats. If 6 months later i see the same hat or item going for $2.99. I don't post on the steam or TF2 forums whining about it. I spent close to $300 AUD on a ship that I never received in another sci-fi MMO.
You made a stupid mistake and now you're whining about it like a day old newbie who had his rifter blown up by a griefer. CCP admitted they made a mistake(or say they say) but asking for compensation, Is CCP a charity?
Instead of taking it on the chin and moving on with your life; you cry on the forums.
Sorry for any spelling or grammatical errors, I'm distracted and can barely hear myself think |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
8387
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Posted - 2012.07.06 07:57:00 -
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The Antiquarian wrote:Since you love repeating things over and over again, I will do the same for you. GǪand thus repeat the failure to prove me wrong.
The fact remains: you got something for free. You're bitching about how others could pay for it. You are angry that your free novelty key chain was available in the store. Also, the question remains: why should you be compensated for something you got for free?
Quote:I didn't even read your posting. That explains why you are so utterly and completely unable to provide anything remotely resembling a logical argument for your case.
Quote:There is nothing wrong with Aurum system. GǪaside from it having nothing but harm to the game. It was never actually finished; the NeX is still in pre-alpha; it still steals gameplay away from the game; its initial release was bungled and cost the the company a tenth of their subscribers; and here we are GÇö the second attempt to roll out stuff for it GÇö and they bungled that as well and caused you to blow a fuse over stuff you got for free.
Quote:Do you think having CCP rely on "almost free-to-play" model by allowing capsuleers to fund their own subscription via ISK, sustainable in the long run? Oh dear. Don't tell me you don't understand how PLEX works. Pleeease. Yes, it's very sustainable in the long run because accounts maintained through PLEX Gǣfor freeGǥ makes CCP more money than if they were paid for with subscriptions. They're a bit more complicated from an accounting standpoint since all those outstanding services not rendered might look strange on the balance sheet, but that's about itGǪ
GǪand then you wonder why we doubt your economical and financial knowledge. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
511
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Posted - 2012.07.06 08:17:00 -
[553] - Quote
Tippia wrote:The Antiquarian wrote:Since you love repeating things over and over again, I will do the same for you. GǪand thus repeat the failure to prove me wrong. The fact remains: you got something for free. You're bitching about how others could pay for it. You are angry that your free novelty key chain was available in the store. Also, the question remains: why should you be compensated for something you got for free? Quote:I didn't even read your posting. That explains why you are so utterly and completely unable to provide anything remotely resembling a logical argument for your case. Quote:There is nothing wrong with Aurum system. GǪaside from it having nothing but harm to the game. It was never actually finished; the NeX is still in pre-alpha; it still steals gameplay away from the game; its initial release was bungled and cost the the company a tenth of their subscribers; and here we are GÇö the second attempt to roll out stuff for it GÇö and they bungled that as well and caused you to blow a fuse over stuff you got for free. Quote:Do you think having CCP rely on "almost free-to-play" model by allowing capsuleers to fund their own subscription via ISK, sustainable in the long run? Oh dear. Don't tell me you don't understand how PLEX works. Pleeease. Yes, it's very sustainable in the long run because accounts maintained through PLEX GÇ£for freeGÇ¥ makes CCP more money than if they were paid for with subscriptions. They're a bit more complicated from an accounting standpoint since all those outstanding services not rendered might look strange on the balance sheet, but that's about itGǪ GǪand then you wonder why we doubt your economical and financial knowledge.
"Update: The ishukone shirt did go out accidentally. Meaning the person picking items for the offers ( me ) wasn't aware of it having been used in a PLEX promotion. Bad bad Torfi. Now that it is out and there is an issue with people that had the shirt prior as a coveted rare collectors item, we have suspended sales on the ishukone shirt while we formulate a plan that's as fair to as many as possible. Expect an update later today on the issue. It's interesting thought that it became the most popular and traded item of the new clothes we put out in Inferno 1.1.
In other news, do you think we should sell bi-monocles? An item that's essentially two monocles, one for each eye, costing as much as two monocles? I just think there's a tiny portion of players that might find it amusing to wear those. A vulgar display of, something..."
CCP t0rfifrans and CCP Spitfire disagree with your assessment. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
8388
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Posted - 2012.07.06 08:51:00 -
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The Antiquarian wrote:CCP t0rfifrans and CCP Spitfire disagree with your assessment. Nope. Largely because you haven't read what my assessment isGǪ
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
CONCORD spawns: quick enough to save you?
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The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
511
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Posted - 2012.07.06 08:58:00 -
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Tippia wrote:The Antiquarian wrote:CCP t0rfifrans and CCP Spitfire disagree with your assessment. Nope. Largely because you haven't read what my assessment isGǪ
"Update: The ishukone shirt did go out accidentally. Meaning the person picking items for the offers ( me ) wasn't aware of it having been used in a PLEX promotion. Bad bad Torfi. Now that it is out and there is an issue with people that had the shirt prior as a coveted rare collectors item, we have suspended sales on the ishukone shirt while we formulate a plan that's as fair to as many as possible. Expect an update later today on the issue. It's interesting thought that it became the most popular and traded item of the new clothes we put out in Inferno 1.1.
In other news, do you think we should sell bi-monocles? An item that's essentially two monocles, one for each eye, costing as much as two monocles? I just think there's a tiny portion of players that might find it amusing to wear those. A vulgar display of, something..."
CCP t0rfifrans and CCP Spitfire disagree with your assessment. |
Phill Esteen
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
67
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Posted - 2012.07.06 09:02:00 -
[556] - Quote
The Antiquarian, quoting Torfi, wrote:we have suspended sales on the ishukone shirt while we formulate a plan that's as fair to as many as possible this thread hasn't been locked yet, I'd say that's more than fair GÇô postum faex est GÇô-á
never forget
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
8390
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Posted - 2012.07.06 09:03:00 -
[557] - Quote
The Antiquarian wrote:CCP t0rfifrans and CCP Spitfire disagree with your assessment. Nope. Largely because you haven't read what my assessment isGǪ
Spamming the same irrelevant quote doesn't make it suddenly have anything to do with what I say GÇö it only proves you're a troll. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
511
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Posted - 2012.07.06 09:07:00 -
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Phill Esteen wrote:The Antiquarian, quoting Torfi, wrote:we have suspended sales on the ishukone shirt while we formulate a plan that's as fair to as many as possible this thread hasn't been locked yet, I'd say that's more than fair
Just waiting for CCP Devs' response regarding the issue of reparation. Once that's resolved and we get a clear message on their future marketing promotions, then I don't see why this thread shouldn't be locked. Until then, others can continue to spit out nonsensical crap.
And I still don't know why Tippia is writing something on the thread, because I haven't read any of his message for almost a day now. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
8391
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Posted - 2012.07.06 09:11:00 -
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The Antiquarian wrote:Just waiting for CCP Devs' response regarding the issue of reparation. GǪand the question remains: why should you be compensated for something that you got for free?
Would you like a copy of the Pax Ammarria? It was free too, so that seems reasonable.
Quote:And I still don't know why Tippia is writing something on the thread, because I haven't read any of his message for almost a day now. GǪand miraculously, you've managed to explain the cause of your problem to yourself. Of course, you're lying and just have problems coming up with a sensible answer, but stillGǪ GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
511
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Posted - 2012.07.06 09:16:00 -
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Tippia wrote:The Antiquarian wrote:Just waiting for CCP Devs' response regarding the issue of reparation. GǪand the question remains: why should you be compensated for something that you got for free? Would you like a copy of the Pax Ammarria? It was free too, so that seems reasonable. Quote:And I still don't know why Tippia is writing something on the thread, because I haven't read any of his message for almost a day now. GǪand miraculously, you've managed to explain the cause of your problem to yourself. Of course, you're lying and just have problems coming up with a sensible answer, but stillGǪ
"Update: The ishukone shirt did go out accidentally. Meaning the person picking items for the offers ( me ) wasn't aware of it having been used in a PLEX promotion. Bad bad Torfi. Now that it is out and there is an issue with people that had the shirt prior as a coveted rare collectors item, we have suspended sales on the ishukone shirt while we formulate a plan that's as fair to as many as possible. Expect an update later today on the issue. It's interesting thought that it became the most popular and traded item of the new clothes we put out in Inferno 1.1.
In other news, do you think we should sell bi-monocles? An item that's essentially two monocles, one for each eye, costing as much as two monocles? I just think there's a tiny portion of players that might find it amusing to wear those. A vulgar display of, something..."
CCP t0rfifrans and CCP Spitfire disagree with your assessment. |
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
8391
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Posted - 2012.07.06 09:18:00 -
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Yeah, seeGǪ you failed to answer the question there: why should you be compensated for something you got for free? Will an equally free Pax Ammarria do? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
CONCORD spawns: quick enough to save you?
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Pipa Porto
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
262
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Posted - 2012.07.06 09:19:00 -
[562] - Quote
The Antiquarian wrote:Tippia wrote:The Antiquarian wrote:Just waiting for CCP Devs' response regarding the issue of reparation. GǪand the question remains: why should you be compensated for something that you got for free? Would you like a copy of the Pax Ammarria? It was free too, so that seems reasonable. Quote:And I still don't know why Tippia is writing something on the thread, because I haven't read any of his message for almost a day now. GǪand miraculously, you've managed to explain the cause of your problem to yourself. Of course, you're lying and just have problems coming up with a sensible answer, but stillGǪ "Update: The ishukone shirt did go out accidentally. Meaning the person picking items for the offers ( me ) wasn't aware of it having been used in a PLEX promotion. Bad bad Torfi. Now that it is out and there is an issue with people that had the shirt prior as a coveted rare collectors item, we have suspended sales on the ishukone shirt while we formulate a plan that's as fair to as many as possible. Expect an update later today on the issue. It's interesting thought that it became the most popular and traded item of the new clothes we put out in Inferno 1.1. In other news, do you think we should sell bi-monocles? An item that's essentially two monocles, one for each eye, costing as much as two monocles? I just think there's a tiny portion of players that might find it amusing to wear those. A vulgar display of, something..." CCP t0rfifrans and CCP Spitfire disagree with your assessment.
Illiteracy is such a terrible burden. -RubyPorto
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Cat Casidy
Percussive Diplomacy PERCUSSIVE PIZZA TIME DIPLOMACY
46
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Posted - 2012.07.06 09:49:00 -
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Tyberius Franklin wrote:Mr Kidd wrote: Ah ah ah.....be careful what you ask for. Functionally identical......a $2 t-shirt is functionally identical to a $100 t-shirt. Sure, they both serve the purpose to cover the body but one has nicer fabrics and is generally more durable. Just like the Isukone Scorpion purportedly by CCP was functionally identical to the regular Scorpion. But, we couldn't get any more details on that other than it was "functionally identical". Some of us actually suspected it would be a p2w item beyond its paint scheme. And I do believe we are entering a period where the words we choose are going to become very very important when dealing with CCP in the next few months.
In the example of the Isukone Scorp.....functionally identical doesn't exactly convey identical characteristics. All BS's are functionally identical. That is to say functionally, they all kill things. How they do it and their efficacy is the real question.
I know I'm going off here about a t-shirt and it doesn't really make any difference in that situation. But I do smell a new effort by CCP to revamp the NeX, which isn't a bad thing except we seem to be taking the same route we did last year. The player financial survey is what is setting me off here. It proceeded the disasters of last year. So, just a word of warning folks.
Be vigilant and make sure to keep your hand on the brakes.
Your definition of functionally identical seems rather broad. Especially in terms of the Isukone Scorp. The published stats indicated that "functionally identical" meant the ship was identical in all ways including stats and fitting and only differed in appearance and description. The idea that all BS's are functionally identical, even using the term more liberally, seems to severely underplay the differences between ships. What he said, I would just like to add to that a bit by calling you a nitpicking nitwit. SLAPD - Star Scientist, I science stars |
Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1244
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Posted - 2012.07.06 09:52:00 -
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The Antiquarian wrote:Mechael wrote:Fair would be the removal of Aurum from EVE. Just sayin'. That is a pathetic answer. There is nothing wrong with Aurum system. It provides additional cash inflow for CCP while having absolutely no impact on the pre-existing capusleers' gameplay. It is a system only for those who are willing to spend their own money purely for cosmetic purpose. Do you think having CCP rely on "almost free-to-play" model by allowing capsuleers to fund their own subscription via ISK, sustainable in the long run? More cash inflow => Higher valuation of the company => the cost of capital goes down for both, equity and debt => better financing options from willing banks and other investors => more employees, more gameplay, more expansions, more Dust, more WoD, more EVE Online, more compensated CCP employees, more quality contents => Win-Win situation for all the stakeholders.Don't just think about the short-term. Think about what is best for EVE Online and CCP in the long-run for Christ's sake.
noted accounting and economics genius The Antiquarian forgets that CCP does not give any game time for free a rogue goon |
Cat Casidy
Percussive Diplomacy PERCUSSIVE PIZZA TIME DIPLOMACY
46
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Posted - 2012.07.06 10:09:00 -
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The Antiquarian wrote:Weaselior wrote:the antiquarian, fresh off another round of humiliating himself, pulls out the "im rich irl so clearly i can't be as dumb as anyone who can read has concluded" card again
like before, it is made out of crayon and has stains from juice spills on it I am just providing an appropriate response for a fool who keeps insisting that I am an idiot. You and your Goon pals are so funny.
I think the problem with people like this is that they're so stupid that they have no idea how stupid they are. -John Cleese
SLAPD - Star Scientist, I science stars |
Cutter Isaacson
Peace N Quiet
774
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Posted - 2012.07.06 13:12:00 -
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The Antiquarian wrote:Mechael wrote:Fair would be the removal of Aurum from EVE. Just sayin'. That is a pathetic answer. There is nothing wrong with Aurum system. It provides additional cash inflow for CCP while having absolutely no impact on the pre-existing capusleers' gameplay. It is a system only for those who are willing to spend their own money purely for cosmetic purpose. Do you think having CCP rely on "almost free-to-play" model by allowing capsuleers to fund their own subscription via ISK, sustainable in the long run? More cash inflow => Higher valuation of the company => the cost of capital goes down for both, equity and debt => better financing options from willing banks and other investors => more employees, more gameplay, more expansions, more Dust, more WoD, more EVE Online, more compensated CCP employees, more quality contents => Win-Win situation for all the stakeholders.Don't just think about the short-term. Think about what is best for EVE Online and CCP in the long-run for Christ's sake.
It should be noted that CCP makes more money from people using PLEX to fund their accounts than they would do if those same people paid via credit/debit card. This is because in order for them to use a PLEX, someone must first have purchased one for real money. As it stands, a PLEX costs -ú/$19.99 whereas a subscription paid by credit/debit card currently runs at -ú9.99 or $14.99. So as you can see, CCP earn a considerable amount more when people use a PLEX to fund their game time.
tl;dr PLEX users = lots more income for CCP, not less. Numbers of terminally stupid people seem to be on the increase, I suggest we have a real life Stupidageddon to rectify this issue. |
KrakizBad
Eve Defence Force Fatal Ascension
790
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Posted - 2012.07.06 13:17:00 -
[567] - Quote
It's OK, he's a world-class accountant. Your petty reform/charity school maths are no match for his Big Four brilliance, as clearly evidenced by both his understanding of PLEX and advertising. Why did you take my wings away? |
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Industrial Complex Cosmic Consortium
1598
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Posted - 2012.07.06 13:19:00 -
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Obsidian Dagger wrote:This was the main problem as I saw it back then. The only 'safe' way to do it would be to trade in an existing normal scorpion plus aurum to get the ishukone scorpion - that way the industrialists wouldn't be screwed out of the game.
So it would work just like an LP store, which I like.
Day 0 advice for new players: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=77176 |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3813
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Posted - 2012.07.06 14:51:00 -
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Cat Casidy wrote:The Antiquarian wrote:Weaselior wrote:the antiquarian, fresh off another round of humiliating himself, pulls out the "im rich irl so clearly i can't be as dumb as anyone who can read has concluded" card again
like before, it is made out of crayon and has stains from juice spills on it I am just providing an appropriate response for a fool who keeps insisting that I am an idiot. You and your Goon pals are so funny. I think the problem with people like this is that they're so stupid that they have no idea how stupid they are. -John Cleese yeah i am sort of stumped at this point because every time i think he couldn't embarrass himself more he goes and does it |
Thomas Horan
EVE University Ivy League
4
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Posted - 2012.07.06 15:12:00 -
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Robert Warner wrote:You were treated like " ***** and dingleberries" the moment you spent the equivalent of $200 on a virtual T-shirt, so why come to the forums complaining about it a year later?
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